Gary nailed it. I removed the brake hose that runs between the axle and the hard line that goes to the front of the car, pressed on the brake pedal, and finally got some fluid out of the hard line. I always thought that hose was just a hose, but I see by looking at it that it has some kind of bladder in it. I'm on my way to the parts house to see what I can get to replace it. I'm replacing all the hard lines with new ones as I go, so will have a renewed system and now know something I didn't about my brake system. Thanks for all the suggestions and tips. /Butch/ Ferndale, WA -----Original Message----- From: Gary H. [mailto:62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx] Sent: Monday, June 04, 2007 5:52 PM To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx Subject: RE: 64 Plymouth Sport Fury Brake lines The brake hose that supplies fluid to the rear cylinders probably is collapsed inside, thus preventing fluid from squeezing past. Put a new rear brake hose on and see. You probably should replace that hose anyway if its age is not known. Thanks, Gary H. W.A.Edison wrote: > > I'm restoring a 1964 Plymouth Sport Fury, manual brakes, single master > cylinder, stock 10" drums all around. When I pulled the rear drums to > check the brakes, could not get brake fluid to either side using > normal bleeding procedures. I unhooked the rear brake lines from the > wheel cylinders, asked my bride to stand on the brake pedal, still no > brake fluid to either side, so it's not the wheel cylinders. I took > off the rear brake lines at the distribution valve on the rear axle, > no fluid there under pressure either. ... > /Butch/ Ferndale, WA > ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html. ---- Please address private mail -- mail of interest to only one person -- directly to that person. I.e., send parts/car transactions and negotiations as well as other personal messages only to the intended recipient, not to the Clubhouse public address. This practice will protect your privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine tune the content signal to Mopar topic. Thanks! '62 to '65 Mopar Clubhouse Discussion Guidelines: http://www.1962to1965mopar.ornocar.org/mletiq.html.