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Complete 8-3/4 from 58 Chrysler, 212lbs.
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Location: Under the X in Texas | I use mine like a barbell for my morning workouts. In the afternoon I bolt the 900x14 tires and wheels back on for a little extra resistance. How about all y'all? |
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Location: Netherlands | I moved up to SureGripped Dana60's a while ago. I'm thinking of using Dana70's instead but they're not easy to come by overhere...
Nice info Greg. That's just under 100kg.
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Location: Houston | A Dana 60 is not much more weight than an 8-3/4. In fact, if you re-tube the axle with 1/4" DOM tubing they weigh about the same. |
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Location: Houston | Here is a 526" Hemi, aluminum heads, at 606 lbs. It has an engine stand adapter on the back so figure it would be about 10lbs less.
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Location: NorCal | A factory '68 B body Dana 60 weighs 240 without brakes.
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Location: Big pimpin' | Put the manifolds and iron heads on that HEMI, and I bet that weight goes up around the 440... |
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Location: Houston | Yep. The big issue with the Hemi s the porky 'Mega' siamese bore block.
The 440 is all iron with the exception of the intake. Even the water pump and housing is iron.
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Location: Houston | Here is the latest....
A bare 400 Mopar block (226lbs.) and a Desoto 341 block w/ motor mounts (204lbs.)
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Location: Houston | Desoto block* as above 192lbs. with A488 trans, no converter - 386lbs. With converter 430lbs. So, the converter weighs 44lbs and the trans 194lbs.
* main caps are off so that's 12lbs.
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Location: Perth Australia | Interesting, but I am curious, did you get the scales for a present?
I am like this with a new toy, run around everywhere, seeing what I can try it out on lol
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A present? I don't get it. Oh well, in any case I bought the scale on Ebay as I recall and yes I like to weigh everything lol
I once used it to weigh a 66 Fury I was parting out....
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Location: Houston | I'm just interested in what weighs how much. |
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Location: Alaska | I am curious how much a 318 poly weighs. My 58 Plymouth originally had a 318 but I will be using a 440 or 354 hemi, (haven't decided yet) My car has the V-8 torsion bars but would love to find a set of the HD bars.
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Location: Ontario, Canada | 58coupe - 2016-12-11 7:53 PM
I am curious how much a 318 poly weighs. My 58 Plymouth originally had a 318 but I will be using a 440 or 354 hemi, (haven't decided yet) My car has the V-8 torsion bars but would love to find a set of the HD bars.
My Regal had 952/3 bars, which were already HD, but I wanted a stiffer front end. I managed to find a pair of HD export NOS 956/7 bars. They made very little difference at all!! To install them was basically a waste of time and money.
In retrospect, there is no substitute for a sway bar or aftermarket gas shocks. Of course, no sway bar was factory available for 58 Ply or Dodge 2dr HT.
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Location: Alaska | I already have a sway bar assy. from a 59 Dodge wagon I will install on my Plymouth and it also has the 952/3 bars. I just remember how well my Furys handled from long ago. |
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Location: STL, MO | I have the 956/7 in my 58 Ply w/a 392/518. it's firmer than buddies of mine late 50's gm&fords but that's not saying much. |
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Location: Houston | I think you need to go up a fair bit in t-bar diameter to see a difference. I think most of the factory bars were done to tune the car for different weights...small changes. I had used some Firm Feel bars in my old Fury and they were definitely a big difference. I didn't even have a sway bar and the car drove much more like a modern car...for better or worse. |
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Location: So. Cal | My '58 Desoto handles amazingly well, and all I did was replace the rear springs with stiffer versions, add KYB gas shocks, and 70 series radial tires. I think the original rear springs are the weakest link on these cars. But my car does have a factory sway bar on it. |
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