Miss Belvedere back in the news... 9/27/2013
BarnFind57
Posted 2013-09-27 3:14 PM (#400024)
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Looks like somebody out there hasn't forgotten about her, but I think the Smithsonian is probably a bit of a stretch...



http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Tulsa_57_Belvedere_buried_50...

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57plymouth
Posted 2013-09-28 7:45 AM (#400145 - in reply to #400024)
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I agree about the Smithsonian. I think that Ultra One bit off more than they could chew. They have ruined the car from the way it was found, and it's too far gone to restore.

*In before Neil whines about the cement box leaking... AGAIN*
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jimntempe
Posted 2013-09-28 2:25 PM (#400199 - in reply to #400024)
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Are there any pictures of what the car looks like "all cleaned up". In the early photos they showed a spot on the front bumper where they had rubbed all the gunk off and the chrome was very smooth and shiny looking.
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PlymouthFury
Posted 2013-09-29 1:51 PM (#400362 - in reply to #400024)
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Rust could contaminate the museum? That's pretty lame reason to not bring in a piece of history! I have doubts they would want to take the car...the Smithsonian is quite packed as it is...heck a majority of their "collection" is just archived and not viewable.
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Posted 2013-09-29 1:57 PM (#400363 - in reply to #400024)
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Was looking at the photos...It looks like they did put something on the vault wall before setting the lids on. You can see the top of the wall is coated with a sealer or wet concrete. Never really noticed that before.
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wbower3
Posted 2013-09-29 9:29 PM (#400465 - in reply to #400024)
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As much as this poor horse gets beaten, it has yet to get up and pull a plow . . . . . . . . .Why continue to waste time?
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Posted 2013-10-19 1:09 AM (#404665 - in reply to #400024)
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I've been very quiet on this subject. This will be my first (I think) and last post about Ms. Belvedere.

I couldn't agree more with wbower3.

I think that it would have been beyond wonderful if this car had been unearthed as a pristine, perfect "new" car. Unfortunately, it was not. Time, Mother Nature and some engineering errors got the best of this poor Plymouth and there's just plain and simply nothing left. There isn't enough good steel in that car to build a set of plastic coated racks for my new plastic Maytag dishwasher.

I understand the sentimental attachment. I wasn't in Tulsa when this happened and I can't even begin to imagine what a disappointment it must have been. Every Chrysler fan on the planet wishes this story had the ending we all were hoping for, but it didn't.

The poor horse is beaten? The poor horse is dead. It needs a proper burial. We all have FL cars; let's put our energy into making them as perfect as we can.

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1961plymouthfury
Posted 2013-12-20 6:38 PM (#417601 - in reply to #404665)
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Its really sad how Miss belvedere turned out.
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mopower
Posted 2014-08-10 5:02 PM (#452341 - in reply to #417601)
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Hi FL Folks.

We Limeys on the other side of the Pond think about Missy B. all the time!
It was an ill fated idea to bury her at all.
We heard that she was moved somtime during her underground life to a new location that was totally unsuitable!
You couldn't make this stuff up LoL.
Mystery is the 'Spice of Life' a bit like 'Area 51'.
A sensible person would have stuck a camera down there before opening her up.
A quick slight of hand and another car put in her place.(Everyone would be happy then)

So what to do now?
Put her in a Museum so we Limeys can fly over and marvel at her BEAUTY!
Real Patina is a hundred times harder to reproduce than a shiny paint Jobbie!
She is a tribute to stupidity and foolishness.
I'd much rather see her than aline of Shiny Veyrons.
Missy B. One of a kind, now and Forever.
Only real Mopar Folks understand.
John at Mopower UK.
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60 Imp
Posted 2014-08-11 8:08 AM (#452409 - in reply to #400024)
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Mopower, you got it bad , don't ya?

It would be something to see though.

Steve.
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-11 4:34 PM (#452478 - in reply to #452409)
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Unfortunately, John, Ms. B.'s patina is long gone.

She's just another rusty lawn ornament, now; no curiosity factor.

And Gord, this IS the message board for Miss Belvedere...it's not taking up any band-width from your attention.

Yeah, John, her ultimate fate is very sad.


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Posted 2014-08-13 9:57 AM (#452753 - in reply to #400145)
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57plymouth - 2013-09-28 7:45 AM I agree about the Smithsonian. I think that Ultra One bit off more than they could chew. They have ruined the car from the way it was found, and it's too far gone to restore. *QUOTE]

 

She should be crushed into a block and enshrined as a reminder to never do that again.

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mopower
Posted 2014-08-13 3:03 PM (#452781 - in reply to #452753)
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Hi Missy B. Fans,

I've flown 6000 miles and drove for 4 hours to see the 'General Sherman Tree' in Cali.
I would deffo do the same to see Missy B.!!!
I also like 57 Chevrolet Belairs and tried to win one at Vegas several times whilst at the Sahara Hotel.
Would I fly 5000+ miles to see a rusty Belair, probably not?

Dare I mention 'Christine'?
Us Limeys thought that was the bestest film ever, topping American Grafitti and Bullitt.
There is a huge American car scene all over Europe and early Chryslers are well represented.

Surely a museum somewhere in the US has a space for Missy B.???
If not she can come here to the Old Country cos we would sure want her in all her rusted Glory!!!
John at Mopower
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The Chrysler Kid
Posted 2014-08-13 8:45 PM (#452819 - in reply to #452781)
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They should put her in a big aquarium in some casino.
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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2014-08-15 10:40 AM (#453012 - in reply to #452781)
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mopower - 2014-08-13 2:03 PM Hi Missy B. Fans, I've flown 6000 miles and drove for 4 hours to see the 'General Sherman Tree' in Cali. I would deffo do the same to see Missy B.!!! I also like 57 Chevrolet Belairs and tried to win one at Vegas several times whilst at the Sahara Hotel. Would I fly 5000+ miles to see a rusty Belair, probably not? Dare I mention 'Christine'? Us Limeys thought that was the bestest film ever, topping American Grafitti and Bullitt. There is a huge American car scene all over Europe and early Chryslers are well represented. Surely a museum somewhere in the US has a space for Missy B.??? If not she can come here to the Old Country cos we would sure want her in all her rusted Glory!!! John at Mopower

Now there's a thought... Assuming she survives the move without any more of her rusty bits falling off, that would not be a bad way to end her days in a car museum in England (or the U.K.) somewhere. She'll never roll again, but some might still want to see her.You'd have to negotiate with her current owners however which are the descendants of the man whose guess came the nearest to being the population of Tulsa in 2007.

 

I was there in 2007 in Tulsa at the unearthing and saw how little had been left untouched by the flood waters and time. I thought then (and still do) that she should be crushed respectfully and put out of her misery. (In my best Dr. McCoy voice) "She's dead, Jim" 



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61ChryslerMan
Posted 2014-08-15 7:15 PM (#453065 - in reply to #400024)
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I feel the same way about that darn red Christine car! CRUSH IT! Problem is it will just come back and be a pain in the butt.
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-16 7:18 PM (#453199 - in reply to #453065)
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(that's why Chubbies are called "belly button" cars).

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Posted 2014-08-17 9:04 PM (#453355 - in reply to #453199)
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Can anyone tell me who the women is next to the taillights of that 58 Desoto in the photo on PlymouthFury's posts above? I have seen this photo pop up here and there and even bid on one on ebay a couple of years ago. Still have no clue who she is. Its a great photo!
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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2014-08-19 8:43 AM (#453548 - in reply to #400024)
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It was advertising photo work. If one could discover who was the agency that submitted it for publication, one could possibly find out the name of the model but it seems a hopeless task to me because that was over 50 years ago. Why are you interested in her name?

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Posted 2014-08-19 9:56 AM (#453552 - in reply to #400024)
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Here's a larger version the photo;
http://www.turbinecar.com/images/58-desoto-girl.jpg
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Posted 2014-08-19 4:35 PM (#453582 - in reply to #400024)
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Posted 2014-08-19 7:21 PM (#453608 - in reply to #453582)
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Posted 2014-08-19 10:00 PM (#453623 - in reply to #453548)
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Seems like many of these photos often had old movie stars (before my time) in these advertising photos and I find it interesting reading about their lives and life experiences. Apparently this lady was not anyone too famous.
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d500neil
Posted 2014-08-20 4:31 PM (#453703 - in reply to #453623)
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LOL...not; she's at best a grandma, and may, by now, be deceased.

Ya gotta love any girl who can get dressed up just to caress an exhaust pipe.







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