Re: {Chrysler 300} CA Senate Bill 712.

Pete Fitch

On Saturday, May 31, 2025, 3:31 PM, Nick Taylor <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Check the "Problem" section of this - https://sr12.senate.ca.gov/sites/sr12.senate.ca.gov/files/SB%20712%20Fact%20Sheet%20Final.pdf

It states the problem is with 1976-1990 vehicles.

I agree that the text of the bill should be clearer to state vehicles from model year 1976 up to those 35 years old have the new requirements.

Per Blixt is a member of the club and works for Jay Leno.

Driving any car adds to pollution but time and again, studies show that classic cars are such a small contributor that resources would be better spent on other areas that have a bigger impact. But we all know that if someone doesn't care about old cars, it's an easy thing to point at as a problem. I'm sure Jay Leno has several 1976 and newer vehicles he'd like to exempt, especially exotics. I didn't pay much attention to his license plates when we visited his place. I have friend's with large car collections that they drive and they just swap plates around on cars.

Nick

On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 12:21 PM James Douglas <jdd@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I have read over the bill three times, and my reading is that ALL the classic cars from 35 years back will have a choice. Get white historic vehicle plates with the restrictions on use and have classic car insurance which also mandates the car to always be in a garage every single night or get it smoged.

Who the hack is going to smog the pre-1968 cars for which there is not data on engine pollutants?

The head of the Senate Committee stated her intend was to stop classic cars from being used a daily drivers as they add to pollution and health issues…of course without any evidence to back it up.

James

From: Nick Taylor <nicksgaragesd@xxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, May 31, 2025 12:17
To: James Douglas <jdd@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Chrysler 300 Club <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} CA Senate Bill 712.

James,

I don't see how the bill affects you either way. Unless they're going to start smog testing 1964 cars. The wording still states that these vehicles are exempt without the additional conditions:

(3) All motor vehicles manufactured prior to the 1976 ~~model-year.~~ model year.

The section covering the ones that require classic insurance and limited driving are the ones between 1976 and 35 years old. That's going to affect a lot of my friends who drive malaise era cars but they will just be stuck with what they have now, not anything additional.

I was hoping that my 1978 Dodge motorhome was going to get exempted but it won't.

Let me know if I have it wrong.

Nick

On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 11:15 AM 'James Douglas' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just read the changes in CA Senate Bill 712. No good if you drive your classic car daily.

In my case, I only drive classic cars. It took years to get a classic car insurance company to insure my 1949 Desoto Convertible as I do not own, nor have the garage space in San Francisco, for a modern car. They took my word that we use MUNI here in San Francisco to go to work and do a lot of our daily transportation needs.

The bill looks like it is going to push all classic car owners into having to have a special registration that limits the car use. It would also be mandated that it MUST be on classic car insurance. You cannot and will not be able to drive a classic car to work or to school or daily.

I am hoping that I am reading the changes incorrectly. But I do not think so.

We have spent thousands of dollars in the last 24 months to rebuild the 300K both for our daily use in retirement and for our travels. I only have so much car space and now I will have to sell a car and go buy a new one to be able to place all my cars under classic car insurance.

Jay stuck a stick into the hornets’ nest, and I fear this will not be good for many people. Pure collectors who want to have post-1976 cars will be happy, pre-1976 folks who like to use there cars daily will not.

I really hope I am not reading this bill’s changes correctly.

James

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