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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi everybody
I am the owner of a 1958 Chrysler Windsor 2 dr.ht. with the “Dartline” option, this option is a moulding option and was introduced in spring ( April ) 1958, my car has a 354 cui. Wedge engine, with a two-barrel Carter carburetor, a Torqueflite transmission, Power steering and Power brakes, it is in a bad shape, but i hope one day to be able to restore it.
My ideer with this thread, is that it can bee a place, where all who have information abouth these cars, have parts for them or maby even own a “Dartline” car, can share knowleg and maby help each other.
I have collected all the information i could abouth these cars, i have not been able to find any production numbers for the “Dartline” models, so i have tryed to calculate my way to some figures, but here is what i have come up with so far.
The base model:
The Chrysler Windsor was the low price model for 1958, and in ‘58 ( just this year ) it was also smaller than the rest of the models, because it rode on a Dodge chassis with a 122 inch. Weelbase.
I’m not sure if the body is the same as the big models, but maby to compensate for the length, the front is a mix of Chrysler grill and Dodge sheetmetal.
This also results in, that when you buy parts for the chassis, you can not use normal Chrysler parts, you have to buy Dodge parts.
‘58 Windsor production figures:
According to the books, there was build, 12.861 4 dr.sd
6.205 2 dr.ht.
6.254 4 dr.ht.
862 4 dr.Wag.6 p.
791 4 dr.Wag.9 p.
2 2 dr.Conv.
My car ( a 2 dr.ht.) was build in 6205 ex., normaly 2/3 of the cars was sold before New Year, so that leaves abouth 2000 ( 2 dr.ht. ) as potential “Dartline” cars, but insted of paying more for a diff. moulding, the buyers would most likely upgrade to a Saratoga, so i think that a realistic guess will be that abouth 350 2 dr.ht. “Dartline” was build.
Also according to the books, it was only HardTop models that was offert with the “Dartline” moulding, if this is right, then what about the 4 dr.sd.on the pictures here under, is it not the original moulding for this car ?
You can do the math on the other models yourself, but one thing is for sure, “Dartline’s” are pretty rare.
I look forward to a lot of inputs from other enthusiasts.
Torben
P.S. I will try to desribe the moulding later, maby take some photos.
My 2 dr.ht. ( and if i can get the pictures in, a 4 dr.sd. that mogge65 has send me )
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi All
I could not get the pictures of the 4 dr.sd. in to my first message, so i will ask mogge65 to put the pictures in soon.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Torben, if you look close you can see a 4 door sedan with Dartline moldings. your theory about "only hardtops" is demolished, sorry! 
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan
Abouth the Hard Top teori, it is not mine, that is what the books say.
I was not sure it was true, you can't trust everything you read, and now i know why i had my doubt abouth it,
i have the same ad in my collection of orig. litterature, i just forgot, "we ain't getting any younger".
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Location: bishop, ca | Torben, unfortunately most published "book" production-information on our cars is inaccurate, and your reference
to there having been only 2-dr hardtops produced is but one example of the fact that we can not, necessarily, believe
anything/everything that we read in a book.
Even the factory's published literature is not necessarily accurate, based upon actual-car(s) observations.
One good example (there are many-), is that the Ross Roy data book (published with extensive in-house corporate data/
assistance) says that the Coronets were the only models to have black painted end-of-fin 'caps', when, various
ROYAL models are seen to have them be installed on them, instead of the "bright" fin-caps, and, some Coros have been seen
to have the trunk "V" emblem, that none of the Coros should have be installed on them---that emblem does NOT signify a V/8 engine---.
So, don't believe everything that you may read in a book, or even in published-literature...so what DO you believe in?
I believe I'm gonna go get another cup of coffee.
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Location: bishop, ca | BTW, that 4-dr sedan does not appear to have the six trunk-moldings on it, that the other Dartlines appear to have on them.
So, what's the deal, on those moldings?
1) Optional equipment?
2) Not available on the sedans?
3) Owner take-off?
4) Factory screw-up?
5) bad photo angle?
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Location: Parts Unknown | Those bars are a Spring Special moulding. I do not know my Chryslers like I do the Dodge and DeSotos for 58, but if they are
anything the same, the various components of the Spring trim could be ordered separately. Also take into account possible collision
damage repair could have eliminated such a rarely seen trim when the repair dudes were just wanting to get the bent up decklid
replaced and out of their shop in 1968.
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then just leave the trim, filling in between ? Smooth, this is not. And the name ? What is "dart-like" about this ? Apparently
buyers felt similarly, as this is a rarely seen car, even in old photos ! 
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi There
Neil, i think you mis read my first input, i did not say that it only was 2 door hard top's,
i wrote that the books tells you, that i was only hard top's in general, but we know that
is not true, because we have pictures of the 4 door sedan in the orig. ads.
And i knew that, i just forgot, because it was a long time ago, that i last looked in my
litterature collection.
To Doctor DeSoto, yes the trim looks a bit stange, but it kind of grow on you, i can also
tell you, that it later was considert to have "added some flair" to the cars, that is what
some auto journalists have said.
And people loved changes on the cars, big or small, that was a way to show that you
had a newer car than your neighbour, so nice trim or not, i think that the reason for
little sale ( biside the fact, that 1958 was one of the worst year in auto sales ),
was the fact that you should pay extra, for a moulding on the low price model, most
would step op and buy a Saratoga.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
Abouth the trunk moulding on the 4 dr.sd., it is there, but due to bad photo angel,
as you write, you can only just se it, between the number plate frame, and the glass
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Location: Upper East Tennessee | There's a '58 Dartline 4dr Sedan in Temple's Junk Yard in Batesburg, South Carolina with the trunk molding on it. I guess I just assumed that the "Dartline" was Chrysler's version of the spring special. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi tnlowrider
Welcome to the thread,
the "Dartline" is a spring option but just for the Windsor.
Some of the trim parts like the 6 mouldings on the trunk,
the vide panel moulding, the vide extra moulding running
with the roofline, where also offert on the big models.
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P.S. do you still have parts from the Windsor you parted out ?
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Location: bishop, ca | ...The rocker panel molding was (Spring-) 'Special, too.
So, the car has the wide roof rail molding, the unique-side molding effects, the rocker panel moldings, and the 6 trunk
molding-strips.
I don't think that there was/were unique paint-colors/schemes for it, right?
And, the interior was 'standard' Windsor, too?
I dunno about all of its literature, but the Ad-Department refers to the car as being either a "Spring
Series", or a "Midseason Sensation".
The 58 Dodges were officially "Spring Specials".
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | judging by the pic´s of the "Red" and the one at "memorylane" it seems to be standard interiors on Dartline models,yet they promote speedcontrol in the ad for Dartline ! 
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
I don't think there was any special colour schemes for The "Dartline".
The interior, i haven't found anything abouth it, i have seen one picture
of a Windsor interior, and that was same i have seen in the normal Windsor,
i don't know how it should look in a "Dartline", my car dosn't have any.
I think that the only trim part you couldn't order, on the other Chrysler models,
was the unique - side moulding, but could you order those other trim parts
before spring on the big models or where the also Spring options for them ?
If it was officially called "Spring Series" or "Midseason Sensation", is hard to say,
i hope that i can find an original brochure on the model, i know they where made
especially on the "Dartline", that might give us the right name.
If somone out there has a brochure or maby a picture of it, then please let us see.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan
I seem to remember that Chrysler introduced a "Cruise Controle" in 1958,
but i don't know if it was in spring '58, if so, it might be what they where
refering to, as "Speed controle", don't you think.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | The ad above reads EXTRA! amazing new "AUTO PILOT"
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | From what I've found, there were spring-only colors as well. Mine is such a color. The copper-ish 2-door posted above is a less faded version of it. These are on the paint chips as 'early 59' colors. I don't know if these spring colors were limited to just the Spring Special / Dartline trim however or fully available. Do we know for sure the Spring Special/Dartline trim was an option? That is, could you get a standard-trim Windsor after it the Dartline came out or were all Windsors just automatically built that way once it was introduced? Is the cowel vent screen stainless on the base Windsors? I notice too some have hood ornaments, some have top-of-fender ornaments, some (like mine) have neither. Same for the rocker trim, some do, some don't. Mine does not have any additional trim around the windows. Perhaps varies by what plant built the car and what parts they had left?
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Location: bishop, ca | The side trim is too elaborate on the Dartline to be anything BUT to have been factory-only 'Special' trim.
I wouldn't be at all surprised to learn that there were special 'Spring' colors too.
Can someone post up the Paint Chip Chart, showing these "Early 59" colors/
Also, a 1959 Chrysler paint Chip Chart should call-out the mid-year 1958 colors on them.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | So Greg, are we going to see some pic´s of your "Dartline" ? we are pretty ancious....................lol |
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Neil's comment: "Can someone post up the Paint Chip Chart, showing these "Early 59" colors/
Also, a 1959 Chrysler paint Chip Chart should call-out the mid-year 1958 colors on them. " triggered a memory - I think he's right. They're on the '59 chart, not the '58. I bought a set of charts off e-Bay a while back that covered 57-59 and I think on the 59's where I found mine. Good catch Neil! I'll have to do some digging tonight. We moved last fall & all my car papers & documentation are still tucked away in totes. I've been wanting to get it dug out, this is a good reason. I'll post pics of the car too. |
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Location: bishop, ca | The 59 Dodge paint chip charts show the 58 Spring Special paint colors on them.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Took a lot of digging, but I found them. Weren't where they were supposed to be. On the bright side, I found a lot of cool stuff I didn't remember having. In some cases, I even found two of them...hahaha
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | As for pics, there are some on the site here already from when I first joined: http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9693&posts=27&highlight=wedding&highlightmode=1#M55007 Wow, four years already... my how time flies! Sad part, I'm really no further on the car now than I was then! I've accumulated parts: the water pump, fuel pump, belts, hoses, etc, gas tank, front fenders... but no brake work and hasn't been driven since that day. On the plus side of that timespan, I still have my wonderful wife, a happy healthy nearly-four year old son, an adorable 2-1/2 year old daughter, and a new house with enough acreage for a shop and room enough in the main garage to work in the meantime. I'm in the process of selling off some other toys that will hopefully cover the cost of the brakes and the rest I need to get her moving. (we now return you to your regularly scheduled thread already in progress...)  |
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Greg , amazing story! it´s a pity that your wife doesent now the phone number to chip foose! story like that is just what he needs to "overhaul" a car! Good luck with your Father and son project. i´m certain your Dad watches over you! some day it´s going to shine again! when you and your son has "overhauled" the car! Best Regards Morgan |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58 Windsor
Welcome, great name ! do you like my name ?
Your history sounds a lot like mine, i bought my Dartline in 1990, worked on it a little the first year, then stop'ed,
i ran out of parts and money, nothing has been done since i'm sad to say, i have been whitout a job a lot due to bad health.
In the meanwhile i have married a lovely girl, got a boy and a girl ( they a now 16 and 13 years old, wild mand !),
but now i am trying to find parts so i can restore it, and get it back on the streets, so the family can enjoy it.
Fortunly we now also have a 1959 Dodge we can drive around enjoying the life as a FL. family.
By the way, regarding the paintchip, the "spring color" was showen before the 1959 paintchip, i have a 1958
paintchip with an additional "spring color" side.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there
Can it be right, that there only is 8 "Dartline's" left that we know of.
Untill now on this thread, we have been talking abouth, and seen pictures of.
Four 2 dr.ht.: 1 "Tahitian Coral" ? (it look's like that color on the small picture's) in Finland.
1 under restoration in Sweden.
1 "Ermine White" at "Memory Lane" in Arizona USA.
and 1 (my own) "Cypress Green metalic" and "Ermine white" here in Denmark.
Three 4 dr.sd.: 1 "Tahitian Coral" and "Ermine White" in Sweden.
1 Spring color "Fireglow metalic" Greg (58Windsor)'s.
and 1 at "Temple's Junk Yard" in Batesburg, South Carolina USA.
One 4 dr. ht.: Light Blue i dont think it is an original color ( there is 3 Light Blue color's in '58, that it might be,
if the color on the picture is bad, that is "Ballet Blue", "Aztec Turquoise" or the spring color "Bimini Blue",
but none of the look's right ).
Is that all that is out there ? if anyone knows of other FL forum members with "dartline" cars, or just
"Dartline" cars, please let us know, it could be fun to find out how many is left.
As you can se on this 1958 "Spring color supplement" the color "Fireglow Metalic" is not showen, but
there is a note abouth it under the other color's.
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Location: Middletown CT | Hi Torbin and everyone: I know of 1 more. There is a 1958 Chrysler Windsor 4 door sedan-Dartline-
parked at a shop where I take my 60 Dodge Dart. The owner has gotten work done on the vehicle,
but has never been there to pick up the vehicle. Or been there recently at all, from what I gather. I was told by one of the mechanics that the owner does'nt know anything about older vehicles ... never mind our mother MOPAR ... It has been there at least 8 months. Shop owner says he pays great but is very hard to get ahold of.
Colors: Bimini blue and white top. Chrome on the outside is in very good shape. Only options from what I can see: ps, pb, heater, dash pad, left remote mirror, wipers, rear window defroster. Regular radio and torqueflite. Looks like a 2 barrel on the 354 wedge. The interior needs work: the gauges have mineral deposits around them, the dashpad is bad on the passenger side. Seats need redoing but have no major tears, headliner is stained. The door panels are worn but there. Rust on rockers but the undecarriage (I looked) looks ok. Passenger front turn signal lens is broken. Pedals don't look too worn; mileage on odometer is 50,000 --low 60s---- + (its been a while since I looked) I go nuts when I see this car everytime I go to the shop ....
If it is still there and I have permission I may be able to take some pictures this summer.
Oh to win the lottery ....
I love these cars, my birth year. Oh hell, I LOVE all the FL cars! And turquoise is my fav. color ....
Great to see all the info.!
Beth Harris 60 Dodge Pioneer 2 Door HT 59 Plymouth Fury 4 door HT
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Beth
Welcome to the "Dartline" thread, the info you give abouth Torqueflite and the 354 wedge engine, is the same as my "Dartline", i think most were like this, but i dont know.
Please do take some pictures if you can.
Lets se some pictures of your cars to.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | I've seen one come & go thru e-Bay. It was solid white with a blue interior, 4-door, sedan I believe. I remember another Windsor, but I can't remember if it was a dartline. It was missing the RF fender and front bumper. I also know of a twin to mine that I'm hoping to relocate to my home. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi All
With the three 4 dr. sd. that Beth and "58Windsor" (or is Greg ok ?), tell's us abouth here, we now know abouth.
Four 2 dr.ht., Seven 4 dr.sd., and one 4 dr.th. Windsor Dartline's, it would be fun if we could get pictures of all the cars,
and maby hear from the owner's of these cars.
If there is more out there please let us know.
Beth, the "Bimini Blue" car you told abouth is that in Connecticut like you ?
58Windsor, the twin car ( i take it is the model and color we talk about ) is it also in North Dakota ?
Was it and idea to start a Register of the "Dartline" Windsor's or maby all the Windsor's ?, it could be
an extra way to keep in touch, find fellow Windsor owners near by, and maby help or get help
with parts and info, beside the FL forum.
I could start it up just as a database on my computer, and we could communicate by PM or mail,
my mail is on my FL profile, let me know.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Torben, if i were in your shoes i would stick to the Dartline theme. if you bring on all windsors you might not "see the tree for the wood" if you know what i mean! Start a separate thread for your "1958 windsor community"
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You might be right, i was begining to think the same.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | By the way Morgan
Are you going to "Wheels and Wings" in Varberg this year, we are talking abouth going,
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Location: bishop, ca | I just noticed something interesting, about the Dartlines.
The 58 Dodge Spring Specials had an a la carte type-option available: body-color-painted headlight doors.
Some of the Dartlines, above, appear to have body-colored headlight doors, and others appear to have 'darker'-colored
head light doors (compared to the standard 1958 Windsor dual headlight doors).
Maybe, the Dartlines just got 'darker' headlight doors, and the appearance of 'body-color' on them is an illusion?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
On my car the headlight doors are not the same color as the body, i have only seen blank,
or like it is on my car "mat grey".
I don't know if there is some cars with body color on the headlight doors, but i have never seen it.
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Location: bishop, ca | Does that matte-gray color sorta match the appearance of the side-aluminum insert?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
No the "matte-grey" color is like a "Gun Grey", where the side-alu. insert is a mix of "blank and brushed",
as you can se on the pictures.
Are you a Dodge or DeSoto mand, i think i have seen you cotribute to one of the debate's, talking as someone
who knew abouth DeSoto's, but your profile-picture is a 1957 Dodge, or are you in to all of the FL cars.
What cars do you have yourself.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Nice pic´s Torben, and yes i will contend the "Wheels and Wing Carmeet". last year i was really surprised when i visited Tvååker 2 mil south of Varberg! Fikaträff with 1000 cars and bikes, liveband on stage. thursday before wheels and wing, it was awesome!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan
If we come to "Wheels and Wings", maby we should meet and say hello, what do you think ?
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | of course we will meet! question is, will you arrive in your Dartline?
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Location: bishop, ca | Torben , I just have that one car, but your car, as you know, was built in the Dodge assembly plant.
I've not previously seen the dark-colored/anodized(?)/painted(?) headlight doors, that the Dartlines have on them, anywhere else.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Here is pic´s of my neighburs windsor ! it´s totally unrestored!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan and Neil
Morgan, no there is absolutly no chance of me comming in the "Dartline" unless it is on a trailer.
We will come in our 1959 Dodge Sierra Spectator (or if i don't get the wiper system fixed,
our Volvo 850, but don't tell anybody ).
Neil, you say that you only have that one car, but not what it is, is that a 1957 Dodge ?
can i se pictures of it ?.
Abouth the headlight-doors i believe that most of the one i have seen, also is blank,
but if you look at the cars on this thread, also the one's in the ads, then they all have
the dark ( i think they are painted, i haven't looked at the car in years, i get sad ).
The only one that i am not sure of, is the 2 dr.ht. from Finland, you don't se it from
a god angle, do you think it might be a option or a Chrysle windsor special with dark
headlight-doors ? now that i think of it, do all the Dodge having blank headlight-doors ?
they do, don't they ?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan
I have just seen your neighburs Windsor, it is a fantastic nice unrestored car,
i wish that just one of my cars was in that shape, then i whould not complain.
Hi Neil, as we can see on these pictures, it seem that, if it is a Chrysler thing
with the dark headlight-doors, it was on all the '58 Windsor's not just the
"Dartline's", but was it standard or an option ?
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Location: bishop, ca | I've never seen (big deal-) those black-looking headlight doors, before.
Torben, I'll PM ya some pics of Horace.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
I have been digging in my collection of auto litteratur, it seem
that the dark headlight-door's, might be a late '58 thing, because
in the original brochure from the beginning of the year they are blank.
And the dark ones might not only be on Chrysler's but also on Dodge.
I have found a note in a "Spotters guide", where they point out
that the '58½ model Dodge had painted headlight-door's, maby
it was painted in the body colors, it looks like it on the pictures.
I look forward to see the pictures of your car in my mail.
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, no; Dodge did not offer/sell any darker-than-normal headlight doors, other than the body-color-matching
"Spring Special" units, and, relatively very few of THEM were produced, in 1958, or in any other year--lolol...
Seemingly, most of the 58 Dodge Spring Special headlight doors are found to be painted in that 'standard' Argent color.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
What you say is, that the late 1958 Dodge, was not delivered with painted headlight-doors,
unless you ordered the "spring Special" option, is that right ?
Because it look like, it's not only the "Dartline" Chrysler's in late '58, that had the dark one's,
i have seen ordinary '58 Windsor's with dark headlight-door's to, so i think that maby all late
'58 Windsor's came with the dark ones, but i am not sure, it can still be a option.
When do you send the pictures of "Horace"
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Location: bishop, ca | Yes, the body-color-painted headlight doors appeared as an option only on/for the S.-S. Dodges ---altho anyone
having access to a set of colored headlight doors, at the factory or at a dealership, could have put them
onto his car---and, undoubtedly, that DID happen to a few cars, back then!!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil
Have you send the pictures of "Horace", or will you send the pictures ?,
because i have not recived any !
Hi Morgan
We are comming to "Wheels and Wings", should we meet, and maby there
are others from the FL forum, that also want to meet with us, it could be fun
to make a little FL forum meet in the meet, maby even a Windsor and
Windsor "Dartline" meet.
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Location: bishop, ca | I sent 13 photos on 6/1 to ta@fill-it-up.dk
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi you FL lovers
If you plan to go to "Wheels and Wings" let's meet.
And to you with Windsor's and "Dartline" Windsor's, if the car ain't running
then come anyway, i will not come in my "Dartline" either (it is not driveable).
I hope to go in my other FL car, my 1959 Dodge Sierra Spectator ( 9 pass. stw. ),
and if so i will have my Danish build MKP camping trailer after it, so i will have a base
in the trailer area, where i can sit and look at the cars comming in to the meet.
Hope to hear from some of you so we can meet there.
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Location: bishop, ca | This weekend I was reading an early 50's car magazine and came across a photo of a Chrysler Show Car,
and realized that the side trim treatment on the 58 Dartline (like a lot of the small details, on a lot of our cars)
was derived from a (that-) show car's accent-trim feature.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Windsor and other FL fans.
We are going to "Wheels and Wings" this weekend, as i have writen before
the 1958 Windsor Dartline is not driveable, so we are going in
our 1959 Dodge Sierra Spectator 9 pass. St.Wagon.
If you are there, come and say hello, some of the time you can find us in the area,
where the cars with camping trailers is park'ed, The Dodge is Brown and Black,
and our camping trailer is a danish "MKP Grandesse Royal", white with a black stripe.
Hope yo se some of you.
And to you Neil , sorry i haven't writen sooner, but i have been very busy, what show car
was it that you read abouth, you sayed that it had some of the "Dartline" trim idea's.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there !
As i whrote in my last input i was going to the "Wheels & Wings" meet in Varberg ( Sweden, Europe ).
I did not meet any of the FL lovers from this forum, not even Morgan (mogge65), sorry Morgan,
i was gone to Sweden before your mail came.
But i saw a lot of fine cars there, and i will share some of them with you.
I was interruped, I will put the pictures on later !!
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Location: Magra, Sweden | Hi Torben, unfortunately I've found this interesting thread just now but I realized I saw your Dodge and big MKP caravan at the field. My car was the tri-tone pink, black & white 55 Dodge with the flagpole and Pentastar flag jus across the entry lane. This was the WPC Club stand.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi CRL55 ! and welcome to this thread !
Yes you are right, that is our '59 Spectator and MKP trailer, it is a shame we didn't meet.
I think I saw your Dodge at the WPC Club stand, I like the '55 and '56 to, but I must admidt
that I love the '58, I been dreaming of a '58 for over 25 years.
There was a lot of nice cars don't you think so ?
By the way is this your car ?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL lovers !
Here is some FL cars that i saw at "Wheels & Wings 2010", enjoy !!!
As you can see, I realy love the '58 Dodge and I also love the
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Location: bishop, ca | I'd never seen that 57 CRL vert before.
There's a red/white Coro (D500) vert (that I had a chance to buy, before it was sold and sent to SWE) that's been
posted on the Vasteras threads, but this CRL is new to me.
Anybody know its owner?
...We're getting away form the Dartlines, now....
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil !
What '57 are you talking abouth, one of the 300's ?
or are we talking abouth the '57 Dodge Convertible ?
I'm not sure that I follow.
It's ok to talk abouth other cars than "Dartline's", as
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, this really should be a dedicated Dartline thread, for easy, concise reference purposes.
I'm more-guilty than most in contributing to the hijacking of a thread, but, I meant to refer
to the red/white Custom Royal convertible, above here.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Your are right it should bee abouth "dartline's", but as long as it mostly is, i think it is ok.
Abouth the '57 Custom Royal, mabye Morgan knows who the owner is, he seems to know
a lot of FL people.
Bye the way a while back, you wrote that you read abouth a showcar, that had some trim
details similar to the "Dartline", what showcar was that ? do you remember ?
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Location: bishop, ca | I've been brain-farting on that car for a while now...it does (did-) exist, and it had a chrome/stainless
trim treatment up on the fender which definitely resembles the side treatment on the Dartline...I just
can't recall where I saw it...but you'll 'know' it, when you do see it!
Also, the trim treatment on the Dartlines is not unlike the trim which appears along the sides of various 30's cars'
hoods---I'll bet that a lot of people 'caught' that analogy when they first saw the Dartlines.
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Location: Magra, Sweden | Neil, I've met the owner of the 57 CRL 'vert and we spoke alot, this was the first time he drove the car since restoration (almost completed), I believe he's from Värmland in western Sweden. I'll post some pic's in a new thread in Scandinavian Region. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi soiouz !
Welcome to this thread, and thanks fore your opinion, yes there is some beautify cars there,
i love these cars, nothing beat the "Forward Look" styling.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi all you FL Fans !
Can it realy be right that there isn't eny more Dartline's out there, if you know of eny, let me know.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there !
Have you stop'ed completely, thinking abouth the "Dartline"s,
I will still like to here abouth other "Dartline"s, and if possible
here from some of the owners.
Also if there is anyone outh there with parts, for 1958 Windsor's
and especialy "Dartline" parts let me here from you, maby we
can help some of the other Windsor and "Dartline" owners out there.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there !
I have just seen this on oure Forum, another "Dartline" has surfist,
it is for sale.
here is the ad.
1958 Chrysler Windsor hard top, 4-door. Original inside and out. Straight body, good paint. Hemi engine, needs transmission work. New tires. Only 12,000 of these babies made!! BEAUTIFUL CAR!! MAKE AN OFFER!! (Buyer must pick up in Salinas, CA)
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Location: Vancouver, BC | Read through the thread again, and a couple points jumped out -
The 122" wheelbase Chrysler Windsor was built in the U.S. for 1958 and 1959, using the same body as the Saratoga and New Yorker. Front doors were shared with the Dodge and DeSoto Firesweep while the rear doors were shared with the Firesweep, but not Dodge. The front clip in 1958 was based on the Dodge while the 1959 Windsor and Firesweep used a unique front clip that was 4" shorter than the Saratoga and shared styling with the larger models.
The 122" wheelbase Chrysler Windsor was built in Canada only for 1959. The 1957-58 Canadian Windsors were actually Saratogas with Windsor nameplates and as a result, no Dartline option in Canada. Chrysler of Canada imported the Windsor wagon, thus the Windsor wagon sold in Canada was on a 122"wheelbase. When I was a kid a neighbour had a 1958 Windsor wagon. Took a few years to figure out why the wagon had a different front end from the 1958 Windsor sedan a couple of blocks away.
The 1959 Chrysler Windsors were built at Jefferson Avenue and LosAngeles, while the 1957-59 Firesweeps were built at Hamtramck and LosAngeles. And I believe the 1958 Chrysler Windsor was also built at Jefferson Avenue as well as LA.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Bill !
Thanks for the info. about Windsor's in Canada.
As i recall the Frame on the 122" 1958 Windsor was a Dodge Frame,
if you order parts for the frame (steering / suspention), you have to order
the same parts as Dodge not Chrysler.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | There's been a Dartline sighting. A near twin to mine has shown up in town. Lucky Duck actually gets to drive his. I first heard about it a couple weeks ago when a friend called excited and shocked I got mine on the road without telling him. I rushed to where he'd seen it, but it was already gone. Another friend ran across it today at a shop he does business with. This time I caught it. Harder for it to get away without front wheels...hahaha It's in for a front suspension rebuild by the looks of things. Color is slightly different than my Fireglow Poly. I don't know if it's just more faded, or was more toward a champaigne to start with. Regardless, nice car. Definitely better shape than mine; trim is much straighter and less rust overall. Very clean car; only a little rust at the bottom of the front fenders. I left my name and phone number with the shop and they clipped it onto his paperwork. Hopefully I'll get a call in a couple of days. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 1958Windsor !
Was the Windsor you found also a "Dartline" ?, and you say it is a 4 dr. sd. like yours ?.
Abouth the problem, not being able to drive in your "Dartline", i know the feeling, we can
only hope to get it on the road again some day.
If you hear from the owner, let us hear abouth it and maby se some pictures of the car,
tell him to join us here on this thread.
By the way like your name.
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Observation towers and early warning radar systems, all set up to detect the first movements of
the target car !
Has anyone here considered starting a 12 step program for this "problem" ?
Hi, my name is _________ , and I own/like/lust for 1958 Windsors .....
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Doc.
That was a good one !
Well when you only know of so few "Dartline"s, it is always fun to find new ones,
and mabye get to know them.
I know of a few DeSoto's too, interested ???
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan !
Yes it is me and my family cruising at "Wheels and Wings" 2010,
there was only 2 Danish car cruising Friday and 1 on Saturday beside us,
we cruised both days, did you take the photo ?.
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Read through the thread again, and a couple points jumped out -
The 122" wheelbase Chrysler Windsor was built in the U.S. for 1958 and 1959, using the same body as the Saratoga and New Yorker. Front doors were shared with the Dodge and DeSoto Firesweep while the rear doors were shared with the Firesweep, but not Dodge. The front clip in 1958 was based on the Dodge while the 1959 Windsor and Firesweep used a unique front clip that was 4" shorter than the Saratoga and shared styling with the larger models.
The 122" wheelbase Chrysler Windsor was built in Canada only for 1959. The 1957-58 Canadian Windsors were actually Saratogas with Windsor nameplates and as a result, no Dartline option in Canada. Chrysler of Canada imported the Windsor wagon, thus the Windsor wagon sold in Canada was on a 122"wheelbase. When I was a kid a neighbour had a 1958 Windsor wagon. Took a few years to figure out why the wagon had a different front end from the 1958 Windsor sedan a couple of blocks away.
The 1959 Chrysler Windsors were built at Jefferson Avenue and LosAngeles, while the 1957-59 Firesweeps were built at Hamtramck and LosAngeles. And I believe the 1958 Chrysler Windsor was also built at Jefferson Avenue as well as LA.
Bill, just looking at the statement highlighted in blue, Chrysler Canada also built 122" Windsors in 1960-61-62 and up to 1964 ( in fact even New Yorkers were 122" in 63 and 64). The 61-62 Canadian Saratogas were also the 122" wheelbase. So these also had a "unique" front clip that shared the styling with the larger models, as in 1959. |
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Location: Kotka/Finland | Hello, I just registred to this site since I ran into this topic in Google.
I know atleast two 58 Dartline Windsors in Finland, both 2DHTs. There was a pictutre of one of them already here and the other one is shown here from the rear:
http://public.fotki.com/Juppee/finnish-forward-loo/chrysler/page2.h...
Eventhough this topic is for Dartlines I can't hold myself telling about my 58 Windsor. It can also be seen from the link above (Golden 2DHT, register MA-618) It has been bought from California in 1988 and repainted soon after arriving to Finland. It has been in the family since 1999 when my father bought it. Seats were redone with new materials from SMS couple years ago and I also did a very painful brake overhauling at the same time, but otherwise there hasn't been so much work on it. It has about 115 000 miles on it's original drivetrain, 354 + Torgueflite. It is equipped with power windows, power steering and power brakes.
Few pictures more can be found on these pages:
http://public.fotki.com/Juppee/finnish-forward-loo/forward-lookers-...
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58CW !
Welcome to the thread, sorry i haven't seen it before,
i have had a lot to do here in december, so i havn't been on the thread.
Nice to get info. on some more "Dartline"s, thanks,
and abouth your own Windsor, you are always welcome, nice car by the way.
Hope everybody have had a nice Christmas.
Torben
P.S. if you know the owner, try to get him to post a photo to this thread.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Hi Torben! The swedish Dartline cupe is ready for the streets .......................
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan !
Thanks fore the pictures of the "Dart Line".
Is that the one that was black and was rebuild by a dealer?
who is the owner now ?
I wish it was my car that was ready fore the streets.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | yes it´s the same car! owner and builder is Leif Facius in Västervik! usabilar E22:ans handelshus
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan !
Then the car is a sales car ?
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Yes the car is for sale! here is update pic´s !
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan !
It looks beautiful ! I would love my "Dartline! to bee in that shape.
I'm not to crazy abouth the wheels, but every man he's joy.
The colour combo is a bit different.
The green body colour looks something like the original "Spurce Green" ? ( actualy my dreame colour ),
and if so, most cars I have seen have an "Ermine White" roof if it had a 2 tone combo,
but this has a green roof, and if that green is from the original colour sheet,
it look's like it might be the "Aztec Turquoise", is that right ?, it looks greate.
By the way, what does he want for the car ?
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Torben, those wheels are not permanent on that car! the original wheels aren´t done yet! have no idea what colors he used but as you say it´s a beauty! i really don´t know how much he want´s but it aint cheap! it´s not a roteserieresto but he didn´t need to! there were no rust to start with! here´s his mail adress if you or anybody wants to ask questions! usabilar.e22@telia.com
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi All you FL lovers !
Time is on our side, Spring is on it's way, pretty soon we are all cruising around, and hopefully it will be in our old car's,
our "Pride and Joy".
I look forward to this, perhaps we wil go to "Wings and Wheels" in Sweden again this year, and mabye we will run in to one another,
at least us from Europe, to our American friend's, i hope i can meet some of you, the next time I'm i America.
Happy Spring and cruising
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | There's been a sighting of a fourth dartline in the area! And this one followed me home... There was a collection of restoration projects and memorabilia auctioned off yesterday in a town about an hour away. I picked up a good parts car. I have pics, but can't find the cable for the camera to be able to load them. I'm really happy with it, and happy with the price. There was only one other bidder on it and he gave up pretty quick. This was the only forward-looker there. Nicest car at the auction was a 65 Fury II four-door. Garage-kept all its life, now showing a total of 30,015 miles. Interior was showroom new. The car really just needed some detailing and rock-chip touch up and it'd appear new. Pretty pretty car. That went for $3500. Was hard not to go after that one, but I kept my sights on the goal - my '58! |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58Windsor
Congratulation , that was a strike of luck.
Can't wait to see the photos, does it have a lot of the parts you need ?
is it a 4 dr. sedan like your own ? what are the colors ?
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Found the camera cable - here's a few quick pics http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/58Windsor/Chryslers/P1040055_resized.jpg http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/58Windsor/Chryslers/P1040054_resized.jpg http://i519.photobucket.com/albums/u359/58Windsor/Chryslers/P1040056_resized.jpg It does have a number of parts I was hoping for. Since I intend to drive mine as much as I can, I get a lot of comfort in knowing I have a spare "everything" in case something really bad happens like gettng rearended or t-boned, or I blow it and hit something, etc. The windshield is pretty good, one bullseye right on the curve down low on the driver's side. It'd be usable if something happens to mine. The trim is all pretty good, a few dings, but far fewer than mine. Mine spent too many days in the grocery store parking lot by the looks of it. There was a set of taillights in the trunk, both are cracked, but very usable. There was also an extra set of hood & trunk letters, a set of the smooth-style hubcaps and one thing I've never seen on any model '57 - '58 Chrysler -- a set of fender skirts. I test fit 'em and they're definitely for this wheelwell. I don't know if they were a factory option or an aftermarket thing. According to the license plates and the odometer, the car came off the road in 1970 with 103k on it. The trans seems to be in nice shape, the fluid looks really nice and the tailshaft spins freely if that means much. The engine is locked solid, but provided a complete carb and stock fuel line (my choke mechanism was missing and the fuel line was butchered). My radiator is also pretty weak and this one looks very good. No PB on this one, but does have PS. The interior is very rough, but the top section of the seats with the molded W is in pretty good condition. The front fenders are good too, whereas mine have large holes behind the eyebrows. A buddy that went up with me picked up a very restorable '65 Impala 2-door. I drove that one back while he towed mine (used his truck, mine's currently waiting some motor work). All in all, a very good day. I spent Sunday stripping it down of all the parts I wanted to keep safe. Monday night we took the bare shell to the farm. My immediate neighbors are car guys too, but I try to keep the turnaround fast for the sake of those in the neighborhood that aren't (and for the wives of those who are). I still know of one more. Again, a twin to mine like this one. That one's not as nice, but I'd still like to see it in my pasture instead of theirs. Not to be greedy, but because I know if it's mine, it'll never see a crusher no matter how high the price of metal goes. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58Windsor
Sorry I haven't reply' ed sooner, but my computer have been struck by a very bad virus, so i have been without computer for a long time,
"man that is hard" i have always sayed that a computer was a time robber, and that i had better things to do, but darn it's had to be without.
I'm glad to hear that you got your hands on that "DartLine" and you say that you have found one more, I will try to make a count,
over the cars we know of until now.
By the way, i cant see your pictures, can you put them on this thread.
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Location: bishop, ca | Morgan, that red and the white 4-dr Dartline are probably different cars, since the fender antennae are on opposite
sides of the cars and the rear view mirrors are different, but, maybe-not; the tires look very similar on both images.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL friends!
Thanks for the new pictures, that give us some new "DartLine" cars,
now we just have to find out who own them, and hopefully get them to tell us abouth them on this thread.
I also have some exsiting news, I have finely found a Brochure on the "DartLine",
I knew of it, but I had never seen one, now I have got one,
I will scan it in and put the pictures on this thread.
The brochure also contain some other interresting informations,
abouth the so called "Spring Option", was it awailebel on all Chrysler models,
and what dit it contain, this info is also in this brochure.
The brochure is not a normaly sale brochure, it is an intern company brochure,
it tell's the dealers abouth what they can use to boost sale,
and how the company will advertiseI for the "DartLine".
I will post it soon.
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Location: bishop, ca | You should call yourselves : "Dartliners" !
What do you suppose this car model's designers would have said, if anyone, back then,
had told them (for ANY FWDLK'er, for that matter???) : " You know, 50 years from now
people will be obsessing over the ownership and the documentation of these cars".
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil !
I can tell you what they would have sayed, that the one's saying it were Nuts !!!
On the other hand, we are Nuts, but we love it, dont we !
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | mogge65 - 2011-06-19 4:02 PM i "borrowed" this from internet, sorry! i think this is FIREGLOW METALLIC I have doubts, but I hope so! Mine was Fireglow and I really like the color on this car!! Monitors can alter the colors, but mine has a more orange tint than what I'm seeing here. This appears as more of a burnt copper or GM's Sierra Gold. I wish we knew what this one was for certain!! I really like it! Pretty pretty car! Anyone know the owner? |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there fellow FL fans!
I have been to busy for a while, "rebuilding" the house, giving my kids new rooms, the wife a new livingroom,
but also making a first floor on my garage for my collection of automobilia ( I'm not completly finished ).
Last but not least, we have purchased and started rebuilding a 1964 Dodge model 440 2 dr. ht. for my son,
( He will get his drivers licens next year ).
Buy the way, I have also located an other Dartline, and I'm in contact whit the owner abouth a possible deal,
so 58 Windsor you might not be the only one with a little luck, I'l let you know how it turns out.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi you guy's !
Have I been away from the thread, so long that you have droped reading it ???
You guy's have show'ed us a couble of Dartline's, who's owner we haven't heard from,
if you can, ask them to join us on the thread, and tell their story.
And what abouth your summer, have you been on any meet or something like that with your cars,
please let us hear.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Haven't forgotten it, have just been busy as you've been. I worked hard to make it to a local show, doing a lot of work on the car, only to have the front wheel cylinders fail the week prior and to find her stuck in first gear. I suspect the latter may just be the throttle valve rod adjustment, but have not gotten back to check. We're feeling summer slipping away now, so all those outdoor projects are gaining priority. Probably won't get back onto the car anymore now until after the holidays. So close!!! |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58 Windsor !
I know how you feel !
I still ain't finished with my garage project, so the next couple of weeks will I still be working on that,
I got to be finished before the rain realy starts, because I have enty'ed my garage by moving everything out to a big tent,
and that ain't to waterproff, so I am in a hurry to get everything back in to the garage.
Bad luck with your Windsor, maby we get a little "Indian Summer" so you will be able to get it done, and still get a little crusing time,
before winter, luckly I have my 59 Dodge to cruise in.
My boy is also getting a bit restless, he wants us to work on his Dodge "440", but who can blame him, I remember my first car.
I hope some of the owners of the new cars we have got on this thread, will be joining us and maby tell there story.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there
I have been busy over the summer working on our house and the garage, now my memorabilia room on the first floor is almost finished,
and so is the garage part down under, so now I hope we can get some god story’s, and informative debates going again on this thread.
We have been talking about the 1958 Chrysler Windsor “Dartline’s”, and how many we knew of that still exist today,
up till now we have counted 19 different ( unfortunaly we do not have pictures of all of them, it could be fun if that was possible ).
I hope to hear about some new cars that you fellow FL lovers has spotted, and I hope to see some pictures of them,
also on the cars we know but until now don’t have pictures of.
Beside that write and tell us about your car, restore experience, good or bad dealers, if you need some part or if you got some for sale,
or anything you think can be of interest for us fellow “Dartliner’s”.
I will make an updated list of the cars we know of, and put it on here soon.
Also I will put on pictures of my original “Dartline” Brochure as I promised while back.
Torben
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fellow "Dartliner's" and other FL friends
We are at the time of year, where it is starting to get cold, at least in Denmark,
the cars have been put away for the winter, and they are even talking abouth posible
snow in the near future.
Now it is time to start some of the indoor things, like chating on the FL threads,
cleaning up the garage, working on the cars, and yes helping the wife with the house,
fortunaly I have been doing a lot in the house this year, so I am not so pressed here.
I hope to get some work done on my son's '64 Dodge, my own '59 Dodge, my camping trailer
and then I hope I will be able to finish my garage.
I have been working on the "Dartline" list lately, and that will be put on the thread soon.
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You should call yourselves : "Dartliners" !
What do you suppose this car model's designers would have said, if anyone, back then,
had told them (for ANY FWDLK'er, for that matter???) : " You know, 50 years from now
people will be obsessing over the ownership and the documentation of these cars".
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I have always found it hard to believe that a car like my DeSoto was considered ugly
and out of fashion.
If you think about it, the cars didn't change, just the viewer's eye.
I remember the first time I saw one. The sensation was like being struck by lightning.
I felt that way 30 years ago. I feel that way now. How could anyone not think this is the
most beautiful car ever built ? Are they nuts ? Yet out of 474 built, only about 5 are known
to survive. Everyone else thought they were worthy of nothing more than the scrap heap.
But to extrapolate, ... I tend to think of cars from a salesman's perspective after having
grown up in the muscle car era. Imagine the years 63 thru 69 and every year those cars
they delivered out back of your Dodge dealer were faster and jazzier than the year before.
And then came 70. Sorry, buddy ... this is the best we got. Then 71 and 2 .... 
By 74 you were being asked to sell gutless ugly crap and your paycheck depended on you
hawking them with enthusiasm, when you knew full well that they were 1/2 the car you were
offering just a few years before.
In this light, I find it hard to accept that people didn't look at post FL cars and shake their
heads. The golden age was over. Buy a shapeless box and act like you're happy about it.
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Location: Kansas City, Kansas | Doctor DeSoto - 2011-10-28 8:38 AM
I have always found it hard to believe that a car like my DeSoto was considered ugly
and out of fashion. If you think about it, the cars didn't change, just the viewer's eye.
I agree with you, but that is our society. Look at the preferred house of 90% of Americans. They think the modern bland suburban home is the best thing since sliced bread. Most Americans lack the desire to pay attention to what the “best” really is, but prefer to be “told” (or sold) what is the “best”. Fashion is about the art of the sales pitch. Get the masses to think your poo smells the best and you make a mint.
I work in architecture and it is interesting to watch the historical trends of things. In the ‘60s we were tearing down anything and everything as fast as possible to replace it with modern buildings. Get rid of that ugly old Victorian or anything else built before WWII! If we cannot afford to tear it down, lets strip off the ornamentation and hang metal facades over the front of the building to make it look less old. Now we look back and wonder what we were thinking. Buildings look great for 10 years then sit as reminders of our mistakes for the next 5 or 6 decades. Then suddenly, we get nostalgic when a building survives over 50 or 75 years and want to preserve it. Cars are the same…except the timeline is a little shorter. Same with clothing or hair styles.
At some point it will end, when what we build (cars or buildings) has a soul-less design and will never be worthy of our nostalgic need to preserve it. Are we already there?
Doctor DeSoto - 2011-10-28 8:38 AM
I remember the first time I saw one. The sensation was like being struck by lightning.
I felt that way 30 years ago. I feel that way now. How could anyone not think this is the
most beautiful car ever built ? Are they nuts ? Yet out of 474 built, only about 5 are known
to survive. Everyone else thought they were worthy of nothing more than the scrap heap.
I am with you here. I am a bit younger than you, (born in ’71) but follow the same path. I was in total awe at the first forwardlook I saw in the early ‘80s. Actually…anything with fins was fantastic. How could anyone not want these today, I thought. Don’t forget that 90% of the car buying public wants “easy”, not “beautiful”. Even if the forwardlooks were always loved, well over half would have been crushed due to being plain worn out or damaged. I have sent a few cars I loved to the junkyard because its service life was over and it was time to move on. A new car will always be the right car to an owner wanting simple, dependable transportation.
I would argue that 95% of the general public would still find no value in our Forwardlooks. We are really a small bunch and our passion for these cars is rare. My wife sees no beauty in fins. I would argue this is a mainstream opinion, especially for people 40 years and younger that have no nostalgic connection to them.
Doctor DeSoto - 2011-10-28 8:38 AM
But to extrapolate, ... I tend to think of cars from a salesman's perspective after having
grown up in the muscle car era. Imagine the years 63 thru 69 and every year those cars
they delivered out back of your Dodge dealer were faster and jazzier than the year before.
And then came 70. Sorry, buddy ... this is the best we got. Then 71 and 2 ....
By 74 you were being asked to sell gutless ugly crap and your paycheck depended on you
hawking them with enthusiasm, when you knew full well that they were 1/2 the car you were
offering just a few years before.
I love hearing my old boss talk about the Midwest car culture in the early ‘70s. He graduated H.S. in ’74. He would talk about the new ’73 LeMans/Chevelle cars at the dealership and everyone was shaking their heads. It seemed that was the new trend in car design, so get used to it. I also get that vibe from reading early/mid ‘70s car magazines. At least the cars were new with no miles on them, so the general public bought them….or should I say were “sold” to them.
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Location: Parts Unknown | That's just it ....
Sorry guys. We've run out of food, so we're going to feed you shxt.
Actually, it was more like "Some people way up line decided to fxck you guys and quit
offering anything cool. Instead, we have this garbage we are going to make you pay full
retail for and pretend like it is even better than that "old junk" we used to sell. Better put
a smile on that face there, maggot.
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Location: Netherlands | As a (Dutch) kid, in the '80s, I already had developed a liking of the big 'older' US-made cars. I still remember the day(s) when I heard that some brand was bringing out their new model of that year. I got somewhat excited and anxious to see what they would come up with, but everytime it was a huge disappointment to me as the 'thing' they showed was just an uglier, smaller, wimpier version of the year before.
I also remember Dutch TV shows where the winner would be able to win a car. I had seen ('70s) TV shows in the US where the winner would drive home with some fullsize luxurious car, where on the Dutch TV shows the 'winner' was expected to react happy when he was handed the keys of some of the smallest and cheapest little fåggy econo-Euro/Jap-shîtbox made that year.
This kinda crap really shaped my vision of that era and is part of the reason why I started disliking anything just about any car made after the mid '70s orso.
Buttehh, aren't we slightly offtopic here?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi, I think like you.
It is very few car after 1970, that I find exiting from US. and if we take Europe and asia,
there are compared to the numbers of models produced much less.
I fell in love with the 1950's US cars, when I first saw "American Graffiti" in 1976 at age 14,
but when I got my licence as 18 ( you are not allowed to drive before 18 in Denmark ) there was not
many 50's cars around, at least not American car, so I bought a 1969 Dodge Dart GT, that was a good car
and that started my love for Mopar, everybody els wanted GM or Ford and preferbly Muscle cars.
The more I looked at the 50's Mopar the more I fell in love, I also like a 1968 - 69 Charger,
but it is absolutly the 50's that I find most exiting,
I also fell in love with the music, the cloth, the hairstyle, and the way that most people then
treated each other with respect, something that is really missing today.
So to say it shortly "I'm lost in the 50's"
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi "Dartliner's" and other FL lovers !
Sorry it has been so long.
To Soiouz
You told us abouth a "Dartline" fore sale on the net, I know abouth the car,
a while back I wrote abouth a car I was in the proces of buying, it was that car.
It was on ebay twise before I got in contact with the owner, nobody bit on it,
we wrote to each other, but when I asked for some extra pictures of the trunk and undercarriage,
I newer heard anything.
Then you saw it on ebay again, but this time with the pictures I asked for, so I don't know
why he never wrote me back, maby it was because he had a feeling, that I would find it to much a
parts car when I saw the pictures, and I did.
This time on ebay it was put on at a lower price and sold ( but at the start price ).
To Morgan, nice pictures of the "Dartline" from Finland, do you know the owner ?
I will, as promised, come back with the new list of "Dartline's" that we know of, a few new is turn up.
Also I promised to put on the special intern "Dartline" brochure, but my scanner has been out of order.
Torben
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Location: Montreal, Canada | 58WindsorDartline - 2011-12-18 8:54 AM
Hi "Dartliner's" and other FL lovers !
Sorry it has been so long.
To Soiouz
You told us abouth a "Dartline" fore sale on the net, I know abouth the car,
a while back I wrote abouth a car I was in the proces of buying, it was that car.
It was on ebay twise before I got in contact with the owner, nobody bit on it,
we wrote to each other, but when I asked for some extra pictures of the trunk and undercarriage,
I newer heard anything.
Then you saw it on ebay again, but this time with the pictures I asked for, so I don't know
why he never wrote me back, maby it was because he had a feeling, that I would find it to much a
parts car when I saw the pictures, and I did.
This time on ebay it was put on at a lower price and sold ( but at the start price ).
To Morgan, nice pictures of the "Dartline" from Finland, do you know the owner ?
I will, as promised, come back with the new list of "Dartline's" that we know of, a few new is turn up.
Also I promised to put on the special intern "Dartline" brochure, but my scanner has been out of order.
Torben
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi David !
Always good to hear from fellow FL fans, and nice that you help us find other
Dartline cars and owners.
I followed the sale on ebay, after I saw the extra pictures of the trunk and undercarriage,
I found out that I was right, there was a lot of rust, at least to much for my project.
I still think it will be a nice project car ( I dont need one more of those ) or a wery nice parts car,
but then I think the price was to high.
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Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Windsor (see this ad at swedish site. Windsor is in US now but...some one have bought it and will sale it...)
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Windsor59 !
Yes that is the "Dartline" we have been writing abouth, it look rather nice on thise pictures doesn't it.
That was what made me contact the US. owner, for a possible buy, but I saw a picture of the trunk
that made me wonder how the undercarrigde looked, so I asked for some pictures of that, and I never
heard from him again, but I saw some from when he put it up for sale again on ebay, I didn't bid on it.
And now it is for sale in Sweden, as I see it, it is a good project or a very good parts car, but then I think
the price is a bit to high.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi again !
I found some of the pictures I saw of the "DartLine" we have been writing abouth,
but unfortunaly not all from the undercarrigde.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Dear fellow FL fans !
Again it is a long time since I last posted on the thread, I have had a lot to do lately,
I hope to get some time again now that it is so cold outside.
I plan to put on an update'ed list, over the "Dartline's" that we know off,
and as I promised, I will put on the special "Dartline" brochure i found.
What about you guys, are you busy restoring your cars, does any of you
have pictures that you can share with us, then please do so.
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Location: NY & VT | Did Chrysler offer any new Spring Special colors as DeSoto did? DeS had 3 unique colors that were introduced with for Spring Special models. |
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | No activity on mine. I've done a lot of work in the garage though rearranging and organizing. Finally cleared enough space I was able to get the pickup in for it's overdue engine swap. Once that's done I'll get (re)started on the '58 again. Next up: brakes.
"Did Chrysler offer any new Spring Special colors as DeSoto did? DeS had 3 unique colors that were introduced with for Spring Special models."
Yes. Three. The FireGlow we've discussed is one. The two-door on the rollback truck above is a good example of that. We actually covered that exact question on page one of this thread. Chip Charts and all. The post from Mogge65 with the three cars on one ad shows those three as well. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Firedome welcome to this thread !
Just as 58Windsor say, we have talked abouth the spring colors before,
but when I put on the "Dartline" brochure you can see them again
( I just have a problem, the brochure is to big for the scanner ).
Chrysler also had 3 spring colors, "Fireglow", "Bimini Blue" and "Frosty Tan".
Hi 58Windsor, I feel with you, there is always something that need to be done first,
but maby I will get to my "Dartline" one day, I hope so.
When you and others do something, load some pictures of what you do,
and how long you get.
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Location: NY & VT | Thanks Torben! ... my interest in these is that I may be getting a 58 Windsor Spring Special - has the wide roof and rocker moldings, the 3 strips on the trunk, but not the Dart-Line side trim. It's a 4 dr Hardtop in a faded tan metallic color, it might be "Frosty Tan" Not sure that I like that color, so may change it to one of the other 58 Spring Special colors like the "Fireglow"!
And since y'all are 58 owners, does anyone know of a source for good used 58 tail-light lenses? The repro's are not very affordable, and the repro-er in AU is alleged to be, well, er, not very dependable!
I wonder if my long lost family in Goteborg are driving ForwardLooks now... maybe it's in the Scandinavian genes!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Firedome !
All is welcome, also if they don't own a "Dartline",
as you will see when I upload the "Dartline" brochure,
it also cower the rest of Chrysler Spring models, so it cower
your new car to.
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| mogge65 - 2011-06-19 10:59 AM
Swedish Dartline, could be the same car before and after paint :cool:
Hi, i have own the white windsor "Dartline" . It´s still unrestored an in North of Sweden, the guy that owns it today isn´t selling it :-(
The car was 99,9% rustfree!! 354, pushbutton, power steering and brakes. / Robert.
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Location: Nasco , SWEDEN | Welcome to Forwardlook site nr 1 Robert. Hope you will enjoy this site
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL Friends !
It took some time, but I have finaly found someone with a scanner, that could take
the size of my "Dartline" broch., so here it is.
As you can see, it also shows the "Spring" options to the other Chrysler models,
and the "Spring" colors.
Torben
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Damm I forgot how to include the pictures, I'll come back.
Yiiipiiii it worked
We tryed to conect the two picture that shows the inside of the folder,
so it would be show'n as one, but that did'n happen, I hope it still give
you an idea, and some good info.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Thanks for sharing that! That's cool. I hope I can run across one of these brochures someday to add to the collection.
Interesting that all the outline drawings show the bumperettes, but the fully colored cars do not. The text doesn't indicate they're part of the package, so they may have stll been considered further optional trim. It also answers why I couldn't figure out the 'additional roof trim' mentioned by others. Being mine's a sedan, I don't have it.
The "HERE ARE THE THINGS THE FACTORY WILL DO" section could now be subtitled "Here's a convenient shopping list for memorbilia to hunt down" hahaha
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | 58Windsor - 2010-11-16 8:57 PM There's been a Dartline sighting. A near twin to mine has shown up in town. Lucky Duck actually gets to drive his. I first heard about it a couple weeks ago when a friend called excited and shocked I got mine on the road without telling him. I rushed to where he'd seen it, but it was already gone. Another friend ran across it today at a shop he does business with. This time I caught it. Harder for it to get away without front wheels...hahaha It's in for a front suspension rebuild by the looks of things. Color is slightly different than my Fireglow Poly. I don't know if it's just more faded, or was more toward a champaigne to start with. Regardless, nice car. Definitely better shape than mine; trim is much straighter and less rust overall. Very clean car; only a little rust at the bottom of the front fenders. I left my name and phone number with the shop and they clipped it onto his paperwork. Hopefully I'll get a call in a couple of days. I forgot to post a follow-up on this. I never heard from the owner, but I have found out who it is. I've not had the pleasure of meeting him, but have heard he has some really nice Forward Looks. Considering the Dartline I saw was getting a front suspension rebuild using strictly NOS parts, it sounds like this one will get there as well. Nice to know it has a good home! |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Greg !
Nice to hear what happend with the other "Dartline", a pitty he has not been in contact,
maby you shuld just try again later, yes it sound like it is in a good home.
When I hopefully start to restore my "Dartline", I must admit I will proberbly go the easy way
and use repro parts, I dont't think I can affort that many NOS parts, and I don't even think
I can find that many, it need's almost everything.
Abouth the brochure, yes I'm so happy to have found this, and from the "to collect list" I
have 3 different big size Full page Ads., 2 is one page and 1 is a two-spred.
I don't have the Postcard and it could be fun to see what the other material is, if it is something
we can collect.
I'm allredy collecting auto related material, I have abouth 10.000 brochures, 3.000 Owners manuals
and 1.500 Workshop and Parts manuals ( I must admit I have never counted them so I don't know ),
beside that I have maby 2.500 magasines and 400 books.
I also collect Model cars (mainly Chrysler corp.) and Petromobilia, and things from the 50's, I have some
Photo camera's, portable Record players and 2 TV's, so yes im a bit of a nostalgic 50's "nuttcase".
That might explain why I was so busy with my garage project last year, I need'ed a place for my collection.
Maby I should try to count all the things I have ??? do I dare, or will my wife juse it against me ???
Torben
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Location: NY & VT | Great info - thanks for posting it Torben!! It clearly shows the Spring Trim options for my soon to come (hopefully) '58 Windsor, which has the "Insert" instead of "Dartline", with the wide roof trim, rocker trim, and 3 trunk strips. |
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Location: NY & VT | PS - Is that Windsor 4 dr sedan on the cover of the brochure supposed to be Frosty Tan?
It looks more like very pale purple to me?!
Especially when you compare it to the samples on the following pages.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
You are welcome, I knew this information would be interresting, and
You are right, it dosn't look like "Frosty Tan" but I think it is supose to be.
That just show's what I always say, you can not use a printed colorchip,
you have to have a colorchip with paint samples, because a printcolor
are different than a paint color, and the color on the print will change a little
for each print, so no two are alike, remember that if you are looking for samples
to paint a car.
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Location: NY & VT | Right, and I have the color sample sheet from Dupont, which has actual paint chips, so they should be accurate. What is interesting is that the color on the DartLine Windsor sedan in the brochure above looks identical to the color in the pics the seller sent me of my soon to come Spring '58, and the seller described it as a faded Light Lavender color, not tan. And Chrysler DID offer a light pale purple for '59, called Iris, I believe? Hmmmm. I wonder if the late '58s could get a '59 color? |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | firedome - 2012-03-02 1:23 PM
Right, and I have the color sample sheet from Dupont, which has actual paint chips, so they should be accurate. What is interesting is that the color on the DartLine Windsor sedan in the brochure above looks identical to the color in the pics the seller sent me of my soon to come Spring '58, and the seller described it as a faded Light Lavender color, not tan. And Chrysler DID offer a light pale purple for '59, called Iris, I believe? Hmmmm. I wonder if the late '58s could get a '59 color?
In a word, no.
Check the paint code on the data tag. The colour code on the tag will be a 1958 code. Anything else will be a special code.
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Location: NY & VT | Here's a picture that gives some idea of the color, although I realize pictures can bee tricky. The seller described it as a "pale Lavender"... perhaps it's just a badly faded Frosty Tan... I'm pretty sure the car wears original paint... opinions?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Roger !
I think one gess is as good as an other.
When you look at the picture, it can be a faded "frosty tan",
but it can also look "pale lavender".
My advise is look at the ID plate when you get the car, then compere
it to the colors of the year, that should give you the color, unless the car
has been repainted at some point.
I look forward to se some pictures of it when you get it,
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi out there, in FL World !
Dam' We have been busy working on my son's Dodge, we have set a deadline,
that it shall be on the road on the 19 of mai, he's 18 years birthday, and
the day he hopefully gets his Drivers licence.
What is happening in "Dartline - land", has anybody found anything interesting,
has anyone got some work done on the cars ?, let us know.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL Friends !
I guess I'm not the only one who is busy, what abouth you Roger have you got your Windsor home ?
Everybody, let us hear what you are doing, is anything going on with your cars ?
Torben
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Location: NY & VT | Hi Torben and all: she's home all safe, I put pics under "Winnie" on Members Rides. So far cleaned up the engine compartment of stuff & debris left by mice or?, degreased the top of the engine, cleaned all the chrome, the got the carpet & seal belts out and vacuumed the inside, and touched up the floor paint where there was surface rust only, on the F pass side where there was a small window leak. I used zinc cold anodizing paint then enamel. Looking for a few minor trim parts, and picked up a factory Parts List from fast59desoto Jeff.
She was originally Frosty Tan, but apparently painted '59 Iris when still fairly new! Evidence of some old damage on the pass side rear 1/4 so there will need to be body work there, but the rest is fine.
How's the Dartline coming?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi all !
To firedome, it is good to hear that it is home, and that you have done these things, abouth my Dartline nothing has happend,
but my sons 1964 Dodge is almost ready for the road.
What abouth all you other "DartLiner's" ???
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Location: NY & VT | Since mine has an "Insert" instead of a "Dartline", maybe I'm an "Inserter" ? ;-)
All the rest of the extra Spring trim is the same: 6 bars on trunk, wide roof trim, and rocker trim. No hood or fender ornaments though. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome
I think you are right, you most deffently are an "inserter", I here bay name you "Sir Firedome of Windsor",
knight of the brotherhood of Windsor's, well they said we were crazy, now we just proven it.
Well back to beeing serios.
Abouth the "Spring option", the Hood and fender ornament's, are not a part of that,
after what I know you could buy that at any time, and any model, but they were
a bit different from model to model.
So my "Dartline" don't have neither Hood or fender ornament eighter, but I will
like to have them, maby one day, but it is not on top of my list, when I start to
restore it.
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Location: NY & VT | I kinda like that name!
I kind of like mine without the hood and fender ornaments, the lines and the body design is so clean it doesn't need any extra chrome imho. ANd it already has extra chrome along the roof-line, rockers and on the trunk.
Now to choose a paint color - I usually like to keep things all original, but the Frosty Tan/white is kind of boring to me. I love pale purple, but Chrysler didn't offer one in 58. So I may go with colors of the '56 Dodge LaFemme, which is 2 tones of light and medium Orchid Lavender, I think those colors would look really beautiful on this car. AT least they are authentic Mopar colors! |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
I also like things to bee original, but I'm not fanatic,
so if there is an other "color scheme" you like better, go fore it,
those color's of the "LeFemme" are nice, I also like the "Corral scheme",
my "Dartline" is "Cypress Green" but I will like to see it as "Spurce Green",
I'm just lucky that it is a '58 color, even if it was'nt I would like to see it in that color.
I also like the chrome on my "Dartline" as it is, but I would like the Hood ornament,
that is pretty neat, but is is not a must have.
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Location: NY & VT | Which model year had the Coral scheme? I love that color as well.
Hood ornament shouldn't be too hard to find, do you have one? If not fast59desoto here knows of several 58 Chrysler parts cars here in NY that might have one.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | I think the coral colors began in '55 / '56, but I most look in my pile of literature to be sure.
About the Hood ornament, if I remember right, the ornament on the Windsor is not the same as the others,
it would be nice to find a nice one, do you think that fast59desoto maby knows of a parts car with a good body,
that is my what I need most on my "Dartline!'.
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Location: NY & VT | I'm pretty sure he knows of a '58 Windsor in a yard here in NY, but I have never seen it myself. He can be hard to get ahold of, you might try a PM. I need a good grille and grille emblem myself.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
Sorry I haven't writen before, been working like crazy, unfortunly nothing I get payed for.
Abouth fast59desoto, that sound's interresting maby I'l try to contact him.
You write that you need a grill and a grill emblem, so do I ( and the rest of the car !!! ),
but just to tell you how stupid I have been thru the years ( some of the reason becauce
of low economi due to bad helf ).
Some years ago I found a NOS grill in original box but I didn't buy it,
I got in contact with a guy who had bought a fine driving car in wery wery nice condition,
he wanted to take the car apart becauce he should only use the body to rebuild a Chrysler 300,
so I could buy the rest, but I lost he's phone number ( bad luck or what ? ).
I havn't had the time to find the year for the Corral color scheme, but I will fine it for you.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | The Grill was on a marked some years ago.
And the problem with the guy with the car,
is that I had the number and e-mail adress on my computer,
but it was infected with virus, so I lost everything on it.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL friends !
Hope you enjoy the summer out there, I have unfortunatly not been to that many meets,
and the weather has not been to good in Denmark, but the family and I try to enjoy our FL car anyway.
Has any of you out there made some good deals or had some nice eksperince's, lets hear !
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Location: NY & VT | Not exactly a Mopar, but I made a good deal on a 1977 SAAB 99GL , just like the one I bought new in 1974! Will be my summer driver at my summer house.
Been looking for a backup lens for pass side for my '58 Windsor Spring Special, and the "insert" trim for the passenger rear door... no luck yet!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
It's fun to se, how European cars is cosidert status in the USA,
most of the car people I know would prefer an American car,
we think Euro. cars they suck, exept for a few special cars,
(and no I don't mean BMW, Mercedes and the likes, we think they suck).
But one of my naighbours is a SAAB enthusiast, so if you
need something he might be able to help, and I think I have
the original Brochure.
Wasn't your Windsor driveabel ?.
What abouth some of the other Windsor and Windsor "Dartline" peoble,
have you had a god summer ?.
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Location: NY & VT | No the Windsor hasn't been driven since 1993, but the engine spins free, and we hope to pull the gas tank and clean it out, blow out the lines, and see if she will run this fall. Been looking for a few parts I need for it (see "wanted"), in the meantime.
The SAAB is just a fun summer run-about for me, with gas prices getting high a 4 cyl. makes sense, and it is one of the safest small cars there, far better than any small US car of that 1970s era. And it has minimal computer-ization, simple to work on! We did have BMW and Benz, and the DO suck! Except the 1973 BMW 2002, we liked that one.
I need a US style (all white, no orange) SAAB 99 front driver-side turn signal lens, but that may be hard to find in Europe! Mechanical parts are mostly still available, we just put 4 shocks on her, and I have 4 ball-joints to do next.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
Sorry abouth my long responce time, things have been crazy around here.
Hope that it will be that easy with the Windsor.
Yor are right, if it has to be BMW, the 2002 or the old 3,0 csi coupe from the 70's
are the only ones of any interest, but the prices on old 2002's are crazy.
It's a long time since I have heard from any of the other "Dartline" owners,
so I don't know what is happening.
Abouth my own I can only say pictures lie, It is a complete restoration,
and the last year I have help'ed my son (when i could doo to bad helf),
restoring a 1964 Dodge 440 (his first car), but I hope to begin on my "Dartline"
maby as a winther project, maby this winter or next winter.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Mogge65 !
Nice to hear from you, have you had a good summer ?
Thanks for the input abouth the 4 dr.sd. "Dartline", nice.
I have to look at that homepage, to see if that Ben Piff is on the FL network,
if not, then he should if the car is his, it will be fun to find out.
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Location: NY & VT | A power washer would do wonders for that Dartline! Thanks for the pics of that Morgan! - wonder where it is? Lots of vegetation but not a rust bucket car - my guess is the Pacific Northwest US? I'd love some parts off that one, but it looks too good to part out! My grille badge looks exactly like that one, missing the plastic insert.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
It is the same grill badge on all the '58 Chryslers expt. the 300,
my badge is also missing the insert, I think that is pretty normal,
it was glued on, maby that is why.
Have anyone news abouth some of the Dartline's, "mogge" found
a new one reasently, as you can see a little higher up on this side.
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | This episode of Highway Patrol http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGu8EiuH33k&feature=relmfu has a 1958 Windsor Dartline featured
from about 6:00 and onward but it morphs back and forth from a hardtop to a sedan.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi imopar380 !
Thanks for shering this with us ( by the way, love your Saratoga ).
I think i have seen a short clip from this serie some time ago,
but I did not know that it was a mopar goldmine.
The Dartline in this episode is great, but I do think it is a 4 dr.ht. all the way,
it is just show'n with and without open window's, there is no B pillar, I think
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Joakim !
Thanks for the pictures of the "Dartline", it look's very much like one I found a little while back on the net for sale,
but it isn't the same they just look very much alike, I think I will try to make an update on the list of "Dartline's"
we know of.
Keep comming with pictures and information, also if you have talked to any of the owners of cars we just know of,
but never have seen, lets hear about them or maby get a hold on some pictures.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
As you can se early'er on this thread ( on the bottom of page 3 ),
I have show'ed the intern brochure for dealer's on the Windsor Dartline, and here it show's
that the "new Roof molding", the "new Rear Deck trim" and the "new Sill ( Rocker Panel ) molding",
is part of the "Spring Chrome Molding Trim Package".
This package was according to the brochure part of the Dartline order, but it could also be ordered
without the "Dartline trim" on the Windsor with the insert trim ( on the back fender ), and all other
Chrysler cars in 1958 as a "spring" option.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Hi Guys
Just had to drop in to say Hello. Been a while since I added anything to this thread. I've had the bug lately to work on my '58 again. Another house project and a couple others to wrap up and hopefully I can get back to her. I gave in a little and made a trip to the local junkyard this past Saturday. A '79 Lebaron (Diplomat) gave up its spindles and disc brake parts for me. It had 11x2-1/2" rears which I grabbed too. They'll work nice on the '67 Monaco rear axle already waiting (has 11x2 brakes which parts aren't as available for). Add a '74 Dart MC and I should be all set to start swapping parts when time allows.
I've been wanting to have her on the road so bad this fall. I can scratch the old-car itch pretty well thru the summer with my '67 Skylark convertible. But when the weather's still nice, but not "top down" nice, I really start itchin' for the '58...
I never ran across the other '58 Dartline in town this year at all. A friend saw it once, but just on a glance, and thought it looked like it'd been painted now. Definitely a lighter color than mine. I'm going to guess it's Champagne (?) Yeah, I'm jealous. haha I'll get there!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58Windsor !
After what we know, there is not many of us "Dartline" owners, that's driving in our Windsor's,
but some of us have something to ease the pain, so we still can cruise a little, you have a nice Buick Conv.
not bad.
You Write that you have found some parts you can use, what do you mene when you write '74 Dart MC ?
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Location: NY & VT | '74 Dart Master Cylinder... a dual circuit master cylinder that's a well known and easy swap into a FLer... I intend to do this as well
I also have a convertible - 1970 Fury III convertible - to drive in while I work on my Windsor, but I will have to sell it to help to pay for restoring my '58 :-( See the "Miscellaneous For Sale" in Forums.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Ok, now I understand thanks !
I am on a hunt for a new Master Cylinder too ( for my '59 Spectator ), but my parts dealer think he can find a rebuild.
It's nice with 2 alternative cars, you are lucky.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fellow FL fans and owners !
I just want to wish you all a Merry Christmas, and hear if anything has happend out there in FL land lately.
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Location: USA - KY | firedome - 2012-09-11 9:07 AM
Geio Laurie has a repro of the badge, but expensive, and his reputation for spotty delivery time keeps me a bit wary.. I wish someone here or in Scandinavia would make them!
Saw a DeSoto badge last summer that was reproduced by George Laurie and it was very nice!
These folks at "Emblemagic" do good work too, and will custom-make badges that they don't already carry. Reliable too.
http://emblemagic.com/
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FIN ME !
Thanks for the tip, it is always a good thing to get tip's of how to find parts,
I belive we are many FL owners, that are on the lookout for parts at all times.
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Location: NY & VT | Thanks Torben! And a Merry Christmas to you and to all here too!
Nothing new for FL stuff, we have been busy working on our new 1966 SAAB 96 2 stoke! that went through the big flood here, we saved it from the crusher.
I have seen the Laurie badges, they are gorgeous... it's the lack of communication I'm concerned about when spending that kind of $$$ for a little plastic badge, it's a lot to spend, especially when you're not absolutely sure how it will go, or how long it will take. |
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Nothing much going on here either. Work has been very busy. Aong with all the extra activity of the Christmas season, it's kept me from doing too much of anything on the cars. Little bit of carb work for my pickup, but that's it. I'm debating about taking a week off in January. Maybe then. I'm thinking that would be a "Me and My '58 vacation"; all the other people and projects demanding my time just wait and I work on something I *want to* rather than *need to* or *have to*. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome and 58Windsor !
Thanks, nice to hear from you.
What is this firedome, are you a bit of a "closet" Saab fan, now you have found a 2 stroke 96 to, fun (same as last time, if you need contacts just say something).
58Windsor I know how you feel, good luck trying to make that holliday a reallity.
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Location: NY & VT | Thanks Torben! Yes, I have been driving SAABS (it is an acronym like BMW, for Svenska Aeroplan AktieBolaget, or Swedish Airplane Corporation, as I'm sure you know!) since August 1971, the month we got married! We have 7 of them in the family now: '66, 77, 84, 87, 99, 99, 01. And looking at a '67 on Tuesday!
But Forward Look cars are my true love, and I will never not have at least one FL, if I can help it!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fellow FL friends !
I hope all of you have had a good New Year, let us hope that 2013 will bring a stop to the world wide krises,
and bring back some optimism, and maby bring us all some new friends on the forum, I hope to hear from
more owners of "Dartline's".
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Location: NY & VT | good sentiments Torben! ... and let's hope all those of us lucky people with '58 Windsors project cars(most of us here, and my Spring Special is sort of a part Dartline) can move ahead in 2013!
One of the hardest parts to find is the black, red & gold Plastic Emblem that is glued to the gold grill emblem, almost always missing or broken and I've never seen one in a junkyard. As mentioned up above Geo Laurie in Australia, makes a nice one, but has a reputation for uneven service. I just got off the phone with Emblemagic, they have made this in the past and will do so again if there's some demand - I'd suggests anyone who may want one contact them at 440- 209-0792 Eastern Time (Ohio) and let them know. They make show quality emblems. Price is not cheap at $200 but it's the car's "jewelry"!! Laurie gets more I believe, and these Emblemagic folks are known to be dependable. He said the lag time for delivery would be over a year, but they would deliver when they say they will when ordered, so there's plenty of time to save up! Any interest??
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
That sound's interesting, I must say that right now i don't have $200 for an emblem,
but if my economi will get back on track, then ok.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Well, I was able to make my vacation a bit of a reality, I did take the time off. And right in the middle of it I was thrown a reality check called the FLU. #$*%@#&@!!!! That just ain't right! haha Oh well, forced me to rest for a change.
Did manage to get some time in on the Windsor. The stock rear axle is now laying in the back of my Roadmaster wagon ready to head to a local shop for teardown. They have the necessary puller for the hubs and I'm going to have them rebuild the centersection. In the meantime I'll be cleaning up the '67 Dodge Monaco c-body housing that'll be replacing the original rear axle. It's 7/8" wider overall which is no issue in our wheelwells. Plan is for the original '58 center section in the '67 housing, using the '67 bolt-in axles. The entire brake assembly including the backing plates is '85 Diplomat police spec 11"x3".
Pin-to-pin distance on my '58 leafs measures out at 45-5/8" vs. the 46" listed in most places as the known perch width. I'm sure I've seen someone else post on the forums about their Windsor's perches being the 45-5/8" too, but I couldn't find it with a search. Perhaps more of the "Dodge" affect on the Windsor, I don't know. I'm going to be tearing down the '67 rear to the bare housing tomorow, or maybe yet later this evening depending how ambitious I feel. Once I have the center section out I'll be able to get a truer measurement of what that housing has for perch width. I expect the 46".
I also got started on tearing down the Diplomat spindles that'll be going into the front of the car. They're being pretty stubborn. I've had to give those nuts & bolts a lot of soaking time with penetrating oil.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58 Windsor !
Sorry that you got sick, but who dosn't at this time of year, but glad to hear that you are working on your "Dartline".
I would love to have the money so I could begin to restore My "Dartline".
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Location: NY & VT | Ya, I'm in the same boat, no $$$ for an emblem right now, I have to concentrate on getting the sheet metal it'll need, like a rear 1/4 on the passenger side, it's the only really bad spot on the car, and nobody reproduces that part! so the "jewelry" will have to wait! But there is a 1 1/2 year lag time, so we have time to save!! He said call in August (2013) to reserve an emblem for Fall 2014... start saving! |
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Actually, I wonder if the one on the HAMB isn't the same one as posted on page four. Looks to include the same pic of the dash, both are missing the grille emblem, and check the fit of the rear bumper to the taillight filler, driver side in particular. Someone is going to get themselves a really nice Windsor! If I didn't have mine I know I'd be thinking about it. As they've shown, you're not going to build it for that price. |
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Location: NY & VT | Truly nutty to spend 35K on a sedan... if they wanted to lose big $ they should have just taken up farming!! |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi d500niel and imopar380 !
Thanks for the pictures of the "Dartline".
I think it might be the same as the one 58Windsor refers to,
but it is nice to know that you think abouth us,
when you see something that might bee of interrest to this thread.
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | firedome - 2013-01-31 1:42 PM
Truly nutty to spend 35K on a sedan... if they wanted to lose big $ they should have just taken up farming!!
HAHAHAHAA!! We did that for years!! Now I pour the money into cars instead! |
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | So they spent more on it than it's generally considered worth. "Value" can -and should- be measured by a lot things outside of money. I'd spend that on mine without a second thought about it. Sentimental value on mine has a couple more zeros on that number easy. Maybe that car brought back good memories of a happy time for the owner and then circumstances suddenly changed forcing a sale. Maybe they just love the style and are fortunate to have enough money to not have to care about a return on investment. I don't know the story behind it, but just because it "isn't worth $35k" doesn't mean it wasn't worth the price in happiness to the seller. If you're in this hobby strictly for the return on investment, you need a different hobby.
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Location: NY & VT | Chill.. if you read my reply on another thread I said if they did it to keep it (ie sentimental reasons) that's another story... anyone can see from what I'm putting into my own '58 Windsor 4 door that I'm sure not into it for investment... just don't tell my wife! LOL |
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | I'm sorry, I didn't mean to come off pissy. Just wanted to make the point about 'value'. The lousy day I'd been having carried into my tone more than I'd realized. No offense meant to anyone. |
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Location: NY & VT | No prob... let's face it we're all nuts over FLs and when it comes to these cars we get passionate... that's why we're here!
I hate to think how much I've lost in this hobby over 40 years... and I'd do it all over in a heartbeat.
But again, don't tell my wife! ;-)
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | You are right firedome !
We are all nuts, we have all spent to much money on these cars, and no,
most of the time we dont regret it, the only thing I regret is thay I couldn't keep them all.
I can't spent all the money I want on these cars eather, but because of bad economi,
not because of my wife, she love's the cars to.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi miguelonbrad !
There might have been a few sold in Canada, but I'm pretty sure that non was build there,
there was never build that many at all.
Abouth the NOS Dartline inserts, dam I would love to have those.
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Location: NY & VT | Hey '58 guys! I got the grille emblem from George Laurie less than 2 weeks from ordering it, and he has them in stock for $172 delivered! EmbleMacig wants $200 + ship and a 1 year or more wait!! My pic doesn't do it justice, it is PERFECT. This has to be the hardest part to find, I have never seen an original one in a junkyard and rarely on a car either, and even then in poor condition!! Get one while you CAN!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Morgan !
Thanks for the pictures and ad for the "Dartline" in North Dakota,
can it be the same that 58Windsor ( Greg) have seen on one of hes trips ?
are you going to look at it Greg ?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | I Sit here and think.
If i had some money, I would start to buy up parts and partcars, for our Windsor / Dartline's,
and if somebody had the space to house them, then make a parts club, where if the members need'ed anything,
they just ask if we had it in stock, then either swap in some new parts or buy it from the club bank.
That way we could help each other get more Windsor / Dartline's on the road again, and we did not always had to
se all the good parts and partcars slip away, and even so if one part was spoken for by an other member,
there would always bee other parts to put in skock, so when the next need'ed something we might have it.
I'm just dreaming, one of the problems for me, is that if I will buy a partscar, it will cost a fortune to ship it here,
and if it is like this 4 dr. sedan, there is only a limited amount of parts that I can use, bacause my car is a 2 dr.,
some of these things could be avoid'ed, if it was done in a club.
Also parts might still be around or replaced in a clubcollection, when I need'ed them or could affort them, because
we where more people to collect them.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | That's what I ment, it's geting harder to find the parts, so when there is something for sale,
it would be nice if it was some of us, who got our hands on it, so we could help each other later,
am i right ?
I don't have the perfekt solution, but maby my idea of a "parts club" isn't to bad.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | 58WindsorDartline - 2013-04-11 3:19 AM Hi Morgan ! Thanks for the pictures and ad for the "Dartline" in North Dakota, can it be the same that 58Windsor ( Greg) have seen on one of hes trips ? are you going to look at it Greg ? Torben I've seen the listing for the car before and it does have me a little scared that it could be one of the two I'm aware of yet. Depending on how much was taken off after pick up... maybe. I'm hoping to get out past that one again soon. I'm setting pretty well between my car and my 2 parts cars. This one doesn't offer me enough beyond what I already have to justify that price for me. I'm willing to go do an in-person inspection and take detailed pictures for anyone who is interested. We should be well into spring already, but they're talking a new foot of snow possibly over this weekend. It may be a while before we'd be able to get a good look at her. I know who the seller is, although we've never met. He has an amazing collection as you can see by his website. Earlier in our thread I mentioned seeing another '58 Windsor in town. It was/is his. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Greg !
Sorry for the late return, do you say that it might be one of the cars,
that you hoped to get your hands on as a parts car.
If you go there I will look forward to hear what you find out.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Greg !
Have you been out looking at the Dartline, if so lets se some pictures, if you took some.
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Do you know if the emblem you bought is the same emblem that is used on the rear license frame of the '57 Chrysler? |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi !
You are right Greg, the grill emblem is bigger than the the one on the licens frame.
Have you been out looking at the parts car that's for sale, Greg ?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fellow FL lovers !
What is happening out there in "Windsor land", has ennyone found or seen somthing good
or maby some off you have attendet something and has taken photo's, so share please.
I know this is not the right place for this, but it looks like nobody reads the Vendor section.
Is there anyone here that knows, if this web. company is ok to deal with, "Classic car autoparts,
in Grand Rapids", i'm trying to find a fuel tank to my sons 1964 Dodge, they have it and the price
is good,but is the company
any good ???
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Location: Perth Australia | I have spoken to them (via email), but not bought from them directly.
No problem with the comunication, but I was just checking on freight prices.
I got a tank for my dodge in Australia, but I think its made from the same people, good tank.
I never said that on your vendor thread as I never bought from them
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Mick !
Thanks for your responce, the reason that I ask is that there is so many svindler's on the internet,
so I would just like to hear that peoble knows of the dealer, before I place an order.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | 58WindsorDartline - 2013-05-24 5:05 AM Hi Greg ! Have you been out looking at the Dartline, if so lets se some pictures, if you took some. Torben I have not. I wasn't intending to go for myself. If someone wants it, I can try to go out and take additional pictures or do an independent review of it's condition, but for myself, I can't justify the cost to my personal needs. I haven't had a chance to check on my other lead either. It seems every time I have an opportunity, I'm running just enough behind schedule and it's just far enough out of my way that I have to leave it for another trip. I have another opportunity coming up again soon... maybe this trip! I won't be heartbroken if it turns out to be the same one. My primary interest in trying to pick up this other lead was simply to keep it out of the hands of a crusher or standard-issue junkyard. If it's at Hernando's, that concern is been met. On the good news side of things, I have the 'new' rear axle housing in place in my '58, new bearings pressed onto the axles, and all the bits & parts pieces of the brakes ready to assemble. Next opportunity in the garage I can work towards assembly. That may be weeks out, but it feels like progress at least. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Just for future reference, once the Evilpay takes down the auction site on those side trim pieces, above, they
sold for a VERY reasonable price of $135.00 .
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi d500neil !
That is a very reasonable price, I'm sad that I didt'n have the money for it right now,
but at least we know that it went to a fellow Dartline owner, noboddy else can use them, right !!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Ok, then I did not understand it right, I belived that they were sold at $135.
Dam if I only had the money !
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
Great spotting, I don't belive we have seen this before, what state is the ad from ?
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Location: NY & VT | Torben, the Craigslist ad is from Grand Junction Colorado, so it's probably a very solid Western car if it is originally from there. It's complete and in cool Copper color, the chrome looks decent, a very good buy for the price I'd say! The link is still active... someone save this car!!
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Location: Perth Australia | That car is only 1000 bucks
Wish I could find these cars around here for that cheap
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Somebody go get it, it can't be me: "WILL NOT DEAL WITH ANYONE IN THE DAKOTA'S NORTH OR SOUTH." Wonder what got him so wound up to disallow two whole states?
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Location: bishop, ca | ...Probably(??) because the Dakotans will turn it and/or part it out, and the owner would like to see the car get restored?
A lot of Northeastern-World types have visited the Dakotas to buy vehicles or to chop off their rear ends,
and this seller may not like the idea that someone, nearby, could make a good profit on his $1K sales price on the car.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | And someone from Montana or Nebraska or etc couldn't do it too? I'm not in the market anyway; no affect on me other than being insulted. hahaha
On the good news side of things, I was able to verify one of the two I'm aware of is still there. Time to give him a call back to see if he's ready to let go of it yet. |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | miquelonbrad - 2013-02-24 6:17 PM
Does anyone know if the "Dartline" or Spring Special models were produced and sold in Canada too? I've never seen one here...
No Dartline models were built or sold in Canada. Remember the US-built 1958 Chrysler Windsor used the Chrysler (not Dodge) body mated to the Dodge chassis, Dodge sedan front doors and modified Dodge front end clip. The Canadian-built 1958 (and 1957) Windsor was a Saratoga with Windsor nameplates.
For the various "Spring Specials", Chrysler of Canada built the 1958 Plaze / Crusader version, the 1958 Custom Royal version but not the 1959 Dodge Coronet as Coronets were not built in Canada.
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Location: NY & VT | How did the '58 Winsdor Chrysler body differ from the Dodge body? Other than the obviously different exterior sheet metal that is.
Did the 4 dr hardtop also use Dodge front doors?
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Location: bishop, ca | Well, at the very-worst, you can part it out.
Is there stainless trim along its rocker panel?
Anyone who already has spare Unobtanium parts for his car could 'name' his price for them, for an insurance-damage
claim situation.
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Location: NY & VT | <<<----- For this '58 Windsor, I can use a good grille and passenger side back-up lens if good (no big cracks)... PM sent ...please advise and thanks!
Torben on here has a '58 Dartline and might be able to use some of the special trim for that model, I'll PM him to let him know.
Like that color! Might use that on mine, which is now boring metallic beige-brown, but rust-free from New Mexico.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fellow FL fans !
Nice to see that the thread is still alive, I have been out due to health for 6 mounth, so I have not been on here since.
Welcome to 61 imp, nice of you to drop in, and the Dartline you have found it looks as a good project or good parts car,
almost to good, what is your plans with it ? let us hear more and maby see more pictures, we would also like to se your
'57 Dodge.
To firedome, thanks for the PM.
Happy New Year to all.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
You are right, none of us are getting younger, but it is funny, in our head we are not getting older neither.
My health is luckly not life thread'ning, I just have problems with my back, knees, elbowes and shoulders, and
it can not be cured, so working is a problem, that is frustrating but beside that Im ok.
A big problem is what that do to our economy, I can just hope for the best regarding that, It is not easy to love
cars, wanting to restore them and have no money for it, that is where my problem is right now, if I had the money
there where so many cars and parts to buy, just in the larst year, dam I hope to get back on track soon.
In the men while let's enjoy the good furtune, of the one's lucky enough to get the cars and parts for their dream.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi all FL friends !
How is winther treating you, are you abel to work on your FL cars,
or are you just waiting for spring to come.
Let's se some pictures of your projects.
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Hi to you, Torben!
When my car gets back from the blockers, it will get new paint and improved bright work for the spring. I'll post some pic's eventually.
Hope you're feeling better!
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Location: NY & VT | Welcome back Torben! That grille and hood ornament from the Bimini Blue car above that 61imp posted are now sitting in my office!
If it would only warm up so I could work on my car... feeling OK and getting antsy for Spring! |
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Location: The Republic of Texas | The more I thought I knew the more I realize I didn't know after all. So did all '58 Windsors have the same front end and was Dartline the name is this particular Windsor trim option? Would my Windsor be known as a "Windsor Sweep", since it came with the sweep trim? Does anybody have a source for information that explains all this? |
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Location: The Republic of Texas | d500neil - 2014-02-03 4:44 PM
Hey, George; have you posted-up pics of your ride, yet?
Hey Neil, yes it's under my 58 Chrysler in this section. |
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Location: NY & VT | All '58 Windsors have the same Dodge derived front end, all parts including hood and fenders are different from NYer/Saratoga, except for turn signals, grille badge, and the lower bumper I believe. Early models have unpainted aluminum headlight doors, after about Feb or March all Windsor headlight doors were dark charcoal, almost black. The Sweep rear side trim was an option, a single plain strip from taillight to rear of front wheel opening was standard on most Windsors, the 2 dr hardtop in the brochure has the Sweep, and other ones I've seen had it, but I have seen a 2 and 4 dr hrdtp Windsors with the single strip and I've even seen a Saratoga 2 dr hardtop with a single strip and no painted insert!!
If yours had the Sweep it was a regular Windsor 2 dr hardtop not a Dartline, all Dartline models by definition had the specific Dartline side trim and also the separate "Special Chrome Molding Trim Package" a Spring Special promotion avail on ALL models of Chrysler where they tried to jazz up the trim with extra brightwork to stimulate sales. 4 Dr sedans didn't get the wide roof rail trim, only 2/4 dr hardtops, but sedans had the rest of the added chrome (stainless). Dartline side was avail on all Windsors, with or without the SCMTP, evidently, and the latter could also be ordered on regular Windsors with or without Sweeps after about Feb/Mar, that's what my 4 dr hrdtp has. All Windsors were build at the Detroit Jeff. Ave. or LA Dodge plants.
You can see the origin of the Dartline trim when looking at the standard single strip trim design, they retained the stock piece from the rear quarter (& the rear door on 4 dr models), then all they to do was modify the front door piece to branch up to the new front fender piece, add the silver insert and the front fender piece, they could even re-use the short lower piece that went up to the rear of the wheel opening as the lower piece. That probably accounts for the somewhat awkward design of the Dartline trim, particularly the odd concave shape of that front fender silver insert with the 3 gold crowns on it.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FIN ME, firedome, d500neil and GSP392 !
Nice to hear from you all and thanks for your concern, beside fighting the system, I'm as good as I get,
it is just my back, knee and arms that gives me some troubles.
I look froward to se your pictures FIN ME, and just like you guys I look forward to springtime, I miss
the sound of my V8.
D500neil thanks for shearing the Dartline with us, I don't think we have seen Duncan's Dartline here before,
do you think he will tell us a litle abouth it ?, if he doesn't follow this thread, will you then ask him ?.
GSP392 if you want to se what makes a Dartline and what makes the spring special moulding, I have put
up a picture of the dealer brochure for these thing, on this thread, I just don't know the exact page.
Good to hear from you all !
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Location: The Republic of Texas | 58WindsorDartline - 2014-02-13 5:46 AM
Hi GSP392 I have just found the springtime dealer brochure, it is at page 3
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Location: NY & VT | Interesting - silver headlight doors are not typical, also black and gold engine, has been repainted or rebuilt, should be all silver. Missing hard to find pass front fender Dartline trim, but the Bimini Blue parts car above has it. Decent carpet & the steering wheel is nice, but where is the front seat? 12,400E is, what, about $15,000?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Adventure 60 !
Welcome the the thread, and thanks for the hint abouth the Dartline
for sale in Finland.
I think it might be the 2 dr.ht. Dartline we alredy know of in Finland,
Dam I would like to have it, it is around $ 16.500, it would be a good
suplement to my 2 dr.ht. Dartline.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi all of you !
Spring is on it's way, are you getting ready out there, how abouth you firdome have you solved your problems so you can keep your Windsor,
I realy hope so!, let us see some pictures of your cars and the preperations your making.
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Location: NY & VT | Thanks Torben, been feeling OK, and during this long winter got a grille and hood ornament from the blue car (up top of this page), and also snagged a NOS back-up lens (rare!!) from ePay, one of the last trim parts I needed... so if it would just warm up now so Windsor SS work can begin!
I'm hoping to have a local body guy graft on the new rear fender from California, if he ever gets his insurance/collision workload reduced, from this bloody snowy winter!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
Great to hear that you feel better, I look forward to se pictures of the cars when you get them ready.
My plans for my Dartline this year is a little blury, I am trying to se if I can get in touch with the owner, of the Finish Dartline that is for sale,
but so fare no luck, so if annybody knows him, let me know.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Adventurer 60 !
You are from Findland, do you know if the Finish Dartline is sold, and if not, can you perhaps translate the ad.
I don't get any sense out of it, not even if i use google translate.
Maby he has a mail or a phone number, or if you know him, send me a PM.
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I think its gone to new owner. So much done already and a very fair prise.
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Thanks for trying, I would have loved to talk with the owner.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Neil !
Good spotting, I have never made that connection either, and I have own a Wildcat, but not a 1963.
I had a 1966 Wildcat Convertible with a 401 Nailhed, it was a nice car and even thoe it was pretty heavy,
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(That worked out GOOD..!)
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Let's try this...
(That worked out GOOD..!)
can't I get some credit for the article, I mean after all it came out of my album.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi GSP392 !
Thanks for sharing the article, I have never seen that before, where is it from ? I have to find one for my collection to,
after all I own one,
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Location: The Republic of Texas | 58WindsorDartline - 2014-04-24 3:12 PM
Hi GSP392 !
Thanks for sharing the article, I have never seen that before, where is it from ? I have to find one for my collection to,
after all I own one,
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You're welcome Torben. It's one I found on ebay. I bought it to help clarify the whole "Dartline" issue, which it did I guess. I'm not sure the correct trim option name for mine. I'll just call it "sweep" unitl I hear otherwise.
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Location: NY & VT | Tad Burness's Auto Album was a feature in some US newpapers for many years, starting in around the mid-late 70s. This is a clipping or reproduction from a newspaper. He also complied the American Car Spotters Guides, I have the 1940-65 one. They are compilations of old ads and factory pics, with some of the car's data hand written on them, as above. These were done at a time when very little was being written or published about '50s cars. He was sort of a pioneer in that respect. There is another cool book called "Real Steel" that was also early in covering the '50s. Some of these early books can be found on Amazon or eBay.
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Location: Ocala, Florida | I have seen a photo of Dartline trim on a 58 Chrysler wagon. Anyone have any photos of one as I cant seem to find any? |
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Location: bishop, ca | y'all might keep your evilpay-eyes out for this postcard:
To facilitate your search, Jim Hoek advises that is PC is taken of/at:
Sauzer's Waffle Shop in Schererville, Indiana
...This is potentially not a bad piece of artwork, if you crop-out the Olds, at the far left, and closely crop
the Fartster, on the right, plus photo-chop out the overhead wires, and closely crop/chop out the roadway
markings in the foreground.
You probably should chop, too, that rooftop chimney structure, to clean-up the final image.
And, if you are really creative, you (or, a commercial techno-nerd) could replace the F-word with a rear end view
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Location: NY & VT | Thanks for the pics Neil! BTW the color on that Dartline above is the same Sandalwood Metallic color on my '58... booorrring! It will be changed to something more period typical... ie something a bit more flashy! |
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Location: bishop, ca | Roger, do what you must, but Sandalwood Metallic, if new/fresh, is NOT 'boring', and is certainly era-typical!
Put a white top on it, for interior (and exterior!) Koolness, but, that color is very harmonious (not 'boring') with the chrome/stainless trim
on the car, and, with the Sky-High roof on it.
Sandalwood (and white/black) is Olde money; red/blue colors are NEW money....and the car will get confused with all the Chubbies out there.
The General Public will not have previously seen Sandalwood, and will be attracted to it, as it stands out from the other hot-rods.
Red/Blue: "What year Chubbie is that thing"?
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Location: Ocala, Florida | I must say that sandalwood would look mighty nice on my plaza! I'm going to look into that very nice. |
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Location: NY & VT | So what's the color for "No Money"? LOL!
Sandalwood is just too blah imo, one can get very similar colors on brand new cars today!
I want a color that would be found only on a late '50s car.
And it wouldn't be red or blue either, no offense, Horrie.
My Windsor/Dodge does have the original white top and sweep insert.
I'm leaning towards painting the Sandalwood areas Shell Pink, a correct '58 Chrysler color, and not seen on too many Chebbies or Ferds last time I looked.
My Scoutmaster had a '57 Saratoga 4 dr hardtop in Shell Pink/Cloud White, and I've loved that color combo on Chryslers ever since!
Sandalwood wouldn't look bad on a Plaza or Savoy sedan, perhaps, a more understated car.
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y'all might keep your evilpay-eyes out for this postcard:
To facilitate your search, Jim Hoek advises that is PC is taken of/at:
Sauzer's Waffle Shop in Schererville, Indiana
...This is potentially not a bad piece of artwork, if you crop-out the Olds, at the far left, and closely crop
the Fartster, on the right, plus photo-chop out the overhead wires, and closely crop/chop out the roadway
markings in the foreground.
You probably should chop, too, that rooftop chimney structure, to clean-up the final image.
And, if you are really creative, you (or, a commercial techno-nerd) could replace the F-word with a rear end view
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Location: bishop, ca | My ride's a natural (not bottle-) blonde; no offense taken.
Yeah, those trunk moldings are a part of the Spring Special package....that's how I spotted the car, in the initial posting of the PC, over
on our GEN DISC's "Photographs" message board.
About the only color that is typically-uniquely 50's is "Sea Foam F-word Green"; even Pink might be associated with a woman named "M. Kaye".
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Location: NY & VT | Those Kaye-Cars were special order though, never factory, and pink was only factory available up to '62 or thereabouts, and only Caddies at the end. Pink, Salmon, Pale Lavender, Sea-Foam Green and Aqua/Turquoise were pretty much exclusively from 1955 or so, maybe up to early '60s, the peak era of automobile-dom, and never since! Whereas just this afternoon I saw a new-ish Corolla in a shade very close to Sandalwood...so not to be on my '58! It will have a '58 Chrysler color though.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi All !
Nice to see that you have keept the thread alive, I have not been in here for a while, so I'm glade.
To "The Chrysler Kid" I have never seen or even heard of a "Dartline" Wagon, so I think it must be home made, but it would be fun to see.
GSP392 If you look early'er in this thread, you will find the original confidential "dealer only" brochure, that I have put in here, it will tell you
exactly what the "Dartline" model is, and what Spring options was abel to buy on the other models.
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Location: The Republic of Texas | Thanks Torben, I'll keep looking through the thread and see if I can find any information of the paint divider "sweep" trim option. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi GSP392 !
I'm a bit confused, when i look at your pictures of partcars, is Your Windsor a 1957 or a 1958, because they are 2 different cars, the '57 is a Chrysler all the way,
but the '58 is build on a Dodge frame, and use even some body parts from the Dodge, so if it is a 1957 then you probberly have to find material from 1957, because the
"Dartline" was only build in 1958, so the "Dartline" brochure will only show the trim options for spring 1958.
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Location: The Republic of Texas | Hi Torben,
The car which I plan to restore is a '58 Windsor 2 door hardtop. It doesn't have the "Dartline" trim option, instead it has the paint divider "sweep" trim option.
I also have a '57 Windsor 4 door sedan parts car. I'm going to use the '57 side trim because I like it better than the '58. I also like '57 tail lights better than '58. I know the '57 and '58 Windsor don't share the same sheet metal for the front, but I got a deal on the '57 and there aren't many to choose from anymore so I got what I could find. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Ok that explane's the '57.
I must admit, I like the '57 tail light better to, but if I ever get around to restore my "Dartline",
I will proberly keep it original.
I know it is hard to find parts, I just hope there will be some left to me.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL friends !
Have you all had a good summer, have you found any good things, Parts or cars ?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi to all of you FL friends !
How has your summer been.
Has enyone had some good luck, found a car some parts or something else of interesse to us,
then do share please !!!
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Location: The Republic of Texas | Hi Torben, my summer has been productive. The biggest gain in parts for me are from the '57 Imperial that I got earlier this summer. I also scored a few '30s era Ford flathead V8s. I hope you had a good summer too. |
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Location: NY & VT | Thanks for the good thoughts Torben!
It was a good summer, but not much accomplished on the Windsor Spring Special lately. Need to order a new gas tank sender and put the tank back in, then she will be ready for a trial start-up to see if she will run after 20 years sitting in New Mexico! We have just about every part needed to finish her, except seat covers and dash pad... not much was missing. Had to find 1 back up lens, a straighter grille, hood ornament, and the repro'd grille emblem... all done. Bought some front end parts just in case. I need to get 3 or 4 pcs of stainless straightened and polished. I will run her in original sun-faded paint for awhile, the only body work needed is the R R 1/4 panel only, due to an accident early in the car's life and a leak, the rest is dry Southwest awesome and original. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi GSP392 and firedome !
I have had the best summer in a lot of years in Denmark, so we have enjoy'ed our '59 Spectator,
and the company of our son with his '64 Dodge 440 and daugther with both there partners.
Good to hear that you both have had a good summer to, and that you got some luck in the parts department,
beside beeing productive.
I have not found anything for my Dartline, and I need a lot, the worst is that I need the entire right rear back fender.
and my Spectator is in need of a little rust work and a few new parts, but still runs good.
We have a little work on the Spectator and my sons 440 this winther, but not so much that it kill's my mood,
hope you all will fill this thread with your storys, pictures and finds, and of caurse any new info abouth other Dartline's,
so we all can enjoy it.
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Location: bishop, ca | OK; it's September; you Nordic-types can now go get back inside your garages and get some WORK done, on your cars!
BTW, the temperature out here, is in the 90's F/34 C.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi d500neil !
I'm glad it's not that hot here, we are down to around half, maby a little more, but it is still nice.
I like it best when it is around 25 C., but you must be use to it living there, so it can not be a problem for you.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Exciting News Dartline fans! Another '58 Dartline has turned up. And ... it's up for sale! A friend of mine drives a delivery route and spotted it the other day. He sent me this picture from his cellphone. He didn't have time to check it out more, but asked a car-guy at one of his stops if he knew anything on it. He was told it was supposed to run & drive, the owner/dealer's name is Richard, and they thought the asking price was around $4k. Remember, that's all about third- or fourth-hand info. Sorry, I don't have any other details. It's about an 1-1/2hour drive from me. I'd love to run out and check it out in person, but I just don't have the time right now. There is a phone number visible on the sign, but it's different than the one my friend gave me. He had 701-290-6500. One of us Dartline lovers need to give her a good home! If you find out more, please fill us in. 
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Location: NY & VT | Looks like a very decent car!
One thing I must say about '58 Windsors in general, they sure had a cheesy looking and flimsy stamped grille, so cheap looking compared to the classy extruded or cast aluminum grille on '57s... wish my '58 had the '57 grille. And you will almost never see one with the original black plastic center insert in that gold grill emblem. |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi 58 Windsor !
Say thanks for the spotting to your friend, the car dosn't look bad, it could be interesting to hear more abouth it, maby se some pictures,
you are right, some of us should pick it up, either to drive it, or if it's not as good as it looks, then for parts.
firedome, yes the grill is a bit cheep, but overall I like the front, in the beginning I also liked the 57 better, but I'm not sure anymore.
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Location: NY & VT | You can see in the pic of that Dartline that it had the dark painted headlight surrounds, most has faded but you can still see it at the upper part of the headlight "door" where the "eyebrow" protected it. I think all Dartline's had the darker paint whereas earlier versions were painted silver to match the grille. My Windsor "Sweep" version has the dark surrounds also, along with full Spring Special trim.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
You might be right about the headlight surrounds but, if you look at the spring brochure that I posted, it dosn't mentions anything about it,
so I'm not sure.
Yes the material they used on the grill is easy to dent and bend, I need a new one, my grill is damage from a side impact.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Yes shipping will be expensive, but it sound's interresting Roger, what do you want for it ?
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see the 57's as a little too much of a good thing and the 58's as being more tasteful, especially when
lit up. The 57's are just a giant red "rabbit's ear", while the smaller 58 lens fills the fin cavity with a
soft red glow like a halo. I only wish they had not rounded off the sharp top edge of the bezel in 58.
Another nice touch of the 58 is the side profile emphasizes the overswept fin tip even more than the
57.
Maybe it is from my lifetime as a carpenter, but am I the only one who looks at the Dartline sidetrim
and sees two lines (saw cuts) coming from opposite ends and missing each other ???
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Doc. !
No you are quite right it looks like a miss, maby the designer was desturbed when he was drawing the line,
and when he came back he was late to the deadline, and starting from the other end, it just had to go wrong.
But just like the taillight, I think it grows on you, I love it, if not for anything else then for being different.
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Location: NY & VT | Did ya'll see this Dartline from another thread? Painted same color as mine, solid unrestored 4 dr post sedan. Note the dark headlight doors and full Spring Special trim.
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/4711914766.html
Can anyone put the pic here for posterity?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Year I have seen it !
This fellow has a s**t load of FL cars fore sale, but his prices is quite high on most of the cars,
I have found a couple that I would like to own.
I keep pictures of all the Dartline cars we find, so I can make a list of all of them,
and put it on here, but I haven't had the time to finish it yet.
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Note the license plate. Lest my crappy eyes are deceiving me, that looks to be a "Peace Garden State" plate. North Dakota car now relocated to Texas sounds like a member of the Hernando's Hide-a-way collection. He headed for the drier, salt-free cilmate earlier this year. This car ran around my area a couple of summers ago. Got me in trouble with some friends who were major P.O.'d that I'd gotten mine on the road and hadn't told them! hahaha I wondered if he'd taken it with him or sold it locally before leaving. I won't say I'm happy to see it left, but it'll survive better there - and let mine be more unique here.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Greg !
Good spotted with the license plate, that means tha we now have the pictures of that Nort Dakota car,
and that we now know that it ain't in North Dakota anymore.
Year it is always nice to have something a bit different, thats why I fell for Mopar in the first place,
and why I can't get my self to sell my Dartline, eventhoe the restoration looks like it will take forever
to happen and be way to expensive for me, but I love that car.
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All I got done this year was to get a couple more parts I need,
my health is not getting any better, and now it's too cold.
Next year I must get serious about getting back to work!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL lovers !
Sorry that I have been off so long, but have had to much on my mind.
Firedome ! I'm so sorry to se that you had to let your Windsor go,
but I hope it have made your life a little less complicated, I will send you a PM
one of the days soon.
I will try to bee a little more activ again
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Location: NY & VT | Yes it was sold to a nice fellow in Sweden, no one in the US would step up, just a lot of BS and hot air.
I will miss it a lot, but found a '58 Olds I like and that needs less work to get on the road as I can't work on them much anymore and I want to be able to enjoy it.
I'll still hang out here at times because I still love FL cars, and if I can afford one someday I'd still love to have a '57 Dodge 4 dr hardtop just like my Grandpa had!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi firedome !
I will look for it in Sweden, if I come there again, hope you will be abel to enjoy your '58 Olds insted.
Glad that you still want to hang around.
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Location: Finland | Greetins from Finland!
I am the owner of the "suomi dartline" since 2013 autumn. I bought if from the gentleman who brought it from USA.
Car is in driving condition atm with original paten. 354 Spitfire engine has new bearings, pistons and one cylinder tube, heads are machined with new valves. Transmission has been restored aswell. I also mounted SSBC disc brakes on front axle since original shoe retainers prings were "dead" and couldnt find new ones"
I have been driving with it in the summertime allmost daily since 2014 (not from home to work but on free time :D).
Thanks for great thread to all writers
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I have the missing trims to pasengers side. I can post later some pics about the engine and interior incase someone is interested in!
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Thanks for the photos of your great car, Dart-Pete! It is looking great!
Please post more photos when you can; we love pic's!
Congratulations on your very cool ride.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Dart-Pete !
Welcome to our thread, nice to hear from you, are your Dartline the one from Finland showen early in this thread ?
if so nice to finely hear from you, and the car looks good.
You write that you have had it since 2013, was there then another Dartline for sale in Finland, you can read abouth
my request for help finding the seller, early'er in this thread, I was trying to find him, and maby buy it, because My
Dartline need a LOT of work, so I was trying to cut some corners.
Your pictures are nice and we will love to se more, that also aplay for the rest of you.
And to GSP392, Wizard and FIN ME, thanks for making him feel welcome, when I was not on the thread for a while.
We have finely got some summer weather in Denmark, so we are getting some miles on our Mopars, hope you all are enjoying
them too, we will love to se some photos of it.
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Here are some more pictures i took with my phone so they are not the best quality... :D
Those wires running on cabin floor are for electric fuelpump and for starter solenoid until i get original ones working.
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Location: bishop, ca | A 2-dr HT DARTLINE!
It's the first 2-door, that I think we've seen, to date.
There probably were a few convertible models built, too.
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Dart-Pete !
Very nice pictures, keep them comming, that goes for the rest of you too, lets see some pictures of your projects,
of trips with your Windsor / Windsor Dartline or what ever you drive, parts you have found, or maby want to sell.
To d500neil ! Either you are jokeing, or your memory playes with you, ,
untill now I have registreted 19 Dartline's on this thread, and 9 of them are 2 dr.ht., most of them are showen
early'er in this thread, and I begane by showing Mine.
Regarding a Convertible, no there have never been build a Dartline Convertible, officialy they never build a Convertible
Windsor in 1958, but I think I remember having read somewere, that 3 might have been build for show.
Hope you still have some indiansummer out there, we have had the worst summer since 1925 ( I think it was ), so we have
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fellow FL fans !
Well the season is unfortunately over here in Denmark, it has been a rather bad summer, and the number of trips in my Mopar,
have been limited, so I fear that it is going to feel like the winter will be even longer than usual.
I hope that you have had a better season than us, maby some of you are even able to enjoy your Mopar through the winter,
dam'it I am envious.
Let us se some photos of your summer trips, parts or car findings, or what ever you think we will enjoy to se, in the
dark winter hours, when we dream of getting our Mopar's out rolling again.
Torben
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Location: NY & VT | It was a nicer than average summer here in NY, Aug and Sept and much of October so far practically rain-free!
Unfortunately my '58 Windsor is now in Sweden, and the new owner already had it for sale!
It makes me wish that I hadn't sold it, but I can't work on cars anymore, and I can't afford for someone else to do it for me, so not a lot of choice.
Hopefully our winter won't be as bad as the last 2, but they are always too long... keep warm!! |
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi all !
Once again it is a while since I last was here on the thread, but I have had a lot of thing to fight, and it is taking a lot of
time, and a lot of energy, but I will pop up every now and then, I hope you will do the same.
Hi firedome !, yes it is sad that the Swedish buyer already is selling, I have a feeling that was his plane from the start,
but maby the next buyer will tresure it, if you had kept it, you would just have been sad that you couldn't work on it,
have you at least enjoy'ed your Olds ?.
I'm glade that you had a better summer than us, and I hope too that the winther will not be to hard and long.
Hi RDP ! nice ads you have found on Dartline's, that gives me somthing new to hunt for, I don't remember if
I have the one at top, but I'm pretty sure that I don't have the one at the bottom, so I have to find them.
Torben
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Location: Mandan, North Dakota | Hi All
Been quite a while since I've been on. At least it feels that way! Not much to report on here. Been busy with work/house/family/driver repairs; y'know, the usual keep-you-from-the-project-car stuff. Wrapped up a looooong term engine/trans project on my beater pickup and have that out of the garage finally. That let me slide the '58 back into the work bay. I'm picking back up now on the brake work I'd started a few years back. I had the '68 Monaco rear axle in place with the rebuilt center section. I dropped the new correct backing plates in to soak tonight. Once those are cleaned up I'll be ready to finish off the rear assembly. With that close to wrapping up, I started scraping the years of grease and mud off the bolts on the front suspension so I can move on to it next. I have most of the pieces for a Diplomat spindle swap ready to go. I'm going to need all the rubber though before I can reassemble it.
My goal is to have it road ready in March. That'll be our 10th wedding anniversary and thus also the 10th anniversary of getting it back (wedding gift). Considering how slow things can go, I'm nervous I'll be able to pull it off. In addition to the brakes I have a couple of transmission issues (bad leak, cable adjustment), a very leaky power steering system (haven't tried tracking it down yet), and a charging issue. I have some great friends with a lot of years experience though, so still hopeful. I'm thinking a couple of" Pizza, Pop, & Parts" parties should move things along.
I'll try to do regular updates. Wish me luck!
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| um pics? ??? you can't post an update without pics
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Dartline friends !
It is a long time since I last wrote anything on our thread, I have had to much on my plate,
hope you all are well.
A "new" Dartline has emerged, a 4 dr. and it is up for sale, hope it goes to a good home, and
that the owner maby will be active on our thread.
Has anything happend here in 2016 ???
"58WindsorDartline"
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Location: NY & VT | Hi Torben:
Do you have a link to the ad for it? Like to see pics.... hope you are well as well!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi All !
I wrote the owner of the latest Dartline, and ask'ed if he was ok with me adding him to the list of Dartline's,
He just wrote back, that will like to be part of our thread, so I will ask him to put some pictures up here.
Thanks John, I'm a bit worse, but still fighting, I'm lucky that my health problems is not lethal, it is just my,
ability to do labor with lift and turns, so if I was a horse I would have been shot :). how about you and your healt,
are you ok, and are you still abel to enjoy your car's ?
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check out "cars for sale".
John (BigM) has a 58 Dartline 2dr For sale
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi fc7 plumcrazy !
Thanks for your message, it is always good when somebody give us a hint on new cars,
this car i knew about, I'm talking with John about it.
Where are you from Carsten, are you from Scandinavia like me ?
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi FL fans !
Are all My "Dartline" friends still out there ? , I have not been in here fore 3½ year, do to many things,
but now I am curious to see if there still is someone in here, who a working / driving there "Dartline",
Please let me see and here from you.
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Location: NY & VT | Hi Torben - good to hear from you, long time!
Do you still have your '58 and how are you faring?
I've sold my '58 Windsor and other FL cars for now, but am sort of looking for a '57 Dodge 4 dr hardtop like my Grandfather had from new.
Take care!
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Location: Hinnerup, Jylland (Jutland), Denmark | Hi Roger !
Good to hear from you to, and yes it is a very long time !
I do still have my 58 Windsor, but no, I still have not been able to do anything to it.
I also have My 59 Spectator, it is not running right now do to a brake problem, but thats all..
I know you sold the Windsor, but I'm glad you still think of getting another Mopar .
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Location: NY & VT | Yes, I'd love to find a '57 Dodge 4 dr hardtop, my Grandfather bought one new, a warm gray and charcoal 2 tone 4 dr hardtop, and that's the FL car that got me interested in them in the first place.
I have a '69 Olds Cutlass Holiday 4 dr hardtop now, it's a nice size and a great looking, running, and driving car, but I'll always have a soft spot for '57 and '58 Mopars of all kinds!
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