RE: [Chrysler300] Hiddin VIN's
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RE: [Chrysler300] Hiddin VIN's

Rich and all:

As our esteemed Mr. Hertog so eloquently explained, the location of the
Hidden, or Secret Numbers should remain a secret to make it more difficult
for unscrupulous people to counterfeit a real letter car.

Please, let us try to uphold the dignity and decorum of the 300 Club Intl.
and LEAVE THESE NUMBER LOCATIONS SECRET for the very reason that the factory
deemed it necessary to add them in secret locations in the first place.

If you absolutely MUST know all the secrets in the World, send an inquiry
directly to Mr. John Hertog.

>For common sense reasons, we all prefer not to publish the location of all<
>"secret numbers", as we affectionately refer to them. No need giving<
>dishonest people more information than they already may have. This<
>information is available to any Club member on a private basis. <

>Please do not publish this information on this listserver. All listserver<
>e-mails are viewable by the general public, in various ways. Thanks for<
>your cooperation. <

>John Hertog<

Again, as John Hertog said, "THANK YOU FOR YOUR COOPERATION",

John Mc Adams
(In SoCal)

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Rich Barber
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 9:22 AM
To: 'Gary Barker'; john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: [Chrysler300] Hiddin VIN's

Does anyone know when the practice of hidden VIN's began?  And, if used in
1955, where these numbers might be found?  
I recall this used to be a big secret used by law enforcement to track and
recovered stolen and chopped cars but believe it may not have begun until
the '60's.

Rich Barber
Brentwood, CA
1955 C-300 3N551198

-----Original Message-----
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Gary Barker
Sent: Thursday, April 06, 2006 12:26 AM
To: john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Controversy

Many cars have I.D.numbers stamped in hidden places.  Sometimes on the 
radiator support,  under weather strips   behind accessories ,  on 
brackets and also on hidden places on there frames.    Gary Barker 

john_nowosacki@xxxxxxxxxxx wrote:

>Wow, I didn't know unibody cars had a stamping.  Why a separate piece of
metal spot welded to a piece of metal that already was stamped?
>Where is this stamp usually located?  I'd like to try and find it on my
>If it is down low, like underneath a door sill plate or something like
that, then for the purposes of our discussion it is long-gone due to the
rust that is the whole reason for wanting to re-body in the first place.
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
Behalf Of Jess Miklas
>Sent: Wednesday, April 05, 2006 1:31 PM
>To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
>Subject: [Chrysler300] Controversy
>I am enjoying this discussion with an open mind!
>May I go one step further for my own satisfaction...
>Let's remember that the replacement unibody "cabin" (as it has been
referrred to) also has its  own stamped identifying numbers that correspond
to the data plate/microfilm. Are we then talking about cutting out those
numbers as well and welding them into the "new" body? If you don't, then you
will have a finished car that sports two different sets of identifying
>What about the case of the 300 C frame now? The owner saved the VIN tag but
appearantly did not save the unibody stamped numbers. Such as then, there
can NEVER BE a totally matching number body on that 300C frame.
>Sorry to add to the flames but I really would like get to the bottom of
this once and for all... although I believe in the past that Gil Cunningham
eloquently and correctly put the matter to bed.
>Jeff Miklas

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