Re: {Chrysler 300} Silicone dot 5. Brake fluid
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Re: {Chrysler 300} Silicone dot 5. Brake fluid



Good point about the hoses Doug; I forgot to mention that when replacing wheel cylinders and master, also replace all three rubber brake hoses.  Only leave steel lines.  Or replace those too (cupric nickel lines are nice to work with and will not rust), but for sure anything with rubber.   Gotta get any trace of glycol out of system.  

D&K



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On Oct 6, 2023, at 10:00, Doug Warrener <2HsandaHeritage@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi All,
When I got my 62 - 300 Sport Conv. In 2011, the brakes were a rusty mess. I purchased new wheel cylinders and hoses and either rebuilt or bought a rebuilt master cylinder. Then, before attaching the steel lines, I flushed them out with alcohol and blew them out with air. DOT 5 was then used. No problems or visual contamination since.
Doug Warrener


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On Oct 6, 2023, at 5:26 AM, John Grady <jkg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Hi .. something strange happened here as rust is only possible with glycol . Just the chemistry . not debating the story , but it was not silicone fluid that caused this .
Some kind of mistake in labeling or whatever as water is immiscable in silicone . It’s not possible . Or lines had incompatible fluid in them . I do not know , I don’t doubt story 

The military has it in every single vehicle they own , often stored 25 years . They have to work for sure the day pulled out . I have it in 25 cars zero issues other than very hard to get bled right  
Yes you can use glycol and  drain every 3 years . I did not follow that on mercedes due to  negligence on my part it cost me 3000 in brake replacement parts and service —  ABS etc which is incompatible with silicone fluid .

But over all my 300’s , over many years I’d say 85 % had a big rust pit on the bottom of the wheel cylinder due to water carried there by glycol . It is designed to hold  water until saturated , and that water should come out when you drain it regularly .
But people  NEVER did that on 300 , as the 85% shows . It comes out of saturation in a cold day at the bottom of the wheel cylinder 
What  happens is it was ok anyway  at a long ago rebuild — when you rebuild brake shoes ( depends on wear ) you push pistons in more it seals ok , but as pistons move out with wear of shoe or worst of all a panic stop , one day you uncover the rust pit at the seal lip and all your brake fluid gushes out . It is at 1000 psi 
Some of us think they know more than the military , while i think that may be true in many areas , it is not true here 
I think the only reason it is not standard fare is very high relative cost especially way back then . And difficult bleeding . 
Your mileage may vary , but your glycol will always absorb moisture at master and carry it to wheel cylinders over many years .
Rust pit shows you that , you have all seen it …. 
jg 

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On Oct 6, 2023, at 12:14 AM, Larry Wood <larryjw7@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:


I say Ron is right.
I tried dot 5 in my 67 GTX.     With all new wheel cylinders and master cylinder flushed system.       As directed. Refilled with      silicone dot 5. 3 years later i was out for a drive came up on a curve my Brake pedal went to the floor? I took the GTX to the garage and I was dumbfounded.  The wheel cylinder was eat up with rust the fluid was like brown jelly? Was it bad fluid  or what .i have found     no answers yet
.replacing all cylinders and using Dot 4  flush system every 2 years

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