Re: 727 trans oil and 63 hestiation
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Re: 727 trans oil and 63 hestiation
- From: harry skalla <moweepea@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 07:54:38 -0800
Once again Don, thanks.......
Butch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Dulmage" <big-d@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: 727 trans oil and 63 hestiation
Generally 7 qtz imp. if the converter is dry as well. After you drive it
for 10 minutes recheck as fair amount will migrate to the tailstock ansd
stay there in all the little pockets.
Sorry about the imperial. Up here where winter is long and it is real cold
we used to drink a lot of rum to keep warm. The smaller American gallon
was just not enough for us to get warm so we went to the imperial gallon
(160 fl oz which is also exaclly 10 lbs of water.)
Now that we are a more reifined group having lost our pioneer spirit we
switched to metric a few years ago since only a litre is needed now to
keep warm (global warmmg of course!!.)
DISCLAIMER This explaination comes from an abstainer of achohal so may not
be 100% accruate but just his opinion)
BTW I and my frends now use synthetic in our trans as it extends the life
under hard use considerably. In fact in many cases it ends completely wear
related failures (front stator support sealing ring failure and therefore
high clutch failure as well. ). i am not a synthetic proponent normally
but this is one place it has payed off well. i have gone into detail
before of how and why we got there so i wont again.
Hesitation in a 63 polara.
WIwith fast idle as well.
The fast idle as mentioned is caused by the fast idle cam which is part of
the choke system. I suspect the choke is not coming off. Why? Because
the carb heat crossover passage is plugged. Aso since the manifold then is
now no longer heated or at least running as hot as it was desgined to
when originally the carb wa calibrated when the car was deisgned it
requires a different mixture so would proabaly hesitate even if the choke
was disconnected. (Just undo the clip on the choke spring rod and let the
choke flop open if you want to try it.
Since mopars, which were always known for great gas mileage, are jetted
near the edge they have no extra to deal with a cold manifold.
How do you know if you choke is coming of fast enough? (which also tells
do i have enough carb heat from the manifold heat passage) Here is the
tune up mans rule of thumb from the days of chokes and carbs. The choke
should be full off. (able to reach low idle or base idle for instance in 5
minutes from start up . Regardless of outside temp since once the engine
starts it is on engne temp and could care less about outside temperatures.
(Just like us in a house . We shower and bath when it is -20F outside and
it doesnt bother us because we are on house temp not outside temp. I know
there is cold air flowing over the motor but after the rad gets warm even
that is not totally cold and it would take more air than we could push to
cool the motor of enough to bother a propely working choke heat system.
Lastly the newer gasoline does not really like running on the old jetting
and i often jet up one or two sizes to bring the calobration back in line.
Accel pump is easliy checked. open the choke and pump the throttle.(ENGINE
NOT RUNNIG OF COURSE) You should see a strong stream from the accel pump
nozzles. If not replace the pump (actually overhaul the carb. Dont do
half a job. Mom, who was a [poet always told me. "Whatever you do do
with your might. Things done by halfs are never done right. )
I have seen where all of these factors came into play on more than one
engine with some age on it. .
To fix the carb heat the manifold must be removesd. (A series engnes need
the antifreeze drained frst. B/RB Series dont since it is a dry manifold.
Find the heat passage in the centre port of the manifold . it will be
plugged with black sooty carbon. Using a big screwdriver that you dont
care about do whatever you need to do to open this passage up from both
sides. So you can blow air through it easily. it wouldnt hurt to hot tank
the mnifold but i reasonble effort can be made using strong solvent to
wash the port about several times.
Of course for summer cars with big hp we plug this passage and rejet and
choke?( approx 55 hp so Bill Bagshaw said on the dyno) Choke? What choke?
The only time we choke is when we take too big a bite from our burgers!
Don
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----- Original Message -----
From: "harry skalla" <moweepea@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 10:04 AM
Subject: Re: 727 trans oil
Thanks Stevan
Butch
----- Original Message -----
From: "Stevan Miner" <miner@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: 727 trans oil
Hi Butch,
I start with 4 quarts. Start the car in neutral, run it through the
gears once, shut it off and add a couple more. Repeat the process and
bring the level up to just over the add mark.
Stevan Miner
Miner Auto Service
Winnebago MN
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From: "harry skalla" <moweepea@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, March 07, 2008 4:40 PM
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Subject: 727 trans oil
Clear DayHi all, getting ready to fill my tranny up , does anyone know
how many quarts goes into a stock 727 with stock pan?? Thanks,
Butch
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