Re: 426 block was (Re: test and tune)

[Dick Shoup <shoupr@xxxxxxxxx>]

Somewhere in the conversation it was stated that only 10 426 wedge cars were built? I ordered a 64 Polara 500 in 1964 with the street 426 with a 4 speed and Detroit locker 4.10 gear. It wasn't competitive with the 409's  and the 421 pontiac's that the farm boys had and street raced. It was competitive after a cam change and headers. I blew out several clutches and spun a rod bearing which cost me dearly.After the new short block and more head work and the addition of two four barrel carbs it was a bear and won many street races as well at the track.  Just one of the  many i've owned that got away.... Oh well life goes on.
 
Dick Shoup



----- Original Message ----
From: "Dodger7998@xxxxxxx" <Dodger7998@xxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Wed, May 26, 2010 8:25:46 AM
Subject: Re: 426 block was (Re: test and tune)



Ok,,,,,,,,guess I was under the impression that the street wedges did not  
come about until the 65 models, sorry, I stand corrected,,,,,, dodger


In a message dated 5/26/2010 7:56:13 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
ledman_70@xxxxxxxxxxx writes:


Ron  didn't say it was a Max Wedge, but a 426 Street Wedge car... there's 
a big  difference.
Dodger7998@xxxxxxx wrote:
> 
> 
> After  rereading your post I see that you say it was a single 4 MW 
> engine, I  
>  have only known of one that was still on the street, and ole  Don was 
> running  one, I had talked to him about it once, I had  seen a single 4 
> MW intake 
> on ebay  that went for big  bucks, and he confirmed that it was an OEM 
> part 
> for me, I  have  a feeling that you would be able to come up with a good 
>  426 
> block long before  you find another single 4 intake for  
> one,,,,,,,,,,,,,good 
> luck with what ever  your  direction is
>  
>  
> In a message dated  5/26/2010 7:25:02 A.M. Central Daylight Time,  
>  Dodger7998@xxxxxxx writes:
> 
> 
> 
> You still have  not said what your intentions for the car  are, and with 
> out  
>  
> knowing what direction you are headed it is hard  to give advice as to 
> the 
> best  way to go, I personally  would probably  go with a stock 440 block, 
> 
> and 
>  start  gathering all of the max wedge  parts I could find for it,  with 
> the 
> hopes of  coming across a 426  block some  day at which time the MW parts 
> 
> could 
> be  switched  over to,  I think that you will find a 440 with a MW top  
> end 
> on 
> it to be beefy  enough to supply  plenty of fun as a weekend racer, and 
> lots 
> of  OHHHs  in it  for the cruises when you open your hood
>  
> 
> In a message  dated 5/25/2010 9:21:27 P.M. Central  Daylight Time,  
> ronsold102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx writes:
>  
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> Thanks Don I  agree with what you have  said.  Unfortunately the 426 
> block  
> has
>  already been hogged out. I just haven't  bought it yet because of  the 
> over
> bore. I also have a 62 413 block, but am  wary  about taking  it .070 and 
> 
> it's
> not the 426  block the car came with. The  car is in  the registry and 
>  was 
> #10
> of 13 426 single 4 bbl. Cars according  to  Covier(sp). If I don't buy 
> the 
> 426
> block I will  probably have to go  the  stroked 440 route due to cost and
>  unavailability of original 426  wedge  blocks. Unless some one has a  
426 
> 
> wedge
> block out  there.
> Ron  
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Donald  Gallimore  [mailto:dongallimore@xxxxxxx] 
> Sent: Tuesday, May 25,  2010  8:02 PM
> To:  1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject: Re: test and  tune
> 
> First advice  - don't  mess up an original 426W car.  There weren't that 
> 
>  many
> and  they do and will command a  premium.
>  
> I don't speak as an expert but a  100 over 426 is  probably  going to be 
> too
> thin a wall.  I've have a  .070 413  to  make it a 426 and that seems to 
> be
> acceptable from  what I have  read  over the years.  I suggest you look 
>  into
> ultrasound testing  with  someone who understands the  signifcance of the 
> 
> data
> if you are going    to go that route.  Or find a 440 and save that 
> correct  
> date
> coded  426..
> 
> Akron Don  Gallimore
> 
> 
> 
> -----  Original  Message  ----
> > From: Ron Soldani  <ronsold102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> > To:    1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Sent: Tue, May 25, 2010 8:43:02  PM
> >  Subject: RE: test and tune
> > 
>  >  ${top_text_ad}
> Hi  mike
> Thanks for the  details, again an 
> >  awesome  running machine. One of  the
> 64s I have is a 426 4 spd wedge  car from  
> >  the factory and I'm debating
> whether to put a 426  wedge  block  that's been 
> > bored .100 (440 .030 over
>  pistons)  for originality or  take a 440 and stroke 
> >  it. I'm concerned  about
> the amount of  overbore on the orig  426 block 
> > (overheat  not strong enough
> etc).  Anybody out there have suggestions. I  
> > haven't bought the  426  short
> block yet, but it has the right  casting numbers  
> > and date  code for the car.
> Anyone have  experience with the 426 wedge blocks 
> >  being bored out  that  much?
> 
> Ron 
> 
> -----Original 
>  >  Message-----
> From:  mike creglow [mailto:>  ymailto="mailto:mcreglow@xxxxxxxxx" ; 
> >  href="mailto:mcreglow@xxxxxxxxx";>mcreglow@xxxxxxxxx]  
> Sent:  Tuesday, May  
> > 25, 2010 10:25 AM
> To:  >  
>  href="mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx";>1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
>  Subject:  
> > Re: test and tune
> 
>  ${top_text_ad}
> hi ron,
> 
> Drive    train:
> Motor: 
> > 400 block with 4.15" Eagle crank, Eagle  440  connecting rods,
> Ross forged 
> > pistons  (12.5 compression),  gap-less  rings, Cam Motion
> custom  grind mech flat 
> > tappet  cam  (.640"
> lift/ 283  duration @ 50), Indy SR heads that have been  
> >  ported  to max
> wedge size (valves
> 2.19/1.81), Indy single  plane  intake,  
> > Holley dominator (8896), MSD
>  ignition  system
> w/ digital 6-plus,  crank 
> >  triggered ignition, TTI 2"/2  1/8" step  headers.
> 
>  Transmission: A-727 w/ 
> > Griner reverse  pattern valve  body, Ultimate
> (A Lopo understudy) 5100 stall 
> >  converter, bolt in  sprag, stock gear  set,
>  ultra-bell.
> 
> mike
> 
> On 
> > Mon,  May  24, 2010 at  4:05 PM, Ron Soldani  <>
>  ymailto="mailto:ronsold102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx"; 
> >    href="mailto:ronsold102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx";>ronsold102@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>
>  wrote:
> >
> >  
> > OHHHH  YEAHHH  awesome Mike. Could you let me know some  engine  
details? 
>  > I
> > 
> > just gotta 64 Fury that was a drag  racer and I  need to put a fresh 
> > motor
> in
>  > it. I'd be  kool if I could  get some runs like that. Thx  
> >  Ron
> 
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