Re: zddp

I find this thread very interesting. I bought a 72 Charger Rallye 440 auto from the original owner with over 100 thousand miles on it. He took care of his oil changes when he should. He used Valvoline.

Well ya know I am the kinda guy that has to take engines apart and make sure clearances are good and what bearings look like and blah blah.

Well I decided to rebuild the engine and hop it up a little. I put over a 100 thousand miles on that care running Valvoline 20-50 before I did a general tear down on the engine cause I was gonna give it to a relative......engine looked as clean and almost as non worn as the day I built it......lifters and cam still looked almost new, of course it was a hydraulic, not a solid lifter engine. I just re gasketed it, painted it, installed it and let it go. Wish I still had that one.....was fun to drive.

Just my 2 cents

On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:27 AM, Joseph Bitterman <furyrestored@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

i have been using rotella diesel oil for 3 years now in all 3 of my hotrods with no other additives and have had no problems with cam lobes it has additives that regular gas engine oils no longer carry and has been my choice for diesels for 30 plus years,,

From: Donnie Schanz Jr <dcs426@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 5:42 PM
Subject: Re: zddp

The ZDDP was formulated after the govt took it out of the oil. Most cars runs today run roller valve trains so it is not that important to them. Sure your car has 110,000 on it, but ALL the oil run thru it for the first 100,000 had the right blend of chemicals in it. STP oil treatment has some ZDDP in it. Comp cams break in lube does too. The point is, A FLAT TAPPET cam NEEDS this stuff EVERYDAY. Its the friction barrier that is now missing. New roller cam engines dont have friction on the camshaft. Hell, my 409 has a roller cam in it and I have oil restrictors in the back of the block so the heads get very little oil. Roller set-ups dont need it. Y ou guys need to understand that it is not up to the oil companies if they put the ZDDP in their oil, its up the Uncle Sam!!! If they are saying they it is in there, its probably such a small amount, that I am not risking it. ZDDP was formulated by Richard Clark and Dennis Kirban, who are turbo Buick guys. It is needed for the bearings in the turbos due to the fact they spin 30,000 rpms. You can get ZDDP on ebay or direct from Kirbans performance. This thread should be about where to get it, not if you need it.

http://www.kirbanperformance.com/products/20/ZDDPlus+OIL+ADDITIVE.html

Thanks
Donnie

----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary H." <62to65mopar@xxxxxxxxxxx>
To: <1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 3:53 PM
Subject: Re: zddp

Kendall GT Hi Performance and Valvoline Racing Oil were the two mentioned. AutoZone sells the Valvoline.

Thanks,
Gary H.

> -------Original Message------- Time for me to change oil in the '63 too. Can't bring myself to run
> castrol. I know we've beaten this subject to death, but one more
> time, is there an oil out there with the right additives? Or,
> what/where do we find the additive. Product name?
> Thanx
>

> Doug,
> '63 Sport Fury 'vert

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