RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an orig
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RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an original.

Hi Gloria,


Update of 1957 300C Roster 


Club member Luella  Winkler, Tigard, OR.  has sold her two 300’s to Memory Lane Motors in Portland. Her husband Bob died several years ago. About two weeks ago, I called Memory Lane, owner Dale Matthews, they told me that Dale had bought the cars and had already transported the 300C to his shop to assemble the engine etc. They had not picked up the 300E yet. I have not seen the 300E. The 300C coupe was Ray Doern’s old three speed stick. Ray sold the 300C to the Winkler’s back in the 1980’s. They were not members of the Western 300 Club. The last time I saw Ray’s 300C was at a 300 Club meet in Santa Cruz, CA. in 1983? Ray was living in Florida and came to Portland to take the car to Santa Cruz, this was after Ray had sold it to Bob. None of us have ever seen the 300C and 300E at any functions in Oregon since that time. I drove my 300C  to the 300 Club meet in Santa Cruz also.


Ray’s 300C was originally a three speed, but when he bought it;  it had an automatic. He converted it back to a three speed.


When I heard that Bob had died, I told Luella that I would look at the cars, but I never got around to seeing them. She had called Rob Kern and talked to him about selling them. Both were not in running condition. Harry  Torgeson  of Lake Oswego, OR went to see the cars in the past year. I hope Dale Matthews finds a good home for them. I expect it will take some time to get them presentable and running to sell them. Go to the web site of Memory Lane Motors, they have lots of nice old cars for sale.


Thanks Gloria for maintaining the history of our 300’s.


John, Portland, OR


From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Gloria Moon agmoon300@xxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 7:42 AM
To: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: *300-Chrysler 300 Club <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an original.


Speaking of keeping records, Ron, the club members have done a good job of registering 300s they own or have seen over the club's 50 years.  The latest News-Flite will list the VINs for 1957.  Please help keep the records up-to-date.  Let us know of any corrections or additions we may have missed.


In the case of this 1955 with VIN 3N551199, it would be to your benefit to have Mark Obermann check out the microfilm to see how it left the factory - a  free service for members.  I'd do that first thing.  300microfilm@xxxxxxxxxx <mailto:300microfilm@xxxxxxxxx> 


If you are buying a letter car and are unsure about its history, send us an email, we'll tell you what we know about it.   It's one more free service.  It is Buyer Beware out there and your club is here to help you.


Gloria Moon

agmoon300@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:agmoon300@xxxxxxxxx> 


On Fri, Jul 31, 2020 at 9:12 AM 'Ron Waters' ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>  [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:



Bad joke ? Let's call it what it is: Misrepresentation. 


Seller would be more transparent if he stated what it is: a 'tribute'; a 'made car'; a 'one-of-none'; a rebodied car. Does anyone see the X-member on the frame ? I don't. So this could have been cut down from a two door HT.


I'm glad our club keeps records of VIN numbers. Keeps people honest. 





From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  [mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> ] On Behalf Of 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx <mailto:c300@xxxxxxx>  [Chrysler300]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2020 2:45 AM
To: 'Sharon Gerber'; 'Jim Jungwirth'
Cc: 'Bill Leahy'; 'Val Jeffers'; 'Chrysler 300 List'
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an original.

Last thought du jour:  C-300 speedometer, engine, HD PowerFlite, exterior trim and interior may have been salvaged from 3N551199 along with the VIN tag and installed on and in the Newport or NY convertible.  Checking the leaves on the rear springs would be an indicator.  If so, key parts of #1199 live on as a donor car.  Jacked into a hardtop, some would accept it for what it is.  But as a convertible it is more like a bad joke when promoted as an original show car.


Rich B. 


From: Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx <mailto:c300@xxxxxxx> > 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 11:23 PM
To: 'Sharon Gerber' <grahamowner@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:grahamowner@xxxxxxxxx> >; 'Jim Jungwirth' <jk-jungw@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jk-jungw@xxxxxxxxxxx> >
Cc: 'Bill Leahy' <bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx> >; 'Val Jeffers' <edward1108@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:edward1108@xxxxxxxxx> >; 'Chrysler 300 List' <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Subject: RE: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an original.


Thank you, Gerber:


I formerly owned car #1198-built 3/12/55.  Car #1199 is shown in the “INT” registry as junked and probably built the same Saturday.  One of the pictures shows a heavily painted over VIN tag, but it is there and not readable in the picture.  I’m told there is a hidden chassis number on these cars—perhaps under the heater box on the engine side of the firewall.  So, perhaps a reinCARnated body, or a VIN tag relocated to a Windsor or New Yorker convertible chassis.


A review of the microfilm of #1199’s CAR RECORD CARD will probably show the car to be a Sport Coupe as they called the 2DHT then.


Pictures and text of the 1955 NYC Auto show indicate the show was held 2/55 with no indication of any Chryslers.              The Detroit Auto show was 1-20-55—both before #1199 was born.  Car and story may be fabricated and, one could only surmise what might have been.


Tiptoeing here to avoid a dustup on the server or with the seller.


Rich B.

Brentwood, CA  


From: Sharon Gerber <grahamowner@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:grahamowner@xxxxxxxxx> > 
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 10:32 PM
To: Jim Jungwirth <jk-jungw@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jk-jungw@xxxxxxxxxxx> >
Cc: Bill Leahy <bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx> >; c300@xxxxxxx <mailto:c300@xxxxxxx> ; Val Jeffers <edward1108@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:edward1108@xxxxxxxxx> >; Chrysler 300 List <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an original.


I requested a copy of the data plate and/or VIN number and was told VIN is:  3N551199.  Continue your search from here.





On Jul 30, 2020, at 9:16 PM, Jim Jungwirth jk-jungw@xxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:jk-jungw@xxxxxxxxxxx>  [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:



 I don't know what these people have been smoking. The guy mentions VIN and matching numbers but no numbers are shown in 133 pictures. Unfortunately someone may get taken by this scam. 

 Definitely a beautiful car, though.

 I assume the data plate would have shown a different body style for a convertible?





From: Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>  <Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > on behalf of Val Jeffers edward1108@xxxxxxxxx <mailto:edward1108@xxxxxxxxx>  [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Sent: Thursday, July 30, 2020 8:44 PM
To: Bill Leahy <bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx> >; c300@xxxxxxx <mailto:c300@xxxxxxxx>  <c300@xxxxxxx <mailto:c300@xxxxxxx> >
Cc: Chrysler 300 List <chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:chrysler300@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >
Subject: Re: [Chrysler300] 1955 C-300 Convertible for sale--claimed to be an original.



Really ? I assume a J convertible is next ? 

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On Thursday, July 30, 2020, 8:39 PM, Bill Leahy  <mailto:bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx> bleahy@xxxxxxxxxxx [Chrysler300] < <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I believe it’s real .... it has Washington plates on it ... where is it?

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On Jul 30, 2020, at 3:51 PM, 'Rich Barber' c300@xxxxxxx <mailto:c300@xxxxxxx>  [Chrysler300] <Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <mailto:Chrysler300-noreply@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > wrote:



More at:   <>               “Lou” has a video in it.  San Martin is south of San Jose on 101.  82 miles from Brentwood.  Lots of pictures that look accurate but none of the VIN tag or body plate.


Excerpt from the description:  This Chrysler C-300 currently resides in San Martin, California, and has been owned by the seller for over 30 years. This example is thought to be one of three C-300 convertibles built for the 1955 automobile premieres in Paris, New York, and Detroit. The current owner has sent letters to Chrysler to verify the origins of this car, but unfortunately Chrysler opted not to help out in the process.


The game is on.


Rich Barber

Brentwood, CA






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