RE: rare 383?

YA IVE DROOLED OVER YOUR GEN 3 INSTALL…. ALWAYS FIGURED IT WOULD RALLY MOTIVATE THE CAR..

JASON

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herb
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 8:10 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars
Subject: RE: rare 383?

A Gen III would be a breeze to install, other than engine mounts a bolt-in project. If you update the tranny also you will have to modify the tunnel. Had a 63 Dart with a A 318 installed, ran circles around Muskrats & Camaroos! I fabricated a set of headers for mine and if the truth be known probably did not run any better than the manifolds. A lot of work little gain but it had headers, the manifolds were not that bad really!.

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From: Jason Rhoades

Date: 04/30/13 06:39:46

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: RE: rare 383?

I ALSO FIND THAT STATEMENT INTERESTING. AS I HAVE A SO CALLED “WIDE BLOCK 318 “ IN MY VALIANT 1967. FITS FINE. SORTA…. HEADERS ARE ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD SO I HAVE NOT YET. BUT WHAT A COMBINATION. SO MUCH TORQUE IT’S A BLAST TO DRIVE. PLUGS ARE EASY TO CHANGE . NOW A HEMI WOULD BE A REAL CHALLENGE TO STUFF IN THERE!!! BUT I HEAR THEY ARE BIGGER THAN MY POLY. HMMMM ME LIKES A CHALLENGE. IF I ONLY HAD A HEMI……

JASON

From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Herb
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2013 7:22 AM
To: 1962to1965mopars
Subject: Re: rare 383?

I am not positive of the inspiration, but the 180 # came in-fact from the amount that were built by the factory, I believe they also made 300 or so kits for dealers to convert inventory 4BBL equipped 273 Dart GTs to Charger specks. That is why you will see one every once in a while with a slant six installed, or a 2bbl 273 the Dealers did what they wanted.. Over the years I think I have seen at least one Valiant that was converted with the kits. Or an early owner had a weird sense of humor. Also it is rumored a couple of Barracudas were done, but that makes no sense because Plymouth had the Formula S packages that were superior to the Dart Charger kit. Unless a multi labeled dealer had a couple of unsold cars to get rid of off the lot?

"There was absolutely no room for a B block engine in there." Well, maybe not so true, remember the 67 to 69 factory Big Block A Bodies that also included the Hurst installed HEMI. In 1966 Grand Spaulding Dodge in Chicago ignored the factorys statement of no room for a big block in an a body and did it. They were so popular and GSD was so backlogged, for 67 the factory started producing them using the GSD cars as the prototype.

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From: Bill Watson

Date: 4/30/2013 12:08:13 AM

To: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Subject: Re: rare 383?

And the 1965 Dart Charger was NOT a factory offering, but a California dealer inspired package. The Charger nameplates appear to be something designed by someone not connected with auto styling. Look more like a paperweight than nameplate. Some models also had stripes on the hood and trunk. All other equipment on the car was straight off the options list, including the 273-cid V8.

Chrysler had problems fitting the poly 318 in the engine bay on the A body engine bay. There was absolutely no room for a B block engine in there.

Also do not know where the 180 number came from. As it was a dealer package there was no separate sales code for it The only thing I have heard about production is that they ordered more nameplates than they had car orders.

Bill

Toronto, ON

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