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Re: Barracuda VIN



Because thats what the factory stamped there before they did VINs.
 
Darwin
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN

Why would a sales order number be on the rad support?

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On Mar 25, 2017, at 7:49 PM, 65 <65val@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

David...you need to read all the other posts in this thread. The number posted is an SO (sales order) number, and cannot be connected to a Vin without a broadcast sheet, which Bob doesn't have, so it looks like a state-issued VIN is in his future.
 
Darwin
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 4:05 PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN

Does not refer to any ref. I have for vin numbers or part number

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On Mar 25, 2017, at 6:14 PM, Bob Faunce <bobsbelvedere@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

On top, drivers side.

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Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN

is that number on the rad support??


From: "65" <65val@xxxxxxxxx>
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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 1:03:32 PM
Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN

Robert...like I mentioned in previous messages, that is the SO (Sales Order) number, and will not decode to anything without the cars build sheet. If you don't have the build sheet, you are SOL. I would try for a state-issued VIN and carry on.

Darwin

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Sent: Saturday, March 25, 2017 7:29 AM

Subject: Re: Barracuda VIN

Hi - after doing some paint removal I uncovered the 10 digit number shown in the pic below. It does not appear to decode to anything unless I am using the wrong on-line decoder. The number is 5211330165.  Any thoughts?

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On Mar 25, 2017, at 8:08 AM, Bill Parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Yes once something happens with a VIN plate there's no way to get it completely fixed like original which is really harsh when it's a collector car.  


On Mar 25, 2017, at 7:47 AM, Robert Faunce <bobsbelvedere@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Bill - no title but  the MAINE DMV will issue a state VIN now that I have demonstrated my efforts to deal with the problem. I am about ready to crash the legal case. It has cost me thousands so far and to go all the way to court would leave me with little after attorney fees. I was hoping to settle but that is not going to happen. Lousy situation.

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On Mar 24, 2017, at 11:25 PM, Bill Parker <hemirr@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The way I would handle this if it were my car, in addition to going after the restoration contractor, is to seek a court order to have your local DMV issue a VIN to the car as a 65. You are not going to be able to (legally anyway) make a new VIN plate with the original factory VIN on it, no state allows that AFAIK, but you can get a state issued VIN and have the correct year associated to it with a court order. Each state has its own specific exact procedure for this and its own forms. I've successfully gotten court orders for two vehicles to get them titled to me when there was no way to do it using any Indiana BMV procedures. You could make an exhibit of photos for the court of different years of Barracudas and comparing to photos of your own car. Obvious differences between 65 and 66 not so obvious between 65 and 64 of course but there are things like the pushbutton shift v the floor shift.  The information from the Chrysler Historical would be a bonus proof and your car does have a SON on it. They do require a copy of title and I don't recall if you said you have a title with the original VIN. Good luck I know it isn't quick or easy. 


On Mar 23, 2017, at 10:35 PM, Bob Faunce <bobsbelvedere@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Bill - the car is definitely a 65 but the VIN plate is a 66. This has been a nightmare.  I can't legally drive it or sell it and the value has plummeted. Eventually the state may issue its own VIN to mist the car legal but that will again significantly affect value. The restorer obviously switched VIN plates for whatever reason (stolen car, junked, theft maybe) but the law in Maine where I live and NH where I bought it are not straightforward on this type of fraud.

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On Mar 23, 2017, at 8:02 PM, jhanlon1903 . <jhanlon1903@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

i dont think you will find any letters only numbers, look on the back side, eng. side of the rad. support. I was told numbers on top of the rad. support are california plant only.

On Thu, Mar 23, 2017 at 7:06 PM, 65 <65val@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

Bob....should look something like this....under the anti-freeze decal, drivers' side of rad support...

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Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 1:54 PM

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Bill - I'm trying to visualize how to view the number with a mirror and exactly where the number is located on the support. I found what appears to be a part number half way down the support on the drivers side (2 letters and 3 digits) Thanks

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On Mar 23, 2017, at 3:44 PM, Bill Watson <chrycoman@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:

The SON (Shipping Order Number) should be on the body tag attached to the driver's side inner fender.   It was stamped onto the top of the radiator support along with the digits for the assembly plant and model year added to the beginning of the sequence.  So, basically you would have the assembly plant, model year, scheduled built date and sequence number.  The build record from Chrysler Historical would have both the VIN and the SON, tying both together, 

The number would be covered by the sticker for the antifreeze but it can be viewed using a mirror to see the under side of the radiator support,

This only applies to American-built A body cars.  Canadian-built cars had no SON attached to the car or the body tag.

Bill

Vancouver, BC

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