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I suppose I've narrowed it down a bit....today I
disconnected the battery cables from the battery: and using jumper cables again
hooked a new battery into the circuit. Volt meter is slightly under 12 volts at
this point and still nary a click or whine from the starter at the turn of the
key. Leaving the key in the off position, I used a screwdriver across the
terminals of the relay and the motor did crank over, slowly but the starter
worked. At this point I changed from the "new" battery to a now fully charged
booster pack and jumpered the relay terminals again which spun it pretty
well, key still in the off position. Finally, I pumped the gas one time,
turned the key on, jumped across the relay terminals and it fired up as it
normally does. I got it back in the shop to fix whatever happens to be the
culprit at least. I can rule out the starter I suppose, and I think the
battery can be checked for a good/notgood condition, but does this say anything
about the relay being suspect or not? I also noticed that of the six caps on the
battery, one showed some chalky-like residue around it; as if some acid had
puked past the seal on that cell. Whatever it is can't be too serious,
(and hopefully not too expensive to fix). Does this add any info as to what the
problem truly is, to those more knowledgeable than myself ? Between the
exhaust leak, the transmission leak, and the laughable mpg, I wonder why we fool
with these things sooo much...then I remembered that I had just started a dead
car by leaning over a fender and jumping terminals with a screwdriver....not
gonna happen in a Prius.
Always Mopar,
John Hammond
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Sent: Saturday, November 17, 2012 6:41
PM
Subject: Re: '64 440 Wagon won't
start-was fine yesterday after several test drives....
I've had a similar problem on my 63 SF. In my case it was
a loose connection at the starter. Be sure to check that as well
Paul L. On Friday, November 16, 2012 11:28:22 PM UTC-6, John
Hammond wrote:
I got the '64 440 powered 330 out yesterday and
did a few test runs. 727 has a nagging drip so I topped off the fluid and
went for a short drive. Nothing really out of the ordinary: although
recent night drives seem to tax the electrical so bad it acts as if the
ignition is going away. During this, the volt meter, (ammeter long since
removed from harness), shows 12+ volts at 55mph or above. All the lights are
bright and functioning correctly too. Back to the story, wagon starts
at the turn of the key repetedly five or six times, no problem. This
afternoon turn the key and not so much as a whine or even a click, volt
meter shows 10 volts. So battery must be low, I thought; booster pack
hooked up. Volt meter shows 12 volts, again nothing. Finally two
batteries from booster cables, same result...dead, dead, dead. Again, no
matter the voltage shown on the gauge, 10, 12+, or 14+ everything works
except the starter. I don't understand what could have just quit
overnight when all was well 24 hours ago. Both the starter and the
alternator are new Powermaster parts, the VR is the electronic replacement,
the additional charging wire suggested by Powermaster was run, the ignition
is the Summit MoparPerf. type electronic conversion, all of these parts have
about 1200 miles total on them. The starter relay, is original. The battery
is old, and needing replacement I know-but I doubt that being the problem
considering the juice poured at it today. I don't really know where to
start on this. I thought I had all the bases covered. Anybody that can
help out on this would be most appreciated... thanks in advance to any and
all who respond.
Always Mopar,
John
Hammond
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