Re: rear window gasket/weatherstrip for 1964 dodge dart

I've studied 'Group 23' of the parts manual for 1964, 1965, and 1966 Dodge Darts in detail with hopes of answering the question "will the re-pop 1965-1966 Dart rear glass weatherstrip fit a 1964 Dart?"

glass: the rear glass is the same for 1964-1966 Darts. everything from Hollander to the Dodge Group-23 section all agree. for all three years, the PN was 2480708 and 2481027 for tinted.

stainless trim: for all three years, the stainless trim is identical: 2495279, 2495284-5, and 2495286.

So if the glass and the trim are the same, the only other thing that joins, contacts, or might other restrict the fit of the weather strip is want Chrysler called the "window opening fence". This is the sheet metal lip that the weatherstrip fits to on the body. On a 1964-1966 Dart, this fence is formed by four parts, all of which are identical for all three years: the roof 2480704, the dutchman panel 2480705, and two sides pieces, 2480706-7. here is a picture of a right side piece laid over the top of my car:

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So, I can only assume the 1965-1966 weatherstrip fits a 1964. I'll find out soon enough when I tackle that rust repair. I'll report back to the list with "real evidence"!!!

On Tue, Jan 28, 2014 at 2:18 AM, D. Ahern <doug@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On Mon, Jan 27, 2014 at 6:08 PM, Jim Auxier <auxierjim@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

I just read an article on the dodge darts on the Allpar.com site they say the 1964 dart had a bigger rear window and differnt trim seal than the 63 and this bigger rear window and trim were continued thru 1966

that's not the full story. the glass for 1963 is one year only for sure. and thus so is the trim and the weatherstrip. This picture shows the uniqueness:

http://www.moparmax.com/features/2008/iii_6-mangledmopars/DODGE-05.jpg

compared to a 1964:
http://bellaonthebeach.files.wordpress.com/2012/10/1964-dodge-dart-rear-side-view.jpg

the 64-66 glass is the same, unfortunately, it does not mean the seal/weatherstrip is the same. everything about the rear glass on a '63 is unique (trim,seal,glass, sheet metal around it..). Not everything from 1964-1966 is identical. glass is,, a lot of the sheet metal around it is,, but the weathrstrip/seal, is for whatever reason, seems to have a different PN.

so if the glass is the same (which it is), it must come down to either the "window opening fence" formed by the sheet metal, or the stainless trim, right? what else would persuade Chrysler to make a distinction?

My original 1964 seal does not have a lock strip, It doesn't appear to even have the push in rubber lock strip used on 66-67 Bodies.. does the 65-66 have a lock strip?

here are some observations from a '66 parts manual.

1966 2dr 4dr darts: (no valiant):

Here are all the 1966 PN's for the sheetmetal that surrounds the glass:

first, the roof: 2480704 (1966)

moving down from the roof, on either side:

"roof extension": 2602578 (right) 2602579 (left) (1966)

at the bottom corners of the window, there is "panel": 2528806 (right) 252807 (left) (1966)

connecting these two corner panels is the dutchman panel or "deck opening, upper": 2480705 (1966)

weather strip: 2574017 (1966)

bright work trim: bottom 2495286; sides 2495284-5; top 2495279

this might seem like overkill, but these are all the pieces of sheet metal that the weatherstrip joins with. I'd love to compare these numbers with corresponding numbers in a 1964 parts manual.