Well, I own a factory 300C race car equipped with power seat, power windows, power antenna and search tune radio! It was serious enough for the factory to label it as a "race car" on the original track sheet found in the car and verified by the original build sheet still stuck to the car as well as by Gil's microfilm research. Not everything is as it seems. Proof by documentation is the only way. Owen _____ From: christopher beilby [mailto:thelastbestgenius@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Saturday, 27 September 2008 12:20 p.m. To: Owen Grigg; 'Dan Elliott'; lettercars@xxxxxxx; obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; c300@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay And re the just sold '55 300, anyone who knows a bit about serious race cars, you would think alarm bells would ring if someone tries to tell you a supposed race car was ordered with full options such as a heavy power seat?! Anyone who knows anything re racing, knows less weight and power driven accessories is top of list re building any race car, and power seats in 300s are pretty damn heavy, let alone on some models, need a different floor where they mount?!! Maybe if the car was one hurriedly bought from a used car lot, but I don't think our '55 300 sellers were that creative re their listing for this one??! What is suprising, is that in current economic 'sort of meltdown', that many cars are still strong - maybe people believe true collecxtor cars are better than paper or gold? Christopher's two bob's worth _____ To: us@xxxxxxxxxx; lettercars@xxxxxxx; obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; c300@xxxxxxx From: ram300@xxxxxxxxxx Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:12:05 +1200 Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay I'd just like to say a couple of things here, firstly how much I appreciate both Dan and Gil's work to bring us factual history on early 300 racing. Secondly I get the impression that some do not put any, or very little, value on a cars history and having that history documented as correct. Well maybe you should take a look at what makes the 300's the legend they are today. It was the Kiekhaefer's, the Flock brothers, the Frank Mundy's, the Buck Bakers, Daytona etc... If we keep getting idiotic claims on particular cars race history and this gets passed on down to future generations this in turn will distort the pedigree of the whole 300 breed. They are special lets keep them that way. No documentation, no cigar. Owen -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com [mailto:Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Dan Elliott Sent: Friday, 26 September 2008 12:13 a.m. To: lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars@xxxxxxx> com; obiwan10@comcast. <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> net; chrysler300@ <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com; c300@xxxxxxx Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay Amen, Gil. Some of us have worked too hard on the real race history behind the 55-56 300's to have the truth as we've reasonably been able to put it together simply washed away in this kind of auction setting. The irony here is that one of the important players in RM auctions was the purchaser of the only remaining Kiekhaefer 300B from the Kiekhaefer estate. I presume he had nothing to do with the auction mentioned here. Dan Elliott www.300B.info -----Original Message----- From: Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com [mailto:Chrysler300@ <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of lettercars@aol. <mailto:lettercars@xxxxxxx> com Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:51 AM To: obiwan10@comcast. <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> net; chrysler300@ <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com; c300@xxxxxxx Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay All: The more expensive of the two C300s, 3N55 2283 ($181,500 worth!) MUST be commented on. Almost everything stated about the car, except the fact it is a legitimate C300 and of fine quality, is untrue. It started out its life as a Platinum car, equipped with power steering, radio with rear speaker, a heater, and a power seat. Certainly it had a clock, as they were standard. The statement about being equipped with steel wheels---ostensibly for "racing"----rather than the more common wires is idiotic. Actually, the great majority of C300s were equipped with the standard steel wheels and wheel covers. The car was delivered thru a dealer in that "hotbed" of NASCAR, Kansas. (At least RM said the NASCAR connection couldn't be confirmed with certainty.) No kidding. Apparently this car was "restored" to kind of mechanically duplicate C300s #1 or #2 which competed at Daytona. Neither of those cars were red. I think this is a great example of developing a "story" on a car that gradually morphs into the "truth" if repeated enough times. Evidently someone thought the story was worth 180 or so thousand bucks---or at least if repeated a few more times----would be. Personally, I have no use for this nonsense. 300ly, Gil Cunningham Tallahassee, FL A perfect day here today! In a message dated 9/16/2008 11:19:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, obiwan10@comcast. <mailto:obiwan10@xxxxxxxxxxx> net writes: For those who may have missed the results of the RM Astor auction a few weeks ago, check out the sale results on the pair of C 300's that sold. The more expensive one was a strong number 2 plus maybe even 1 car, the less expensive one was a strong number 3. All opinions of course are subjective. http://www.rmauctio <http://www.rmauctions.com/AuctionResults.cfm?SaleCode=AA08&SortBy=AL&View=N o> ns.com/AuctionResults.cfm?SaleCode=AA08&SortBy=AL&View=No rm al&Category=Cars&Currency=# Roger Schaaf ----- Original Message ----- From: RLS To: chrysler300@ <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com ; Rich Barber Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 7:48 PM Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay I was the 2nd place 34 k bidder. As some wag once said: "2nd place is the first loser". If I knew more about it I may have bid a bit more. Roger Schaaf ----- Original Message ----- From: Rich Barber To: chrysler300@ <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:53 PM Subject: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Sold on eBay Someone got a pretty nice C-300 on eBay for $35K. A last minute bid. Not our bid or car. 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