RE: [Chrysler300] Oil

I feel it is important to repeat a previously-published fact that the zinc concentration goes down with engine hours as the zinc compounds plate out on internal engine surfaces. Even if one does not change the oil, adding another slug every year might make sense. The 1,600 ppm is a starting point designed to offer protection (assumedly) for the “life” of the oil change in normal operation.

Facts of life for automotive fluids: Oil and antifreeze don’t wear out but their additive/inhibitor packages do. Stationary engines as well as aircraft, railroad engine and over-the-road truck operators monitor fluid properties and add inhibitors/additives as needed or drain, flush and refill if and when needed. Fluids are also monitored for corrosion or wear materials and can provide critical information on wear or corrosion. The technology is proven but not yet offered to Chrysler 300 owners as it is more desirable from the vendor’s standpoint to just drain, dump and refill. An awful lot of used oil and antifreeze goes down the tube each year. Both can be recycled.

C300K’ly,

Rich Barber

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of MARK HOPKINS
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 3:50 PM
To: kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx
Cc: Terry Mctaggart; Listserver Chrysler Club
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Oil

Hi Keith - great question for everyone in the US. When you click on the Hemmings link in your email, next click on one of the oil bottles, and a product description comes up. In each type of Hemmings Oil, the zinc content is 1627 parts per million, which is what our old cars need. Scroll down a bit, and it says the oils are manufactured for Hemmings by Champion Brands LLC in Clinton, Missouri. Nice - a product that isn't made in China, but I digress...

The Champion Brands website is www.championbrands.com . They market the same oils under their name: Champion Classic / Muscle High Performance Motor Oil. Click on "Classic / Muscle Car Oils" near the top of their Home page, then click the tab with the same title, and their classic car oils come up. The product descriptions are identical to the Hemmings decriptions, with zinc content at 1627 PPM. On the Home page, also click the "Where to Buy" tab at the top, and then "Online Retailers", and a whole list of auto stores comes up. Some are online, but several have retail stores as well. Most US members can probably find the oil they need in their own back yards.

Mark

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From: "Keith Boonstra" <kboonstra.zeegroup@xxxxxxxxx>
To: "MARK HOPKINS" <m.hopkins@xxxxxxx>
Cc: "Terry Mctaggart" <terrymct999@xxxxxxxxx>, "Listserver Chrysler Club" <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Monday, March 24, 2014 2:57:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Oil

Is anyone using the "Hemmings" classic car oil? It runs $9 and $11.50 a quart with shipping, but I would presume they will have done their homework on its formulation.

Here is a link: http://www.hemmings.com/classicoil/

Keith Boonstra

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On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 3:47 PM, MARK HOPKINS < m.hopkins@xxxxxxx > wrote:

Hi Terry - the earlier email about Rotella's zinc content being reduced is correct. As well, remember that Rotella is formulated for diesel engines, meaning it has a very high detergent content. While a certain amount of detergent is inherent in all modern oils the amount required for diesels is considerably more, and can act as an abrasive in gasoline engines. It's therefore not a good idea to use Rotella in our old car engines.

The Joe Gibbs and other racing oils that contain zinc / ZDDP are probably best. The key is to check the product and ensure the zinc content is at least 1,600 parts per million. There was an oil in the US market for a while called Z-Alt that met that specification. However, their website is no longer working, so I don't know if the company is still in business. It was about $10/US quart as I recall.

In western Canada, Boss Lubricants makes a 15-40 weight with 1,600 PPM zinc content called CAM Oil. They list stores on their website in the four western provinces, including the NAPA stores in this region. It sells for about $7.00/liter/US quart. Their website is www.camoils.com . I don't know if it can be shipped to the US, but that would likely make it too costly anyway.

Spring was here and then winter came back this weekend!

Mark in Calgary

----- Original Message -----
From: "Terry Mctaggart" < terrymct999@xxxxxxxxx >
To: "Listserver Chrysler Club" < chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx >
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:17:26 PM
Subject: [Chrysler300] Oil

The first signs of spring are appearing here in Dayton OH, so it's time to get the 300F out of winter storage and ready for the road. One of the first things to do is an oil change. Is Rotella still the oil of preference for our old style engines? Terry McTaggart

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