RE: {Chrysler 300} Paint formulas
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RE: {Chrysler 300} Paint formulas



I am not sure how much paint is left on it. On ethe roof and the trunk lid, it has worn away between wear and tear and previous polishing. I will go over it with my paint guy. He has done some concourse work for me and my friends, so he knows what he is doing.

 

What I want to avoid is having to disassemble the car complete to do a full paint job. For a car that is going to take over the daily driving chores as well as some x-country travel, a full restoration paint job is in the $20K range. A concourse paint job is in the $30K and up range. Not to mention the million hours of doing a full car disassembly and reassembly and everything that goes along with that. That kind of work for a street car is a little dumb unless one does not care about dings at motels and restaurant parking lots after all that work and money.

 

James

 

From: Bob Podstawski <bobp8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, December 2, 2022 17:03
To: James Douglas <jdd@xxxxxxxxxx>
Cc: Ron Waters <ronbo97@xxxxxxxxxxx>; Chrysler 300 club <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: {Chrysler 300} Paint formulas

 

Clear coat is the way to go. If you want a primo end result, be prepared for some serious sanding… my shop took it to 4000 grit then buff cut it. It is fantastic!



On Dec 2, 2022, at 7:11 PM, 'James Douglas' via Chrysler 300 Club International <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:



My 1964 300K that I just picked up is an 90K mile car with the factory paint still on it.

 

I plan on having my body shop do a computer match at several places on the car so we can see any differences. The plan is to conserve the paint on the car if we can. There are some places like the top that we may have to paint and a couple of spots on the rear roll of the trunk, where peoples hand would have grabbed it. We may have to spray the entire trunk lid.

 

The only other thought is do we do a single stage match or wet sand the entire body after shooting the roof and the trunk and then shoot a clear coat over it all including the factory (still in good shape) pin stripping.

 

Once I get a computerized Ruby Red, I will of course post the formula for anyone who wants it.

 

James

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of Ron Waters
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 11:02
To: 'Chrysler 300 club' <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Paint formulas

 

Another factor that I learned when we were matching the colors for my 1959 Dodge is that the color of the primer affects what the top coat will look like. We did sprayouts on white, light gray and dark gray cards that simulated the primer color. The difference is noticeable.

 

Ron

 


From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Dan Plotkin
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2022 12:21 PM
To: 'D.C. Mason'; 'Chrysler 300 club'
Subject: RE: {Chrysler 300} Paint formulas

I will offer my opinion based on experience. It may differ from others here.

 

Formulas work if someone somewhere came up with an acceptable color match using modern urethanes rather than antique lacquers and enamels. That is what your shop is asking, is there a formula out there that works today is what they want to know. So if you saw a car recently painted in a correct 300 color and you had his or her formula, that is a good way to start. Old formulations will not help. Old paint chips have faded. Benchmarks today are surviving original cars with some original paint left and photos. At the end of the day it will be a close match but ultimately your discretion.

 

Best thing is to order the paint in the stock color you seek and then have your painter do several spray-outs using tints to dial the color in. You need a benchmark to dial towards, any original paint left, or another car with a correct color you want to duplicate.  You can order paint in the stock colors, even 60 year old colors, but you will need to have a benchmark to use as a match. I painted a 56 Cadillac Dawn Grey which is a pale violet that can look pink if improperly tinted. I ordered Dawn Grey from Glasurit using a Ditzler or RM color chart from the internet. Then we did two or three cardboard spray-outs and tinted to match them to original paint under the trunk lid. Is it dead on? No way to know but I like it.

 

Danny Plotkin

 

From: chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of D.C. Mason
Sent: Thursday, December 1, 2022 11:46 AM
To: Chrysler 300 club <chrysler-300-club-international@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: {Chrysler 300} Paint formulas

 



Hello all,

 

Does anyone know of a good source for paint formulas for our cars (letter or non letter)?   We have information on paint chips and codes, but the actual formula is something our local paint shop asked for, since the code didn’t cross to a formula for mixing.  

 

Recently Jay Hackleman was looking for a formula for parade green; not sure that was ever resolved.  It may be wishful thinking that there is a site that has formulas for all the colors.   Looking at email archives led to a page on the club site with additional codes but not actual formulas.  

 

 

Thanks!

D&K

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