I was the one that bought the 57 Adventurer at BJ. I was shocked at the hammer price as well. I’m sure the owner was too, given they paid 192k for it 3 years ago at the same auction. I’m working on getting the correct wheels for it now. I crawled all over the car prior to it running and it’s a nicely done car. I don’t know why it didn’t go for more. Being behind a rope could have been part of that. The agent for BJ looked annoyed when I asked to look at the car. I’m on the younger side and he thought I was just being a tourist I guess. I assume when I pulled out paint meters and flash lights, he realized I was serious. The cars were so close, you couldn’t open the doors on them, annoying. I felt the car was worth 140-160, but could have understood a slightly higher bid. Given a 57 Adv with questionable history and horrid bodywork sold for 110k at RM just months before, this was a shock.
I’m not complaining, I love the car and can’t wait to get it home. Looking for a 59 Adv Convertible now to complete the set.
I echo John.. Also want to give all the credit in the recent 300 Club publication report on the business meeting at the Lynchburg, Va. meet. I did not have anything to do with the 57-59 hood latch protective mechanism other than sing the praises for it and stating that it was an easy installation on my C thanks to Bob Merritt’s video and that it was the cheapest insurance policy you could get to avoid replacing a hood, windshield and whatever else when the latch would let go at speed. Some how my inquiry about the power top mechanism control knob for the C,D and E convertible project which I spear headed got confused. I DO NOT WANT TO STEAL ANYONE’S THUNDER on the hood latch project. Also I like to drive my C and keep it to my standard of aesthetics! I was shocked that the ‘57 DeSoto Adventurer convertible that was in the Salon class only went for $115K at hammer price at BJ last week. However something did not look entirely correct to me when viewing it from a distance since it was always in a roped off corral prior to going across the bidding stage. It did have wire wheels which looked fabulous but perhaps something else was different. Still I would love to have a ‘57 or ‘58 DeSoto in my corral. Firesweep to FireFlite coupe would fit the bill. 300’ly, Rob Kern
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These things about numbers are funny to me. I will gladly pay 10 -15 under market for an F with no HP stamp on block … depends on buyer I guess. Many “numbers matching” cars , especially in GM world, belong to people who never worked on them, inherited them from a granddad who left it sitting in a garage for 40 years, vs. someone who knew what they were doing and worked on and drove the car…which means replacing things. Latter group can also get it all correct, often do, so no criticism intended at all in any of this, but if you have a poor old rust free F with mismatched numbers ,15 “ wheels, rams in trunk, and wrong color at a low price, I am in. I am not in for a sneaky rust one , bondo baby with a pile of official papers , perfect stamps, original battery acid etc etc etc., And we all know about grandfather’s ax.
I guess it comes down to driving the car for what it is, to be enjoyed , as Noel does, vs. how much is it worth this year? = How do I get that number up? Different values/different folks..and that is OK.
I once read of a guy with 75 k in a red D convert babied it hand washed it car cover etc. One day he said to himself, ”I am saving my car for someone else to drive !!! And he jumped in on East Coast and went to California, big road trip stone chips have fun. I envy that guy, want to do that, but I stall at the gate,…..
Sp! oken as a guy who had a radio delete red 4 spd hemi Cuda , 4:11 dana , bought for 8 sold in 90’s for 35, now worth? A million? Lousy car , really, cannot get power to ground, nose heavy. Old saying , when they were new, 340 beats 440, 440 beats hemi. Often true in the real world. 273 65 4 spd dart, or 63 426 max wedge -- might beat all of them. But someone just wants one—irrational. . May you get what you wish for…like driving on ice. Unless heavily modified.
Why Studebakers do OK, even win the pure stock drags all the time…not hemi mopars. 12 sec, light car, ancient engine design, 289 and 301 cu in. . . But I love our 300’s , best driving cars car ever made. Fantastic engineering. Room under the big 300 tent for everybody!!
Along this line, I really like the new club motion about non letter 300 and same year Mopar (55 to 65 ) being included and welcomed at our meets . Good guys, maybe cannot afford a 300 now, but share our appreciation of them. . As a dodge D500 guy since 56, CHP, Broderick Crawford (actually who knows when), it is interesting to me the money they bring now, the converts, ( I had 4 - 57 converts over the years, I junked one D500 stick convert way back ---arrgh) Desoto Adventurer , 57-58-59 Fury too. More $ than our cars, at times..59 D500 convert for 220K this year??….(would rather have a 57, myself, but not at 220—maybe 22---).
Do not forget build date, matching tag.
Not so much numbers, but letters.
The F’s and G’s should all have “HP” stamped on the boss of the block in addition to the ‘41’
From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Val Jeffers edward1108@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 10:19 AM
To: mark love; Andy Mikonis
Cc: Yahoo! Inc.
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] Barrett-Jackson Auction
Let me ask a possibly dumb question. I was told “Numbers Matching” didn’t begin until 1967 or thereabouts. Hence, unless it was say a 383,how would you know ?
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On Tuesday, January 23, 2018, 2:02 AM, mark love marklove@xxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
If the engine is not original. Will make a diff
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On Jan 21, 2018, at 6:42 PM, Andy Mikonis r41hp@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
I haven't seen this G, despite being in touch with them they didn't come two hours to the Elkhart Lake '16 national meet. He tried to buy a G engine block off of me so it probably has an incorrect engine. So, the price doesn't seem too crazy low to me. There may have been a G coupe or two that sold for more, but from what I hear those were the outliers. So the important point is YES let! 's drive and enjoy them, and pay less for insurance. And maybe some young people will look at these as affordable and take some of them on. If you are worried about values my opinion is we will soon be running out of rich old guys who want these cars.
On Jan 21, 2018, at 9:58 AM, mark love marklove@xxxxxx <mailto:marklove@xxxxxxx> [Chrysler300] <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx%20%3cmailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Having seen the car, up and down and knowing it belongs to one of our members, I regret that the car didn’t command a higher price. In my somewhat limited view, this car was done right. At $57k (and if that’s advertised, then the buyer’s fee of 10-12% has been added to that number), this car sold at just over $50k. Wow what a car for that price. I would have thought that car would have sold well into the $60’s. If this is where the market is going for our letter legends, time to just sit back, put the pedal down and enjoy them.
On Jan 21, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Glenn Ornat tanro73@xxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
The G sold at Russo and Steele on Saturday for $57,000.... There is a great app called Hammer Price that shows all of the big auction results, plus pictures of each of the cars. I installed the app last year at Barrett-Jackson and it has performed great! Hope this helps.
300D and F
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On Jan 21, 2018, at 07:43, Val Jeffers edward1108@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
So ! we all are waiting patiently for the result of the 300 G sale !
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On Sunday, January 21, 2018, 1:12 AM, Keith Boonstra kboonstra@xxxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Aha! I thought the G was at B-J. Did not know it would be at Russo's instead. Will look for the results there.
On Sat, Jan 20, 2018 at 11:16 PM, mark love marklove@xxxxxx [Chrysler300] <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx%20%3cmailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Hi All, I was at BJ’s today. Had a car running. Auction started slowly. The ’62 came from Temecula and was sold at McCormick’s Palm Springs Auction last Nov. for $42, net of buyer’s fee. It resold today for $40k net of buyer premium. The car was much better than the price it got. Timing is everything and running 15th in the auction when there are dealer exotics and some quirky stuff ahead of it, doesn’t do us any good. I also went to Russo and saw the 61 G. It was very well done and a crisp presentation. I just hope when the weather set in today and the rain came that it showed well in the evening. We left before it ran, so hope someone has the info to share..
On Jan 20, 2018, at 3:51 PM, John Holst jholst@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@ yahoogroups.com <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:
Here are the results for the Barrett-Jackson Chrysler auction today:
1962 Chrysler 300 H sold at $44! ,000
<http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1962-CHRYSLER-300H-213643> http://www.barrett-jackson. com/Events/Event/Details/1962- CHRYSLER-300H-213643
1970 Chrysler Hurst sold $50,600
<http://www.barrett-jackson.com/Events/Event/Details/1970-CHRYSLER-300H-210564> http://www.barrett-jackson. com/Events/Event/Details/1970- CHRYSLER-300H-210564
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