RE: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?
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RE: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?





Growing up here in B.C., Canada (and I'm assuming the rest of the country) marine, farm, and aviation fuels did not have road taxes applied and as a result were less expensive to purchase. These fuels, much like the different grades of car fuel, were identified by color as dyes were added. If you were caught with marine or farm fuel in your licenced road vehicle you could be fined. It is in essence a form of tax evasion I suppose.
 
Over the years the public just seemed to become oblivious to the pricing structure of marine fuels in particular and began accepting increases in those prices until they were at parity (or sometimes higher) than posted prices on road gas that included all sorts of additional transit and road taxes. I'm sure I could find out with some digging, but I'm not even sure marine or farm fuel is available any longer?
 
As a kid in the eighties, even though the local marina on the lake I spent my summers at sold 'marine' fuel (green/blue as I recall), we still paid the extra bucks per litre for 94 octane (purple) Chevron fuel for our thirsty 327 Crusader and lugged it down to the dock in 5 gallon jugs each time the old runabout needed more to drink. Loved the purple gas! At that time, if you wanted to buy the less expensive marine gas at the marina it had to go in the boat, not gerry cans. I presumed this was to ensure it didn't find it's way into road vehicles.

Ryan Hill
1965 Chrysler 300
1968 Dodge Charger
1959 17' Twin Cockpit Runabout
 

To: rfmelton@xxxxxxx; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
From: Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2015 09:38:03 -0800
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?

 

To All:

 

As I recall from my childhood.  My uncle had a farm in Kansas.  On his farm, he had a large (maybe 200 or more gallon) fuel tank built on a raised 15 - 20 foot high platform for gravity feed into his tractors.  When he needed to refill the tank, he called into town and a distributor would send out a tanker truck to fill the tank with “real leaded” gasoline.  Remember this was back in the 1950’s.

 

Now since this fuel was intended for use in his farm vehicles (tractors, Combines, etc.) that were technically never used on paved roads, just out in the fields.  There was never any tax paid on this fuel.   I am sure that the government has changed all of that today, well before the Ethanol Scam.

 

 

From Big John Mc Adams

(In 80 degree SoCal)

(Will gladly trade heat for rain)

 

 

 

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Ray Melton rfmelton@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 2:57 PM
To: Chrysler 300 Club, Int'l
Subject: [Chrysler300] Ethanol-exempt vehicles?

 

 

If older farm vehicles can be exempted from using ethanol-contaminated gasoline, is there any reason that our older pre-ethanol 300's can't get a similar exemption?  Or is that just another perk our wonderful government has bestowed upon (bribed) the farmers who will grow the virtually inedible variety of corn used to make ethanol?

Ray Melton
Las Cruces, NM

On 3/5/2015 3:10 PM, 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] wrote:

 

What I meant was…

Lots of the older farm equipment require non ethanol fuel,

Not a problem finding it at all around here, thank goodness!

Plus, it makes all my old Kohlers in Cub Cadets purr like a kitten!!

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Keith Boonstra kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2015 3:50 PM
To: David Schwandt
Cc: 300-Gil Cunningham; chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]

Wait, what ????!!

The ethanol is mandated by the politicians for the sole purpose of supporting the Iowa corn farmers who support the politicians for supporting mandated ethanol, and the Iowa farmers who grow corn for ethanol get to have plentiful non-E gas for their own use???

You have GOT to be kidding !!!

Can a country secede from itself?

Keith Boonstra

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On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 10:56 AM, 'David Schwandt' finsruskw@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

We are lucky here in that we can get non-E gas most anywhere, thanks to the farmers!

Gil, are Ya gonna bring the Blue F to PA this summer??

We are thinking on it.

Dave Schwandt

From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of lettercars@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2015 4:26 PM
To: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300]

Terry and All:

Knock on wood----I have not had the ethanol trouble---at least not yet! A couple weeks ago I started up my 300F for the first time in over a year (ashamed of that!) and took it for a fairly exuberant drive. It started very well with a little gasoline poured in each carb, and ran just fine. I will say that one of my stops on that little excursion was a fill up with NON-ethanol fuel at the local Marathon station. At least I feel better now!

300ly, Gil C.

In a message dated 3/2/2015 2:49:23 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:

I just read in Autoweek mag Jay Leno's essay on the evils of ethanol. In my 300F I have been running a mix of 100+ octane leaded aviation gas and pump premium spiked with the normal amount of ethanol. Has anybody in the Club experienced any problems with today's ethanol-infused gas? Jay talks about rubber parts (in fuel pumps, for example) being eaten up and ensuing engine fires. Terry McTaggart

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