Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks - Koni

[Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>]

I restored a 63 E Type which had Koni shocks. I had them rebuilt by Koni. The car handles great.
I restored a 64 E Type (virtually identical) .  I had put some expensive, but highly recommended shocks on the 64. I had both cars at the same time, The one with Konis handled and rode so much better, I replaced the "custom" shocks with Konis. It made a terrific difference.  
Mike Moore
300H
On Jul 22, 2011, at 7:02 AM, John wrote:

> To continue forward with this discussion about shock absorbers at the 300 Club 
> listserver:
> 
> Koni once made front and rear shocks to fit our cars.
> 
> I recall having read a thread on the Imperial Club's website. I found it, and 
> here it is, complete with misspellings:
> 
> Tip from Philippe:
> Just a little story about shock absorbers, I think that it could help you and 
> the Imperial owners. Last year I bought a 57 wrecked Crown (no glasses, rust 
> everywhere, transmission « out »). This car was neglected since 1966 so all 
> the parts on it were never replaced with aftermarket parts ! Except one thing 
> : the shock absorbers! Maybe the original « Oriflow » weren't as strong as 
> Chrysler said! I was very surprised when I removed the shocks : they aren't « 
> made in Brazil or Mexico » as actual sold by K....R or B......M. There are 
> KONI shocks, a very reliable & famous make (more expensive also). But I don't 
> know if Koni make them always. Summit has Koni shocks on his catalog. I give 
> you the reference (as they are the same from 57 to 65) : Front : 80 C 1229 
> Rear : 82 1066 Date of manufacturing : 11/64 If they are always manufactured, 
> buy them and don't buy $80.00 for four : I bought 4 gaz charged absorbers 
> (from kanter) : after one year, one was leaking and one was jamed ! Mexico 
> made ...
> >>Follow-up from Dietmar:
> >>>You are right- KONI is the worlds best qualitiy shock absorbers for street and 
> >>>race cars. They will serve You a 100 000 miles without any complain. I use 
> >>>them on my IMP 60 so this havy car dont swim nor incline in the curve, I use 
> >>>KONI an all sports car I have.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>---
> >>>
> 
> So I sent an email to Koni North America, inquiring about the above mentioned 
> part numbers. Here is the reply:
> 
> From: "Mclaughlin, Paul - ITT Motion Technologies" <Paul.Mclaughlin@xxxxxxx> 
> To: "spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx" <spiers@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> 
> Haven't had those part#'s for years... I think u have to buy 50 cars sets each 
> to get run made in Holland.
> 
> Paul McLaughlin
> Koni Shock Absorbers
> ITT Corporation
> Racing Technical Sales Rep.
> 1961A International Way
> Hebron, Ky. 41048
> 800-922-2616 option 6
> 
> ---
> 
> I checked on prices of Koni shocks. They are much more than the KYBs - for 
> example, on Koni's website, a pair of front shocks for a 1970 Dodge Challenger 
> lists for $320/pair (online price, $240) and the rear pair list for $380 (online 
> price, $285). And they do go for upwards of $500/pair in some cases.
> 
> To make the minimum order, I think it would be difficult to convince a total of 
> 50 people worldwide, between both 300 clubs, the Imperial Club, both Christine 
> clubs, and all the members of the Forwardlook list, to drop $600 on a set of 
> Koni shocks, when there are discussions of the KYBs being far too expensive at 
> over $100/set . . . and I wouldn't drive another one of these cars without at 
> least KYBs on it. The difference, to you who don't know, is like AM radio 
> versus satellite radio. 
> 
> I personally would buy at least 2 sets of the Konis, after experiencing the 
> profound difference of KYBs, and knowing the Konis are another quantum leap 
> forward - I've only run them 65,000 miles on one car I've owned (a '62 Morgan 
> +4) and was very impressed. One important and interesting feature of the Konis, 
> is that they are adjustable for firmness/softness in their rebound action. 
> http://www.koni-na.com/comp.cfm
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> John Spiers
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Bill Huff <czbill@xxxxxxxxxx>
> To: Michael Moore <mmoore8425@xxxxxxx>; Tony Bevacqua <tonysru2@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> Cc: Marshall Larson <granitledge@xxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> Sent: Thu, July 21, 2011 9:27:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Shocks.
> 
> There are some H.D. choices out there. Not many cheap one though.
> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Bilstein-Heavy-Duty-Shock-Absorber/dp/B001HIAMWU/ref=au_pf_pfg_s?ie=UTF8&Model=300%7C2489&n=15684181&s=automotive&Make=Chrysler%7C39&Year=1970%7C1970&newCar=1&carId=001
> 
> Bill Huff
> 
> At 7/21/201111:58 AM, Michael Moore wrote:
> >I installed those on my 300H and was grateful to get them.
> >I wish they were stiffer though.
> >Its almost as though there are no shocks on the car, but insofar as 
> >I know, that's all thats available.I wish Koni made a set to fit.
> >Mike Moore
> >300H
> >
> >
> >On Jul 21, 2011, at 8:41 AM, Tony Bevacqua wrote:
> >
> > > KYB shocks. KG4507 and KG 5511 are the correct ones. I just made a
> > > purchase for my 57 (shocks are correct for 1957 to 1964, I believe).
> > > $116.32 for the 4 shocks, plus handling, etc.
> > > Tony
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On
> > > Behalf Of Marshall Larson
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 8:26 AM
> > > To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: [Chrysler300] Shocks.
> > >
> > > Any suggestions for an appropriate brand and model of shocks for a G. I
> > > don't need anything exotic, just proper ride and to deal with the radials
> > > that are on the car. All suggestions appreciated.
> > >
> > > MN Marshall
> > >
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