just something to talk about

[Jack Cheek <jcheek@xxxxxxxxxxxxx>]

hi all
thanks for the tips on the (CONVERTOR -HILEY COIL)mopar only----long treaded plugs vs short treaded plugs
just wondering why the two differnt plugs and how they came about..was it because of the differnt stokes in the motors-differnt rods lenghts or both---did the differnt heads have a say as well--- closed chamber heads vs open chambers heads --piston  below the deck change when the compresion dropped or -- just wondering something to talk about.
thanks jack
63 polara 500 h.t.
446 with max wedge top end
65 dodge coronet 440 convertible(motor-haven't decided yet) 


----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Safford <hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx>
Date: Thursday, July 29, 2010 17:33
Subject: Re: Tuning a road demon 625 cfm carb
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx

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> I have the electric choke disconnected, and it rotated so that the
> choke plate ( assume that's the big one on top of the carb ) is
> completely vertical. Is there something else I should do with the
> choke?  I found I didn't need it - car starts great w/o it.
> 
> Thanks for the tip on using a beverage can ... I'll make sure I drink
> the BEER first :-)
> 
> Regards,
> Brian
> 
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 5:14 PM, MO ( Steve Mick)
> <micher@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >
> > Bad milage--- my first guess would be  the choke plate partly 
> closed all the
> > time or too big on the primary jet size.
> >
> >  If a Demon bowls are like a Holley-- I take a pop can and cut 
> it into. Lay
> > a rag under the bowl to catch any gas spill- take out one of 
> the lower bowl
> > screws and catch the gas that drains out the hole  into the 
> pop can. . You
> > can do this on the back bowl too...................MO
> >
> >
> > {Steve Mick}
> > http://stevemick.shutterfly.com/pictures#Part%202
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Safford" 
> <hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > Sent: Thursday, July 29, 2010 5:14 AM
> > Subject: Re: Tuning a road demon 625 cfm carb
> >
> >
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> > No, my mileage is terrible *all* the time.  Don't think I've ever
> > witnessed a backfire.
> >
> > The video I have of a guy taking a Demon carb apart and checking
> > everything indicates jets in the secondaries.
> >
> > Since I have vacuum-operated secondaries, I've always been concerned
> > that they're not opening due to low vacuum.
> >
> > The BG guy said 14 at idle was pretty low, so I was wondering 
> if the
> > other vacuum stuff ( brakes, PCV ) was getting in the way.
> >
> > Can I use the vacuum connection for the heater to do that WOT test?
> >
> > And I presume that removing the bowls to even look at stuff 
> should be
> > done with the carb off the car so as to not have fuel spill 
> all over
> > the place ...
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Brian
> >
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 10:58 PM, 65 <65Val@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Brian...are you getting reasonable mileage when just cruising 
> around? If
> >> so,
> >> then your primary jets are probably pretty close. I would 
> suspect the
> >> secondaries are a bit rich. Does the carb have a secondary 
> metering block,
> >> or metering plate? If its a block, you can change the jets in the
> >> secondaries. they are the same as Holley jets. Vacuum could 
> very well be
> >> below 6.5 at WOT. Easy way to check...plumb in a vacuum gauge 
> with a hose
> >> through the firewall, and take her for a ride. Floor it and 
> check the
> >> gauge.
> >> I will bet its closer to 0 than 6.5 . The power valve could 
> be blown as
> >> well. This is caused by a backfire.
> >>
> >> Just my thoughts...
> >>
> >>
> >> Darwin/Victoria BC/Canada
> >> '65 Cdn. Valiant Custom 100 'vert
> >> --225/A833...in a million pieces...SOLD
> >> '67 Dart GT 'vert
> >> --273/904...in "enjoying" condition
> >>
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> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Safford" 
> <hzf9vv@xxxxxxxxx>>> To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> >> Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 7:41 PM
> >> Subject: Tuning a road demon 625 cfm carb
> >>
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Am re-posting as I did this first from my cell phone and am 
> not sure
> >>> it posted properly ...
> >>>
> >>> I talked to a tech at Barry Grant about tuning my 625 cfm 
> road demon
> >>> on my poly 318. I get black smoke whenever I floor it. He 
> asked me
> >>> three things - timing at idle, vacuum at idle and cam 
> duration at .050
> >>>
> >>> Timing is 12 degrees btdc, vacuum was around 14 and my 
> Daytona cam
> >>> has 218 at 50.
> >>>
> >>> He suggested I switch to a 4-hole spacer rather than the 
> open one I'm
> >>> currently using, and also thought I should move the timing 
> to 14 or
> >>> 15. He also wondered if I had good hot spark. Not sure how 
> to check
> >>> that.
> >>>
> >>> I asked about the power valve and he said it probably isn't even
> >>> opening as the vacuum would have to drop below 6.5 for that 
> to happen.
> >>>
> >>> I have power steering that uses vacuum as well as a pcv 
> valve - do
> >>> those use up too much of the available vacuum?
> >>>
> >>> I don't want to risk damaging my engine - are any of his 
> suggestions>>> potential problems?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks as always,
> >>> Brian Safford
> >>> 62 Dart / Poly 318
> >>>
> >>>
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