RE: How many hours to install sway bar?

[<glpavlovich@xxxxxxx>]

Congratulations on your success!  
To answer your question on the "know-it-all" ...yes, Gary H. nailed it with his comments.
It is much like the guy who says "I could have done it better/cheaper" after you tell your install story...hot air!
Gary P.


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The main point is "The car handles way better than it did in 1965." So congratulations on a successful upgrade!

The "time" issue is an apples to oranges comparison. You note "we obsessed over measuring and double-triple- quadruple checking to make sure we got the holes in the right place." A mechanic that does stuff like this all day would not spend that much time. (Not that a mistake could not be made by that mechanic!) As the carpenters say: "measure twice, cut once."

Plus some mechanics are not that fussy and underestimate the time required working on older vehicles (rust, old undercoating etc.) The critic is  "An independent mechanic (who has never worked on a sixties Mopar...) -- so that is a clue that he is not making a factual time estimate. 

And, as noted, the number of breaks  you take (beer or otherwise!) is up to you, not the shop boss!

So whatever number of hours it took you to complete the installation was the proper number. 

My 2 cents, :)

Thanks,
Gary H. 

>  -------Original Message-------
>  From: ddavids
>  
>  We recently installed a Hotchkis rear sway bar on a 65 barracuda. It  
> took two of us 2 1/2 hours to install, so 5 labor hours total. The  
> installation required drilling holes in the rear frame rails that arch  
> over the rear axle. Spacers are used between the metal sides of the  
> boxed frame to keep it from collapsing when the through bolts are  
> tightened.
>  
>  Anyway, we obsessed over measuring and double-triple-quadruple  
> checking to make sure we got the holes in the right place. It turned  
> out great, and we nailed it. An independent mechanic (who has never  
> worked on a sixties Mopar, much less this particular installation) has  
> been mouthing off that it shouldn't have taken us this long. We also  
> had to remove undercoating so the fender washers would fit right.
>  
>  I think the know-it-all mechanic is misguided and has no clue what's  
> involved to do this upgrade (and many other jobs) on cars that are  
> over a half century old. What do you guys think? By the way, we also  
> installed a front sway bar and better shocks all around. The car  
> handles way better than it did in 1965. --
>  --
> 

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