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Re: 413 Value?



Tony,
 
In my opinion, if you want to run something “different” and have the nostalgia of a 413 in a vehicle that could have had one installed from the factory, and the price is right, then it is reasonable to have interest in it for your ‘62 Dart.  However, if they want a “premium” price, which is what I gather from all the details in the write-up/AD, then I would think twice as more power can be had at less expensive with ubiquitous parts for a 440 engine. 
You already have a nostalgic engine with your Poly 318, which in my opinion is a far more visual appeal and interest when you lift the hood (bonnet for all our friends “down under”) but if you want nostalgia with inherently more power then consider the 413 and count the cost of the added driveline costs including but not limited to another transmission/driveshaft/motor mounts/bracketry...
 
Gary Pavlovich
 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: 413 Value?
 
Hi Guys,

This post really interests me as I am looking at a sale down here in the Southern hemisphere and would like your thoughts on the following items for sale:

2x Complete runner Chrysler 413 V8 Engine, same as a 440 just a smaller bore,here is some guff I found on the net.

Auction is per unit casting numbers2205697-3 and -1

The 413 V8 was first introduced in 1959 and became the first Chrysler engine that got a factory rating of 350 horsepower and higher. The Chrysler 413 definitely made some waves in its first year of production when it was equipped with 2 four barrel carburetors for use in the Chrysler 300 and put out 380 horsepower. This amount of horsepower had still not been achieved by GM at this point in their factory automobiles although Ford did go far past these performance marks with their new 430 V8.

One interesting note about the 413 is that in 1962 Chrysler released a special version of this engine called the Max Wedge. The Max Wedge 413 consisted of two ram air intake ducts that fed into 2 four barrel carburetors that were offset from one another. The intake manifolds on the engine were quite unusual looking and favored more of a waffle making device for the kitchen that something that would go on a car. In the end however an impressive 420 horsepower was produced which helped gain the 413 Max Wedge a lot of respect. For more information take some time to visit a great site that is dedicated to Max Wedge Engines.

The 413 enjoyed lots of use in Chrysler, Plymouth and Dodge automobiles until it was phased out by the end of 1965. It continued to see use in Chrysler mid-size and large trucks until the end of 1972.

Cheers,

Tony
1962 Dodge Phoenix (440 Dart fitted with a 318 Poly)


On Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:01:20 AM UTC+10, Dennis C. wrote:
I an in Nebraska for a family reunion, came from San Diego.

I was talking to a guy who said in Kansas he saw a number of 413
industerial engines off of irrigation pumps sell for $800 to $900 at a
consignment auction.

They were bought by a machine shop.

Any idea why they seemed to bring a good price?  With the exception of
the block and crank I don't know what would be of any value except in
an industerial application.

Growing up in the area we had a grinder with a 413 running on propane,
great running engine but as I remember it has sodium filled valves
hard surfaced for the propane application.

Thanks
Dennis C.
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