Re: sending unit

[William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>]

I would at least like to drive it more than a mile at a time!!!!

--- On Thu, 8/19/10, Dennis J. <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> From: Dennis J. <djohn14296@xxxxxxxxx>
> Subject: Re: sending unit
> To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 6:53 AM
> Sounds like a typical mopar day to
> me, don't worry it gets better......
> DJ
> 
> 
> --- On Thu, 8/19/10, William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: William Harrison <bbjt3@xxxxxxxxx>
> > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 4:21 AM
> > Took the tank out again and removed
> > the sending unit.
> > I attached a jumper wire to the hot wire and a ground
> wire
> > from the unit to the frame close to the ignition
> switch.
> > Turned the key on and lifted the
> float....Nothing......But,
> > noticed a slight movement when the float was down so
> I
> > reversed the position of the rheostat and lifted the
> float
> > and got movement of my gas gauge.
> > Put it all back together and re=installed the tank
> and
> > attached the ground strap to the frame, turned the key
> on
> > and.......not working, said fuck it and started the
> car and
> > did some timing and idle adjustments and took the car
> out on
> > the road.....
> > Ran hot and the transmission  isn't shifting
> > right.....Said fuck it again and parked it....Then
> found a
> > transmission fluid drip right under the area of the
> > transmission that indicates the front seal is
> > leaking......So now the lack of a working fuel gauge
> is the
> > least of my worries.
> > Gonna set the car on jack stands and remove the tranny
> and
> > replace the front seal and while it is out I am going
> to put
> > the stock converter back in and get the 10 inch high
> stall
> > converter rebuilt and put it on the 496 stroker
> motor.
> > Later
> > Bill Harrison
> > 65 Coronet 2 dr post
> > 
> > --- On Wed, 8/18/10, Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > wrote:
> > 
> > > From: Ollie <satellite1965@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 9:53 PM
> > > 
> > > I have been reading every E mail regarding the
> fuel
> > gauges.
> > > I have a fuel gauge problem in MS Cruiser.
> > > I have a stock fuel sender unit that I bought
> from
> > Kramer.
> > > The better, more expensive,  made in USA one. So
> I
> > was
> > > told
> > > I am using autometer gauges....straight 12V
> > > When I bought the sending unit Cindy told me to
> use
> > the
> > > 80-100 gauge. That is a GM gauge. (please correct
> me
> > if I am
> > > wrong on the ohms) I did ask the ohms of the
> sending
> > unit as
> > > I knew I was going to use autometer not stock.
> > > I fill the tank full. Gauge goes to full. Does
> not
> > move off
> > > full till you are down to 5 gallons in the tank.
> > Drops
> > > rapidly at 8-10 mpg. At 1/8 tank you are walking.
> I
> > will not
> > > run out of gas.
> > > About a year ago I started a discussion on the
> ohms
> > reading
> > > of our senders. The 4/74 is correct. I beleive
> this
> > after
> > > reasearch. Light goes off, wrong gauge!! I bought
> a
> > Chrysler
> > > ohm gauge from Autometer. Swapped gauges. NOTHING
> !!
> > Went
> > > back to old relayable...if the gauge reads 1/2
> STOP
> > > IMMEDIATELY>>BUY FUEL !!
> > > I have tried grounding, nothing more that holding
> up a
> > wire
> > > while wife operates key and reports results.
> Nothing
> > ,, but
> > > maybe not a good ground?
> > > Gary H made a post regarding the ground strap. I
> > looked in
> > > my shop manual no info. I never had one on MS
> Cruiser.
> > Now
> > > it has been explained better.
> > > Someone also made a post regarding the contact on
> the
> > coil
> > > of the sending unit..need to check this.
> > > So Bill I do suffer your pain too! If it makes
> you
> > feel
> > > better, no gauge on the Petty Car, just open the
> 8 gal
> > fuel
> > > cell and look. My Rambler has a note pad on the
> rear
> > view
> > > mirror instead of fuzzie dice, fill up every 200
> > miles.
> > > Ain't are old cars FUN? As my buddy Rich says
> "Having
> > Fun
> > > Yet?"
> > > Ollie
> > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herb" <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > Sent: Wednesday, August 18, 2010 3:14 PM
> > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Ya the ring, not reliable! Your car had a ground
> strap
> > made
> > > of heavy tin
> > > that snapped over the fuel line and the nipple on
> the
> > > sender bridging the
> > > rubber hose thus the ground from the factory.  A
> lot
> > > of people removed them
> > > not realizing what they are or they just
> biodegraded
> > and
> > > fell off.  You may
> > > get lucky and get a temporary ground through the
> > straps and
> > > the locking ring
> > > but the slightest corrosion will cancel that out,
> much
> > like
> > > on a dirty
> > > battery terminal.  It is called electrolytic
> > corrosion
> > > caused by two
> > > dissimilar metals in contact with each other. 
> The
> > > corrosion is a good
> > > insulator!  Look at it like the metals don't
> like
> > each
> > > other and build up a
> > > barrier so they don't have to touch each other! 
> I
> > > believe Gary H had a link
> > > to the re-pop of the factory ground bridge on
> here not
> > long
> > > ago if you want
> > > to go that route.  For now what I would do (It
> ant
> > > pretty but) is get two
> > > hose clamps and a eyelet and a long piece of wire
> that
> > need
> > > not be insulated
> > >  Hose clamp the wire to the nipple between the
> > hose and
> > > base of the sender,
> > > jump over the hose to the fuel line clean it up
> and
> > hose
> > > clamp the wire to
> > > the fuel line.  That should work as a ground
> just
> > fine
> > > but, grounding it to
> > > the frame also will be even better.  That will
> give
> > > you a three point ground
> > > if your with me!  Now if you have a flashing
> test
> > > light at the wire in the
> > > back and a good connection to your sender I bet
> your
> > gauge
> > > will work!  Let
> > > me know how this works.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >            
> 
> > 
> > > Herb
> > > 
> > > 1956 Plymouth Belvedere 361
> > > 1959 Coronet 326 Poly
> > > 1961 Belvedere Custom Suburban 318 Poly
> > > 1962 Dodge Dart 225 Slant Six
> > > 1963 Fury 2D/HT 6.1L
> > > 1963 Sport Fury Convertible 361
> > > 1999 Durango SLT 5.9L
> > > 2008 SRT-8 Magnum 6.1L
> > > St. Louis, MO.
> > > 
> > > http://1962to1965mopar.ornocar.com/mmo42009.html
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > >                
> > >               GOD Drives
> > > a Plymouth
> > > 
> > > ".... GOD, in his FURY, drove them forth from
> > Eden...."
> > > 
> > > Genesis 3:23
> > > 
> > > 
> > > -------Original Message-------
> > > 
> > > From: William Harrison
> > > Date: 8/18/2010 9:29:03 AM
> > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > > 
> > > Herb
> > > The unit is supposed to be grounded by the
> locking
> > ring but
> > > it could be that
> > > it is not working.
> > > I just now remembered that after I had the
> underside
> > of the
> > > car sand blasted
> > > I then painted it with a por 15 type of paint and
> I
> > also
> > > lined the top of
> > > the tank area with rubber, so it could be that I
> don't
> > have
> > > a ground....Doh.
> > > 
> > > I will attach a separate ground wire today.
> > > Thanks
> > > Bill
> > > - On Wed, 8/18/10, Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > wrote:
> > > 
> > > > From: Herb <zephyr9900@xxxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Subject: Re: sending unit
> > > > To: "1962 to 1965 Mopars" <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx>
> > > > Date: Wednesday, August 18, 2010, 10:12 AM
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Are you grounding the sender to the fuel
> line or
> > > frame, or
> > > > both?  I'm
> > > > talking grounding the Sender it's self not
> the
> > tank!
> > > > The sender is usually
> > > > insulated by the O ring  I belive you said
> you
> > > had a
> > > > flashing light when
> > > > testing at the sender wire at the back?
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > -------Original Message-------
> > > > 
> > > > From: William Harrison
> > > > Date: 8/18/2010 8:40:17 AM
> > > > To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxx
> > > > Subject: sending unit
> > > > 
> > > > I am to the point that I am really ready to
> take
> > a BFH
> > > to
> > > > my 65 Coronet.
> > > > I replaced the gas tank sending unit and
> the
> > gauge
> > > and
> > > > still no reading.
> > > > It just can't be 2 new sending units in a
> row
> > can
> > > it??
> > > > Thoughts???
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Bill Harrison
> > > > 
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> to
> > only one
> > > person -- directly to that person.  I.e., send
> > > parts/car transactions and negotiations as well
> as
> > other
> > > personal messages only to the intended recipient,
> not
> > to the
> > > Clubhouse public address. This practice will
> protect
> > your
> > > privacy, reduce the total volume of mail and fine
> tune
> > the
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> > > 
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