Greg Leggatt's Forward Look Art Gallery Thread
Lancer Mike
Posted 2013-09-20 5:02 PM (#398789)
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I received the following message and pictures from Greg - post your own "art gallery" photos here if you like!

 

I promise I won't make a habit of doing this but I came across 3 photos in my desk and photographed them with the iPad . They don't look too bad. I restored these two Dodges and later sold them to a private collector who then sent me these photos of the cars in private museum in Quebec (he still owns them I think).

 

When I saw them it just looked like the perfect entrance for a Forward Look Art Gallery. What do you think?

 

Anyway they are both originally equipped cars except for the continental kit. I found a kit on a car in Virginia and Neil later sent me a photo of Lawrence Welk sitting in a 57CR vert with this exact kit on it! I owned a machine shop at the time so I made up the fabricated parts for about 8or9 kits.

 





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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-20 5:56 PM (#398792 - in reply to #398789)
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Nice!! Here's the ad a while back for the 58:

http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=19019
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LD3 Greg
Posted 2013-09-20 8:37 PM (#398830 - in reply to #398792)
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Ah ha, very interesting! I had no idea that James had sold (or was trying to sell) the car. I certainly sold it too cheap!!

BTW the 354 did come standard with a 2 bbl carb and CDN custom royals did have US royal interiors. There are several more little differences. It certainly was a rust free car.

Greg
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2013-09-20 11:32 PM (#398856 - in reply to #398830)
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ok, that last thread does not cast me in a very good light! My apologies for the diatribe!
In retrospect, I should have "toned it down" a bit!

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d500neil
Posted 2013-09-21 12:20 AM (#398859 - in reply to #398856)
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Chrycoman
Posted 2013-09-21 12:31 AM (#398860 - in reply to #398830)
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Canadian 1958 Dodge Custom Royal, with FOB prices and production -

4dr Sedan - $3,562.00 - 2,235
2dr Lancer hardtop - $3,620.00 - 1,262
4dr Lancer hardtop - $3,713.00 - 406
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Imported models, with prices -
2dr Lancer convertible - $4,484.00
2 seat Custom Sierra Wagon - $4,506.00
3 seat Custom Sierra Wagon - $4,652.00

X - Dover White in the US was Ermine (1958 Chrysler), Pearl White (1958 DeSoto), Eggshell (1958 Dodge), Iceburg (1958 Plymouth)

S - Bermuda Coral in the US was Tahitian Coral (1958 Chrysler)

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LD3 Greg
Posted 2013-09-21 3:29 PM (#398937 - in reply to #398789)
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Thanks,Mike and Neil for the comments and thanks Bill for the production number of 1262. That sounds like the number I was trying to recall!
It was a true show car but wherever I stored it things FELL on it! It drove beautifully but every time I did it would get hit with stones from oncoming cars. I just figured that I wasn't destined to be a collector!!

James is a great guy and had many other collector cars (nobody would believe the list if I told you) . In fact the interior vinyl was original. So was the dash pad. I replaced the seat fabric and the carpet-- that's all!! When he bought the car he asked me to do him a favour. Never try to do another interior!!

He did the seats for my 300C. It was like sitting in a Rolls. He made the seats in my regal from the brittle old originals with same result.

I bought the seat covers for the vert from Goers. James took 'em apart and resewed them.

I was sorry to read that story. I don't have a contact for him. I just hope he is OK.

Greg
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:25 AM (#399364 - in reply to #398789)
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Here's some photos and information on his 58 Dodge, from Gary.

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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:30 AM (#399365 - in reply to #398789)
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"Body is elevated up off my "jig frame" by 30" posts to do any repair panels, body work, metal finishing,primer and paint underneath as required.I did all my cars this way."



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:31 AM (#399367 - in reply to #398789)
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"Instrument panel finished complete with all rebuilt switches, new wiring harness etc."



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:33 AM (#399368 - in reply to #398789)
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"With the under side of the floors painted on the previous jig we lower it down on this "paint frame" for finish paint."



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:33 AM (#399369 - in reply to #398789)
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Frame assembly



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:34 AM (#399370 - in reply to #398789)
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"I made brackets to hold the instrument panel approx in position on the frame. Battery in and everything installed I jack up rear wheels and put 10 hours or so on the engine. Check operation of everything, checking for leaks etc. Earlier, I put a brake bleeder pig at 20 psi on the junction block and completely bled all the lines and wheel cylinders. Let it sit for a couple days to be sure there are no leaks."



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:37 AM (#399371 - in reply to #398789)
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I routinely pick up the bodies with straps under the two door striker plates and cherry picker with strap under the trunk latch bracket.

Carefully drop body with all body mounts loosely assembled and shim as required until ALL body mounts are making equal contact with the frame. It can take a lot of time but in the end you will have what I like to call a Happy driving car."



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:37 AM (#399372 - in reply to #398789)
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Finished car.



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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 6:38 AM (#399373 - in reply to #398789)
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Thank you Greg for sharing these photos with us!
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-09-24 8:31 PM (#399543 - in reply to #398789)
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Here's a couple more photos of the car.



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Lancer Mike
Posted 2013-09-25 3:25 PM (#399688 - in reply to #399543)
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Magnificent!
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Posted 2013-10-06 3:27 AM (#401690 - in reply to #398789)
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Yeah, that is the most accurately restored 57+ FWDLK Dodge, in the Universe.

I've got some pics from Greg that I've been meaning to post up, too, of this car and his 2-tone green car's restoration.







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Posted 2013-10-06 11:22 AM (#401715 - in reply to #398789)
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That is amazing! One would hate to drive a car that perfect on the road though, I can see why he sold it. That blue '57 'vert in pic 1 is equally incredible.

Scotti seems to get only really top-notch cars but his prices are equally top-notch to boot... he always seems to sell them eventually though... lots of $$$ in Quebec.
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-12-28 6:05 AM (#418847 - in reply to #398789)
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Another view of the 57 convertible. Greg, your restorations are truly perfect. And that is an understatement.



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Posted 2013-12-28 4:03 PM (#418943 - in reply to #418847)
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Thanks for posting, Matt, and thanks for your kind comments. I've got more if anyone wants to see them!
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-12-28 4:05 PM (#418944 - in reply to #418943)
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Please email to me and I'll post 'em!
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-12-28 6:00 PM (#418972 - in reply to #398789)
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christine-lover
Posted 2013-12-30 5:48 AM (#419230 - in reply to #398789)
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Greg's 58 - "While I drove these cars when they were new, this is the first FWDLK that I bought. Probably late 70s or early 80s."

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Posted 2013-12-30 6:14 AM (#419231 - in reply to #398789)
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Looking at the 58 above I have just realised that the 1958 Dodge is easily an equal to the 58 Plymouth for one of the hottest looking FL cars.

What are the little trim pieces rear of the fins called? They really change the look of the car.

beaut work on the cars Greg, what was your inspiration and what do you drive now?

Steve.
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Posted 2013-12-30 12:54 PM (#419283 - in reply to #419231)
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Thanks, Steve,
I think they just called it a fin ornament. Someone here will know for sure.

I always appreciated Chrysler engineering and I'm a big fan of torsion bar suspension so I sort of zoomed in on these Dodges! The only one I have now is the Regal Lancer.
Greg
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Posted 2013-12-30 1:14 PM (#419287 - in reply to #398789)
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You can't argue with the results, but I don't see the point in floating the body over the frame or pre-installing the dash. I guess the body floating saves some floor space but it must make the upper portions of the body hard to work on.
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Posted 2013-12-30 4:20 PM (#419328 - in reply to #419287)
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Pre-installing the dash allows me to put about 10 hours or so on the drivetrain while testing all elects etc. Everything is accessible to fix leaks, do adjustments or re. and re. anything.

You are correct. I had no place to put the body. I could only use the shop on weekends! It was the only pic I had of the bare body.
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Posted 2013-12-30 9:38 PM (#419371 - in reply to #419231)
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Greg,

I am intrigued by your riser posts. Can you explain your "science" here .... what they are made of, how they
are secured to the frame and body, and why they are the length they are ? ... advantages, disadvantages,
changes you'd make ?

I am not that far off from needing to separate the body from the frame and I'd like to hear your reasons for
this interesting way of doing things.


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Posted 2013-12-30 11:17 PM (#419391 - in reply to #419371)
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Well, Doc, it was seat of the pants stuff. I had to do a lot of floor replacements and the best " jig" I could think of was the frame itself so I needed a way to very securely and accurately hold the body " up and away" to do the work. Put a series of posts identical in length, with a washer welded at each end and run threaded rod, nuts and washers down the centres to secure the body to the frame. One for every body mount. I had a set about 8" long. Worked great for high up body work and paint. Another set about 20" long and another set 30" long for most floor work.

I knew I was going to do many cars (actually 9 or 10 total) so to take time to make up these bits was worthwhile. The problem with the blue car was I didn't have an extra frame!! That was my first restoration attempt. I sacrificed a 57 suburban, left the front t-bars still tight and the rear suspension in place. Left all wheels on it and used it as my "mobile" work bench. With the suspensions in place that frame was "torqued" to be about as accurate a jig could be!

I made all posts from 1 1/2" square tube. I've got lots of pics but I can't post them. I just can't do computer stuff --- much rather work in my shop!!
Greg
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Posted 2013-12-30 11:30 PM (#419392 - in reply to #419371)
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Doc, at the top of this thread you will see use of these posts. Sorry, the 30" posts were 1 1/2" pipe. It's important that they are all identical in length. With 3/8" threaded rod tightening the body to the frame it can pull things out of shape. That is why I wanted as accurate a frame jig as possible.

Needless to say, neither the spring special or the blue car needed much in the way of floor replacement. Some of my cars sure did!
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2013-12-31 1:34 AM (#419411 - in reply to #419392)
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Aren't the mating elevations different for some of the body mounts ? It seems the rear
box rail and trunk pan mounts are not on plane with the cowl and floor mounts.

So, you just took what .... 1/4" wall 2.5" square tube and welded washer ends to them
to create the frame-to-body spacers, and then used all-thread to bind the "sandwich" together ?
How do you dial-in your alignment ? .... or more pointedly, how do you know you have it
right ? ... what is the point of reference ?

I suspect your overhead crane is instrumental in making this approach work and it would
be difficult and risky to do without one (?).

Thanks for your feedback. Always looking for "better ideas".
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Posted 2013-12-31 2:56 AM (#419414 - in reply to #419411)
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Yes, they are all different but ALL are equidistant from the frame. Check out your frame to body mount hardware. It will be a mixed bag but the FINAL mounting clearance between frame and body will always be identical at all body mount locations or at least MUST be.

100 or 1/8 wall tubing is lots. The point of reference is the frame itself. Can I tell you a story?! On another thread I said I street raced a 57 D500 and took every bodies money when it was new. Subsequently I had opportunity to drive other 57 and 58. While the car we raced was absolutely wonderful to drive but the others were PIGS to drive. They accelerated and braked crookedly, they squeaked and groaned and leaked. That really puzzled me. One car was great and the next just sucked!

When I started to drag these cars home and dissemble them the thing that was most evident was the condition of the rubber washer body mount cushions. Some were good enough to reuse and others were crushed beyond recognition.

This is bulls**t. Either the frame or the body was crooked! This isn't rocket science. A proper restoration MUST fix this. The frame and the body MUST fit together like a glove, if not , you will have another pig. IMHO.

My overhead cranes and cherry pickers made life easier.
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Posted 2013-12-31 2:49 PM (#419486 - in reply to #419414)
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The wording of my last post was too harsh. Sorry about that.
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Posted 2013-12-31 2:59 PM (#419491 - in reply to #419486)
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I just spent 3 years with the USMC in AFG. Your choice of words is just fine.

Uh, yeah .... brain fart on my part. Of course the risers would be the same ! Not sure where
my head was at on that !

OK, so back to the different lengths ... The tall dudes are of obvious advantage to access from
both above and below. What was your idea behind the shorter ones ?
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Posted 2013-12-31 3:09 PM (#419492 - in reply to #419491)
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One more question ....

In terms of precise alignment, it seems to this feeble memory, that there is a fair amount of slop
in those holes of both the frame and body to the bolts. As a matter of making everything dead-on
true, what steps do you take to establish "correct" and what do you use for reference points ?

Do you take a pre-restoration car to a frame shop and have the frame checked/trued before starting
work ?

I am about to start piecing in the lower rear clip on my DeSoto (58 Fireflite convertible). After being
rear-ended, the frame was checked, but I am untrusting of the work done at the time, and judging
by the work I see you doing here, suspect your level of picking nits is more my style and I am thinking
of perhaps starting over or re-checking previous work before proceeding. Suggestions, science, logic,
observations, wild-ass rants ??? Please share.
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Posted 2013-12-31 3:48 PM (#419500 - in reply to #419492)
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Those convertible colors look very good he sure has a lot of talent! But the continental kit kills the whole thing for me.
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Posted 2013-12-31 4:19 PM (#419503 - in reply to #398789)
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Been meaning to post up a few of Greg's early 90's restoration photos, as a part of our
refinishing research.

Note all of the "natural finish" components, that make up a correct restoration.

Also note the un-painted generator end plates and the nose of the starter.

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Posted 2013-12-31 4:28 PM (#419504 - in reply to #419500)
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If you can find a good frame shop it would be worth doing. I think/assume the FSM has dimensional data on what is considered 'square'. One thing for sure, I would not start any frame pulling with the body mounted. Because then the body would be (possibly) getting tweaked as well.

On my 66 Fury I had a good frame guy do a front end alignment and during the process he showed me how the RH lower ball joint mounting hole was about 3/8" further back than the driver's side. He used a fancy 15 foot long caliper-thing that he told me cost $1500. I am confident that is just factory slop but it also was enough to make it not possible for me to get more than about 1 degree + caster on that side. The point being....a guy who knows how to measure a frame can tell you lots of interesting things.

The holes in the frame are about 1" diameter but the rubber bushing has a step that takes up the space. The kicker is you can get the frame into perfect hole-to-hole alignment but unless you also have a body that happened to be perfect you will still be relying on the forgiveness of the fit-up to make it all work.

Greg's point about getting the body on the frame is valid but in the case of my '58...the old bushings were all there but squished out. When I went back with all new bushings, the car went together well in that each bushing seemed to have similarly 'squeeze' on it. But I can't tell any particular difference in the way the car rides or handles. It's a little 'nicer' due to the new rubber but I can't tell anything beyond that.

I also scracth my head over the front two mounts which are visible from the engine compartment...they are metal-to-metal and I haven't figured out what is the point of that.




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Posted 2013-12-31 5:37 PM (#419517 - in reply to #419492)
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I used the short posts mainly for painting the cars. I don't remember using the 20" (or so) ones any more than once or twice.

That wagon where I got the frame (my mobile workbench) was undamaged just rusty. So I knew I was pretty safe using it.

When I drop the finished body on it's own frame, I spend a lot of time shimming to try to have even contact at all mounts.

When all(most) posts are being placed I just try to keep the threaded rod ends near the centre of the holes in both frame and body. As you said, there is quite a bit of lateral and fore & aft play in the holes. I have not had any problems with that. When the posts are tightened it is surprising how stable it all is.

Of course the biggest application for the posts is to transplant large floor pieces into a body. These were salvaged pieces I was using. Any floor pieces that included body mount holes --- just set em in place on the posts and your vertical dimensions are taken care of.

Doc, re your frame, let me think about it for a bit.
I think Neil has more of these photos than I do!!
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Posted 2013-12-31 5:52 PM (#419521 - in reply to #419517)
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LOL...I kept a dossier on our work/research...

Gots lots more too...shall we talk about torsion bar, and other, paint daubs?


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Posted 2013-12-31 6:15 PM (#419527 - in reply to #419521)
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Paint daubs ----- not sure. I doubt many people are interested.
Got a black tie affair tonight , better go see if my tux has shrunk!!
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Posted 2013-12-31 6:28 PM (#419529 - in reply to #419527)
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Brent, all the frame dimensions (including diagonal) are in the 1958 DeSoto service manual. I happen to have one right here. I'll take some pictures if you don't have it.

I love reading this thread. Although I'm not restoring it to original, I'm knee-deep in my Chrysler right now so this is all very interesting to me.
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Posted 2014-01-01 12:27 AM (#419578 - in reply to #398789)
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Greg, I had no idea there was such a talented Forward Look restorer in Ontario. Where in Ontario are you? Did you ever show your cars at Moparfest?
Incredible work! Are you still restoring FL cars?
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Posted 2014-01-01 10:38 AM (#419610 - in reply to #419517)
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Doc, I guess the most important thing I know about collision damage is to realize how little I know!! To be good at would take years or experience and apprenticeship. I avoided collision cars for that reason so never had to use a frame shop. In the case of the blue car rear left quarter and some junkyard damage to my Regal here is what I was told and shown by a body man on staff at the time.

Clean all surfaces to determine the point of any impact and determine then how the parts slid to the stopping point. This damage must be removed (dolly, hammer, pulling whatever) in REVERSE order of how it occurred. Do this fot all damage sites. The principle behind it is that any dent, regardless of how big,distresses all neighbouring steel. Working out the damage this way relieves this stress. Go through this procedure even if you are going to cut out these damaged parts and discard them.

Your case is much different. This might give a little different way to look at things and might help.


I wonder if you could rent or borrow a fancy laser level to check vertical heights at the various frame body mount locations when you get the body elevated a bit.

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Posted 2014-01-01 10:44 AM (#419611 - in reply to #419578)
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Hi Todd,
Thanks for the post. I live near Kingston. I took my Regal to Moparfest in 2002 but haven't been back.
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Posted 2014-01-01 1:55 PM (#419651 - in reply to #419610)
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My car has a colored past. Corporate in-house use car (09841 code), it turned up in Syracuse, NY as
a just-purchased car with a lot of body repair already done in 1960. The passenger quarter was replaced
with a used, rusty 1957 convertible quarter and the lower half of both quarters cut off and replaced for
rust repair. A considerable dent in the lower passenger door suggests an impact at the door, moving
rearward (hence the quarter swap). The could have involved a 2nd car in a T-bone/sideswipe sort of
wreck, or just the DeSoto hitting a stationary object while moving forward. The rocker was unaffected,
so I presume it was a high hit, or something very solid with just enough impact to mash the side in short
of crunching the rocker ?

The wreck I was involved in was a direct hit from the rear that hit above the frame (high riding 70's
Chevy Blazer). The damage to the car was strange. A rusty floor and trunk pan simply tore, allowing
the entire rear clip to slide forward on the frame with no real damage to the quarters beyond a crunched
decklid and toasting the tail light towers. The cowl was cut away from the floor, the front body mounts
repaired and the car rebuilt from the cowl back, using excellent sheetmetal I had saved for the job when
I had my wrecking yard.

Because the wreck occurred while the car was in service, there was no opportunity to brace the body
to a rigid position, required huge amounts of time, raising and lowering the top to get the alignments
dialed in as each piece was brought back into place. All that remains to do is the trunk and passenger
side lower quarter. However, I am not satisfied with the previous work done and may tear back into
some of that to fine tune it a bit ? Hence the questions about your work strategy and logic.

My shop is still with a gravel floor and unheated and rather primitive for working conditions. Until I
land steady employment, I am holding off on pushing the shop construction to keep my savings in reserve,
but after 3 years in AFG, I am eager to push the car forward in any way I can, even it is means working
in the dirt. At least I have a roof over my head and most of the tools to do the job (although now you
have me thinking about an overhead crane !)

I agree that understanding all you DON'T KNOW is very important. Much like my old employer's advice
that bodywork is largely about knowing when to STOP.

I have all the fancy laser stuff, but would need to get a solid floor under the car to use them with any
reliable point of reference. One more thing that needs to get done .....
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Posted 2014-01-01 2:36 PM (#419654 - in reply to #419651)
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The frame guy I know here runs his own general repair shop...but he spent 13 years as the main frame guy at the Ford dealer here in Houston. He's pulled more frames around in a week than a scumbag like me will ever do in his home shop. Luckily me car has not rust or accident issues but if it did the first thing I would do is to get him to ensure the frame was right.
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Posted 2014-01-01 7:26 PM (#419692 - in reply to #419521)
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Neil, I've had several PM requests for the paint daubs. Please post em.
Thanks Greg
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Posted 2014-01-01 7:39 PM (#419694 - in reply to #419651)
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Doc, it sure sounds like a comprehensive project. How far back do you want to "tear into". I know I've seen your work on here but my search didn't find. I don't remember at what stage of disassembly your car is now.
Greg
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Posted 2014-01-01 7:50 PM (#419697 - in reply to #398789)
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Calling my bluff, eh?

The first photo is what prompted my comment; the other T/Bar pics are spread out among
various non-Greg files, that I'll go research, tomorrow.

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Posted 2014-01-01 9:53 PM (#419717 - in reply to #419697)
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Oh, no Neil. I know better than to call your bluff---- at least when it comes to this stuff!!!
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Posted 2014-01-01 10:10 PM (#419724 - in reply to #419717)
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Calling Neil's bluff usually results in some great and informative posts.
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Posted 2014-01-01 10:29 PM (#419727 - in reply to #419724)
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s**t, Doc, don't give him a leg up yet!!
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Posted 2014-01-02 12:08 AM (#419738 - in reply to #419727)
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I have long supported Neil as a cornerstone resource in the hobby, in spite of also giving him
a rash about his abrasive tact (or lack thereof).

The man knows his sh!t and in our small niche corner of the world, one is fool to not respect
that.
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Posted 2014-01-02 1:26 AM (#419745 - in reply to #398789)
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Calling Neils bluff (99.99% of the time) will mean eating humble pie

I like the pipe idea Greg, but as both my cars are unit body cars, I dont need to steal that idea yet, but who knows

Love the work and happy to see (in your other thread) things are returning to normal

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Posted 2014-01-02 9:06 AM (#419770 - in reply to #419738)
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All I meant was we were waiting for the good stuff. Neil and I have been working together since the days of the "Early Hemi Association". I hate to admit how long ago that was!! Expensive phone calls and snail mail!

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Posted 2014-01-02 9:44 AM (#419774 - in reply to #419770)
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How many others remember the EHA? I forget the chap who started it --- a very knowledgeable man. He published a membership list including contact phone numbers and the pet interests of the members. As I recall, Neil was compiling info primarily on Dodge hemis for a book he wanted to publish. We touched base, realized that we had a common interest in 57 and 58 Dodges and the rest is history.

Neil knew cars and owners all over the continent and had extensive documentation on them. He had a friend in WI who had an incredible collection of 58 Dodge literature and I was restoring and parting out cars for any and all parts. We complimented one another and got a lot of work done!

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Posted 2014-01-02 12:59 PM (#419802 - in reply to #398789)
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"These are the rocker panels I made. The inners change shape all along so I made them in segments. Note the weld points. All made from galvanized steel."



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Posted 2014-01-02 1:02 PM (#419803 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-01-02 1:09 PM (#419806 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-01-02 1:25 PM (#419810 - in reply to #419806)
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Thanks for posting them for me Matt.
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Posted 2014-01-02 7:02 PM (#419869 - in reply to #398789)
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Spent a way-lot of time researching and re-organizing my photos, today.

Anyway, here's my photos of the 952/953 T/bars, which have white daubs on them, as seen.

The 952 has one daub and the 953 has two daubs--to ensure their proper installation
orientation on the chassis.

The 952/953 bars are optional/HD on the Custom Royals (which have sway bars on them),
but standard items on the Coronets, Royals and Furies (which are sway bar-less).

So, these bars, and their daubs, are common, like the 950/951 bars are (above/below), for the
other 57-58 Plymouths and the CRL's.

The 950 bar has one red daub; the 951 probably has two daubs, similarly to the 952/953 and
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Posted 2014-01-02 9:22 PM (#419909 - in reply to #398789)
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"The 'dusty rose' note is just a guess on my part. The only one I've seen!"

From a US built car.

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Posted 2014-01-02 10:52 PM (#419922 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-01-02 11:01 PM (#419923 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-01-03 1:42 AM (#419949 - in reply to #419909)
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Aside from many other distractions, if anyone wants to zoom in on the many facets of this thread please let me know.

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Posted 2014-01-03 3:02 AM (#419957 - in reply to #419949)
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Posted 2014-01-03 3:43 AM (#419961 - in reply to #419923)
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Posted 2014-01-03 10:34 AM (#419983 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-01-03 3:19 PM (#420027 - in reply to #398789)
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OK; so nobody wanted to guess....

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Posted 2014-01-03 4:23 PM (#420037 - in reply to #398789)
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when i did the 58 Canadian Dodge there was a Blue paint daub on the tailhousing of the trans, wonder if this is in relation to the diff markings for speedo drive pinion,

also this had the Green coloured torsion bars but i ended up painting them Black

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Posted 2014-01-03 10:43 PM (#420104 - in reply to #419983)
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Dave Schwandt, here, made a number of them years ago. Wonderful recreations!
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Posted 2014-01-03 10:52 PM (#420105 - in reply to #420037)
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Paul, the olive green bars that I recall seeing were in better general condition than anything else on the cars so I concluded that they were replacements. They were complete with part #s and paint daubs.
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Posted 2014-01-12 11:47 AM (#421655 - in reply to #420105)
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Am I to gather from the wealth of knowledge in this thread that the orange paint on my 60 Windsor's differential is original? This is a factory Sure Grip car.



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Posted 2014-01-12 12:17 PM (#421665 - in reply to #421655)
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I don't know much at all about '60. But I would think it would be an original assembly line ID mark.
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Posted 2014-01-15 1:32 PM (#422205 - in reply to #421665)
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I'm about to email some pics to Matt and ask him to post them for me. This is a fixture I designed to access a unibody for rust repair work.
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Posted 2014-01-15 2:26 PM (#422207 - in reply to #422205)
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Chris, what is the gear ratio that is stamped onto your Sure Grip, in the 'flat' area, as seen , above in photos #4667 and
#4668?

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Posted 2014-01-15 5:45 PM (#422236 - in reply to #398789)
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More 60 Photos from Greg.

"This is the only 60 I have worked on so these examples are from only one car. Others may be different."

Thanks Greg!!!! I always look forward to seeing your restoration photos.

Hope this helps some 60 owners/restorers out there.



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Posted 2014-01-15 8:29 PM (#422269 - in reply to #422236)
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"Back to the Regal body. I'll have to back track a bit:

#1. With the body resting on a frame and both doors undisturbed, jack, push, pull until all measurements you can take are the same both sides and the doors fit the best you can do.
You will be surprised at what you can accomplish!!
Then weld braces inside the body to hold this shape still allowing doors to open and close"



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Posted 2014-01-15 8:41 PM (#422272 - in reply to #398789)
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Tis is the carrier #1634985! Aka 742. This is on my original 60 windsor.
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Posted 2014-01-15 8:43 PM (#422273 - in reply to #398789)
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"#2. No photos for this.

Elevate body and trial fit 30" posts at all existing body mount positions between the body and the frame workbench. Very time consuming because there may only be 4 or so solid mounts and several fragile/rusty ones and the rest gone completely. Besides, one has to keep the posts vertical. Obviously, the more solid mounts there are the easier. This body was a REAL challenge!

#3. Weld braces wherever necessary to the body and workbench frame to secure everything with all 30" posts removed. Place all braces out of the way of future work. Weld only ONE side or edge of a brace so you can grind these welds a little and twist off the brace later without tearing whatever it was welded to."



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Posted 2014-01-15 9:20 PM (#422280 - in reply to #422273)
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"I had lots of salvaged floor and body mount panels separated and cleaned up before I started this car."



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Posted 2014-01-15 9:27 PM (#422282 - in reply to #422280)
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"#5. Earlier in this thread are front floor photos.

To remove the braces, torch cut the brace about a foot away from the body. The molten metal should simply fall away leaving a gap. If the brace jumps pulling apart or the gap closes you know there is tension somewhere. Take time to figure it out. I've been very lucky in this respect!!"



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Posted 2014-01-15 9:35 PM (#422284 - in reply to #398789)
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"#6. Make cardboard templates for all patches- cut out of new or salvaged material and weld in place and metal finish.

This 30"post system gives comfortable access for all this work."



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Posted 2014-01-15 9:41 PM (#422287 - in reply to #398789)
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All these intermittent welds get finished bit by bit. It is time consuming!
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Posted 2014-01-16 1:39 PM (#422370 - in reply to #422287)
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I forgot to mention a key point. Assuming the factory made the doors fit the body pretty well in the first place, don't loosen any hinge bolts. Make the now sagged body fit the doors and hold this shape with the braces. Then drill through one end of each hinge with a 1/8" bit and into either the door or body. Remove only these bolts to remove the door. You can rehang the door in exactly the same place each time by using a 1/8" drift.

I just used these doors as a reference. Better ones will be installed later.
Greg
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Posted 2014-01-17 10:25 PM (#422677 - in reply to #398789)
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"I had some large patch panels I had saved for this car. I normally don't like them because they fit over the original contours and make wheel well lips etc too large so I had to devise a method to be able to fit, work and remove these quarters.
I fit them over the existing quarters, trimmed them to fit and to where I wanted the cut to be on the body. Drilled the edges with 3/16" holes for aluminum pop rivets to hold it all in place.
This way I could easily drill out the rivets to remove the panel/s to access under them and later fix the lip contours. I had them off and on many times."



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Posted 2014-01-17 11:17 PM (#422685 - in reply to #398789)
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Thanks Matt,
I really appreciate it for posting these photos for me.
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Posted 2014-05-17 12:20 AM (#441163 - in reply to #422685)
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I haven't looked at this thread in months but judging by the number of downloads of these pics, do you guys want me to continue with the pic story?
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Posted 2014-05-17 12:37 AM (#441171 - in reply to #441163)
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That's like me asking you if you want to go on breathing ! Let's get those pix posted !
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Posted 2014-05-17 12:41 AM (#441175 - in reply to #441171)
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OK Doc, will do, but there is a process involved here. I'll work on it!
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Posted 2014-05-17 12:46 AM (#441177 - in reply to #441163)
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Posted 2014-05-17 10:32 AM (#441214 - in reply to #441177)
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Keep going with the pics Greg, I'm learning a lot from ' em, I've got no expertise when it comes to body work so I'm gaining a lot from your how-to pics

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Posted 2014-05-20 12:02 AM (#441551 - in reply to #441214)
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Thanks, Terry. I had a professional body man on staff at the time. I had the steel fabrication and welding experience but the body and paint and prep work expertise and tricks came from him. We only worked on cars between jobs but as I look back on it we had a lot of fun for a lot of years. Most of these pics were taken 15-25 years ago with point and shoot film cameras. I'm re photographing them with this iPad and will ask Matt to post 'em for me as I get them done.
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Posted 2014-06-02 1:45 AM (#443449 - in reply to #441551)
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No resto pics yet but I do have a report. My Regal needed a constant control ps steering gear rebuild. My 72 year old body isn't up to the task but I got some help from a young mechanic who I hired to help me. We got the job done in 2 hours today. We couldn't pull the pitman arm off so he will take it to his regular employment site and pull it. We hope!

Then, I will send to Lares for a rebuild.

Years ago I scoured junk yards for ps gears. I rented a SNAP-ON puller to pull a bunch of pitman arms. Some I couldn't pull! I ruined the puller!! Hey, time wIll tell.
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Posted 2014-06-02 3:15 AM (#443455 - in reply to #398789)
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Don't forget to make provisions for water intrusions to be able to escape from the body cavities....unlike the factory designers.

What were they (not-) thinking, when they designed the bodies?



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Posted 2014-06-02 9:19 AM (#443480 - in reply to #398789)
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That's an amazing body rebuild... not only the Swedes are great at this level of work! Given the extent of this restoration, only thing I might have done different is hold out for a better trunk floor that didn't need fiberglassing. What a car!
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Posted 2014-06-02 9:33 AM (#443483 - in reply to #443455)
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Thank you Greg and Neil for all of this fantastic information. The photos are incredibly helpful. I really appreciate all the time you've put into this. It will absolutely help other people with their restorations.
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Posted 2014-06-02 7:02 PM (#443523 - in reply to #443480)
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Thanks Roger. I tried to find a better trunk floor but the searching was done before we had the internet resources of today.

Thanks Danny. I'm pleased to hear it helps.
Greg
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:37 PM (#445258 - in reply to #443523)
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Here are the 40 amp generator photos I have been promising------I hope!!
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:41 PM (#445260 - in reply to #445258)
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:45 PM (#445261 - in reply to #445260)
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:48 PM (#445265 - in reply to #445261)
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I still can't make it work!
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Posted 2014-06-15 8:53 PM (#445268 - in reply to #445265)
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Try again.
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:00 PM (#445269 - in reply to #445268)
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You can do it Greg! I got faith in ya!
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:05 PM (#445271 - in reply to #445268)
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H u u g h h h----- better quit before I get too mad!
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:06 PM (#445273 - in reply to #445271)
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Notes didn't help? We had it going there.
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Posted 2014-06-15 9:16 PM (#445275 - in reply to #445273)
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Oh, Hi, Matt,
Yeah, thought I followed 'em. Just don't seem to have the same meaning as they did yesterday! You were very patient. Thanks. I'll mess about with it later.
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:39 PM (#445526 - in reply to #398789)
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40 amp generator photos , again, I hope!
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:49 PM (#445528 - in reply to #398789)
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I wonder what happened to the rest of the photos?! Maybe try submitting again and again?
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:52 PM (#445529 - in reply to #398789)
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Try it.
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:53 PM (#445530 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-17 10:58 PM (#445531 - in reply to #398789)
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Here it is installed on my Regal Lancer.
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:32 PM (#445534 - in reply to #398789)
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The car with the steering column and gear itself removed. This may be of interest to 1960 and later car owners. Steering gears on 57-59 cars are generally removed from inside the car by lifting the access plate under the front carpet. The car is jacked up at the front only to remove the pitman arm or, in my case, revolve it to clear exhaust pipe and torsion bar so it can be lifted into the car.
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:47 PM (#445536 - in reply to #398789)
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Steering gear off to Lares for rebuild. The car as is today. Some neat shots of a Regal interior.
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:52 PM (#445537 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-17 11:54 PM (#445538 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-06-18 1:12 AM (#445545 - in reply to #398789)
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Anyone notice that my NEW, supposedly correct w/s doesn't have the proper "bubble". Hey, the wipers clear it and it doesn't leak. Gotta give thanks for the good stuff, I guess!! NEW means 2001. Here's the story!

I ordered the w/s from LOF glass search and it was delivered to my friend in NY. I went to pick it up on 9-11-01. I had just crossed the border into NY when the radio news went into shock. I tuned to a Syracuse station and don't remember how/when I even got to his place. Myself and everyone else was just numb!!!

I don't give a s**t how it looks. This is a part of the history of the car.!! Time can't erase this!
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Posted 2014-06-19 2:45 PM (#445748 - in reply to #445545)
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Hi, Greg -

My convertible windshield is exactly the same! Also supposedly a correct W23(?) bubble. I guess they just don't make bubbles like they used to!
What a story about the pick up. A day none of us will forget.
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Posted 2014-06-19 4:02 PM (#445767 - in reply to #445748)
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What does that LOF 'bubble' W/S cost?

That carpeting looks very much like the OEM style: sheared cut pile (in a flat roll).

Greg: all that work, and your car has BLACK wheels?????


BTW (as you may recall), there was supposed to have been only two color-versions for the Regal: gold-with black
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Posted 2014-06-22 3:50 PM (#446108 - in reply to #445767)
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d500neil - 2014-06-19 4:02 PM

What does that LOF 'bubble' W/S cost?

That carpeting looks very much like the OEM style: sheared cut pile (in a flat roll).

Greg: all that work, and your car has BLACK wheels?????


BTW (as you may recall), there was supposed to have been only two color-versions for the Regal: gold-with black
(like yours) and gold-with-white.

The other two versions were 'late' pre-production decisions.


Neil, I don't remember what the w/s cost. Too long ago. It certainly wasn't cheap!!

I bought the carpet from the 300 club. Supposedly luxurious enough for an F. So-------- I used it!

The wheels are new aftermarket. They came black and look good on a black/copper car.

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Posted 2014-07-09 1:00 AM (#448417 - in reply to #446108)
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My steering gear is back from Lares. Looks good but time will tell. As I mentioned earlier, I had a young mechanic to help me remove the gear and I also had a list of other little ailments that needed attention. It has been close to 15 years since I did the restoration on that car!!

Anyway, the speedo had been making noises and the needle (drum) was erratic, so, we pulled the speedo cables. YES, cables. The car has autopilot. The cables were salvaged from junkyard cars and, after all, had lasted for 15 years!!

For some reason I googled;"how to purchase a speedo cable". Led me to Speedometer Service Co in Minn. spoke to Roger and he knew exactly what I needed. I couldn't believe it!! For a little more than $100.00 he made both of them and vinyl covered them. They came today and look great!

It will be a couple weeks or so before we get a chance to get it all back together.
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:08 AM (#448420 - in reply to #448417)
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Hey, Greg....you sent them your own gear, but, did Lares do anything to polish its case?

YEARS ago, I had Moores wrecking yard (in SD) drop ship a (nasty-) P/S gearbox to Lares.

Never saw it, before receiving it from Lares, but Lares had merely flat-black painted the case.

After removing that 'paint', discovered that the horrible case-condition had merely been covered up, by Lares.

Got it all wire-wheeled polished-out, and then clear-coated the 'crap' outta it, to preserve its Holiness...

As posted elsewhere, with the STANDARD (whatever that means) Lares adjustment, I am completely satisfied with Lares' overhaul
work (but not with their external cover-up of its case's condition.



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Posted 2014-07-09 1:31 AM (#448424 - in reply to #448420)
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They got it correct now, Neil. Probably because you said something!! The 58, of course, is cast steel and they, in fact, asked me if I wanted it left natural (for me to finish) or, to do it their way. I chose the latter and I will post pics of the finished product before I install it. At this point, I'm happy.
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Posted 2014-07-09 1:47 AM (#448427 - in reply to #448424)
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With respect to "adjustment". They also asked if I wanted it firmer. I said No. It was another bunch of money and, to be perfectly honest, I don't like 58 and later PS "feel"in ANY dimension! I much prefer the 57 co-axial PS feel. But, each to his own!! No way I was going to pay more for something I really didn't want in the first place!! But, again, time will tell when it is installed.
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Posted 2014-08-12 12:12 AM (#452550 - in reply to #448427)
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Well, I/we finally got the Regal back together. The Lares PS gear rebuild is, in fact, GREAT. They DID make it firmer even though they said it would be at extra cost. I like it!! I really didn't think I would!

The speedo is nice and smooth and quiet with the new cables. We fixed a few other nuisance things as well.

About three years ago (this car gets very few miles on it each year) I went to put it into service and the brakes were a mess. Simple adjustment wouldn't fix 'em so I pulled the system all apart. Everything was rusty junk. MC and all wheel cylinders. Needless to say this was not the first time after the complete restoration some years ago. I ordered everything new from Andy Burnbaum, AGAIN, but this time I used DOT 5.

Right now I have a very low but very effective brake pedal. I also have no brake lights and, guess what, I am getting fluid leaking at the hydraulic switch. All is not so easy. The car has auto pilot which has two "automatic" disconnect switches. One is easy. It is a mechanical switch bolted to the brake pedal linkage. The other is a hydraulic pressure switch installed at the MC by means of a tee threaded into the MC. This tee has the hydraulic auto pilot disconnect switch screwed into one end and the hydraulic stop light connect switch screwed into the other end. I would have to assume that both of these switches are ruined by the silicone fluid.

After a few miles of aggressive speeds and braking the car stops evenly-- good news. Low pedal---maybe just shoe/drum adjustment. We'll find out in a couple weeks. To convert the stop light switch to a mechanical one is very simple. To somehow invent a second (back up) disconnect switch for the the auto pilot is definately not so simple.

Anyone have ideas? Do later than 58 auto pilots use two auto disconnect switches?

The best news is that I have had a chance to drive a REAL land yacht around for a few miles---- with more to come!!

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That 'firmness' you feel is their standard-adjustment; you just forgot, or never knew, what real power steering control feels like.

It's wonderful..but to enjoy it, fully, the entire front suspension needs to be renovated and a proper alignment be dialed-in, with
positive caster, and oh yeah; new tires, too.

It all works together, and when it works together, it's Beethoven's 5th....(or at least, Knob Creek's)...at work.



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Posted 2014-08-12 1:30 AM (#452566 - in reply to #452563)
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Always nice to hear from confrontational Neil! So, tell me me, when was the last time you had to spend a few hours driving a 58 or later PS car??
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Posted 2014-08-12 4:22 PM (#452658 - in reply to #398789)
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A few hours driving a 58+?

Ah, never, unfortunately.

Do you have a receipt, etc., from Lares confirming that they installed more-than-standard steering box adjustment?

Is your "hydraulic switch" leaking at/on the master cylinder?

If so, teflon tape will solve that problem.

As reported elsewhere, by others and mesef, a properly dialed in steering system should have virtually no dead/free-play
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Posted 2014-08-14 12:13 AM (#452849 - in reply to #452658)
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I only have long time experience with 57 and 58 Mopars. My opinion is that with 58, constant control PS, I have NO road "feel" at all, whereas for 57 co-axial PS there is at least some "road" feel. Others may disagree but I, for this reason, prefer the 57 as I stated earlier.

Again, my experience is that either 57 or 58 systems require very little effort to turn the wheel. The rebuild I just got requires somewhat more effort. I didn't pay any more for this "firmer" feel and therefore have no reason to believe that this is not Lares standard. The note from them was something to the effect that everything had been calibrated and adjusted properly and should require no more adjustment. Anything to the contrary, contact them first!

It is Bang On!! No "dead spot", no adjustment required, take your hands off the wheel while forcefully braking or accelerating----- perfect!!! Thank you to ALL who recommended I use Lares. I am very happy with it.

Neil, I don't know where the leak is. All those fittings were installed with Teflon tape and haven't leaked in several years. All I care about is that the brake lights no longer function. A little leaking Dot 5 doesn't hurt anything!! I am much more concerned that the silicone has also destroyed the auto pilot hydraulic disconnect switch as well.

I have lots of spare stop light switches. They are simple "normally open" switches. The auto pilot ones are a whole different item. They are "normally closed" switches!!! Nobody has those!

This OEM master cylinder arrangement of switches may be of interest to others. Hard to get a photo of it but I will try.

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Posted 2014-08-14 2:07 AM (#452863 - in reply to #398789)
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I tell ya, Jim Hoek and Matt Keij have both driven H. at some speed, and they could tell you about the GREAT amount of road feel that
a "1957" Lares system can provide (along with all of the other necessary adjustments and refinements that go into a proper handling car).

Maybe a considerable amount of that road feel/response comes from the van-rated Diamondback tires which are inflated to over 40 psi.

MAN, I wish that I could score another set of them!

They are not, supposedly, still being imported to this country.





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Hydraulic switches.
Brass tee threads into the end of mc. Auto pilot cancel switch threads into the top of the tee and the stop light switch into the bottom.



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Looks like the leak may be occurring at the upper switch (and/or at the T's connection to the M/C).

Ah, the joys of manual steering and brakes & trannie (I understand...).


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These are my convertible folding top reference photos for dodge/ Plymouth 57to59. They may help someone.



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I frequently get asked about the electric window harness routing for 57/58. I took these of the Regal.
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Posted 2014-11-06 10:25 PM (#461222 - in reply to #398789)
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While looking for pics for the " Usual Suspects" I came across these. My shop in the good old days!

My 57 Coro in the foreground, then my 58 4 dr and my 67 GTX convert project in the rear.
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Posted 2014-11-06 10:31 PM (#461225 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-11-06 10:36 PM (#461226 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2014-11-07 10:24 AM (#461244 - in reply to #461226)
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Good stuff, Greg! The good old days: they were inexpensive and plentiful!
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Posted 2014-11-07 2:17 PM (#461264 - in reply to #461244)
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Lancer Mike - 2014-11-07 10:24 AM

The good old days: they were inexpensive and plentiful!


Very true, Mike. The assignment was as simple as don't come home without two unwanted 57/58 Mopars!!

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Posted 2014-11-07 4:08 PM (#461268 - in reply to #398789)
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The days of buying $50-$200 decent cars is long gone, in the early '80's sometimes folks would tell you "Just get that thing outta here!"

Thanks for keeping this thread going, it's invaluable to me when trying to reassemble my project.

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John, after following your thread I can't think of how I could help much, but, thanks anyway!!
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I have more pics of my Regal Lancer restoration.

Even though there was a lot of finish welding to do I knew I had a serious problem that I had to fix. In spite of pulling outward on the quarter panel as I was doing the intermittent plug welding, a large area " caved in". Here are photos as I try to fix it.



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When the body was bolted down on my "paint frame", I bolted a length of flat bar to the inside of the q panel with 3, 1/4" eye bolts. I secured the trunk geometry with a cable puller between the tail light holes and put a series of bungee cords pulling from the shop wall to the eye bolts. Pulling as hard as it would without pulling the car sideways.

Then I beat a heavy hammer repeatedly all along the length of that flat bar. I could check progress with a straight edge as shown. GOT IT !!

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I can't find any of my pics showing the finish welding, metal finish, light sand blasting or levelling and priming.

Anyway, the best way I know to see if the panels are level is to paint it gloss black and check it in the sunlight.

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That is REAL silver cadmium plating!! IIRC, maybe early 90s, and it cost $45.00 a barrel of small parts. Up to 50lbs or so. The last time I was at that platers he told me that his cadmium and chrome plating tanks and solutions no longer met impending EPA standards and he wouldn't be doing them any more. His business would change to zinc, copper and nickel plating as well as electrolytic deplating and anodizing.

Can't say I'm sorry! Those heavy metals are biochemical non-competitive blocking agents. Once released they do their job forever! The contents of those tanks, once spent, were dumped into the storm sewers and into the nearest water shed! The double whammy problem, of course, was that all commercial chrome and cadmium platers used arsenic baths!!

But, cad. plated parts were very durable and sure looked good. Just don't put 'em in your mouth!!!

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The stuff to the left of the u-bolts are my old, vintage firehose recreations of the the rubber impregnated canvas isolators used on all 57-59 Mopars that insulated the rear springs from the axle both top and bottom. They were used
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In the picture above, where it says 'tape', you can see the curved 'finger' that must be correctly aligned in order for the power brake booster to engage properly. If the pedal is allowed to fully release, such as in the picture, there is a chance that the finger will go out of alignment and the booster will not activate. I have tied down the pedals on my spare pedal assemblies so that this won't happen.

In the 58 Plymouth shop manual, there is an illustration of a gauge that can be made to ensure proper alignment.

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Posted 2015-04-11 12:59 AM (#475054 - in reply to #398789)
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So, my car's braking system works fine, except that the power brake pedal NOISILY 'thunks' forward, to its
full-resting position, when the pedal is released.

The rest of the car's systems work fine; I'm wondering, now, if I can visualize the "two plastic bushings".

Where would the bushings be found?

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The 58 CDN Dodge Custom Poyal engine I installed in that car. 354 poly.

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Restoration finished in the spring of 2002. Just awaiting the insurance appraiser.

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This pic taken on its maiden voyage to the 300 club meet in Rhode Island, spring 2002.

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Posted 2015-04-11 2:56 PM (#475089 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-11 7:55 PM (#475119 - in reply to #475089)
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Good question. Depends on how I value my time! Except for the plating, the seats and the paint, I did the whole thing myself after hours and over a number of years.

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I get asked the same question, but you cant value it unless your building it for a customer 9or to sell), where you clock time and track parts

People that are building up a car for the enjoyment of doing it tend not to do either and, most of the time, would prefer not to know, even if someone else (normally the wife ) does track it

No fun spending 50 or 60k in parts and time on a car worth 20k if your planning on selling it

The gap might not be as big on the high end cars, but stuff you might leave on a lower car, you would have to do on a high end car and that would drive the restoration price higher

Anyway, love this car, the colour combination and general look is brilliant

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Thanks, Mick. I think I would be too embarrassed to even admit how many hours I had in that project!!

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When I was first disassembling the car and had taken the seats out, I was on my knees on what was left of the carpet trying to remove the instrument panel. A fun job by yourself at the best of time! All of a sudden I had an awful sharp pain in my right knee. When I got out I found a CONCRETE nail driven under the kneecap! I got immediate medical treatment.


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Posted 2015-04-11 10:34 PM (#475141 - in reply to #398789)
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How about a New topic! I had learned that this car could possibly be bought. I took some pics and rubbings of the VIN and body plate and sent them to Gil Cunningham and I ordered Wayne Graefens handbook.

Everything seemed to check out so I bought the car. Here are the initial pics.

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Posted 2015-04-11 10:51 PM (#475142 - in reply to #398789)
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You'll notice that it is the last car in the driveway. No way I'm gonna buy a 300 C without driving it!

After a hairy trip at 75 + mph on a gravel road on junk tires and no brakes ----- let's do this deal!

Anybody want me to continue with these resto pics?!

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Posted 2015-04-11 11:12 PM (#475146 - in reply to #398789)
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Of coarse Greg

The resto threads and for sale threads are the main reason I am here (and if I can help along the way or learn something, all the better)

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Posted 2015-04-12 3:21 AM (#475163 - in reply to #398789)
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I will never put a fowardlook on the road until I know its safe to drive. My dad is the same way
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Posted 2015-04-12 10:21 AM (#475179 - in reply to #475141)
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Enjoy the process on the 'new' 300C, Greg.   I've just put another back on the road that was in a Texas shed since 1977.   Runs/ drives/ safe but no cosmetics!   Your restoration and documentation work is the gold standard.   Wayne





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Posted 2015-04-12 11:11 AM (#475196 - in reply to #475142)
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Anybody want me to continue with these resto pics?!

Greg


Absolutely! Please continue. This thread is great fun and valuable information.
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Posted 2015-04-12 1:53 PM (#475215 - in reply to #398789)
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The Dodge is a true work of art Greg - thaks' for sharing all those Pictures - a virtual gold mine for renovators!
A Dodge with AutoPilot and Power brakes must have been very ráre. As I understand, the AutoPilots came as dealer mounted on Dodges?!
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Posted 2015-04-12 4:46 PM (#475235 - in reply to #475179)
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Thanks, Wayne. Your handbook provided the "road map", I just followed the trail!

Well done getting another C on the road.

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Posted 2015-04-12 4:52 PM (#475237 - in reply to #475196)
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Thanks, Mike. I had a lot of fun doing these cars.

Thanks, Wizard. I also think auto pilot was a dealer add on. Must have been quite expensive. It needs a special steering column jacket. I found it on a junkyard car and didn't know what it was at first. The underhood stuff was missing. I got the missing bits from a Chrysler.

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Posted 2015-04-12 4:54 PM (#475238 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-12 5:33 PM (#475241 - in reply to #475238)
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Some (many) years-ago, Wayne called-me-out/took-issue-with my contention that Horrie's
vinyl fuel filler cover(ing) was OEM to the car.

Wayne asked; "Where's the Part Number on it"?

I couldn't find one or a reference to that cover(ing) in the Good Book.

Subsequently, found what appears to be an identical cover(ing) on a 1958 CRL D500, that was featured in a Speed Age
road test, and have seen other contemporary photos of cars with identical-appearing cover(ings) on their
fuel filler tubes.

The cover(ings)' IDENTICAL appearance and their existence can not be mere coincidences.

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Posted 2015-04-12 6:27 PM (#475249 - in reply to #475241)
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Neil. I found three of them. A green one in my 57 vert. I made patterns for them. The weird part is that they were all made from 2 pieces of vinyl with no apparent reason to do this. Compare the sewn seam in your pic to mine. Both the same (about 6-8" from the floor)! They came from a single source.

No part number that I found.

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Posted 2015-04-12 6:33 PM (#475250 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-12 9:33 PM (#475278 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-12 9:35 PM (#475279 - in reply to #398789)
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Hi Greg,

on the Regal Lancer do you have a picture of the firewall, where the heater blower fits, on Joe`s and mine there is a rectangle not painted as if there was a masked sheet on there or something?

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Posted 2015-04-12 9:51 PM (#475283 - in reply to #475279)
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springsweptwing - 2015-04-12 9:35 PM

Hi Greg,

on the Regal Lancer do you have a picture of the firewall, where the heater blower fits, on Joe`s and mine there is a rectangle not painted as if there was a masked sheet on there or something?

Paul.


I see that. It looks about the size of a broadcast sheet? They are 8 1/2" X 5 1/2". I don't remember seeing it on mine.

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Posted 2015-04-12 9:58 PM (#475284 - in reply to #475283)
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Posted 2015-04-13 7:28 PM (#475371 - in reply to #398789)
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I was surprised to see areas of unpainted, bare steel. I checked under sheet metal fasteners--- you will see the results. It appears that the body was painted with all major sheet metal parts installed!

I doubt that I or other restorers would do it this way!!!

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Posted 2015-04-13 7:45 PM (#475375 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-14 8:01 PM (#475494 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-14 8:27 PM (#475496 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-15 12:41 AM (#475516 - in reply to #475496)
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DAYUMM, you're way ahead of my reading, Greg!

But, (at least:) one correction, from way-above here:

The Dodge D501 torsion bars were NOT OEM to the Furys...but could have been purchased as Optional
Equipment to them.

The OEM-standard Fury T/bars are 952/953 (which are also the standard bars on the (non-sway-bar-available) 57
Coronet & Royal models.

The optional (Heavy Duty/Taxi) 57 Coro/Royal bars are the 956/957 bars, which were installed as 'standard' equipment on
the 57 D501 RACE CARS (--which ALL D501's were built-as--regardless of their other optional items on them---)

The 956/957 T/bars were optional equipment on the Furys and Coro/Royals).





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Posted 2015-04-15 12:45 AM (#475517 - in reply to #398789)
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Greg, can you send me an image of your GREEN gas filler covering?

On another thread (IIRC), I sent you a poor image of a GOLD colored vinyl gas filler pipe covering.

So, we now know of : Black, Gold, and Green gas filler pipe coverings!!

All we need to find, now, is a BLUE covering.


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Posted 2015-04-15 7:02 PM (#475588 - in reply to #475517)
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d500neil - 2015-04-15 12:45 AM

Greg, can you send me an image of your GREEN gas filler covering?





I don't have any pics of it and, unfortunately, all my patterns and samples for carpet, and anything "upholstery" went to the dump years ago! I had no idea anyone would be interested in it. Besides, I had the space rented to the chap who bought my trailer manufacturing business.

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Posted 2015-04-15 7:26 PM (#475598 - in reply to #475588)
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Oops, found one I made for my Coronet. Same colour as the one I found. The Coronet and vert were the same colour.

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Posted 2015-04-15 7:31 PM (#475600 - in reply to #475588)
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...and that's why things become "collectable".

But, I will, still, quote you, in Re: the existence of green-colored-vinyl, fuel filler covering.



THAT...is the 'green' color, for the filler tube????

The Continental kit looks to be more-green than that vinyl, but you're saying that that vinyl
is a 'perfect' match to the former filler tube????

(BTW, years ago, tried to buy that "tan" trunk cardboard from G. Goers, but got, instead, the cardboard in
GRAY.....altho my car was built with the slightly-different-style "tan" hardboard trunk liner panels.

Definitely prefer the 'tan' motif/style, to the gray-style, but, the latter's construction design IS
better than the former's---it's easier to install, without having to tear-up the hardboard, in
installing it, behind/around the fuel filler pipe.

And, no: I don't want to mess with trying to move the fuel filler pipe, merely to install
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Posted 2015-04-15 8:21 PM (#475607 - in reply to #475600)
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Not perfect but close. The same as the seat vinyl (NOS) that I got for the vert from SMS.

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Posted 2015-04-15 11:51 PM (#475623 - in reply to #398789)
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Here are a couple photos that I found in an album. This is one of the cars that started this thread. It is Hersey 1995 and the chap looking at my car is John Whitaker. Some of you will remember him. A devoted '58 Dodge guy that promoted our FL cars at every opportunity, you know, back in the days when our cars were hated by a lot of people!!

This was a typical car show class. A Chev on one side of me and a T-Bird on the other side! I'll tell you what! I was as proud as hell when I won that class!!
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Posted 2015-04-16 2:04 AM (#475633 - in reply to #475623)
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Yeah, well, you abundantly deserved that win; i remember those days.

John was quite a guy; RIP.

Your original 'caption', to this photo was: "John Whittaker, looking for faults (there were none) on my car."

What ultimately became of this car?


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Posted 2015-04-16 9:17 PM (#475723 - in reply to #475633)
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What ultimately became of this car?




The last I heard was what someone mentioned at the beginning of this thread.

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Posted 2015-04-16 9:21 PM (#475724 - in reply to #475723)
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Back to the C. As I hinted at earlier, we painted the fenders, inner fenders and hood etc. all separately and the body was mounted high on the paint frame for initial paint.

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Posted 2015-04-16 9:36 PM (#475725 - in reply to #398789)
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The body was lowered down on the 6" posts, the front end sheet metal was all fit and installed and all was prepped for final paint.

My particular car had everything painted over, even the rubber air and splash shields. The trunk latch and striker plate as well as the rubber trunk lid stops were painted over.

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Posted 2015-04-16 9:53 PM (#475728 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-16 10:05 PM (#475731 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-17 8:26 PM (#475818 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-17 8:49 PM (#475821 - in reply to #398789)
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Any inside the car work or heavy work like installing the windshield, back glass and instrument panel was all done with the body bolted to the paint frame.

Followed by body drop and very carefully shimming at every body (as required) to get even contact between body and frame and then torquing to specs.

Bumpers being installed.

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Posted 2015-04-17 9:07 PM (#475823 - in reply to #398789)
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I found a material to take the place of the mastic that was sprayed on the inner surfaces of the body. Last pic and next one show it. It is aluminized mobile home roof coating. It is asphalt based, provides excellent sound deadening, insulation against heat and absolutely water proof. The downside is that if applied thickly (like we want to) it takes a very long time to dry. I used it on all my cars..

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Posted 2015-04-17 9:09 PM (#475824 - in reply to #398789)
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I found a material to take the place of the mastic that was sprayed on the inner surfaces of the body. Last pic and next one show it. It is aluminized mobile home roof coating. It is asphalt based, provides excellent sound deadening, insulation against heat and absolutely water proof. The downside is that if applied thickly (like we want to) it takes a very long time to dry. I used it on all my cars..

More assembly.

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Posted 2015-04-17 9:11 PM (#475825 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-18 8:50 PM (#475915 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-18 9:07 PM (#475918 - in reply to #398789)
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Under the fender undercoating was done at about the end of the assembly process. This would be typical overspray patterns.

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Posted 2015-04-18 9:15 PM (#475919 - in reply to #398789)
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These are the last of the 300C photos.

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Posted 2015-04-18 9:29 PM (#475921 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-20 12:56 AM (#476058 - in reply to #475163)
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1961plymouthfury - 2015-04-12 3:21 AM

I will never put a fowardlook on the road until I know its safe to drive. My dad is the same way


I have been reading your thread from the start and I have a few questions.

How old are you? If old enough to pilot a car and can't yet master an air sander, should I be worried about driving on the same roads as you??

Watching your thread I would have to wonder how you would ever be able to evaluate a car to determine whether or not it was safe to drive!!?

Just asking the RATHER OBVIOUS questions. YOU came on my thread and set the ball in motion! So, ----- Deal with it!

In any case, I wish you all the best with your project.

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Greg, are the wiring harnesses in your car new or do you restore them? If they are new, where do you get them from?
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Posted 2015-04-20 5:24 AM (#476066 - in reply to #398789)
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Posted 2015-04-20 6:10 AM (#476075 - in reply to #398789)
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I agree with Wizard.
Great pictures for futur reference.
Incredible job Greg!!!!

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Posted 2015-04-20 6:01 PM (#476135 - in reply to #476075)
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Amazing stuff, Greg. Thank you so much for posting these.

Please tell me more about the horn relay. I haphazardly put the "triad" horn option in my De Soto, but I just wired it from the existing Spartan horn terminal on the driver side to the AutoLite terminal on the passenger side. When the engine is revved up, the triad honks nicely, at idle the honker is not too honkey.
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Posted 2015-04-20 7:17 PM (#476139 - in reply to #398789)
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Thanks guys. I must admit that I felt a little old when I was going through that photo album. It is almost 20 years since I did that car!! I'm sure research and documentation has progressed since then.

Mike, it sounds like a voltage thing with your horns. I suppose the contacts in the relay could be pitted and/or corroded. I really posted those pics to show the original terminals, I didn't mean to imply that I have first hand knowledge of the internals.

Todd, I make wiring harnesses for 57 - early 60s Mopars. I will post some pics of it soon.

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Posted 2015-04-20 7:39 PM (#476140 - in reply to #476139)
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Some of the supplies for the harnesses. Trays show all kinds of OEM, original terminals and connectors, some of which are obsolete and have been for many years. Also a tray of modern terminals.

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Posted 2015-04-20 7:44 PM (#476141 - in reply to #476140)
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Posted 2015-04-20 7:51 PM (#476142 - in reply to #476141)
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Full size harness board for instrument panel/underhood harness for 57/58 Chryslers. Most terminals were different 57 to 58 but the routing and taping were the same.



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Posted 2015-04-20 7:54 PM (#476143 - in reply to #476142)
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Close up of some of that board.



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Posted 2015-04-20 7:58 PM (#476144 - in reply to #476143)
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I have a box of patterns of all the wires that fit that board. Here are all new wires on top of the board to make a new harness.



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Posted 2015-04-20 8:03 PM (#476146 - in reply to #476144)
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Here is the new 57 harness taped as original.



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Posted 2015-04-20 8:05 PM (#476147 - in reply to #476146)
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Posted 2015-04-20 8:07 PM (#476148 - in reply to #476147)
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I'll get some close ups of areas of that harness.

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Posted 2015-05-12 9:47 PM (#478111 - in reply to #398789)
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Greg,

here are some pictures of rims off the Desoto, the electrofuse rim looks to be dated 59?

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Posted 2015-05-13 1:20 AM (#478118 - in reply to #478111)
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Thanks for posting, Paul. My research doesn't extend any further than what Wayne's handbook told me where and what to look for with respect to Chrysler wheels. I don't know what Desoto did.

Perhaps Wayne can shed more light on this?!

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Here is another ELECTROFUSE wheel looks to be dated 58, has a part number on so may be a replacement from dealers?



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Hi Greg,

on a factory undersealed car, was the inside fully undersealed also, my Regal looks to have been apart from the inside trunk floor and underside of Hood?

thanks Paul.
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Posted 2015-05-18 1:18 PM (#478661 - in reply to #478642)
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The interior floor surfaces were coated with that "mastic" stuff and may be well covered or not very well covered! Huge differences from car to car.

Factory undercoat was only applied to the underside of the body and before it was dropped onto the frame.

57 Dodge hoods appear to have been undercoated. 58, some say had under pads. I have only seen one that looked even a little like original? It was on this site. A 4dr sedan I think, I thought I did a screen shot of that pic but I guess not.

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Posted 2015-05-18 10:22 PM (#478743 - in reply to #478118)
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Paul and Greg,  I'm not sure what the question is regarding wheels and Electrofuse.  Perhaps clearly stated I can attempt to help.

Is this helpful???:   at  http://www.classicchambered.com/classic/wheels.html#quote

 

 
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"ELECTROFUSE" 14x5.5 K.

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Posted 2015-05-19 1:43 AM (#478759 - in reply to #478743)
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Thanks, Wayne. Good info and an excellent source. Wheels are an on-going problem. Nobody could be more critical about wheels than me. When I get a wheel from any source, used, new or otherwise, the first thing is take it to my guy who will spin the wheel only on his spin balancer and check it for both radial and lateral runout. It has been a while and I don't remember my tolerances, but they were "tight"! Wheels that fail went into the scrap bucket. I now see that I would have been more helpful to others had I sent them to these people to re-man!! Hey, spilt milk!

The good ones, I returned to the OEM theatre. Some were painted dark gray, some white, some light gray and some silver. For 57, Dodge, the factory over sprayed the outer portions of some wheels with the major body colour of the car they were to be installed on. What a forensic dogs breakfast that is to unravall!!

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Posted 2015-05-19 2:51 AM (#478765 - in reply to #398789)
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Electrofuse was the method of manufacturing probably the spinning 2 halves together and them melding together as I have seen done before .
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That wheel has "MW "Stamped into them which Is Motor Wheel Coproration , as only Motor Wheel Corp , Budd, and Kelsey Hayes made steel wheels back then to my knowledge

Scroll to the very bottom to see the info about Electrofuse . It also has all the wheel listing for Mopars

http://jholst.net/tires-wheels/MotorWheelCat_1964a.pdf

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Posted 2015-05-19 5:58 AM (#478775 - in reply to #478661)
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The interior floor surfaces were coated with that "mastic" stuff and may be well covered or not very well covered! Huge differences from car to car.

Factory undercoat was only applied to the underside of the body and before it was dropped onto the frame.

57 Dodge hoods appear to have been undercoated. 58, some say had under pads. I have only seen one that looked even a little like original? It was on this site. A 4dr sedan I think, I thought I did a screen shot of that pic but I guess not.

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Greg, Neil had these posted years ago.



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Posted 2015-05-19 9:55 AM (#478788 - in reply to #478765)
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The Adventurer - 2015-05-19 1:51 AM Electrofuse was the method of manufacturing probably the spinning 2 halves together and them melding together as I have seen done before . , That wheel has "MW "Stamped into them which Is Motor Wheel Coproration , as only Motor Wheel Corp , Budd, and Kelsey Hayes made steel wheels back then to my knowledge Scroll to the very bottom to see the info about Electrofuse . It also has all the wheel listing for Mopars http://jholst.net/tires-wheels/MotorWheelCat_1964a.pdf

It is a great catalog however I am unable to identify any of the M-W painted or chromed wire spoke wheels in the listings.  Are they there?

 

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Posted 2015-05-19 6:05 PM (#478841 - in reply to #398789)
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The 1958 Dodges did not have "undercoated" hoods...like the 57 Dodges have on them.

The 1957 undercoating, besides being permanently installed, is simple to restore; just mask-off the rest of the
car, or hood, and paint the underside of the hood in gloss black paint.

In the above photo, note that the A/C equipped 58 Dodges only had under-hood room to accommodate
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Posted 2015-05-22 11:58 PM (#479127 - in reply to #478841)
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Here are a few pics of interesting "fun" topics that I came across in my albums.

The first is a 57 Dodge underhood pic sent to me by someone. Note that the "factory" undercoating looks a whole lot more like "mastic" than undercoater!!

Check out the underhood light!

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Posted 2015-05-23 12:01 AM (#479128 - in reply to #398789)
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I found this tag wired to a body mount on one of my 58 CDN, Dodges. Anyone else seen something like this?

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Posted 2015-05-23 12:02 AM (#479129 - in reply to #479128)
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Plain or black painted gas tank straps have been a question before. Here are both.

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Posted 2015-05-23 12:09 AM (#479131 - in reply to #398789)
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An interesting difference between 57 and 58 Dodge rear 5-hole plate/shock mounts.

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Posted 2015-05-23 12:38 AM (#479134 - in reply to #398789)
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Anyone interested in taking "factory originality" to the extreme? Here are factory on-line ball joints. NOT factory replacements or NOS. These on-line joints had DPCD logos stamped on their tops. The only ones I ever saw to do so.

Too bad my old film, point and shoot camera couldn't capture that DPCD image.

Knowing me there is a good chance I packaged and kept them. If so I might be able to get a current digital image of them. I doubt anyone today really cares!!

In the meantime, check out the metal "washers" or retainers the factory used to protect these joints. Too bad that they didn't work very well or last that long!!!



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Posted 2015-05-23 10:39 PM (#479199 - in reply to #479194)
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Yes, original. Thanks for sharing those photos! Probably don't see these very often today.

How did/do they feel? Loose and worn out or can you reuse them?

Greg
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Posted 2016-02-07 8:28 AM (#503455 - in reply to #398789)
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Wiring a 59 and later heater A/C switch.

First photo shows the three wires from the main instrument panel harness. For A/C, the black wire goes to the top tab on the back of the heat A/C switch.

The brown wire plugs to the single brown wire of the A/C harness.

The green wire goes to the blower switch.

Next photos are the separate A/C harness. The two pole connector ( two brown and a green) plugs to the blower switch.

The blue wire goes to the horizontal tab on the heat A/C switch

The brown plugs to the brown of the main harness ( as mentioned above)

The combination brown/green goes to the vertical tab on the heat A/C switch

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Posted 2016-02-07 9:27 AM (#503460 - in reply to #398789)
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To complete the story, both A/C and non A/C cars use the same main instrument panel harness so the three wires shown in photo one would apply to either car.

For non A/C:

The green goes to the centre tab on the heat only switch

The brown goes to the top side tab on the switch

The black goes to the bottom tab on the switch

Greg
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Posted 2016-02-07 11:50 AM (#503479 - in reply to #479129)
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Try again!



I've never seen one before, but those are my initials!! I gotta have it on my 58 Dodge! haha



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Posted 2016-02-07 7:06 PM (#503526 - in reply to #503479)
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David, I knew there was a good reason to save it all those years ago!!

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Posted 2016-02-07 8:30 PM (#503539 - in reply to #503526)
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David, I knew there was a good reason to save it all those years ago!!

Greg



Oh thanks, Greg!


I'll pick it up at your place some time this year!
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Posted 2016-02-08 3:52 AM (#503565 - in reply to #398789)
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Neat pics of the wiring harnesses being built. Good to see where mine came from.
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Posted 2016-02-08 8:58 AM (#503579 - in reply to #503565)
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Thanks, Brad. Really busy for the last few months. A lot of cars being restored at this time.

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Posted 2016-02-27 12:48 AM (#505310 - in reply to #398789)
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As I recall, I've only had a couple of these orders. All the wiring for a 60 Sport Fury Sonoramic Convertible. It is hard to zoom in on multiple layers, but, here goes.

All original style PED plastic connectors and terminals. All NEW, nothing recycled!!

Greg



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Posted 2016-02-27 1:03 AM (#505312 - in reply to #398789)
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There is a significance to the last pic. Some time ago, I wrongly argued on a thread with Mick (totired) that the Hi-beam indicator light wire should be red not white for 60 Ply. Here is the proof that I conceded the point!!!

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Posted 2016-08-28 12:05 PM (#520014 - in reply to #398789)
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Hi
Do you do Imperial 1959 electric cables. I would like to order.
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Olli ?
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Posted 2016-09-04 5:26 PM (#520517 - in reply to #520014)
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Ollie, I don't have anything for 59 Imperials.

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Posted 2016-09-10 3:57 AM (#520908 - in reply to #520517)
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greg this is jan what olli need is the power window wiring harnes you made them for me dont you have the patern for it he need one without the power doorlocks
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Posted 2016-09-10 8:39 AM (#520921 - in reply to #398789)
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Wow Greg

The wiring harness in your pictures looks really great. I assume you'll build 300F wiring harnesses as well? The wiring harness in my 300F (the Letter) looks good, but all the brass contacts are badly corroded.

Happy Restoring! I will not give up restoring my Letter until it's finished.

Dieter

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Posted 2016-09-10 9:06 AM (#520922 - in reply to #520908)
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d500dodge59 - 2016-09-10 3:57 AM

greg this is jan what olli need is the power window wiring harnes you made them for me dont you have the patern for it he need one without the power doorlocks
JAN


Jan, you sent me patterns and I sent them back to you. I didn't keep anything because I don't want to do 59 imperial wiring!

Greg
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Posted 2016-09-10 9:12 AM (#520923 - in reply to #520921)
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di_ch_NY56 - 2016-09-10 8:39 AM

Wow Greg

The wiring harness in your pictures looks really great. I assume you'll build 300F wiring harnesses as well? The wiring harness in my 300F (the Letter) looks good, but all the brass contacts are badly corroded.

Happy Restoring! I will not give up restoring my Letter until it's finished.

Dieter



Thanks, Dieter,
I do 300F wiring all the time. email me, ggleggatt@gmail.com

Thanks,
Greg
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Posted 2016-09-13 1:30 AM (#521121 - in reply to #520922)
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ok did you allso send the old ones i havent take it out of the box yet
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Posted 2016-09-13 10:04 PM (#521204 - in reply to #521121)
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d500dodge59 - 2016-09-13 1:30 AM

ok did you allso send the old ones i havent take it out of the box yet


I think so!!
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Posted 2019-11-21 11:25 PM (#590522 - in reply to #521204)
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Another rather rare but very functional 57-59? accessory was an underhood light. The only one I recall seeing was on a 58 Dodge in a salvage yard. Here it is installed on my Regal.
The pink power wire comes directly from the "AUX" terminal of the headlight switch and the base of the underhood light socket is a Mercury switch.
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Posted 2019-11-21 11:34 PM (#590523 - in reply to #590522)
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My photos were too big!! !!!
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Posted 2019-11-22 10:51 AM (#590542 - in reply to #398789)
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Pink wire; is it not just a trunk light+switch added to the car? Or was it actually an option?

This is my favorite thread on the entire site. There is a lot of hard-earned accurate information for anyone willing to spend a few moments to absorb it. Thanks Greg!
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Posted 2019-11-22 3:50 PM (#590561 - in reply to #590542)
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Thanks, Danny! That thread spans a bunch of years.

I'll get a photo of the trunk light next time I'm at the car.

Greg

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Posted 2019-11-23 11:49 AM (#590611 - in reply to #590561)
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Here is the trunk light. A completely different bracket. The underhood light bracket could probably be rebent and cut to become a trunk light but not the other way around.

The "pink wire" circuit is an interesting one. It does vary from year to year and model to model but for 58 Dodge it powers a number of lights. It is battery power, through a circuit breaker within the headlight switch to the "aux" gang on the switch. Powers brake lights, dome lights, map lights, glovebox light, radio lights, trunk light as well as the underhood light if equipped. As long as the battery is connected pink wires are "hot".

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