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If they are going to 15% ethanol as you say, it is not 85% ethanol. That is what doesn’t make sense to me. Am I just a little slow or what? It cant be both. From: 1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx [mailto:1962to1965mopars@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
On Behalf Of Richard Kinsley Yes, E-85 is 85% ethanol not 15%. There is a push now to change the 10% usual dose of ethanol to 15% and the car companies have complained heartily about it. I have a flex-fuel, E-85, Chrysler van and it
can run on anything out there. I like the E-85 in the winter but not in the summer or on a trip. The mileage is about 20% less so it's not cheaper to run unless the fuel is at least 20% cheaper. I think it has more power with the E-85. I don't believe it's
any help with the ethanol blends. I use the ethanol blends in my daily driver but avoid it at all costs in my '64. Rich Kinsley '64 Dodge Polara 4dr LeRoar 324 poly w/goodies On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:58 AM, Bill Paxton <wmp4@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: I think its 15% ethanol From:
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On Behalf Of dcdriver@xxxxxxx Back in the late 80's I could leave my buggies sit all winter with no problems running NON-blended fuels with no problems.I
myself am not a fan of E-anything.Nowdays you better darn well load up anything with Sta-bil in the fall if you want it to start in the spring.Almost all stations in Kansas are running octanes from 87-91 unless you stop at a BP.The Quick shops and the like
are about the only places you can find E-10.I have never had any problems with it,I just don't care for it and stick to non-blended fuels.My 96 INDY-RAM has a perf. computer in it and requires 92 octane but gets by with 91 just fine.Also correct me if I am
wrong but isn't E-85,85%methinol???? Jim -----Original Message----- Well, we’re told up here that our fuel has a shelf life of 30-60 days, as well. However, I never have
a problem with “old” fuel sitting in any cars over the winter (typically 5 months), or gerry cans that sit around slowly being used for lawn mowers, etc, all summer and some into the next. I have a friend that works at a wrecking yard, and keeps all but the
most “orange” gas out of the cars that come in. Some is clearly old, the smell alone tells you that. Yet he runs it in his ’72 Nova sporting a mild SBC (actually, an old engine of mine). No problems, and that car is quick. Because of that, I let him dump ~1/2
tank of that stuff in my ’06 Colorado. Within minutes, the check engine light was on (evap recirc valve), and the truck has a slightly less smooth idle. It also tends to act a little fun on ½ warm restarts. I don’t know if that was all a result of that wrecking
yard fuel (even though he filters the stuff real good), but I’m never going to run it again, in anything, just in case. Even if it is free. Interesting about the corrosion part. I’m assuming that refers to corroding aluminium. Not really sure
that ethyl alcohol is corrosive to aluminium. But, what if it is to the cheap recycled stuff? Especially the stuff coming out of China? My father’s ’67 Newport had the carb done on it a couple years back. No signs of damage to it. It needed to be rebuilt because
he never drives the damned thing. I took it out for a day right after the carb was done, and I think he may have driven it once himself right after that. The car basically sits, with me getting around to running it in the driveway every once in a while. So
the carb packed it in from basically drying out. But again, it’s been subjected to E10 for many miles (it was mine prior, and I drove that car everywhere, and drove it hard). Right now, I have it sitting in the yard, as well as a ’57 Nash Metropolitan, ’62 Nash Metropolitan,
’66 Chevy Biscayne, and my ’62 Dart. All doing perfectly fine on E10/blended fuels up here. The Newport sees little driving, and the Biscayne sees some. The Mets aren’t being driven right now, but had been basically daily drivers from spring until snowfall.
My Dart doesn’t get as many miles as I would like to be able to drive it, but it certainly gets it’s share. None have seen the issues you guys talk about. So now I’m somewhat concerned. I had plans to run the length of Route 66 with the Dart once the new
mill was in it. Am I going to have issues? Just thinking, none of the local guys that make the run down to St. Paul for the Back to the Fifties show there have ever mentioned anything about having fuel issues. Now, I know some of them are filling as soon as
the cross the border into North Dakota to save the fuel taxes, and that gas actually ships out of Canada. But most of those guys are lucky if they only have to refuel once on the trip. That tank, as well as the tank leaving St. Paul, and the one top-up between
St. Paul and the border should be enough to indicate a problem, I would think…. Interestingly enough, I was just talking to my father about this, as he’s a veteran of E10/blended fuels
as well. He just informed me that when in the U.S., he has found that he gets slightly higher MPG on non-blended fuel down there with his ’07 HHR running the 2.2. Yet me, with my ’06 HHR and the 2.4, I get the same MPG with whatever I stick in it. Perhaps
because his is working harder and/or revs slightly higher on the highway? I don’t know…. My ’65 Valiant didn’t care. But I’m wondering if the fuel down there has changed since then? Damn, I
hope that’s not going to be an issue. I do plan on making a run to the East coast of Canada and back, and hoping to also make a run to Alaska. I guess I’ll know more once those trips are done… -Ray From:
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On Behalf Of Jason Rhoades RAY I LIVE IN INDIANA AND HAVE TO AGREE WHOLE HARTEDLY. I THINK THERE IS SOME DIRTY POOL BEING PLAYED ON US. THE
FUEL DOWN HERE AS YOU PUT IT IS VERY CORROSIVE!! AND WONT KEEP MORE THAN A MONTH OR 2 AT BEST.. MY SNOWMOBILES ARE A SOB TO START AND THE LEST WE EVEN DISCUSS THE CHAINSAWS AND WEED EATER. MY GOODNES YOU CANT KEEP FUEL LINES ON THEM OR START THEM RELIABLY.
ALCAHOL FREE GAS DOES RUN BETTER THAN THE SWILL WE GET SHOVED AT US. BUT… GET THIS …. MY 4 STROKE YAMAHA 426 DIRT BIKE LOVES 93 OCTANE BLENDED FUEL. I PUT RACE GAS IN IT AND COULD NOT KEEP IT RUNNING.. WHAT ARE THE ODDS.. ANYWAY WE HAVE EXPERIENCED MASSIVE
CORROSION OF THE GAS SYSTEM INCLUDING THE CARB BOWLS BEING CORODED TO THE POINT OF HAVING TO REPLACE THE CARB. I WAS SHOCKED!! SOMETHING IS BEING PUT INTO THE FUEL OR SOMETHING, I THINK TO CAUSE THIS. ( ON PURPOSE I THINK).
WELL JUST MY RAMBLINGS
JASON --
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