Bob "if it were me" with all new ball joints and bushings-tie rod
ends---
Unless your car will not adust up to acceptable ride height with your
current torsion bars, I would not change them . Put some heavy duty
shocks
on that luxury liner of yours and with all those things you are doing
-it
should drive like new.---Unless you are going road course
racing!.......................MO
----- Original Message -----
From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, August 18, 2009 3:38 PM
Subject: RE: Torsion Bar Project...WOW
>
> Thanks for filing me in.. makes sense now.. so even though my car is
> stock, it could possibly benifit from a torsion bar upgrade,to give a
> bit more "drivablity"
>
> Ollie wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>> My problem began when I pulled a 318 poly(SB) out of my 65 Satellite
>> and
>>
>> replaced it with a 1972-440(BB). To compensate for the eng weight
>> different
>> I needed to upgrade the torsion bars immediately. At that time I did
>> not
>> know anything about this suspension system. (2 years later, much
>> research, I
>> am now an expert witness)
>> Originally to get the vehicle aligned we had to lower the suspension
>> system...the height adjustment... to be able to bring the camber and
>> castor
>> adjustments within reasonable adjustment range. We were not within
>> specifications , but darn close.
>> As a result of this folly my entire front end was to low. (ride
>> height)
>> My
>> shocks were not getting full travel, they bottomed out hard , when
>> that
>> happened I was all over the road. Any speed in excess of 70 you were
>> driving out of control, especially in any bumpy situation, risking
>> life
>> and
>> limb.... but worst of all... my Mopar.
>> I replaced the original torsion bars with .920's. (what they would
>> have
>>
>> been from the factory with a Big Block) My research also told me that
>> we
>>
>> have a weak tower system on our cars (upper A frame support) and they
>> will
>> sag. To compensate for this you need to replace the non-adjustable
>> strut
>>
>> rods with adjustable ones, allowing you to drag the lower control arm
>> fwd
>> for castor adjustments.
>> Even if you have not upgraded an eng...this torsion bar system is not
>> near
>> as tuff as a upper/lower A frame, coil spring system. We are dealing
>> with 45
>> year old vehicles and u need new torsion bars and adjustable strut
>> rods.
>> All
>> of this learning curve has been rough, but today it has all come
>> together.
>> Now keep in mind MS Cruiser does not drive like a new Challenger,
>> we're
>> 45
>> years of technology behind, but she loves to roll now....
>> MOPAR.....Move Over Plymouth Approaching Rapidly
>> Ollie's 2 cents.
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: <62pluckedchicken@xxxxxxxxx>
>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
>> Sent: Monday, August 17, 2009 3:38 PM
>> Subject: RE: Torsion Bar Project...WOW
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Cool results! refresh my memory.. what was the original problem?
>> > was
>> > this to make the ride firmer when ya step on it?
>> > Ollie wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> MS Cruiser update...My torsion bar and adjustable strut rod upgrade
>> >> is
>> >> now finished. Complete alignment this morning. WOW !!
>> >> Every problem I had has disappeared!! Getting full travel of my
>> >> shocks
>> >> now, swaying when hitting a bump is gone. Tommy was able to get
>> >> everything within specs.
>> >> I backed out of it at 105 mph. I had more rpm left and was
>> >> comfortable
>> >> with the steering. The one recommendation I would give anyone is to
>> >> get
>> >> this done first and not save it to one of the last projects as i
>> >> did.
>> >> I
>> >> would also say the adj strut rods are a must. When we installed the
>> >> rods
>> >> and matched them to the original we were about 1/2 way in the
>> >> adjustment. They are now pulled in all the way, no adjustment left.
>> >> Just for info purposes..fender height ended up exactly 26" (for
>> >> what
>> >> its
>> >> worth)
>> >> Happy camper, Ollie
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
>> >>
>> >
>> >
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