RE: Beginners question sorry
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RE: Beginners question sorry
- From: Doug Jacobsma <big_jake57@xxxxxxxxxxx>
- Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 13:12:01 -0600
When I was 16, my first car I could drive whenever I wanted was my Dad's 59 Coronet with the 326. That thing would indeed get with the program. Made alot of classmates Chebby and Fords look silly. I soon got my first '63 Fury which was a 318 poly. It ran well too, but Dad beat me with the '59.
Lots of fun, those days.
Jake
'63 Sport Fury 'vert
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> From: zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx
> Subject: Re: Beginners question sorry
> Date: Fri, 11 Dec 2009 01:40:08 -0600
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> Ironically the 326 in my 59 Coronet will run circles around the 361 in my 63
> Sport Fury!! Both are stock 2 bbl motors that run good with dual exhaust.
> Actually I get better gas mileage with the Dodge also.
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> Herb
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> 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
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> 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
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> 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1
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> 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
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> 1970 Challenger RT 440 - 4 Sale
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> 1999 Durango SLT 5.9
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> 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1
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> St. Louis, MO.
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> http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
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> If my calculations are correct........Slinky + Escalator= Everlasting Fun!!!
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> From: MO ( Steve Mick)
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> Date: 12/11/2009 12:48:59 AM
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> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
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> Subject: Re: Beginners question sorry
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> Thanks Gary for the poly lesson. I never knew much about them. I just know
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> the old 318 ran pretty good !................................MO
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> From: "Gary Pavlovich" <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
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> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
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> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 11:52 PM
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> Subject: Re: Beginners question sorry
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>> Dave,
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>> The 318A "Poly" engine that many refer to is nicknamed a "Poly" because
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>> the head design is a Polyspherical combustion chamber with canted valves
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>> (angled intake & offset from the exhaust - not in the same plane and side
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>> by side as the Wedge chamber) as opposed to a HEMIspherical chamber.
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>> The Plymouth Poly was produced from 1956-66 as a 277, 301, 303, 313, 318,
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>> and 326 (1959 Dodge only) and shares many of the same parts as the later
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>> 273/318/340/360LA Wedge-head engines. Sometimes the aforementioned
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>> Wedge-head engines are mistakenly called "A" engines which can be
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>> confusing.
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>> Interestingly, the modern 4.7 Chrysler engines are a Polyspherical chamber
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>> design and not a wedge design; even the new HEMI's are not true 90degree
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>> Hemispherical valve layout.
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>> The BMEP, brake-mean-effective-pressure of a Poly engine is far superior
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>> to the Wedge chamber and slightly behind the HEMI;
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>> "...the poly engine had one absolutely unique feature: its volumetric
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>> efficiency. If the Mopar figures as found in the Plymouth factory manual
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>> are to be believed, torque of the poly 318 was 345 lb.ft. Now, take torque
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>> and divide it by cubes, then multiply this by 151, and you get brake mean
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>> effective pressure (bmep). Try it for your self: bmep for the poly 318 is
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>> 164 psi. (Again, that's the figure Plymouth gives). That is near to the
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>> theoretical limit for an unsupercharged engine (and that's with the old
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>> log-type exhaust manifolds too) and is very close to the 426 hemi's bmep
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>> of 173psi, which had all those performance-designed components. The bmep
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>> figure purely reflects breathing efficiency (proportional use of the
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>> charge coming into the engine), and is a product of the head, as opposed
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>> to the block, which just needs to suck/blow as rapidly as possible without
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>> flying into little pieces..."
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>> Gary Pavlovich
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>> ----- Original Message -----
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>> From: "Dave Isle" <mnwildpunk@xxxxxxxxx>
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>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
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>> Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2009 8:56 PM
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>> Subject: Beginners question sorry
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>>> I see a lot of you guys saying you have a poly this or a poly that. I
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>>> know it is a type of engine but which one is it and what makes it a poly.
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>>> Thank you for being patient and answering this probably
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>>> silly question. Dave
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