Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD
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Posted 2010-12-16 5:24 PM (#253529)
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I have started modeling my '59 Dodge. I have the technology, the know-how, some time for do this, and last but not least - the authentic car in my home.

In Internet I found some other models, some of them very nice, but most from drawings or pictures, therefore not exact and looking artificially. I would like to do it perfect, as my car, with the correct dimensions, and in real-view technology. This designs could as well be used for direct tooling and professional reproduction.

 This will take some time, and one day hopefully, the '59 Dodge will stay here like an Original!

 The first problem is to get the correct dimensions, curves and shapes. The next problem is to put these original "hand-designed" data geometrically in the system. What remains is puzzle. I will start with the more complex chrome parts, emblems, and then go on to the body. All the pictures shown here will be unexpectionally 3D-Cad Designs.

May-be there are Members with the similar potential in supporting this objective, using SolidWorks, or does some parts have already been designed?





(01 CAD 1959 HubCap Front1.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 HubCap Front2.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear1.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear2.jpg)



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Attachments 04 CAD 1959 HubCap Rear2.jpg (54KB - 253 downloads)
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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-16 5:35 PM (#253531 - in reply to #253529)
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I wish you the best of luck.

That would really be hard to do. Be good if you could use a laser or microwave or something like that (like a surveyeyer uses) to sort of slice the car up didgitally.

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Posted 2010-12-17 1:47 AM (#253561 - in reply to #253529)
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This, is hard-core dedication!! Amazing Serge!
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-12-17 6:09 AM (#253569 - in reply to #253529)
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sermey - 2010-12-16 5:24 PM

All the pictures shown here will be unexpectionally 3D-Cad Designs.



Wow, I didn't expect that, but I'm sure they will be of exceptional quality!

How many hours have you spent on the hubcap already?
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Posted 2010-12-17 6:19 AM (#253571 - in reply to #253569)
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This kind of thing will make reproduction of parts easy.
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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-20 8:15 AM (#253898 - in reply to #253529)
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How does it do it? The first one has reflections in it. I thought it was all measurement based or something. I have to admit to knowing nothing about CAD

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Posted 2010-12-20 10:01 PM (#253992 - in reply to #253529)
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And someday they'll make a machine to produce a car from the CAD data. One part down, a few more to go. Looking good!
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Posted 2010-12-21 12:04 AM (#253998 - in reply to #253529)
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Very cool. When complete, please share your cad file with us. I would love for my office to add a '59 Dodge to our architectural renderings. (might help distract the viewer from any bad architecture!)
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sermey
Posted 2010-12-21 12:22 PM (#254060 - in reply to #253531)
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ttotired: Be good if you could use a laser or microwave . . .  

Just for have it in 3D could work for some parts (not for a HubCap as shown), similar to a scanned photo. Have a look at parts being reproduced with Originals as Master, most of them visibla as Copy and not as not as Original.
To copy, as I do here, is not creative at all. But but the way, the tool and the stunning results are a challenge for the brain.and as well an enjoyment.

ttotired: The first one has reflections in it . . .

Scenes and material can be assigned to the model. Here I used "warm kitchen" for remove the technical aspect, and "polished chrome" for an Original look.

The rear side is matt with no reflections, as the Original HubCap.(material could be stone, rubber, wood, or whatever).

1956DeS:  And someday they'll make a machine to produce a car from the CAD data.

I think may-be  .. in 50 years? But in reduced size as did Cadi with one of there cars, and with other Engine/Suspension and Electronics. But overall looking exact same!

And these files can be used for direct tooling (without dimensions, or direct sampling with Stereo-Lithography)

slimwhitman:  . . . please share your cad file with us.  . .

With eDrawing (free download), the parts can be viewed. rotated, zoomed and as well automatic displayed in various views as for show.


Wizard: Thank you for the encouragement!- SERGE -



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sermey
Posted 2010-12-21 1:06 PM (#254065 - in reply to #253529)
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Here is just one HeadLamp Ring. The other can simply be mirrored as many other Car Parts to come.
Who is owner of a 1959 Dodge can easy compare this design with the Original. There are minor differences from one part to the other, even the rings are not exactly round.

Here I did it "correct"!  (All pictures shown are PrintScreens and reduced in Size)



Edited by sermey 2010-12-21 1:11 PM




(01 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Front.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Rear.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Center.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Mounts.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Front.jpg (66KB - 280 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Rear.jpg (56KB - 287 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Center.jpg (61KB - 304 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 HeadLamp Ring Mounts.jpg (46KB - 286 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-12-21 2:14 PM (#254072 - in reply to #253529)
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As an owner now of a '59 Dodge in parts I will be comparing your work against the real deal...

Here's my 'rendering' of parts...



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Posted 2010-12-21 6:11 PM (#254094 - in reply to #253529)
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Sermey

I downloaded eDraw so now I will play with it to see how it works.

Hats off to you!!!

Mick
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sermey
Posted 2010-12-22 4:48 AM (#254130 - in reply to #254094)
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ttotired - 2010-12-22 12:11 AM Sermey I downloaded eDraw so now I will play with it to see how it works. Hats off to you!!! Mick

I put you an eDrawing File with the Coil Support as shown in "My Electronic Ignition Conversion". The downloaded eDrawing doesn't support RealView, thus no reflective Chrome . For this you will need the professional version (not free). Anyway, everyone here, I recommend,  can check this tool to get a feeling what is real 3D-CAD, and look how it works  - amazing to play with. - SERGE -



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sermey
Posted 2010-12-22 4:57 AM (#254131 - in reply to #254072)
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BigBlockMopar - 2010-12-21 8:14 PM As an owner now of a '59 Dodge in parts I will be comparing your work against the real deal... Here's my 'rendering' of parts...

Impressive all these nice rechromed parts. You will enjoy mounting them as I did some years ago. Now I will enjoy as well when assembling my CAD-Parts. The difference, I will keep clean hands and drink my coffee simultaneously. - SERGE -   :laugh:



Edited by sermey 2010-12-22 11:48 AM
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ttotired
Posted 2010-12-22 6:30 AM (#254133 - in reply to #253529)
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Thats cool, love it. I should try to learn it one day, could help me with my work

Thanks

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sermey
Posted 2010-12-22 10:54 AM (#254150 - in reply to #253529)
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This is the TAG-Plate of my 1959 DODGE Convertible, as already shown in another thread. But this one is revised:
The character of the letters and there position is adapted to the Original. Then the plate has the correct border, and what was very critical to realize, on the rear of the plate, the letters are "stamped" as in production.

Edited by sermey 2010-12-22 11:46 AM




(01 CAD 1959 TAG-Plate Front.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 TAG-Plate Rear.jpg)



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Posted 2010-12-22 11:01 AM (#254151 - in reply to #253529)
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Man, that's in really great shape for being 91 years old!!

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Posted 2010-12-22 3:55 PM (#254179 - in reply to #254151)
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Whoa! Absolutely fantastic! When you are finished with the 3D-CAD drawings of the '59 Dodge, can you make a 3D-CAD model of Amanda Peet?
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sermey
Posted 2010-12-26 10:33 AM (#254606 - in reply to #253529)
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Going on modeling some other parts, I weighted the Rear Lamp Body, well-known by every owner of a 1959 Dogde. I measured exactly 1000 grams, say 1 kg. BigBlockMopar will kindly check and confirm this value.

On the CAD Rear Lamp Body I have assigned the Material   "Zinc, As Cast" and got a weight of 1044.09 grams. Then I assigned as well plastic "ABS", as used for rechromed plastics, and got a weight of 158.95 grams. Means, alone these 4 Bodies, reproduced in Rechromed Plastics, would reduce 3.36 kg of the cars weight, the volume and the surface area of this Body remaining the same.

Impressive numbers!  



Edited by sermey 2010-12-26 10:58 AM




(01 CAD 1959 RearLamp Weight Zinc.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 RearLamp Weight ABS.jpg)



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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2010-12-26 5:33 PM (#254643 - in reply to #253529)
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I don't have a scale in my garage to measure that but maybe I could make a balance with a liter of water to see how close it is to a kilo. Don't you love how logical the metric is guys...
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-02 4:49 PM (#255473 - in reply to #253529)
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This tricky "game" I expected to be easier - finally I got it.  The Rear Lamp Unit: Body, Lens, Seal, Ring, Screws. All modeled in a Single Multipart File.   

The three asymmetrical mounting studs I replaced with four symmetrical ones, for a mounting in any position of the car: right side top, right side bottom, and on the left side correspondingly. I also removed the rear injection points around the Lamp Socket.


One more perfect "restored" Unit on the way to the virtual 1959 DODGE.  - SERGE -

I added eDrawing-Files: PanHead Screw, 1959 Rear Lamp Seal, 1959 Rear Lamp Ring, as illustrated here. The Rear Lamp Ring can be seen on the car in the thread  "Make-up your Car".



Edited by sermey 2011-01-02 5:42 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Unit.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Section View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Body Removed.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Lens DODGE Script.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Lamp Rear View.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Up View.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Unit.jpg (73KB - 294 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Section View.jpg (81KB - 289 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Body Removed.jpg (70KB - 274 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Lens DODGE Script.jpg (97KB - 299 downloads)
Attachments 05 CAD 1959 Lamp Rear View.jpg (74KB - 285 downloads)
Attachments 06 CAD 1959 Rear Lamp Up View.jpg (63KB - 289 downloads)
Attachments Short Screw PanHead D3.5mm.EPRT (280KB - 282 downloads)
Attachments 1959 Rear Lamp Seal.EPRT (72KB - 289 downloads)
Attachments 1959 Rear Lamp Ring.EPRT (107KB - 316 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2011-01-02 5:25 PM (#255475 - in reply to #253529)
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Looks very nice!
I see one error though...!

The thread on the screw in the 3rd pic is lefthand thread! ...
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Posted 2011-01-02 5:29 PM (#255476 - in reply to #253529)
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Absolutely fantastic - it's so beautiful!
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Posted 2011-01-02 5:41 PM (#255479 - in reply to #255475)
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BigBlockMopar - 2011-01-02 11:25 PM Looks very nice! I see one error though...! The thread on the screw in the 3rd pic is lefthand thread! ...

Congrat Hermann, you are very observant. In fact, because I did this set as a MultiPart in a single file, I just "mirrored" the screw and got therefore a second one with lefthand thread. Now I will "array" the screw and both will have righthand thread  - thanks.



Edited by sermey 2011-01-03 2:47 AM
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-05 4:51 AM (#255817 - in reply to #253529)
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This Parking Lens may be one of the easiest parts to model: just sketch the profile and revolve.

Often broken, they are hard to find NOS and thus quite expensive. The reproductions, available on the market, are silver painted on the outern surface, instead chrome plated as original. Here you see it correctly.

On my DODGE I use another lense, will be shown later on in the assembly. For security reasons, in Switzerland this light should be visible at a side angle of 150deg.





(01 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Front View .jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Rear View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Section View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Intransparent.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Front View .jpg (83KB - 298 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Rear View.jpg (89KB - 293 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Parking Lens Section View.jpg (80KB - 278 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-15 3:05 PM (#257090 - in reply to #253529)
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This is the 1959 Front Grill, in brushed Aluminium. Here I omitted the upper fixing tabs and the stabilizers on the rear for a nicer aspect.

The Front is center-angeled by 5 degree, not remarkable on the car. The Chrome Bars left and right hand, here not shown, are parallel and thus have as well a 5deg angle each other.





(01 CAD 1959 Grill Perspective View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Grill Left Front End.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Grill Left Rear End.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Grill Exact Front View.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Grill Perspective View.jpg (83KB - 300 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Grill Left Front End.jpg (86KB - 294 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Grill Left Rear End.jpg (83KB - 281 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Grill Exact Front View.jpg (92KB - 295 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2011-01-23 10:38 AM (#258033 - in reply to #253529)
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This Collar on the Front Position Lamps was optional only on the  '59 Custom Royal. Original there is an upper and a lower half. Here you see the right side Collar. To get the left side one it has to be mirrored.
For an uniform view from side, this Collar here is modeled in one piece and is just cut as original, only on one, the inner side; thus being fixed with only 3 screws. On my car the full round Collar has 23 teeth as on the model - on some Original Brochures I counted less.

This is a very rare part to find, here guaranteed pits-free! - SERGE - 



Edited by sermey 2011-01-23 2:24 PM




(01 CAD 1959 Collar Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Collar Front Wire View.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Collar Matte Side View.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Collar View Cut Side.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Collar Rear View.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Collar Front View.jpg (74KB - 275 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Collar Front Wire View.jpg (86KB - 286 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Collar Matte Side View.jpg (53KB - 285 downloads)
Attachments 04 CAD 1959 Collar View Cut Side.jpg (69KB - 300 downloads)
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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2011-01-23 12:34 PM (#258043 - in reply to #253529)
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Sweet. Nice progress!

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Posted 2011-01-29 2:12 PM (#258861 - in reply to #253529)
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For variation now a part that can be used, as option, on all FWL-Cars: the Dual Rear Antenna, here shown the left side one as set,  the right side one mirrored as shown in the last picture

An ingenious concept, combined with a full free surface modeling technology, allowed this complex shape to be implemented quite fast. Thus, I added more details inside the Antenna Body.
The Antenna Bar correspond to my upgraded Automatic Device, I may show it here later on.

On the other hand, here the Antenna Gasket as described in "Make-up your Car!". This Gasket can be mounted without the complicated dissassembling of the the antenna. The 3 cut-out angle have 100deg (+), the partial length are 169.5 + 171 + 25.1 = 365.6mm, the outer circumference has 367.75mm. For a better visibility I did the gaps wider than in reality. A separate file of this gasket is attached for eDrawing (free download this application SW).

Here another nice model, hard to identify differences to the Original. Many car owners are looking for this Rear Dual Antenna, and when once available - hardly affordable.
Unfortunately, here you can just see it - but not take it! - SERGE - 


Edited by sermey 2011-01-30 5:30 AM




(01 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - Out.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - In.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Removed.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View2.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Transparent View3.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Bottom View.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Section View.jpg)



(08 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Profile.jpg)



(09 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Mounted.jpg)



(10 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Dual R + L.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - Out.jpg (39KB - 294 downloads)
Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Unit - In.jpg (63KB - 320 downloads)
Attachments 03 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Body Removed.jpg (61KB - 304 downloads)
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Attachments 07 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Section View.jpg (59KB - 291 downloads)
Attachments 08 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Profile.jpg (56KB - 295 downloads)
Attachments 09 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Gasket Mounted.jpg (62KB - 300 downloads)
Attachments 10 CAD 1959 Rear Antenna Dual R + L.jpg (70KB - 305 downloads)
Attachments Rear Antenna Gasket.EPRT (128KB - 297 downloads)
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Posted 2011-01-29 3:47 PM (#258872 - in reply to #253529)
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Posted 2011-01-29 6:53 PM (#258888 - in reply to #253529)
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You are right

Try as I might, I could not reach into the screen and take them

darn lol

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Posted 2011-01-30 5:24 AM (#258934 - in reply to #258872)
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wizard - 2011-01-29 9:47 PM I'm flabbergasted by the beauty in those pictures . . .
. . . as I am with many excellent jobs shown on this site.

I even barely believed to get such authentic models.

To be honest: For doing this, no High School is needed, for it is not an engineering, but simply a copy of an existing part. As everyone with some know-how in applied Mechanics is able to restore a car, as well everyone with some Know-How in descriptive Geometry can translate a part to a model. Both need the correct tools and the way to use them, some creativity and the motivation to bring the ambitious aim to an end. It is like a game you want to win.

At the end all are flabbergasted of their own incredible results.  - SERGE -
 



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Posted 2011-01-31 1:41 PM (#259094 - in reply to #253529)
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To be correct, here the Original Rear Antenna Gasket. I found a pair of Repros, not used, because they are too big (up to 3mm too long), the reason for the alternative. They are equal, although the base is not symmetric. Here the Original is exact to the corresponding base.
I feel this look "softer", but not applicable without removing the antenna. Just find another profile for the alternative. Compare and judge yourself on the second picture.

I added as well an eDrawing file of this Original Gasket, hopely the producer will use this for direct tooling. - SERGE -


Edited by sermey 2011-02-01 1:34 AM




(01 CAD 1959 Original Rear Antenna Gasket.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Comparison Rear Antenna Gaskets.jpg)



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Attachments 02 CAD 1959 Comparison Rear Antenna Gaskets.jpg (86KB - 304 downloads)
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Posted 2011-02-07 5:57 PM (#260030 - in reply to #253529)
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Among the three Side Mouldings, Front - Door - Rear, the Front one is particular due to the various end. The rear end of the Long Rear Moulding is as well curved in order to fit the fender.  Apart this, the profile is simple and the length is just another number to program. For a 2- door car: 398mm - 1234mm - 2375mm,  important to know when bidding in eBay!

- SERGE -





(01 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Front View.jpg)



(02 CAD 1959 Side Moulding Profile.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Curved End.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Other End 45deg.jpg)



(05 CAD 1959 Door Moulding End 90deg.jpg)



(06 CAD 1959 Door Moulding Matte Rear View.jpg)



(07 CAD 1959 Long Rear Fender Moulding.jpg)



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Attachments 01 CAD 1959 Front Moulding Front View.jpg (65KB - 311 downloads)
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Posted 2011-02-13 4:31 PM (#260899 - in reply to #253529)
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Not apparently on the car the slanted rear of the Front PositionLamp Bodies. Here I omitted the mounting brackets, much more complex and heavy than the body, not needed for my assembling to come.

Apart from that the shape is as the original. - SERGE -





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Posted 2011-02-14 1:23 AM (#260967 - in reply to #253529)
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This thread is soo kool! Have you demounted the parts from your car, or do you measure on your spar parts Serge?
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Posted 2011-02-14 3:18 AM (#260973 - in reply to #253529)
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Wow. I am working with a little project on my company, preprocessing point clouds from laser scanning data. It is amazing what new programs can do. If I only had possibility to use scanner and some time to play....
Those models are wonderful! Keep up the good work!
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Posted 2011-02-14 4:55 AM (#260975 - in reply to #260967)
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Wizard: Until now I used spare parts, and I didn't disaembled parts from the car jet. I don't have a spare Door Handle and will just model what is visible, as well with other parts. Later on I can add what is missing, as the mounting brackets on the Body of the Front PositionLamp. The exact position of the items for the assembling I measure on my car.

As can be seen on some shown parts , the chrome is very shiny and on others not. When very shiny, the problem is mirroring the ambient, as when take pictures from chrome parts. Then the real shape is hardly visible. Thus, the shown Side Mouldings have removed ambient, or the mirroring profile will narrate. On the pictures you can easy recognize if there is a model or a real part, when inside a part there is unrealistic the same light and ambient. There I could add "matte chrome" as I did on the rear of the HubCap. This one looks amazing as an Original.

JT Newman: By scanning parts you get a model with all blemishes of the part due to the production process and the non-linear shrinking of the molds. A reproduction using a scanned or impressed part will experience a second shrinking. In a new part the shrinking factor is taken into account by selecting the material. On the other side, a scanned part can as well be (up-) scaled.

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Posted 2011-02-14 3:12 PM (#261016 - in reply to #253529)
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Before mounting my new Power Windows Switch I just put them in the Computer. Full geometrical devices, easy and fast to realise, even with all sizes 1 -2 - 3 - 4. I never saw a 3 Switch one, so could even do a 5 Switch item. Here I present only the Front View of the four Versions.  - SERGE -

For the freaks I have attached an eDrawing file with the single and quadro version (just the front due to file size) for play with. Now I have downloaded this pre-checked file, the remaining file name has to be renamed with the extension .EPRT (CAD -> CAD.EPRT). You may need to upgrade your eDrawing-Viewer to 2011 (for free in Internet). Please some feedback. Thanks.



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Posted 2011-02-18 10:26 AM (#261479 - in reply to #260899)
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. . .  Apart from that the shape is as the original. . . No, when assembling with the collar I saw one step wasn't cut-out on the lower side. Just cut both in one operation. I think this is for not touch the Front Bumper or for tighten the screws. Not nice, could even remove in the model. 



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Posted 2011-02-19 3:17 PM (#261605 - in reply to #253529)
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After completing the Front Bar I can present a first Assembly of the Front. I removed the shown Step Cut, as well on the lower side of the Front Bar, for a nicer aspect. In the Computer all is done with real dimensions 1 :1. For the first time, the owners of a 1959 Dodge can check if their Front Components are aligned correctly.

- SERGE -

 



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Posted 2011-02-19 4:11 PM (#261620 - in reply to #253529)
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Kool Serge, will you do the sheetmetal as well? A body in white (raw metal) perhaps?
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Posted 2011-02-20 5:00 AM (#261663 - in reply to #261620)
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wizard - 2011-02-19 10:11 PM . . . will you do the sheetmetal as well? . . .

The objective is to have one day all the complete car, what is visible. The biggest job (games!) are all the parts around the car, what I am doing now. Every part is a single project. The body (sheetmetall) will be a small thing in respect to the Knight Head or other complex parts. This will be one single "cover", then being splitted in Trunk,  Doors, Hood. For now I already assemble the existing parts at the correct location, "floating in the air" - these parts are "waiting" for the body. What doesn't exist jet can be added by imagination.

At the end any color combination can be realized, even in wood, in stone, any material. All the car can be scaled, transformed, stretched . . . whatever by a few commands, keeping all in 3D-RealView. Then the car can be placed in any 3D-environment, there will hardly be a difference between reality and animation.

This will be the end of the game or - then the real game starts!  - SERGE -

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Posted 2011-02-22 1:08 PM (#261977 - in reply to #261016)
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I didn't showed the other side of the Power Windows Switch with the Mounting Bracket - to complete here it is. - SERGE -


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Posted 2011-02-22 1:53 PM (#261979 - in reply to #253529)
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Special thank's for posting those ones Serge, they look next to identical to the '60 ones from the backside.
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Posted 2011-02-25 5:39 AM (#262386 - in reply to #253529)
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The Rear "D O D G E" Letters mounted on the Trunk have been done in one block, with the correct distance, for an easy assembling. Without any details primarly very easy and fast to realize.  But then the pattern of the borders, with the many fillets, finally needed alone about 50 (fifty) times more memory, the file size has grown up to 49MB (Mega).

That's Design!  - SERGE -

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Posted 2011-03-13 4:08 PM (#264510 - in reply to #253529)
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Among '59 Dodge owners, this part is well-known as "EyeBrow". If they had 3D-CAD in the fifties, this part would have been designed per shure different, with less twist, curvature and bend. I will have to do a fine fitting to the sheet metall when assembling for no gaps at all - as on my DODGE!  - SERGE -




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Posted 2011-03-19 6:06 PM (#265234 - in reply to #253529)
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This Rear Emblem comes on the trunk of the Custom Royal, on the Coronets there are two on the fender front sides. For technical interested Readers I show shortly how this body is being modeled.

Take a picture size 1:1 as base reference, draw five sections for the left arm, loft them along 3 guides and mirror this half to get the entire body. This as well for the flower emblem: left and center part, mirror this as to get the complete flower, and mirror all again to get it twice. Loft the upper small bar at constant profile, extrude the panel with the given profile, extrude the lower Dent and array it 5 times.

That's all! All other is the finish.

Some items are shown matte for no mirror irritations. The knight, being used as well for other Emblems to come, will be done separate and shown later.  – SERGE  -





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Posted 2014-04-17 2:54 PM (#436591 - in reply to #253529)
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The Chevron Emblems are mounted on the rear fenders, thus there have two different ones, the one for the left side and the other for the right side, with different part numbers.

At the first glance they look equal. But the lower side, seen when mounted, is about 1.5mm higher. Here I modeled both items symmetric, the mounting pins being mirrored as on the samples. The original emblems have various thickness, and the wings differs from the others in details – the wellknown tolerances at the time. A reproduction by from a 3D-scan of these parts could be critical.

Now I can state, this Chevron Emblem has never been illustrated as nice and perfect as on the shown pictures here.  – SERGE - 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 



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Posted 2014-04-17 4:02 PM (#436600 - in reply to #436591)
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Would you be able to someday output these files to a 3D printer and produce finished copies, ready to be mounted ?

Note: Coronet had a nameplate that read 'Coronet' on front fender. Only the station wagons and Silver Challenger had the trunk medallion on the fenders. Are you fancying things up a bit by making the knight's head gold ?

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Posted 2014-04-17 4:24 PM (#436603 - in reply to #253529)
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Dedicated as always Serge, that took you some time to create I imagine - real hardcore for the '59 Dodge entusiasts
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Posted 2014-04-21 2:34 PM (#437149 - in reply to #253529)
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There are two scripts Custom Royal”, on the left and the right side of the car. They are made in golden anodized Aluminium. Because letters cannot be mirrored, both scripts are identical.

A picture and/or better a scan on the flatbed scanner gives a useful reference contour. Before using, it must be aligned to fit to the real measured values. The picture 01 shows the "aligned" script, the verticals

of the support becoming straight and the sheetmetall underneath rounded. As these emblems varies in details from one to the other, the letters of the reference sketch have to be optimized – what needs the most time. Once the result is satisfying by visual control, then the proceeding is simple. Finally, the modeled scripts have to be deformed to the bodys curved surface. CAD made this easy, but by processing the computer goes quite busy. The mounting pins are missing and not modeled here.

Another golden eye-catcher, upgrading the 1959 Dodge Custom Royal to its exclusivity  -  SERGE -

 



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Posted 2014-04-21 2:46 PM (#437150 - in reply to #436600)
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ronbo97 - 2014-04-17 10:02 PM

Would you be able to someday output these files to a 3D printer and produce finished copies, ready to be mounted ?

Note: Coronet had a nameplate that read 'Coronet' on front fender. Only the station wagons and Silver Challenger had the trunk medallion on the fenders. Are you fancying things up a bit by making the knight's head gold ?

Ron

Ron, if you send me the exact contour of the nameplate "Coronet", I can do this for you (JPG or PDF). These files, converted to .STEP or .STL as used in the industry, can directly be used for Tooling or 3D-Printing. Last process is still not enough exact for small

parts. The Golden Knight Head is still on my "program", but it must be done perfectly.

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Posted 2014-04-21 9:13 PM (#437195 - in reply to #437150)
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Serge -

I will shoot some high quality images for you and email to your bluewin.ch email address. I'll include a ruler for scale.

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Posted 2015-05-25 9:15 AM (#479323 - in reply to #253529)
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FWL Emblem: This emblem is not a 1959 Dodge part. But I am fascinating of this design. Here some variations in 3D-RealView. All fantastic combinations can be done.

But for another time.  - SERGE - 





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Posted 2015-06-24 1:22 PM (#482638 - in reply to #253529)
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So they can be 3d printed?
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Posted 2016-10-18 12:12 PM (#523728 - in reply to #253529)
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Push Button Unit: The gear in the automatic torqueflite transmission is set by five push buttons R – N – D – 1 – 2 . These are moulded parts in green transparent plastic, the letters are graved and colored with paint (01). These buttons are just shifted on to the rear mechanical unit. The transparency shows exact the original conical design (02). The protecting chrome cups are pushed on the buttons (03). For a smoother return, O-rings are provided as dampener (04).

Finally, the patterned and polished aluminium panel is mounted and fixed by two screws (05). As the buttons are in transparent plastic, with rear light they appear illuminated (06). In the exploded views all parts are visible (07)(08).

Here the push button unit as it is – in 3D-RealView.

Any questions? Yes, with the STL-files of the present design these push buttons could be reproduced exactly with a 3D Printer, even the green transparent 3D Filament is now available.  - SERGE -  

 



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(02 CAD 1959 Rear Connection.jpg)



(03 CAD 1959 Chrome Cups.jpg)



(04 CAD 1959 Rubber Dampener.jpg)



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Posted 2016-10-18 3:35 PM (#523744 - in reply to #253529)
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This is amazing Serge - it must have taken many hours of measuring and creating the pushbuttons.
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Posted 2016-10-18 4:08 PM (#523746 - in reply to #253529)
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Serge, I like to print the FWL Emblem....
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Posted 2016-10-18 11:51 PM (#523784 - in reply to #523744)
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Sven: . . . .  it must have taken many hours of measuring and creating the pushbuttons . . . .

As the software is parametric, the exact dimensions are re-measured and corrected at the end of the modeling process.

And for those who are familiar with: This is not an assembly of parts as usual, but a multipart design. I use to do a mastersketch, one or two views referring to all parts.

Later the dimensions can be modified here, means that all parts are in one single file .sldprt, and in the sketched position, except when "exploded".

Equal items are modeled together, or mirrored, arrayed and copied if needed.  - SERGE -



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Posted 2016-10-19 7:29 AM (#523801 - in reply to #253529)
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Serge, as one who works with architectural CAD every day, my hat is off to you. These are stunning!!
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Posted 2017-02-20 3:58 PM (#534412 - in reply to #253529)
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Convertible Top Pin – Grommet: Devices to center and seal the top when up, in the parts catalogue as “catch and seal”. The easiest part until now to model. Just needed the correct dimensions of the grommet. Here some pictures in 3D-RealView. - SERGE -

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 





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Posted 2017-03-03 7:57 PM (#535114 - in reply to #523801)
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"Serge, as one who works with architectural CAD every day, my hat is off to you. These are stunning!!"

Thanks for your comment, Dean.

Some are more spectacular, this last is very easy: just revolve the profile.  - SERGE - 





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Posted 2018-04-24 5:32 AM (#562176 - in reply to #253529)
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The reference for numbering the speedometer scale is the drum, as it is lateral fixed and cannot be moved. Thus, the distances of the scale numbers have to be positioned and centered according the lines (01). Total distance for any 10mph is 18.583mm, the numbering length for 140mph (center to center) is 223mm. The original scale is somewhat mismatched, now the numbers are aligned to the speedometer drum (02).

The letters and the directional emblems on the original glass are engraved backside and whitened. The upper and lower white stripe support the illumination (03). The glass version with the speed reminder option has an additional scale which is printed (04). The setting knob here looks like a lonely bird flying in the sky (05).

At the speed of 0mph the first green bar is just (not-) visible at correct setting (06). Up to 30mph the bar is GREEN (07), from 30 – 50mph turns to YELLOW (08), and higher than 50mph up shows RED (09). The assembly is shown in (10). On the exploded view, the rear metal panel in black and the colored tabs, green and blue for the light signals, are brought out (11).

Finally, the correct and direct interchangeable Speedometer Scale in kmph,  0 – 180 (120mph = 193.08kmph). 200 is out of the range and would interfere with the Speed Reminder Scale. Compressing the scale to 200 to coincide to 120 needs a recalibration. For completing, the front chrome bar  D O D G E  (12).  - SERGE - 

 

More options and printable templates will be presented in the thread “Make-up your car”.

 

 

 



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Posted 2018-04-24 6:30 AM (#562178 - in reply to #253529)
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Our Serge at work again, leaving us all impressed and amazed!

Very nice idea with the combined km/h and mph

The exploded view is totally great help for insight and knowledge!!!
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Posted 2018-07-14 8:54 AM (#566586 - in reply to #253529)
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Absolutely amazing! Has 3D caught up now? I see YouTube videos of very smooth 'prints' from share ware or whatever it is called. It then can be molded in silicone and cast in wax and then molded in a plaster mold with metal like white bronze. You just need a vacuum bell, 3D printer, forge, kiln, silicone/plaster mold making equipment, wax dispenser, and skill. Marc.
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Posted 2018-07-16 2:27 AM (#566668 - in reply to #566586)
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To your positive comment, Marc:

There are new generations of 3D-Printers on the way, Multilayer-types. The first layer for fast basic build-up, the last layer for high resolution surface enabling direct plating. All the modeled parts here, generated as STL-Files, then can be produced at very low cost and high quality, for all 3D-Printing process is automated.
The most expensive part in time is the modeling. To get the templates accurate it needs the appropriate software, the know-how to work with, some engineering skills, and sometimes more time to get all perfect. But first an original part and the exact dimensions. Once it is done, it can be used infinitely as a standard printing template.
For huge quantity a molded part will still remain the way for lowest cost, by using an electro-eroded injection tool, built-up from a STEP-File.

Looking forward to the coming years, everyone can afford dual rear antennas, D-500 emblems, Lancer Emblems. . . . ., in a nicer finish as NOS-ones (see picture).

 

Unfortunately, up today nobody on this site, was in the position to support the modeling as presented in this thread. - SERGE - 



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Posted 2018-08-03 8:10 AM (#567720 - in reply to #253529)
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Emblem FUEL Injection 58: A few month ago there was a thread about this, obviously very loved emblem, and very rare. Repros have been in discussion and attempts of modeling presented.

As enthusiast of emblems then I modeled this part on the base of pictures, as no reference samples are available. Thus, all you see is by view and not accurate. The precice dimensions should be applied to this model, if one day disposable.

Now I did some final corrections for present here. The rear of the emblem I have never seen, it is done as I would be the designer. Some details, Front / Rear View,  may help as starter for those who will do repros.

 

Anyway, an exceptional emblem, in reality nicer than just in 3D-RealView. Another challenging game!   - SERGE -  ;)

 

 

 



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Posted 2018-08-03 11:22 AM (#567729 - in reply to #253529)
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Wow, that looks very perfect to me - a lot of work and thinking behind it Serge! I really hope that someone will inform you about the dimensions of this super rare emblem.
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I found another Picture, downloaded from Danny/57burb (09).

To get the emblem from CAD in Photoshop without any background: save from SolidWorks as PNG, in Options set “remove background” and the resolution. Then imported in Photoshop: place, resize and distort to fit on the picture (10).

With the correct dimensions should look similar to Original. Just the light and surface settings are not optimal (11).  To add: the overall shell is set to 1.6mm, as most other FWL-Emblems. - SERGE -

 

 

 



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Posted 2018-08-07 11:44 AM (#567989 - in reply to #253529)
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Cool! you have some computer chops. whats your plan are you going to have it machined?
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Posted 2018-08-07 3:34 PM (#568003 - in reply to #567989)
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Hi Vince! I see you first time here - welcome on board of creative and multi-talented people.

For the moment I do nothing with - it's just for fun. If the time has come (to have produced in 3D-Printing in High-Resolution for a shiny surface), I will realise some prototypes. For commercial or business purpose there are many good guys here who would care for. The basics are

accurate 1 : 1 models in 3D-CAD as shown here. 

Now some try to go their own way - still waiting and looking forward to results to come. -

Computer: 2 DELL Precision M6800 i7-4930 MX and two HD DELL Monitors 27" (2x 30" resp). Much less than a FWL-Car! Then no rust and dirty hands.

The applied slogan: Not talk, but simply do-it and enjoy!  - SERGE -

 



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Posted 2018-08-08 2:38 AM (#568046 - in reply to #568003)
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........board of creative and multi-talented people


yes, thats right!
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Posted 2018-09-01 12:30 PM (#569368 - in reply to #253529)
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Posted 2018-09-27 6:18 AM (#570814 - in reply to #569368)
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mstrug - 2018-09-01 6:30 PM More pics for you:

Thank you Marc for these clear pictures. I see many items to be corrected, dimensions still missing. Should model with emblem in hand as shown in the next thread.

Your constructive comments, Marc, are always very appreciated.  - SERGE - 

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Posted 2018-09-27 7:08 AM (#570815 - in reply to #253529)
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Knight DODGE 59: The 1959 Dodges have their own Knight style. They vary somewhat on the various emblems, due to different supplier at that time.

After a few years I started a new attempt to model the 1959 Dodge Knight, based on the rear / side emblem found on most models. This one will then be integrated on all modeled emblems to come.

And now finally here it is (01)(02)! A crazy exercise: 3D-Splines, 3D-Curved Surfaces, more a graphical than a geometrical modeling, realized mostly accurate. Overall thickness as original 1.6mm. here some details at no chrome for better view (03)(04)(05)(06).

One day the Golden Knight meets the Chrome Knight (07), later on at a Private Party (08).   - SERGE -   :laugh:

 



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Posted 2018-09-28 1:42 AM (#570851 - in reply to #253529)
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I had the privilege to follow the progress of the different steps of this project and the final result is absolutely stunning in accordance with the original in shape and detail. Yet a very difficult 3D Project realized by a true master.
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Posted 2018-09-28 4:35 AM (#570855 - in reply to #570814)
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sermey - 2018-09-27 5:18 AM

mstrug - 2018-09-01 6:30 PM More pics for you:

Thank you Marc for these clear pictures. I see many items to be corrected, dimensions still missing. Should model with emblem in hand as shown in the next thread.

Your constructive comments, Marc, are always very appreciated.  - SERGE - 



I can't wait for these to be duplicated. They make a 'bronze' and white 'metal' print media. The 'X' is next?
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Posted 2018-09-28 1:35 PM (#570874 - in reply to #253529)
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Flower Emblem: This is part of the Rear Emblem, for all here working with older SolidWorks or any CAD Software:

Open in SolidWorks (2013 up) the .SLDPRT-File, or import in any SolidWorks or CAD-Software the Parasolid-File .X_T, both as attachment. For animation additional an eDrawing-File .ERPT. Some pictures to look at, all done with this file in SW2013 (Original in SW2016). Pic 05 shows the simple creation of this Emblem (the guides and the planes/intersections):

1. Left Lower Loft, 2. Left Upper Loft, 3. Left Center Loft 4. mirror all for the right half.

 

As I said, just a game!  - SERGE - 

 

 

 



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Posted 2018-10-03 3:18 AM (#571090 - in reply to #253529)
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Spinner DODGE 59: In addition to the first thread presenting the HubCap, now with the disposable Knight Emblem I can show the modeled Spinner, in Black and Golden (01). The rear side is done as well as the Original (02). In the partly zoomed view details become better visible (03) (04). Finally the assembled HubCap (05). As this is a ForwardLook part, the Knight has to look forward, to fit on left and right side of the car .

 

Thus, all emblems to come will be as well for left and right side, and so the produced parts in 3D-Printing when ready.  - SERGE -  :)

 

 

N.B.: In Front View the Assemled HubCaps appears somewhat different than used to be. This, because in CAD the Spinner is not reflected on the HubCap.



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Posted 2018-11-14 5:53 AM (#573487 - in reply to #253529)
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Posted 2018-11-14 7:35 AM (#573491 - in reply to #253529)
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You never stop surprising us with one fantastic 3-D design after Another Serge!

It would be a very cool thing to make the Knights mirrored for the left and right side - many would never notice, but a connoisseur would stop dead in his tracks and drool…..
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Posted 2019-01-04 2:46 AM (#576236 - in reply to #253529)
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Rear Emblem (Deck Lid Ornament or Medaillon): This rear emblem is found as well on 1959 Coronets, here presented as model in the original color combination, in White (01). The Rear Views in flat mode for better visibility of the details (02) (03) (04). Here the Front View in Wire Frame for “play” on Photoshop (05).

On an antique scale the original emblem shows a weight of 150g (06), in comparison to the model, material Zinc AS Cast, 165g (07). The difference is due to the constant overall thickness of 1.6mm , illustrated in section views of the model (08), whereas the original emblem is partly thinner.

When golden plated the original white emblem looks more precious (09). My preferred color combs as on my (white) convertible is Gold-Red (10). The 1959 DODGE Coronet has two identical emblems, one on the left fender and one on the right fender, thus one knight looks backward. Here the two emblems for both forward-looking knights (11).

 

Not a rare emblem, but awesome, here perfectly modeled.  - SERGE - 





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Posted 2019-01-06 5:19 PM (#576368 - in reply to #253529)
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<p>The work is fascinating, but to what end? Does this mean the ability to reproduce parts in 3D, or what? I'm Jonesing watching all this work on the '59 Dodge</p>

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I own a good condition example of the gold "star" piece of the Fuel Injection emblem.
If I measure for you ? Send piece to you ? Will this enable you to complete the
template building work ?
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Posted 2019-01-08 6:37 AM (#576481 - in reply to #576371)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2019-01-07 1:32 AM Serge - I own a good condition example of the gold "star" piece of the Fuel Injection emblem. If I measure for you ? Send piece to you ? Will this enable you to complete the template building work ?

Thank you for your offer (first!!!). For a real and original-correct model I need to check, when done,  all corners 3D from edge to edge, and then correct the dimensions I initialy measured. Our eyes are very critical when comparing copy and original. Thus I will only start when I have the emblem in hand.

Now I purchased and wait for the 1962 Chrysler New Yorker / Newport Grill Emblem, as I like it, just for modeling. And I do only when I am in the mood for do it.

On pictures I met various Fuel Injection Emblems, the letters are somewhat different. Your example must not be nice, important the original one. Contact me on sermey at bluewin dot ch. 

Here I started the 1959 D500 Emblem: copy - move - mirror - resize the existing knight to the right position, model the numbers 500 as well in the right position (01). Later comes the body and the final details.  - SERGE -



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Posted 2019-01-12 5:37 AM (#576627 - in reply to #576368)
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Bart_59_Dodge - 2019-01-06 11:19 PM

The work is fascinating, but to what end? Does this mean the ability to reproduce parts in 3D, or what? I'm Jonesing watching all this work on the '59 Dodge

Good Question Bart.

As you stated, the 3D models offer the ability to reproduce these parts  in original and even in better quality. Can be used for direct injection tooling by electro-erosion technology, for build prototypes by stereolithography, or done in 3D-Printing. All all items in 1 : 1 real size, without any dimension, just by a STEP-, STL- or Parasolid-File.

As emblems are mostly rechromed, the surfaces of the new 3D-Print Technology are still not sufficient, or the fine edges may be removed by polishing. Only bigger parts, as the Rear Antenna Socket, would show very nice results.

Best is producing, as original done, using an injection tool. The initial costs are quite high. At low quantities the part becomes too expensive.

I did already some preliminary tests, but still not sufficient in quality for rechromed parts. Here a Push-Button, 3D-Printed with green filament (01), 3D-Equipment USD1000. Will present here samples as soon they become usable and affordable.

 

The technology develops. For now, the existing models keep the quality all the time, can say a “long lasting conservation” of impressive designs. - SERGE -  



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Posted 2019-01-18 3:13 PM (#577000 - in reply to #253529)
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3D-Print Analysis: Depending of the layer height, the slices become more or less visible. The bigger the part, the roughness of the surface appear smoother.

This is shown here by a 3D-Printing analysis, on a Knight of the rear emblem, and on the socket of a rear antenna, both 1 : 1, original scale. Applied layer height 0.2mm, 0.1mm and 0.05mm. The left side of the pictures show the resulting striaton lines, the right side the simulated surface as bump map.

To smooth the surfaces, they can be fine sandblasted, then galvanic coppered, polished and final rechromed.

 

Looking forward what will be the the reality  .  .  .  .    - SERGE - 

 





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Daniel 1959
Posted 2019-09-19 5:13 PM (#587748 - in reply to #436591)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Hi I am Dani from Zurich, and will most probably purchase a 1959 CRL D 500 next spring.

Just what I was looking for that Chevron Emblem. Could these be reproduced, so I could install that on the car ?

They can be nowhere found as originals!

Super great work. So in future all emblems could be reproduced

Dani - keep on going !
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sermey
Posted 2020-02-16 3:39 PM (#594377 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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First 3D-Prints: Now the time is near for 3D-Prints at affordable costs and at a quality up to 10 micron for a rechromable surface. The first samples with my favorite, the Knight, at original proportions in transparent Resin (01). The rear side shows the mounting studs for M4 bolts.

Then I resized the Knight, not proportional to give a wider aspect, and to fit the front curvature of the DODGE (02). Same resized Knight, just removed the Grille (03). The studs are designed to fit on the grill without any modifications and to be aligned (04). This is the initial 3D-Print of the resized Knight (05). The first check on the car gives a first impression (06). Of course, the Knight will be chrome and/or golden plated. For the CAD-Versions here I used satin gold. Satin Gold can as well be sprayed on the Knight for a low cost handling.

Most modeled parts presented here now can be produced by 3D-Printing at highest precision and at reasonable costs.  - SERGE -  ;



Edited by sermey 2020-02-16 4:02 PM




(01 3D-Printed Knight Original.jpg)



(02 Resized Knight on Grille CAD.jpg)



(03 Resized Knight - Grille Removed CAD.jpg)



(04 Rear Mounting Studs CAD.jpg)



(05 3D-Printed Knight Resized Front-Rear View.jpg)



(06 First Check on Car.jpg)



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Attachments 02 Resized Knight on Grille CAD.jpg (120KB - 40 downloads)
Attachments 03 Resized Knight - Grille Removed CAD.jpg (77KB - 37 downloads)
Attachments 04 Rear Mounting Studs CAD.jpg (162KB - 40 downloads)
Attachments 05 3D-Printed Knight Resized Front-Rear View.jpg (155KB - 38 downloads)
Attachments 06 First Check on Car.jpg (195KB - 38 downloads)
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-02-16 4:51 PM (#594380 - in reply to #594377)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Great work Serge!

No, let me change that....

FANTASTIC work Serge!! Congratulations.

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backbord
Posted 2020-02-16 5:04 PM (#594381 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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This is so amazing!
3D printing with resin provides incredible details.

Serge, please show the results when you will have finished it with a suiting surface.
I think that no one will ever notice that this part was printed. At least from a usual viewing distance.

I am pretty sure someone already said it, but THIS is one key to the future of our hobby. Imagine not to rely on draining NOS supplies or wrecked cars to keep our cars on the road for the next decades!

Maik
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ToMopar
Posted 2020-02-17 6:42 AM (#594398 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Serge, great work. Maybe i visit you once to learn a little bit
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wizard
Posted 2020-02-17 7:29 AM (#594402 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Serge strikes again! I know the effort and dedication that has been put into this - the result is stunning!

This is the future for to be able to get rare items reproduced at a fair cost.

Great work as always from the 3D-master!
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Daniel 1959
Posted 2020-02-17 2:19 PM (#594414 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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A genius at work ! Congrats Serge,

I would be happy to have this Knight also on my grill...

Let me know, if you would sell one ?

Dani
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-02-17 3:04 PM (#594419 - in reply to #594377)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Not sure how you created the 3D model file for the 3D printer. I understand that there are 3D laser scanners that can be used to create a printer file. Have you considered this?

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Posted 2020-02-17 6:09 PM (#594430 - in reply to #594419)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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56D500boy - 2020-02-17 3:04 PM . Not sure how you created the 3D model file for the 3D printer. I understand that there are 3D laser scanners that can be used to create a printer file. Have you considered this? :)

thats what he did, he scanned the knights head from the rear emblem. then scaled it up.  Pretty slick

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wizard
Posted 2020-02-18 12:49 AM (#594447 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Short comment, no scanner
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backbord
Posted 2020-02-18 5:52 PM (#594486 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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I experimented with photogrammetry and it is impressing what is already possible, even with freeware. BUT you will not get this quality from a scan.
You can use it to capture the shape and even the dimensions to a good amount, but it always requires manual post processing to get to those smooth surfaces and sharp edges.

IMHO that's the result from a good old caliper, patience and some imagination.
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sermey
Posted 2020-04-04 12:38 PM (#596433 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Lancer Emblem: This Emblem is modeled throughout in Surface Technology, other than in usual said Solid Technology (01) (01a). By thicken a surface, here by 0.7mm, the surface body becomes a thin solid part. For 3D-Printing it will be filled to a solid body, shown before the electro-plating process (02).

The Knight on this emblem is somewhat different then all others on the car, and the flower on the face is missing. Here I used my already modeled Knight, did some upgrade on the flowers edge (03a) (03b).  As well the same flower for the panel, renamed to Dual Flower: insert – copy mirror down – resize non uniform, to get as well similar to the Original, then “connect” up / down with the collar (04).

 There are four basic components to create this emblem:

 

1.    The Lance in satin gold (05

2.    The Knight in satin gold (06)

3.    The Panel in satin chrome (07)

4.    The Dual Flower in satin gold (08)

 

These surface parts positioned, trimmed to each other and getting then 6 parts (09) (10), merge them and the emblem is done. Not forget to deform in order to fit on the fender (11). Finally mirrored to get left and right, all golden anodized and the colors as on my DODGE (12).

 

This Lancer Emblem, another outstanding brandmark of the DODGE 59 Custom Royal Lancer, now ready for 3D-Printing.  - SERGE -   ;)



Edited by sermey 2020-04-04 12:49 PM




(01 Lancer Emblem Left - Right.jpg)



(01a Unmetalized Emblem Left -Right.jpg)



(02 Filled Emblem Front - Rear View.jpg)



(03a Earlier Flower.jpg)



(03b Modified Flower.jpg)



(04 Dual Flower.jpg)



(05 Lance Front - Rear View.jpg)



(06 Knight in satin gold.jpg)



(07 Panel in satin chrome.jpg)



(08 Dual Flower on Panel.jpg)



(09 Trimed Parts Exploded View.jpg)



(10 Trimed Parts Flat View.jpg)



(11 Bent Emblem Side - Rear View.jpg)



(12 Lancer Emblem Left - Right.jpg)



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Attachments 01a Unmetalized Emblem Left -Right.jpg (81KB - 22 downloads)
Attachments 02 Filled Emblem Front - Rear View.jpg (73KB - 23 downloads)
Attachments 03a Earlier Flower.jpg (77KB - 23 downloads)
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Attachments 04 Dual Flower.jpg (90KB - 23 downloads)
Attachments 05 Lance Front - Rear View.jpg (75KB - 22 downloads)
Attachments 06 Knight in satin gold.jpg (71KB - 23 downloads)
Attachments 07 Panel in satin chrome.jpg (76KB - 24 downloads)
Attachments 08 Dual Flower on Panel.jpg (122KB - 23 downloads)
Attachments 09 Trimed Parts Exploded View.jpg (77KB - 22 downloads)
Attachments 10 Trimed Parts Flat View.jpg (105KB - 22 downloads)
Attachments 11 Bent Emblem Side - Rear View.jpg (82KB - 23 downloads)
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Posted 2020-04-05 2:19 AM (#596452 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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sermey
Posted 2020-04-05 3:24 PM (#596470 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem: Out of the line I present how to model an emblem. As I like the 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem I purchased once a time ago just for modeling, as it is easy to create. This as well to motivate others for doing the same when fascinated.

First a sample in hand is needed! Then take a picture exact from front view. In Photoshop (PS) open the picture, set the canvas size according the emblem size: 177 x 64.8mm, and position/scale/rotate it to fit exact in height, width and horizontal with the help of some guide lines (001). Cut-out all around the emblem, create a contour line with the border selection tool (002), and save the two pictures as JPG. In the attachment add .JPG on the names to get the picture in real size, or too big here on screen!

These pictures insert in separate sketches (sketch tool, SW2016). Now draw the lines along the parts and dimension to fix them. All this will be the MasterSketch to be used for position and create the 5 parts:

Center letter C. Generated by “Swept Boss” to get rounded faces, along 4 contour guide lines and 3 intersections (start-mid-end). Only one quarter is needed, the others are mirrored horizontal and vertical. Then cut-out to get a “C” from the “O” (03). 

Upper Ornament. Use as well the contour, the borders are all done by sweeping to avoid any flat face. Left side done, the right side simply bay mirror (04).

Lower Ornament. All similar to the upper ornament (05).

Center Bar. All again, but swept in one and then cut-out in the center (06).

Rear Black Base. Extrude the base contour in the original thickness (07).

The Final Emblem. Apply some fillets where needed according the sample, check all dimensions (point to point with the measurement tool) and modify them to be correct.

 

Now the 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem is ready. Merged all parts to a single Solid Body it can be used for 3D-Printing!

 

Good Luck  - SERGE - 

 

 

 



Edited by sermey 2020-04-06 6:26 AM




(01 Picture PS inserted.jpg)



(02 Contour PS inserted.jpg)



(03 Center Letter C modeled.jpg)



(04 Upper Ornament modeled.jpg)



(05 Lower Ornament modeled.jpg)



(06 Center Bar modeled.jpg)



(07 Rear Black Base modeled.jpg)



(08 Final Emblem - no RealView.jpg)



(09 Final Emblem - RealView.jpg)



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Attachments 02 Contour PS inserted.jpg (65KB - 31 downloads)
Attachments 03 Center Letter C modeled.jpg (76KB - 31 downloads)
Attachments 04 Upper Ornament modeled.jpg (114KB - 30 downloads)
Attachments 05 Lower Ornament modeled.jpg (125KB - 30 downloads)
Attachments 06 Center Bar modeled.jpg (121KB - 30 downloads)
Attachments 07 Rear Black Base modeled.jpg (122KB - 29 downloads)
Attachments 08 Final Emblem - no RealView.jpg (85KB - 29 downloads)
Attachments 09 Final Emblem - RealView.jpg (124KB - 30 downloads)
Attachments 001 Picture 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem 177x64.8mm (179KB - 29 downloads)
Attachments 002 Contour 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem 177x64.8mm (176KB - 31 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2020-04-06 5:45 AM (#596493 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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For download EPRT-File: 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem

This for those who like play on the computer. As the file has 402kB I split it in two files so as can be uploaded:

1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.001 (256kB)

1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.002 (146kB)

Then for merge the batch file:

Merge 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.bat (1kB)

 

Download the 3 files in a new folder (named EPRT). Double-click on the batch file and you will get the eDrawing file:

1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.EPRT (402kB)

If you don’t have the program already, download “eDrawings” version for free and install (need Version 2016 or newer). This free version doesn't support RealView, you will see as standard.

Just open the EPRT File (Password: sermey), then you can turn, zoom, resize and animate automatic the emblem (01) (02) (03). You will encounter a tremendous quality and resolution.

 

Enjoy!  - SERGE -  



Edited by sermey 2020-04-06 6:25 AM




(01 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem Front View.jpg)



(02 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem Rear View.jpg)



(03 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.jpg)



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Attachments 02 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem Rear View.jpg (94KB - 30 downloads)
Attachments 03 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.jpg (119KB - 29 downloads)
Attachments 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.001 (256KB - 30 downloads)
Attachments 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.002 (145KB - 32 downloads)
Attachments Merge 1962 Chrysler New Yorker Emblem.bat (0KB - 32 downloads)
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Ev's62Chrysler
Posted 2020-04-06 10:57 PM (#596534 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD



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Serge,

Nice work, but you missed the recesses at the top and bottom of the "C". I struggled with it and had to get help adding the upper recess to mine. Haven't done the lower one yet.

Robert



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sermey
Posted 2020-04-11 3:07 PM (#596681 - in reply to #596534)
Subject: Re: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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Modification on Letter “C: According the comment of Robert I did minor changes on the Letter “C”.

As the emblem was done just quickly, not like the 1959 Dodge parts, some details not have been checked seriously. The upper oval guidelines I found on a too high position. When lofted the top, the “recession” then became bigger. Thanks Robert.

As there should be no flat faces at all to appear authentic, no boss/extrude operations have been applied, as done on the presented model of Robert. Instead, all the bodies were created by multiple lofts.

Here using 4 spline guidelines (in blue) and tree section profiles (in red) to generate the first quarter (01). This quarter mirrored vertical (02), and then horizontal. All fillets are variable and elliptical as is the emblem (03).

Not forget that the top of the letter is curved (04), and that all emblem parts are joined to the backplane (D=2.5mm).

 

The final letter “C” (05) is attached as eDrawing file. Another challenging “game”.    – SERGE -



Edited by sermey 2020-04-12 4:43 AM




(01 Loft Profile.jpg)



(02 Quarter Mirrored.jpg)



(03 Variable Elliptical Fillet.jpg)



(04 Curved Top.jpg)



(05 Final Letter C.jpg)



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Attachments 03 Variable Elliptical Fillet.jpg (115KB - 31 downloads)
Attachments 04 Curved Top.jpg (79KB - 31 downloads)
Attachments 05 Final Letter C.jpg (94KB - 29 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2020-04-14 8:29 AM (#596816 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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License Plate 1959 FLORIDA: For a Convertible I had the choice between a state where it “never rains” (. . . in California) or where is always “sunshine” (...in Florida). Being many times in Miami for business and holidays, obviously I preferred the Sunshine State.

I found some nice original 1959 FLORIDA License Plates, especially to get all numbers and the various layouts.

A flatbed color scan of the plate produces undistorted pictures in real size for the layout, and the colors of the paint then could exactly be detected. Of course after cleaning the surface to get the color combo as new. The size 303 x 150mm and the thickness I measured 0.8mm.

Here my various original plates in isometric view (01)(02)(03)(04).

Then two mounted plates including all numbers (05)(06), for those who like create their own configuration, by selecting, copying and paste. Thus I added a blank plate, front and rear view , keeping the background in black for easy cutout (07)(08). Finally the rear view of the first license plate (09).

Now the hobby can go on – with clean hands. – SERGE –  



Edited by sermey 2020-04-14 8:39 AM




(01 FLORIDA 27-3999.jpg)



(02 FLORIDA 26w-3214.jpg)



(03 FLORIDA 16-567.jpg)



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(05 FLORIDA 12-34567.jpg)



(06 FLORIDA 45w67890.jpg)



(07 Blank Plate Front View.jpg)



(08 Blank Plate Rear View.jpg)



(09 FLORIDA 27-3999 Rear View.jpg)



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Attachments 07 Blank Plate Front View.jpg (64KB - 28 downloads)
Attachments 08 Blank Plate Rear View.jpg (58KB - 29 downloads)
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sermey
Posted 2020-05-01 10:03 PM (#597622 - in reply to #253529)
Subject: RE: Modeling my 59 Dodge in 3D-CAD


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The 1959 DODGE Lost Emblem: another Emblem . . . . .  again and again (no comment).  - SERGE -  

 Basto - Again and Again (Official Music Video) [HD] - YouTube



Edited by sermey 2020-05-01 10:15 PM




(01 1959 Dodge The Unique Emblem.jpg)



(02 1959 Dodge The Lost Emblem.jpg)



(03 1959 Dodge The Lost Emblem.jpg)



(04 1959 Dodge The Lost Emblem SP.jpg)



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Attachments 02 1959 Dodge The Lost Emblem.jpg (66KB - 28 downloads)
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