Re: 273 Rebuild status and how much compression we can run on pump gas w

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

I remember when I was a kid that my dad used to add moth balls to his gasoline for his circle track racer in the 40's and 50's.
I don't know what the ratio was but he won  a lot of races.
Later
Bill Harrison

--- On Sun, 1/24/10, Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Gary Pavlovich <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild status and how much compression we can run on pump gas w
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Sunday, January 24, 2010, 11:36 PM
> 
> Toulene is an element used in many Octane boosters but I am
> investigating some
> "stuff" that seems to have repeat customers in the race
> crowd.
> 
> Gary
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Rich Kinsley" <rlkinsley@xxxxxxxxx>
> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2010 6:09 PM
> Subject: RE: 273 Rebuild status and how much compression we
> can run on pump gas w
> 
> 
> > 
> > How about Toululene ?? I've heard it'll up youe ET
> measurably if you add
> > a can to a tank of gas. I'll let you know next season
> :-)
> > 
> > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> >
> =====================================================================
> > Gary Pavlovich wrote:
> >> 
> >> Steve,
> >> 
> >> I will share the information I gather on the
> compression tolerance of
> >> 91-93
> >> unleaded; we have the 91 unleaded swamp water in
> CA, you may be blessed
> >> with
> >> the higher octane where you live.
> >> 
> >> I am presently investigating three promising
> Octane Boosters that if
> >> they
> >> work
> >> "as advertised" are cost effective; none of these
> three are commercially
> >> 
> >> available on the typical mass-merchandiser/auto
> parts shelves.
> >> 
> >> Gary Pavlovich
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "MO ( Steve
> Mick)" <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Friday, January 22, 2010 2:55 PM
> >> Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild status and how much
> compression we can run on
> >> pump
> >> gas w/10.5 mo
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > The highest compressiopn ratio for 92 octane
> is something I have been
> >> > debating  on my build plans.  Gary,
> I would like to know what you come
> >> > up
> >> > with..................................MO
> >> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Gary
> Pavlovich" <glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>
> >> > To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> > Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:14 PM
> >> > Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild status and how much
> compression we can run on
> >> > pump gas w/10.5 mo
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Tom,
> >> >>
> >> >> With 10.5 pistons you will raise your
> compression considerably more >> than
> >> >>
> >> >> most pump gas will handle.  What
> fuel will you be using and will you >> be
> >> >> adding an octane booster or a bit of
> "race" fuel?
> >> >>
> >> >> I have been researching the correct
> octane level for 10 to 10.5 to 1
> >> >> true
> >> >> compression motors and would appreciate
> any research/experiential >> input
> >> >> from our list members.
> >> >>
> >> >> Gary Pavlovich
> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >>
> From: "Tom Watters" <tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> >> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 7:54 PM
> >> >> Subject: Re: 273 Rebuild status
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>> Steve,
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Good Point.  The New pistons
> will require that, even with all the >>> manual
> >> >>>
> >> >>> checks Egge does, there's still the
> need when adding pistons and pins
> >> >>> that something might be askew. 
> Dont want to flub up the forged >>> crank.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Will have to add it to the
> list.  Appreciate it.
> >> >>>
> >> >>> --Tom
> >> >>>
> >> >>> Steven Charette wrote:
> >> >>>> Tom,
> >> >>>> You got money tucked away to
> rebalance the rotating assembly?
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> SC
> >> >>>> -----Original Message-----
> >> >>>> From: Tom Watters [mailto:tomwatters@xxxxxxxxxxx]
> Sent: Thursday,
> >> >>>> January 21, 2010 10:14 PM
> >> >>>> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> >> >>>> Subject: 273 Rebuild status
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Well, it looks like I'll be
> rebuilding the 273 rather than just a
> >> >>>> refresh
> >> >>>> (Rings & beargings). 
> Needs boring, which means pistons and the >>>>
> like.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> After bumping around on the
> phone, I got some good recommendations >>>> of
> >> >>>> friend
> >> >>>> of the the local car club
> president for a machine shop.  It seems to
> >>>> be
> >> >>>> on
> >> >>>> the high end of average, but I
> can tell he does know his stuff. >>>> When I
> >> >>>> talked to Nellis Machine or Las
> Vegas Crank and Machine, they didnt
> >> >>>> leave me
> >> >>>> with a comfortable feeling about
> taking in my original block to >>>> them.
> >> >>>> I
> >> >>>> told HBR Competition Engies I
> will be dropping off the Block, Heads,
> >> >>>> Crank
> >> >>>> and Pistons tomorrow
> afternoon.  Total for Bore (175-200)/Crank Turn
> >> >>>> (95)/Cam Bearing install
> >> >>>> (75)/re-condition rods (25-35) is
> at a 500-600, depending.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> This will cause me to buy
> pistons. Only one company makes (egge) the
> >> >>>> 10.5:1s, Those will run about
> $300
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Cam/Lifters from Racer Brown is
> now on Order $235+Tax.  Ordered #
> >> >>>> ST-1 -
> >> >>>> Mechanical Cam.  Its a
> little lumpier than the stock HiPo Cam (450 >>>>
> lift
> >> >>>> instead of 425), but not as big
> as the D-Dart race cam (495 lift). >>>> It
> >> >>>> should give me what I want.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> So barring a ton of head work,
> the rest of the parts I'm looking at
> >> >>>> will be
> >> >>>> about $300 (Timing Chain,
> Teardown set, Freeze Plugs, Bearings, >>>>
> Rings,
> >> >>>> etc)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Total for a full rebuild minus
> head work, I'm looking at $1435.  if >>>>
> I
> >> >>>> need
> >> >>>> head work, Usually about another
> $200-$500
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> If He were assembling, it'd be
> another 1000 or so.
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Now to get the taxes submitted so
> I have the funds to pay for it >>>> with
> >> >>>> my
> >> >>>> return.  ;-)
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>> Regards and Happy Moparing.
> >> >>>> --Tom
> >> >>>>
> >> >>>>
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> > 
> > 
> > Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr 318poly w/goodies
> > 
> > 
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