Re: Trans pushbutton units

[Robert <r.lane@xxxxxxxxxx>]

Schuyler
Thanks again. I know you suggested dropping the pan before, but that was the 
next step that we didnt get time for. It's on the cards for the next session 
tho!
We didnt get round to checking the parking cable down at the trans end - 
just up behind the dash when refitting the unit. The adjustment seemed a bit 
off, as I recall, so we'll have a look at that again too.
As for the trans cable, we ended up knowing it wasnt adjusted right but 
still confused as to how far out it was. I'd go so far as to say I didn't 
know what gear the trans was in when I left my brothers that day, after all 
the pushing of pushbuttons that more often than not, didnt latch in. I'm 
hoping it will all become clear once the pan is dropped. Just a shame there 
isnt anything in the manual about the adjuster mechanism from inside the 
pan. Not that I remember, anyway.
Thanks for the warning about the parking lock lever spring. Ours has 
survived coming off then going back on, so we'll be more careful next time
All the best
Robert
63 Polara 500
England


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Schuyler" <schuyler62@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2007 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: Trans pushbutton units


> Robert, my 64 factory service manual states-

> "The following procedures describe the gearshift
> control unit adjustments. If the transmission fails to
> shift into NEUTRAL when the parking lock is applied,
> inspect the parking lock lever travel in the instrument
> panel slot and the parking lock cable adjustment
> at the transmission before adjusting the control unit."
>
> there is no adjustment for the gearshift cable except at
> the transmission end. your adjustment might be a
> quarter turn, of the adjusting wheel, off? but you'll
> never know which way, or how much till you pull
> the pan and look. the gearshift cable moves very little
> for each position, so this adjustment needs to be as
> dead on as possible. It was the only way I could do it
> when I put the engine and trans back in my 62 wagon.
>
> the control unit at the dash very rarely needs adjusting.
> but if you are going to mess with it be careful with the
> parking lock lever spring! I've had two break on me,
> one on its own, the other while I was trying to remove
> it.
>
> hope this helps, just my humble opinion of what might
> be the problem.
>
> Schuyler
>
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>
> On Feb 4, 2007, at 7:35 PM, Paul Lennemann wrote:
>
> > This unit is an extra from a parts car.  I wouln't want to try to  do it
> > too many times as I think the metal would fatigue.  But you don't have
> > to move it too far to free up the cable.
> >
> > Paul L.
> > '63 Sport Fury
> > 440/727
> > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html
> >
> > Robert Lane wrote:
> > > Hey Paul, thanks for braving the cold for us! No such worries over 
> > > here;
> > >
> > > global warming's keeping the freezing temps at bay for us!
> > > So I guess you managed to pry open the crimped connection at some 
> > > stage.
> > > Do
> > > you think it would close back up ok if you need to use the unit at  some
> > > stage in the future? Like you mentioned earlier, I'm a bit  sceptical as
> > > to
> > > how 'workable' the brackets is....
> > >
> > > Robert
> > > 63 Polara 500
> > > England
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: "Paul Lennemann" <pjlenn@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2007 7:51 PM
> > > Subject: RE: Trans pushbutton units
> > >
> > >
> > > > I took a look at your pictures and then at my push button unit  and 
> > > > there
> > > > really isn't any more to see than with the pictues you've posted.  I
> > > > have both of my cables removed, the park cable by opening up the 
> > > > clamp,
> > > > the shift cable by removing the bracket the cable is attached to.
> > > >
> > > > Paul L.
> > > > '63 Sport Fury
> > > > 440/727
> > > > http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/ml-lennemann63.html
> > > >
> > > > Robert Lane wrote:
> > > > > Hi Paul, thanks for the reply.
> > > > >
> > > > > Our unit has also needed more pressure to depress the buttons  than I
> > > > > thought
> > > > > it should. I've always dreaded the thought of using 1st, 2nd, &  drive 
> > > > > on
> > > > > the
> > > > > 1/4 - wondering how well it would cope when it's really needed!
> > > > > Apart from the pressure required to change gear, it didn't  really 
> > > > > play
> > > > > up
> > > > > until we got the engine & box back in the car, after the rebuild 
> > > > > (last
> > > > > Sept). That's why I thought it might be more to do with  adjustment 
> > > > > down
> > > > > at
> > > > > the trans end.
> > > > > We haven't managed/attempted to remove the cables yet. When we  saw 
> > > > > the
> > > > > brackets had been bent over to retain the cables, we thought it  was a
> > > > > previous-owner-bodge. One cable has the 'P' clip (like a hood  pin, or
> > > > > hairpin) but the other has no clip. The spindle that it sits on  has 
> > > > > had
> > > > > its
> > > > > end flattened to stop the cable coming off. I'm sure it could be 
> > > > > filed
> > > > > tho
> > > > > to remove the cable end. Any idea what should be holding the  cable 
> > > > > on?
> > > > > Another P clip?
> > > > > We should be able to do something with the brackets too, so will 
> > > > > attend
> > > > > to
> > > > > that next time.
> > > > > These are a couple of pics taken when the unit was hanging from the
> > > > > dash.
> > > > > You can just about see the cable ends & the brackets bent over.
> > > > > http://uk.pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/rob426uk/album?.dir=/ 
> > > > > b785scd&.src=ph&.tok=phx4.OGBSPWSf43B
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Paul, when you had your unit removed, can you remember if, when you
> > > > > pressed
> > > > > the pushbutton levers, did they stay latched in when pressed? I  don't
> > > > > remember any of our levers staying in; they all just sprang  back. 
> > > > > Just
> > > > > trying to get an idea what to look for to identify whether there is
> > > > > anything
> > > > > wrong with our unit, or whether it's more cable/trans.
> > > > >
> > > > > Best Regards
> > > > >
> > > > > Robert
> > > > > 63 Polara 500
> > > > > England
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > > From: "Paul Lennemann" <pjlenn@xxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > > Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2007 2:40 PM
> > > > > Subject: RE: Trans pushbutton units
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > > Robert, How did the unit work before the rebuild?  What happens  if 
> > > > > > you
> > > > > > disconnect the cable by removing the small retaining clip,  "hairpin"
> > > > > > and
> > > > > > operate the unit free of the cable?  When I bought mine it had 
> > > > > > similar
> > > > > > problems, when you pushed drive the previously depressed button
> > > > > > wouldn't
> > > > > > always pop out.  I used some penetrating oil and compressed air to
> > > > > > remove accumulated lint, dust, etc. and get it lubed up again.   This
> > > > > > cured the problem.  Mine still takes more pressure than I think it
> > > > > > should to get the buttons depressed but at least beyond that it is
> > > > > > working correctly.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Paul L.
> > > > > > '63 Sport Fury
> > > > > > 440/727
> > > >
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