RE: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964
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RE: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964



Hi, my EE friend:

 

So, Your saying you have a 1962 300 Gussied up with a set of short rams and a firewall-mounted boosted MC.

You ask the question on engine bays.  The ’62-’64 bays are decidedly shorter than the ‘’60-‘61’s due to the shorter wheelbase.  That’s the question before the house.  Pretty sure the ’63-’64 ram cars had the master-slave setup with a manual brake MC on the firewall and a remote boosted slave cylinder in the front fender well—under the battery area.  Apparently due to the ram system being too close to the standard boosted MC,  The question(s) is/are 1.  Is there evidence of any ram-engined ‘62’s floating around?  I understand the ram installation was a dealer-installed option so, no factory ram cars. 2.  What kind of brake system was on the ram-engined ‘62’s after the dealer install?  All Manual brakes?  The standard firewall mounted boosted MC?  A remote slave cylinder as on the J’s & K’s?

 

Not doubting your description of your ram-engined ’62 with a boosted MC on the firewall—but a picture showing the proximity of the MC to the LH ram system would be educational—and, perhaps, lead to more ram-engined ‘62’s, 

 

Thanks for your review of boosted vs. manual brakes-with and without disc conversion and split MC vs single tube, Those of us in our ram-engined J’s & K’s and forced to live on the single tubes running from master to slave and slave to the four wheels might welcome a boosted and firewall-mounted split-system MC.  Even if it came from a Corvette or a Jaguar.

 

Your ME friend,

Rich Barber

Brentwood CA

 

From: John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2022 4:57 AM
To: Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx>; chrysler 300 club <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964

 

Hi Rich .

I have a 62 with 405 clone , the mc is the same setup as an F . It also has air , guy before me was ambitious .He did a better job than factory . 

I also looked carefully at “ Big Red” at the Pa meet ; 62 405 with manual brakes and also water heated carbs . More of a race car setup but I liked it . Frees up exhaust options and no struggles with exhaust heat problems . 

FYI manual brakes with correct  manual pedal ratio setup from a dodge ( fits) and stock 12 “ drums is not too bad . Good even . 

However even correctly done manual brakes and any disc conversion are a horror show imho . Very hard pedal , and it travels a few inches first due to very high brake fluid requirement ( cc) of the large disc puck cylinders  compared to drum cylinder piston surface area . No amount of bleeding etc fixes that . Been there . Lesson learned . That car ended up with larger bore corvette master ( big but fits with redrilling , with no boost , non ram ) to reduce travel , but that makes pedal even harder .

Lesson learned … 

Back to first question , I think 60-62 exactly the same engine bay ? Right ?

I ask , as often headers ( like TTI ) are listed 62 up , why not 60 ? Something else hits? 

Anyone know? 

What was on 400 hp F for carb heat and brake mc ? 

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On Aug 2, 2022, at 1:35 AM, Rich Barber <c300@xxxxxxx> wrote:



Noel & All:

 

I recall the meet, the car, the young woman owner and her father who had helped prepare the car—all from TX.  I think the car was concours judged. 

 

Amazingly, their original FirePower 360 engine had been equipped with short rams.  The outlet piping of the original boosted master cylinder had been re-routed downward and the horizontal outlet plugged.  This left about 3/8” clearance between the LH ram assembly and the MC plug.  I have a picture of same “somewhere”.

 

So, this brings up a question I have on a ’62 300 with a long(?) ram optional engine—if ever one existed.  Did they use the remote MC then as was later used on J’s & K’s? Inquiring minds want to know.

 

Rich Barber

Brentwood, CA

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Noel Hastalis
Sent: Monday, August 1, 2022 6:20 PM
To: Allan Klotz <allan.klotz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Chrysler300 <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} FW: Chrysler 300 1964

 

Hello Allan,

 

Here are photos of a beautiful '64 300-K Silver Special that came to our Fall 2012 Golden (Denver), Colorado 300 Club Meet - attached.

 

Noel

 

On 08/01/2022 2:33 AM Allan Klotz <allan.klotz@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

 

Hi

One of my friends has bought the car on the photos below. Somebody has told him that it is a 300 Silver Special. The paint code is 229. Can anyone confirm if it is a Silver Special or tell me what else it can be?

Your assistance is highly appreciated.

Thanks

Allan

 

Mvh. 

Mathias Neumann Olsen 

Mobil 20 35 89 42

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