Re: [Chrysler300] Trailering a C-300

["Roger Schaaf" <obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx>]

To those I offended, I apologize, to those that sent personal messages of support, thank you.  As I am not easily offended, sometimes I forget that others are..  It never occured to me that my comments on fuel costs would step on some toes.  The missive was meant to display a certain levity and a couple of trivia factoids to the topic.

Sorry again.

Roger Schaaf
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Jeff Gretz 
  To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Monday, January 08, 2007 7:46 AM
  Subject: FW: [Chrysler300] Trailering a C-300


  I thought this forum was about our 300's and not to be used for someone
  to whine about political issues!

  Jeff Gretz

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
  On Behalf Of Roger Schaaf
  Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 8:10 PM
  To: 'JoeyPilot'; 'John'; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Rich Barber
  Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Trailering a C-300

  All's well if you are not one who is whining about the oil companies,
  Bush and Cheney are ripping us off in oil company profits.

  Sometime back our local San Jose Murky Newspaper which runs a daily
  column called Roadshow in which subscribers can email or call in their
  beefs regarding everything to potholes to traffic miscreants, had
  another day dedicated to the topic of oil companies stealing all our
  dough.

  I responded in a missive to them which they published that went
  something like this.

  "If everyone that is complaining about the 3 dollar price for fuel would
  sell their 10 mpg Navigator and purchase a 30 mpg Honda that they would
  instantly reduce in effect their price per gallon from 3 bucks to 1
  dollar per. I also suggested that in the future that Gary Richards(the
  columnist) not publish any letters from those who are complaining about
  fuel pricing unless they also admitted to the type of vehicle they
  drive". I have seen almost no letters since my letter was published
  discussing fuel prices.

  When I was 16 in the mid 50's a gallon of gasoline was about 28 cents
  unless a gas war(remember them?) and a new Corvette was 3,000.00. Now a
  gallon of gasoline is about 2.70(up about 10 times) and a new Corvette
  is about 50,000.00(up about 16 times). Just think about it in terms of
  your home's pricing and what inflation has done to them.

  Roger Schaaf
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Rich Barber 
  To: 'JoeyPilot' ; 'John' ; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx 
  Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 11:09 AM
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Trailering a C-300

  Not to get defensive, but the 2005 4X4 Durango with 3.92 axles has a
  rated
  towing capacity of 8,650#. And it fits in my garage, which was an
  important
  point. It weighs over 5,000#, so nearly matches the weight of the 1955
  C-300 and trailer. The Durango is 18" shorter than the C-300, 3"
  narrower,
  has a 7" shorter wheelbase and a much tighter turning circle. 

  I feel the Durango could also handle an enclosed trailer, especially
  one of
  the lightweight aluminum frame jobs. If I ever get a concours Platinum
  paint job on the C-300, I might have to consider an enclosed trailer,
  but we
  are happy with the open trailer and the Durango. Yeah, they both have
  hemi's.

  And you are right on speed. I touched 85 on a steep downhill run by
  accident and brought it down to 75 ASAP. The trailer tires are not
  rated
  for that speed. The Durango has a TOW-HAUL mode that locks out fifth
  overdrive and changes the shift point, but does not generate enough
  compression braking in direct drive and I manually downshift to third
  to
  save the brakes on those long downhill runs in the west. On the uphill
  6%
  grades the tranny downshifts clear to second and the hemi raps up to
  5500
  RPM and holds the speed pretty good--and the gas gauge visibly drops
  on
  those hills. 

  After we got out of CA, the interstate speed limits were generally 75
  MPH
  for any kind of vehicle/trailer combination all the way to Iowa. In
  CA, the
  limit for all heavy trucks and anything with a trailer is 55 MPH.
  Yeah,
  right. RV's are licensed as cars and can drive the auto speed limit if
  not
  towing a trailer. Our RV does not have the hitch or towing capacity
  for a
  heavy trailer. We do successfully tow our Jeep "flat" on all four
  wheels
  behind the RV.

  This diatribe is meant to be helpful to those of you considering a tow
  vehicle for your 300. The hemi-rango does a good job for us,
  especially
  with the 3.92 axles. And, we can seat seven for side trips at 300
  meets.
  See this rig at Mesa in a couple of weeks. We can carpool over to BJ
  and
  see the high rollers being hustled by that cute brunette.

  And, yes--some may say we may have too many gas guzzlers and way too
  many
  vehicles for two people. At his point, my philosophy continues to be:
  too
  many cars, too many cubes, too much torque, too much horsepower is
  just
  right!

  C-300'ly,
  Rich Barber
  Brentwood, CA

  -----Original Message-----
  From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
  On
  Behalf Of JoeyPilot
  Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 10:06 AM
  To: John; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
  Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Trailering a 300D

  John, you are right, the listserver does have vast experience in
  towing. I 
  would like to add my .02 cents also. Do not buy or use a trailer that
  cannot

  carry 7000 pounds. My car trailer is 20' and my G fits good on it
  without 
  overhang. The trailer in my opinion must have brakes on all wheels.
  And just

  as importantly, you must use a vehicle that can handle the kind of
  weight 
  you are going to pull. That is the car and the weight of the trailer
  too. 
  Mine weighs 2000 pounds itself. The Durango has lots of go with the
  Hemi, 
  but is maxed out at 6000 pounds tow capacity. You will be over that
  with car

  and trailer together. Even my 1/2 ton Silverado is rated at 8600
  pounds 
  which is better; but a 3/4 ton truck is the ticket. And lastly, don't
  drive 
  too fast, that just spells trouble regardless of setup. Good Luck!

  Joe Schmitt
  Everett, WA

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: "John" <spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  To: <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
  Sent: Friday, January 05, 2007 7:15 PM
  Subject: [Chrysler300] Trailering a 300D

  >I am considering buying a used 16' x 6-1/2' car hauler to carry my
  300-D 
  >home to Florida from South Carolina. I've picked this particular
  trailer 
  >because the price is right- I didn't want to spend $5,000 on a custom

  >enclosed trailer I'll hardly use. The trailer has a 12 inch high
  fence on 
  >the front and sides, and none at the rear
  >
  > From the vast experience of the members of this listserver, am I
  going to

  > be able to load a D on a trailer of those flatbed dimensions and a
  12" 
  > high fence around the front & side perimeter? I know the overall
  width of

  > a D is 79.6", but the front tire track is 61.2"
  >
  > Importantly, the bumpers will NOT be on the car. I think this will 
  > affect both the maximum width and the amount of front overhang ahead
  of 
  > the front tires.
  >
  > Thanks,
  > John Spiers
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