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Location: Parts Unknown | Anyone have a decent photo showing the roof rack on a 55-56 Dodge-Plymouth wagon ? I have located one, but it is not on a car and does not look right to me. A 55-56 DeSoto-Chrysler unit should look the same judging by the numbers in the parts book (only the cross bars are longer). Any help is appreciated.
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Shoot, Doc. I'd leave the Sierra as she sits. Looks a lot cleaner without the rack, IMO. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I guess I am of the school that does not see wagons as slick or clean, but rather the opposite .... battleship cruisers taking the scout troop to Yellowstone. How am I going to get all those scout packs tied on the roof without a roof rack ?
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Location: Hell's Outhouse - a.k.a. Buckeye, Arizona | Doctor DeSoto - 2007-12-24 12:27 PM
I guess I am of the school that does not see wagons as slick or clean, but rather the opposite .... battleship cruisers taking the scout troop to Yellowstone. How am I going to get all those scout packs tied on the roof without a roof rack ?
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Location: Scotland | here's one
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Location: Parts Unknown | Thanks, Mark. That is about how good my pix are for detail. I can get the general idea, but not enough for hard details. That is a nice looking car. Looks to be pink and charcoal. They even ante'd up for the bumper accessory group. Just add wires and that is MY idea of a full fledged battle-ready wagon !!!!
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Location: Scotland | Brent,here's another one on a Plymouth though.
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Location: Parts Unknown | Thanks again. The rack offered to me is obviously NOT one of these, but rather a one-piece "ring" anchored on the four corners by similar stanchions. Seems to me this type was used in the 1950 era ? Man, I gotta find me a set up for our car !
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Location: new york | Heres 2 of my old wagons no roof racks ,thought they looked good that way ,I think the factory roof racks had little red tail lights at the rear of the racks, any way your choise HAPPY MOTORING!
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Location: Akron, Ohio | HeyDoc,
I have one that is similar to Vedette's shown in the previous reply. I can get you pictures of the rack but it is off a 1958 Desoto wagon. Do you know if the 55-56 wagons used the same roof rack?
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Location: Pau, S-W France | I remember a '56 Plymouth Sport Suburban with the same roof rack than the one of "vedette" : there were some "bullet shape" red light at each end. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Brent, the lateral roof curvature looks to be the primary concern.
Your roof rack probably needs to be re-chromed (unless you REALLY scored, on it!), so the o.a. length looks like it can be
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Did Dodge offer an optional roof rack in '56? It didn't, in 1957-1959, iirc.
I am very PRO-roof rack, on wagons!
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Location: Parts Unknown | darbydun - 2008-01-05 9:59 AM
HeyDoc,
I have one that is similar to Vedette's shown in the previous reply. I can get you pictures of the rack but it is off a 1958 Desoto wagon. Do you know if the 55-56 wagons used the same roof rack?
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It looks like the part numbers are the same for the stanchions. The rails show a different number. I will have to figure out the rub bars.
Sure ! I'd love to see pix. Hit me backchannel cgico@comcast.net
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Location: Parts Unknown | d500neil - 2008-01-05 2:14 PM
Did Dodge offer an optional roof rack in '56? It didn't, in 1957-1959, iirc.
I am very PRO-roof rack, on wagons!
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I am with you on that. Maximize that "utilitarian" look !
The 55-58 parts book lists all the roof rack parts for 55-58 Dodge as well as the other lines. I do not keep a 59 parts book, so you are on your own on that one. But I have seen 59 Dodges with racks, so ..... ?
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Location: Akron, Ohio | I was going through some pictures and found ones of the roof rack from the 1959 Desoto wagon in the Chrysler museum. That is one nice car.
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Location: Akron, Ohio | I have Desoto on the brain tonight. It is a 1959 Chrysler New Yorker. |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Yup ! That's the ticket.
I would prefer to find a 55-56 Dodge-Plymouth, as it is fit to size. But it looks to me as if "they" just made the thing a little bigger for the Chryslers and DeSotos, and adopted the big one across the board from 57 on.
So, ... now to find one !
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I would like to take up the roof rack subject again.
We all know that mamopar had its own roofrack but but does anybody know the secrets about it...
I'm interested, if the roof rack on FL-Cars came direkt from the factory and this cars get their rack straight on its assembly line.
But this means, the first customer had to order this, but I could not find any note on "RossRoys Standard and Optional List on 57 DeSoto".
Or is a an "Accessory Group"? There must be a note on the IBM Card, too - but I could not read the text on mine. Somebody has a readable IBM Card ?
And also on interest is, are this roof rack on the cowl-tag as well ?
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Location: Georgetown Texas | darbydun - 2008-01-09 12:14 AM
I have Desoto on the brain tonight. It is a 1959 Chrysler New Yorker.
With Imperial hubcaps!
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | I'm interested, if the roof rack on FL-Cars came direkt from the factory and this cars get their rack straight on its assembly line.
But this means, the first customer had to order this, but I could not find any note on "RossRoys Standard and Optional List on 57 DeSoto".
Or is a an "Accessory Group"? There must be a note on the IBM Card, too - but I could not read the text on mine. Somebody has a readable IBM Card ?
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The first mention for factory roof rail that I've ever seen is in 1960 model year.
It has the order code 389.
There is no stamping code on the data plates.
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Location: Ramona, CA | frwl - 2023-04-28 12:23 PM
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The first mention for factory roof rail that I've ever seen is in 1960 model year.
It has the order code 389.
There is no stamping code on the data plates.
From what I've found, the roof rack wasn't available from the factory on a 1960 Chrysler and maybe Plymouth but was on Dodge. Only dealer-installed on the Chrysler. I've yet to see a build card or sheet for one. It's not shown on the order form for Chrysler. It's shown in the Dodge brochure but not the Chrysler or Plymouth. The Dodge brochure mentions that it's a "new" option. I have seen a photo of cars being loaded at the Fenton, Missouri factory and a Dodge wagon has a rack on it but none of the Plymouths do. Another showing a lot full of new cars there shows a lot of wagons and no roof rack to be seen.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | A nice picture which I take last weekend
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