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Location: atlanta | Well things are finally showing some progress, have the engine for the car, looks like the bell/flywheel/trans etc. will swap over and i'll be able to keep the 3 on the column. flywheels being resurfaced and the studs pressed out since the other crank has been tapped for 1/2 X 20 capscrews. should have the t bars in today and the master cylinder off, put the wheels on the front and finally get it back on the ground. Well that's the plan for today. I nixed the idea of the Poly thing and bought this other motor that seems to be working out fine as far as an install. I will prep and paint the engine bay before the install.
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Location: atlanta | K, the flywheel registers on the hemi crank, the crank is tapped 1/2 20, the 318 is 7/16 20, and the 1/2 20 grade 8 bolts won't clear, new flywheel or machine it?, also the hemi is 8 bolt the 318 is 6 with two never drilled. |
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Location: atlanta | Here's what I'm gonna use for exhaust, Sanderson ceramic coated block huggers.
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Location: atlanta | Okay, a lesson in the natural progression of things, particularly engine swaps. This is the first installment of many, many, i'm sure will be posted, sadly, and many that ya'll out out there have already experienced, again, sadly.
#1.Ya got a 61 Poly 318, standard trans, 172 tooth flywheel, 6 holes on the crank flange, 7/16th X 20, it registars on the 325 hemi crank flange which has 8 1/2 X 20 tapped holes, and the 6 holes line up beautifully, now don't get the giddy's and think how far Your ahead of the game already and that on this swap, heck I might not even have to adjust the clutch, then run down the the machine shop to get it resurfaced, why?, because a week later when you go down to the machine shop to have the 7/16 holes drilled and faced for the 1/2 X 20 cap screws you'll soon find out why they have several defibrillators stationed around the office! Uh, $350 drill and face + 60 to resurface and all of a sudden ya have a $410 modified poly 318 flywheel and you can buy new hemi flywheel for less that that.
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Location: Perth Australia | That sounds just how I felt when I got the back bumper on my car chromed
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Location: bishop, ca | The Sanderson on the driver's side will NOT fit; its front runner hits the motor mount and the dump exits on top of the torsion bar.
You CAN use the Driver's side as a basis for the reconfiguration of the exhaust runners.
There is another thread on the Exhaust Board where a guy re-configured the Sanderson to fit his Hemi 57 Dodge.
The main-flange fits fine, and the first inch or so of the runners can have newly-shaped pipes be welded to them.
Easiest thing is to play with the runners with the fender(s) being removed.
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Location: atlanta | Well, that post, Neil, almost, i said almost had me put a round in the chamber! :-) I looked and looked through the threads and didn't see it, i did see a 56 Dodge I believe that was talking about Sandersons. I can alway just run Zoomies out the fenders. |
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Location: atlanta | I did some more measurments, i have the motor on a roller stand that is exaclty 24" wide, same as the TB width in the car, i mocked the headers on the motor and measured, looks good to me, but as i peered over the engine bay, the drag link looks like a problem, if so it's probably a deal breaker. I have the the pass side TB in, the other side will have to have the thriugh bolt for the TB tension plasma cut, sawzall with and new blade barey scratched it, must be case hardened, and that would make sense. |
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Location: atlanta | I'm gonna take the front sheet metal off, I ordered Hot Heads mounts, they don't interfere with the block huggers, I hope they clear the Tbars, or it's back to the Poly thingy. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Be sure to take lots of photos of your project, Roger.
It's good that you are going to take off the driver's (and passenger's) fender; the photos should be very self explanatory, regarding
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Location: atlanta | The Hot Heads motor mounts came in today, have to mock up the headers and mounts, I've been assured by HH that they don't interfere with the headers, may get away with the T bars, next booger will be the drag link, maybe a center or rear sump, or may have to have a pan built, this motors going in even if it's in the trunk! pics at 11;00 |
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Location: atlanta | Mocked up the headers and mounts, all looks okay, next is to swing it in the car and see what the clearence problems are gonna be, oil pan for sure.
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Location: little rock, AR | Get rid of the ORANGE FILTER. Just my 2 cents
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Location: bishop, ca | Yeah; Fram does not enjoy much popularity, for the past few many years.
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Location: atlanta | Not gonna use it anyway, Hot Heads makes an adapter that has a inlet and outlet port, because of the block huggers being so close to the pan, I plan on running an oil cooler and this dual filter setup. I wonder if I should run the cooler before or after the filters, i would think before.
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Location: atlanta | Ok, got the DS fender off and can do some real measurements, looks like the V covers are no problem, the headres will be close, depends on how low they drop, the motor mounts look like they'll work, will have to make some plates to extend the sise to side.
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Location: atlanta | Also have a question, when these yahoo's dragged it out of hiding, they must have not released the E brake or something, the front bumper was tweaked real bad, and this is what they did to the end of the frame, what would you do, weld a new end on, get a welder out here and try to heat and hammer it back right? if I have to weld a new end on, what years/models fit, I'm also looking for the driver's side section of the front bumper, the DS is good, have a new center section, so I need the DS section.
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Location: Perth Australia | I fixed the end on my dodge, wasnt that hard actually, but isnt there supposed to be a flat bit that the bumper bracket bolts to?
Yours is much worse than mine was though, mine was just bent a bit, not ripped apart
I would expect that the metal is/will be quite stretched which will make it hard to get right
Its not really structural (apart from holding the bumper on) but with damage like that, I would do some very carefull measuring of the subframe to check that its all still in spec.
Might be better to get another frame, your not really that far away from it being able to come off, its just all the hanger on bits that are the pain (suspention, brake lines ect)
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Location: atlanta | Yep, it's pretty mangled mick, I think it can be saved, it's not visible, bt the demension's have to be right so the bumper fits snug. |
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Their basic design should work on our cars.
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Their basic design should work on our cars.
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Location: bishop, ca | I guess that the headers 'work' on it, huh?
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Location: atlanta | Not sure yet, I did get the two Tbars in, I need to cut a piece of broom handle and knock the Tbars forward and install the clips and cups, installed the proper lower strut bar bolts to the lower a frame, went ahead and loosened the upper control arm bushing as suggested so when i put weight on the front end it doesn't damage them, next comes the front shocks and connect the tie rods, then I'll install the wheels and roll it forward so I can remove the other fender and inner fender panel. I'll install the bell and trans on the hemi, install the mounts and headers and swing it over to check the clearance.
I shot a couple of pics of the Tbars installed, this is weight off wheels and the adjusting bolt just coming through the barrel nut on top, haven't done this before, does it look right? anyone?
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Location: atlanta | Well, yesterday was a good day! a few days ago a kid (anyone under 50 is a kid to me) came by looking at the car, we talked for a while and i mentioned needing some help getting Gypsy back together, he said great, he'd help and when did i want to start, how about Wednesday? great I said.
Yesterday about 9:30 he bangs on the door, ya ready to go to work?, uh yep, say's I, nursin' a small hangover, sure!, that kid worked my ass off! got the outter tie rod ends on, cut the old shocks off and installed the new ones, I couldn't find the lower shock bolts, so He say's I work at fastenal around the corner, I'll run get some grade 8 stuff, i give him some money, he comes back, his cost, $.65, two bolts, two washer's and two lock nuts, pretty sweet huh?, any way, he said, K, what's next, I told him about the 66 Fury rear in the yard with the springs and all attached, he grabs his cutoff and cuts the u bolts, we drag over to the carport and get it up there, next we cut out the u bolts on the 61 tapered axle rear, went and got new u bolts and walla, the rears in, I'm amaxed the thing sat on the smae eyebolts, no mods at all, straight bolt in swap, put the rims and tires on to see how she looks, sweet huh?, It was dark, about 9:30 and we drank a Lime-A-Rita and called it a day, went in took a shower, woofed a sammich and hit the hay.
Gotta rest today cause he's coming back tomorrow, I know it's gonna be a long day!, but great, gettin' R done.
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Location: Georgia | Progress is good! Very fine, Roger!
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Location: atlanta | Got a little more done today, cleaned the bottom of the trunk floor and inside framerails, rust treated it and undercaoted it, then installed the new gas tanks/ sending unit, and plumbed and hooked up the fuel guage wire. We started taking the front accessories off the 66 Poly, disconnected the auto trans, only hitch was one exhaust manifold bolt broke of in the head, guess I'll have to take the head off and take it to a machine shop, right?
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | that broken bolt might not be so hard to get out . if it's got just a real tiny stub stickin out or in past the face . get a good 1/8 drill bit and start it a close to center a possible . drill a little bit , stop and check center . if
its of a touch off start drilling again by pointing the drill the way it needs to go . after a few seconds , stop , look again . do it as many times as needed to get close to center . once your satisfied with center , drill all the
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Location: atlanta | Got her down on four wheels, first time she's been moved in over a year, washed her off to get some of the dust off, u bolts tightened, new wheel cylinders for the back installed, waiting on the shoes, got the heads and intake off the Poly, motor looks pretty good inside, little ridge, cylinder walls look good. still half a days work left.
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Location: atlanta | Yesterday evening we got the other fender off, stripped the innner fenders, treated the surface rust, painted and undercoated, I'll stash these away till time to install. |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | oh those fancy jack stands in the background . i was thinkin on a set myself ------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: atlanta | Yep, on sale at tractor Supply, pretty sweet, and here's a HOT TIP for Ya, don't jack the car up and leave them sitting for month's, otherwise they just turn into extra heavy regular jack stands when the hydraulic cylinder shaft turns to 1/8" rust! 
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Location: atlanta | Okay purist's, change of direction, guy came by he house today lookin' at the Plymouth, saw the hemi and wanted it, made a trade for a sweet 350 Chevy and auto trans for the Plymouth, it's even got chrome pulley's! dun good didn't I? |
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Location: bishop, ca | Why would anyone want to get rid of a sweet 350 Chubbie engine (and.....in swap for a lowly built-up Hemi)?
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Location: atlanta | Some more progress today, master cylinder is installed, proportioning valve installed, hard lines to the front and rear installed and hooked up, removed fender antenna, fenders dechromed, got the car turned around so the nose is on the carport. Agenda for Friday, install rear shocks, pull front seat, install the new shoes and hardware on the back end. Tomorrow, drop off front fenders to fill in antenna hole and a small rust hole under the driver's side outer headlight bucket, drop off the intake and valve covers for clear powder coating, remove crank from the 61 poly and drive the pistons out, contact Neilson about a new cam, have one header weld redone. I need the rubber line from the rear end tee to the brake line, nobody has a listing, any help?
By the way, the guy brought the Hemi back crying, he said he didn't own a spark plug socket long enough to get the spark plugs out, okay, no problem, we swapped back, damm I really wanted that chevy for my car! Brrrrraaahhaaaahaaaahaaaa....
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Location: Perth Australia | I am not sure if your kidding or not
A guy gave a hemi back because he didnt have the tool needed to remove a spark plug?
Guess I should scrap the dodge
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Location: atlanta | OK, Some wise person replied when i first bought this car " rebuild the original motor" well, I'm infamous for not listening, the original motor is now torn to the bare block and will go to the machine shop Monday for an .030 bore, ETC.
I now realize there's NO Hemi in my future (dammit), toyed with making it a sono clone, but I have most of what it takes to get the Poly motor together, so I guess a Poly @.030, headers, cam, and a P-600 with three 2's are in our future. The Hemi's for sale if anyone's interested.
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Location: little rock, AR | You finally put up the cooking sherry and came to your senses. There is nothing wrong with a healthy 318. Show us pics of the motor.
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Location: atlanta | Wasn't the cooking sherry that clouded my mind, it was the side shot of acetone that was doing it!
Anywho, her's the motor, crank looks real good, had the beat n' drive the pistons out, luckily I used my Carport Engineering Inc. piston removal kit, and the worst of the pistons to remove. I stopped by the machine shop to ask about a wait time for the block, he said about a week, i told him about the pistons being stuck and not haveing a ridge reamer, i didn't know this, but he said NEVER use a ridge reamer because it will egg shape the bores and the factiory bore is what they use to align the boring bar with, ever heard that?
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Location: atlanta | K, back brakes done, and new shocks for the rear on, blasted and painted some engine bay stuff, batt tray, MC brace, radiator support brace.
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | Its getting there with time and patience it will get done. I will start the restoration on mine this winter. Right now I am enjoying it taking it to a couple of cruise ins , car shows and it will only be in 1 Christmas parade this year.
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Location: atlanta | Just had the guts to open the new white covertible top I bought off Ebay about a year ago, I didn't expect much for $35.00, but man it's beautimus!, I think with the Baby Blue paint and the blue and white interior and the whitewalls, it'll look better than the black top. A shout out the W. Weiland for the "heads up" on the top on Ebay, Thanks Wayne.
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Location: atlanta | Heater box, sealed (dumdum'd) and in place, and MC installed along with the backing plate.
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | hope you used dumdum that is heat resistant . you brake lines coming off the master . did both the old ones go forward as in the photo . i would have thought the front line to the rear
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | yah , after i posted , i figured prop. valve is what it was . narrow trailer siding sealer works good for a heater box but not too wide , cause it sticks reallllll good . plumbers putty is ok
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Location: atlanta | Thanks Steve, appreciate the compliment, Yes, an adjustable Wilwood valve, Chuck. By the way Chuck, i need a recipe for the poly, I talked to Neilson yesterday about a cam, lifters and V springs, I'd like to go to a spin on filter, won't the Hot Heads bypass valve work?, the timing cover on the 61 motor has corrosion eating into one bolt hole, i have a 66 motor out back, will the timing cover off of it work? not sure about timing marks, have to look, what harmonic balancer will work, SBM, 318-340 steel crank? I know there's a list in the Big Book on things that will interchanbe, but not sure if it's for pre and post Poly's. |
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Location: atlanta | As of now, it'll be .030 over, P-600 3 X 2 intake and Ford ECG carbs, I have a set of the Austrailian Fountain aluminum valve covers, and a set of the Spitfire shorty headers. I'll use a Neilson cam, lifters and valve springs, a Flowcooler water pump, a roller timing set, MP or MSD distributor ad a Crane HI-6 CD box and coil. I do have an old Mallory dual point, and all you need is one set to trigger the CD box. This plan could change if I find a complete 383 sonoramic motor and trans on the side of the road somewhere. |
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Location: atlanta | dragula426 - 2014-08-16 7:28 PM
cool project! looks like a real nice solid car!
Thanks, I see by your avitar, you may also he the dreaded 61 Plymouth bug! :-)
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Location: Perth Australia | LA 318 timing cover fits, its just got the marks on the left side of the engine
You can use your original pointer on it and time it as per usual
The trap though is that there is 1 bolt hole that they deleted on the LA that the poly has, it down the left side about 1/2 way down.
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | my cam is a 480 lift , duration 274 , overlap 54 , from schneider in cal. , 318 poly solid lifters . the springs and caps are comp cams cause i didn't like the cap fitment on the ones i got from the left
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | the cam i sold was a 460 lift . the new one lobe separation i don't have . for a street cam i really don't think it's needed . those piston i sold ya were mated to the motor by local napa machine shop and
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2014-08-20 5:31 PM Heater box, sealed (dumdum'd) and in place, and MC installed along with the backing plate.
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Location: atlanta | No Will, crappy camera and crappy camera operator, the outside shot is more the "real" color, it's the factory original color, the factory paint chip say it's called, "screamin' by Mr. Ford and Ms. Chevy Robin's Egg Blue". |
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Location: atlanta | Little progress on the car, interior out, nice pans, huh?, new fuel and temp guages, new ammeter, prep for repaint on steering column and shifter, need to treat for rust on the floor and reseal for new carpet and check out the power top system tomorrow..
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2014-08-30 12:13 AMLittle progress on the car, interior out, nice pans, huh?, new fuel and temp guages, new ammeter, prep for repaint on steering column and shifter, need to treat for rust on the floor and reseal for new carpet and check out the power top system tomorrow..
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Location: atlanta | Little more progress of the rag, dash has base coat and mock up, redid the aluminum dash trim and knobs, started the body work.
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Good work Old Man!
Now is a good time to recap on the driveline config, are we keeping three pedals??? Cool thread Man, and a cool car.
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Location: Georgia | Excellent progress, Roger! Gracias for the updates.
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Location: little rock, AR | There may be a few that thought you had gone over the edge but you are turning the corner. Glad to see the original motor has come back into the picture. There are VERY few Verts that have survived and you will have a great car when finished. A 318 with 3 onda tree in a Drop Top. Ya gotta love it. |
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Location: atlanta | 60 Imp - 2014-09-15 6:26 AM
This Rag is well on it's way to being a silk hanky
Good work Old Man!
Now is a good time to recap on the driveline config, are we keeping three pedals??? Cool thread Man, and a cool car.
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Silk hanky! LMAO
Old man? no, ancient is more like it.
Three pedals? yep, three on da tree, actually 3 1'2 if ya count the E brake. 318, 030, P-600 with trips, Flowcooler wp, Cloyes chain, Fountain aluminum valve covers, Spitfire headers, electronic dist with Crane Hi-6 MSD and LX-92 coil. Nothing crazy, just a good running cruiser. |
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Location: duluth mn. | fenix - 2014-08-21 5:32 PM
dragula426 - 2014-08-16 7:28 PM
cool project! looks like a real nice solid car!
Thanks, I see by your avitar, you may also he the dreaded 61 Plymouth bug! :- )
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | I hope you bring it to the PACE Car show in Pulaski, TN |
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Location: atlanta | Worked on the front fenders and inst cluster, also got the steering wheel ready. The old one is the one that came on the car, the other is an NOS wheel I repainted with white gripes and cleared., thoght it would go better with the interior.
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Location: atlanta | Little more progress, trunk is stripped, new seam sealer, undercoated and ready for paint, also piddled around and got my 61 Ga tag redone. Hope I ain't boring ya'll.
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2014-09-24 9:02 PM Little more progress, trunk is stripped, new seam sealer, undercoated and ready for paint, also piddled around and got my 61 Ga tag redone. Hope I ain't boring ya'll.
Boring ......???????? I don't think so Roger. I'm excided for ya. She's looking great. Keep the progress pic's coming. Will. |
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Location: Georgia | Mucho bueno!
It was a great day in Georgia when they started allowing us to use year-of-manufacture plates on our cars.
I thought 1961 tags were yellow, is this one a special?
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | I need to restore my 1961 Tennesee Tag . It does not look as good as the other 1 on my other '61
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Location: atlanta | SavoyPlaza - 2014-09-25 6:07 AM
Mucho bueno!
It was a great day in Georgia when they started allowing us to use year-of-manufacture plates on our cars.
I thought 1961 tags were yellow, is this one a special?
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Just hoping no one notices but You! :-) by the way, after i posted the pic i noticed the first #1 was different than the second, and for some odd reason it is. |
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Location: atlanta | 1961plymouthfury - 2014-09-25 6:17 AM
I need to restore my 1961 Tennesee Tag . It does not look as good as the other 1 on my other '61
You ned to stop comparing this red car to the black car you had or you'll never be happy with this car. Why not recreate this red car into a copy of the black one, i think that's what will satisfy you the most. |
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Location: Georgia | fenix - 2014-09-25 10:46 AM
SavoyPlaza - 2014-09-25 6:07 AM
Mucho bueno!
It was a great day in Georgia when they started allowing us to use year-of-manufacture plates on our cars.
I thought 1961 tags were yellow, is this one a special?
Pete
Just hoping no one notices but You! :- ) by the way, after i posted the pic i noticed the first #1 was different than the second, and for some odd reason it is.
I doubt anyone will notice. I found an originally white 1961 public service commission tag that I thought would be cool for my green wagon. I repainted it black because I liked that color better and held my breath that they would accept a Public Service tag on a passenger car. They didn't flinch, and so I ride!
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - You need to stop comparing this red car to the black car you had or you'll never be happy with this car. Why not recreate this red car into a copy of the black one, i think that's what will satisfy you the most.
Your right Roger, but getting over a loss like that takes time. It hasen't even been a year yet. Steph is moving forward at her own pace and seems to be getting past it pretty good. Hell ...... I still greave about cars I shouldn't have sold years ago, let alone lost to a tragic event like a fire.
I don't think a clone is the answer either. She will, in time, make a connection with the red Fury and memories of the black will be laid to rest.
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Location: atlanta | SavoyPlaza - 2014-09-25 11:14 AM
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SavoyPlaza - 2014-09-25 6:07 AM
Mucho bueno!
It was a great day in Georgia when they started allowing us to use year-of-manufacture plates on our cars.
I thought 1961 tags were yellow, is this one a special?
Pete
Just hoping no one notices but You! :- ) by the way, after i posted the pic i noticed the first #1 was different than the second, and for some odd reason it is.
I doubt anyone will notice. I found an originally white 1961 public service commission tag that I thought would be cool for my green wagon. I repainted it black because I liked that color better and held my breath that they would accept a Public Service tag on a passenger car. They didn't flinch, and so I ride!
Pete
At the risk of polluting your thread with more ugly 1961s.....
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Location: Georgia | oldwood - 2014-09-25 9:52 PM
My '61 and I were a match made in HEAVEN!!!
You said it there, Dorsey!
Y'all are the Lee twins.
First name is UG!
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Location: bishop, ca | Pete, the first-name of the second twin is Fug.
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Location: atlanta | Please stop polluting my thread with your vile and vulger comments, my tender ears can't handle it. By the way there was an adopted sister, Buttug.
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Location: atlanta | little progress, first blocking, hood started , trunk lid started, working on fenders now, motor should be outta the machine shop this week, .0303 over and had the heads done.
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Location: little rock, AR | Its good to see you staying the course. Tri power 318, ya gotta love it!!! I would DO either of the "Lee" twins. Maybe both at once!!! Yea, thats right I said it and you were thinking it!!! Frumpy even wants in on the twins. LMAO
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2014-10-11 2:08 PM Block, heads, and crank are back from the machine shop, .030, new cam bearings and plugs. Next week I'll drop off the rotating assemby off and have it balanced along wiith the flywheel, H balancer and pressure plate. Had the intake powder coated, I'll be painting the engine parts while i wait fo the crank and stuff to come back.
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2014-10-26 8:09 PM Yep, I detailed it in the Nether region, was to graphic to post here!
Roger, I had a similar home invasion that very same day. Quite unsettling. There are traces of rust all over. |
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Location: little rock, AR | rockerarm - 2014-10-27 9:31 AM
fenix - 2014-10-26 8:09 PM Yep, I detailed it in the Nether region, was to graphic to post here!
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fenix - 2014-10-26 8:09 PM Yep, I detailed it in the Nether region, was to graphic to post here!
Roger, I had a similar home invasion that very same day. Quite unsettling. There are traces of rust all over.
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Location: atlanta | I got the the back seat redone, same pattern as stock, the blue is a little darker and the white is more of an ivory. a question for ya'll, are the door panels for the front the same as a 2 door hardtop?
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2014-10-28 2:35 PM I got the the back seat redone, same pattern as stock, the blue is a little darker and the white is more of an ivory. a question for ya'll, are the door panels for the front the same as a 2 door hardtop? Yes Roger. convertible and hardtop share the same door panels. |
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Location: atlanta | disillusionment is starting to set in again, this car will NEVER be what I want it to be, and I honestly don't have the bucks to do it like I want, guess I'll have to bite the bullet and make it presentable, and as long as i have fun with it, that's ok too. This car reminds me of the old Robert Palmer song, simply irreistable, " She's so fine there's no telling where the money went, She's all mine there's no other way to go" I'm a freakin' Virgo, wadda ya expect, guess that's why I ended up in Electrical/electronic/phys/mech calibration in the Navy, Ya know the old Calibration sayin', Ain't no such thing as close enough, even perfect" :-)
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | Any updates? How is the car coming along? I just started the restoration on my '61 I am also posting photos when work is done on the car |
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Location: little rock, AR | I feel your pain Roger. Rip off people and Screwed -up women have cost me a lot of my disposable income and these people continue to due more harm to their next unknowing victims. Keep the faith Roger!!! |
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | I am going to try to save the fenders on my restoration project but a pair were on my Christmas list in case they need to be replaced
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Location: atlanta | Been a while since i posted, anywho, a few pics of the snails pace progress. The motors together, intake and VC's mocked up for now, .030 over, new pistons/bearing/Cam from Camcraft, Cloyes timing chain, P600 with 94's, engine/flywheel/clutch presure plate all balanced. The dash is also done, new fuel and temp gauges, new spaeker grill, everything cleaned up, repainted the dash ( painted it three times before it was right ) and speaker grill the original color. Have new sound deadener and carpet to install this weekend or next.
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Location: atlanta | Yes Mick, Fountains, bought them outta OZ some time ago, think as thick as they are, outta seal good.
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Location: little rock, AR | Roger, you are going to be Stylin n Profilin!!!
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | What is your fuel economy on the 6? On my other '61 with a 318 4bl edelbrock carb and with electronic ignition My dad ( drove my mom's '66 charger) I filled my car up with hightest . I put MMO in every other tank fill. I drove over 213 miles on the trip I refilled it when I got home it took 9 gallons I averaged 23.6 mpg on the trip. |
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2015-03-05 12:41 AM Been a while since i posted, anywho, a few pics of the snails pace progress. The motors together, intake and VC's mocked up for now, .030 over, new pistons/bearing/Cam from Camcraft, Cloyes timing chain, P600 with 94's, engine/flywheel/clutch presure plate all balanced. The dash is also done, new fuel and temp gauges, new spaeker grill, everything cleaned up, repainted the dash ( painted it three times before it was right ) and speaker grill the original color. Have new sound deadener and carpet to install this weekend or next.
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Nice progress, fenix, and I love that blue!
I also love that dash with its two big "eyes" that stare at ya when you're driving...too cool.
Congratulations on a job well done.
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Location: atlanta | LOL, and Ya just gave me an idea, thanks, and thanks for the compliments.
By the way, i just got my radiator support, fan blade, A/C brackets and idler, fan and lower motor pulleys, motor mount shields, hood latch from the powder coaters, will make it more durable.
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | My red and white replacement is currently under restoration I am doing the block sanding on the car but when its close to the trim I do that by hand . I do have a folder here with what has been done so far.
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Location: USA - KY | fenix - 2015-03-07 5:13 PM
By the way, i just got my radiator support, fan blade, A/C brackets and idler, fan and lower motor pulleys, motor mount shields, hood latch from the powder coaters, will make it more durable.
Wow...sounds like Christmas over at your garage!
There's nothing like unwrapping those "new again" old parts, ready for installation.
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Location: atlanta | Yep, the parts are turning out very nice, thankfully I have worked out a deal with the powdercoaters and it's all pro-gratis!, besides, unwrapping powdercoated car parts is about as good as it gets for this old geezer anymore, now that all the rich, young, blondes have forsaken me. |
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Location: atlanta | Got a little more done today, installed pilot bushing, flywheel, pressure plate, t bearing and disc, bell and trans, remote oil filter adapter on block, motor mounts and shields. I hope to have the M/T in this weekend.
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Location: Perth Australia | What are you doing about that front rail?
I had to repair similar damage on my dodge, but the other side
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Location: little rock, AR | That is one BAD MoFO. No more whining, get that mutha done!!! |
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Location: atlanta | ttotired - 2015-03-24 9:29 PM
What are you doing about that front rail?
I had to repair similar damage on my dodge, but the other side
Mick, I'm gonna let a pro massage it out with some dolly's and an acetelyne torch. I have the piece for the end, just need to make sure they are equal, other wise the bumper will be off.
How bad was Yours and what did Ya do to fix it, any hints and help for me?
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Location: atlanta | oldwood - 2015-03-24 10:35 PM
That is one BAD MoFO. No more whining, get that mutha done!!!
Thanks for the kudo's Dorsey, things are finally coming together, I can actually see a light in the end of the tunnel! :-)
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Location: Perth Australia | Pretty much as you said
Heated it up and beat the crap out of it to get the rails going where they were supposed to go
Mine was about as bad as yours, so I cut the bumper mounting plate off through the welds then lots of measuring when I put it back just to get the bumper alignment right
It wasnt really that hard to do actually, I dont think anyone would be able to tell that it had been mangled now
Thought I had a picture of it, but I dont, just an after one
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Location: atlanta | I'm thinking of waiting till i'm ready to install the bumper, or maybe just the front bumper filler panels, so i know the bumper will be even across the front, and then weld it up. |
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Location: Perth Australia | Wont be very easy once you put panels on
Just needs to be a mirror of the other side
I used the cross member as a datum, made a centre line to work off to make sure the angle was right and the distance out from the cross member was right
and a strait edge to make sure it wasnt tilted up or back
Getting the "Y" close enough is ok, getting the mounting plate right is more crucial
Same distance apart, any angle sideways and any tilt angle
There is room for adjustment, but not much
It would be best to tack it on and then assemble the front up to check, then pull it apart again, but thats a whole lot of work
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Location: atlanta | OK, little progress today, mounted the radiator to the radiator support, ran the heater hoses, installed the inner fenders, lower radiator hose, power steering pump is on, PS preasure hose will be here tomorrow, have an appt. Wed to install the exhaust system.
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Location: atlanta | After sealing the floor, finally started with the Hush Mat sound/thermal/vibration barrier.
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Location: atlanta | I did, and do, I just need to put a few more grand in it before i sell it, don't wanna pull out early and only lose 150% of my investment! :-) |
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2015-04-05 10:11 AM After sealing the floor, finally started with the Hush Mat sound/thermal/vibration barrier.
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Location: atlanta | Will, I don't have any before and after experience's with this stuff, still have the front doors and the rear side panels to do. |
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2015-04-05 7:08 PM Will, I don't have any before and after experience's with this stuff, still have the front doors and the rear side panels to do. I did exactly that with my 69 300 convertible Roger, and it made a HUGE difference. Both in reducing undercar road noise and heat transfer through the floor boards. You can bet my 61 convertible will get the same treatment. |
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Location: atlanta | Little more progress: Primed and rotated the motor to avoid a dry start, installed new voltage regulator, installed new starter relay, timed the cam and installed the intermediate shaft, changed out the heater hose nipple's to the correct 5/8 ", installed the intake finally.
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | them trips , do ya have the idle circuits blocked off on 1 & 3 . if not you may have a killer time gettin it to idle even close at first start up -----------------------------------------------later |
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Location: atlanta | They are ECG-5's, 185 cfm each (55/56 ferd) end idle's blocked, end carb choke flaps removed and sealed, center manual choke, haven't decided if i'm gonna run all three straight, progressive, or fake the end carbs, at any rate, i'm gonna get some real good progressive linkage so i can go any way i wanna.
When i'm ready to crank the motor for break in, i'll just run the center carb, that'll eliminate some probs with the 3 X 2 setup i may encounter. Not sure about a vac port for an advance on the dist.
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Location: little rock, AR | fenix - 2015-04-05 2:20 PM
I did, and do, I just need to put a few more grand in it before i sell it, don't wanna pull out early and only lose 150% of my investment! :-) Pulling out early makes too big a mess. lol
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Location: atlanta | Change o' plans, i've decided to run the three carbs "straight", I did some calc's and the center carb will not be enough to sustain the 318 + .030. the 2 bbl's on 318's are somewhere around 300cfm, the Holley three bolt "94" ECG's are about 200 tops, so a center won't flow enough to run the motor, and progressive linkage won't solve the problem.
Chuck had asked about the carbs, well since i hadn't run them yet, i took another look at them, thankfully i was lied to by the person i bought them from, the idle circuits aren't plugged, great!! I may have another problem with them though, when i opened the tops and removed the accel pumps, the anti drain back check balls are stuck in the orifice, at least on the two i've opened so far, i'm hoping a soak in some lacquer thinner or carb cleaner will loosen them up, i hope to god their not staked in there, which wouldn't make any sense, and the carbs would be useless with no main jet flow. I also verified the internal power valve were there since i'll also need those also, the ends don't need choke's, so i'm okay there. I will install adjustable main jets, since changing jets with trips is a giant pita. I also will build my own linkage, since the arms are already installed on the extended throttle shafts and straight linkage is a lot simpler, the plan is to bolt the bases to the intake and build the linkage with the ability to verify the throttle plate positions, ain't gonna be pretty, but i gotta bring this thing to life.
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Location: atlanta | ("Houston, we've had a problem here") I mean, Houston we have brakes!!, yes sports fans, thanks you (insert your favorite deity here) something went as anticipated here in " impossible restoration carport land", where dreams not only drive you to the drink, i mean brink, they sometimes do come true. installed the final front two brake lines and bled the system, "Houston, I have a pedal"
installed the new modifed oil dip****, installed the cut to fit wires, new plugs, dissy, yes DISSY!, new vac ( I sent it to NASA and then to NIST for verification) advance. Wired the coil, have the connectors for the oil and oil press senders.
Also installed the rest of the transplanted 66 Fury A/C stuff, compressor, brackets, alt adj bar, 6 blade fan ( may upgrade to a Hayden), next is the exhaust install.
I have a Painless dual 40 amp circuit breaker and relay box to install, and will mod the high/low beams with new relays so the light switch doesn't have to carry the amp load.
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Location: ALABAMA, HEART OF DIXIE | fenix - 2015-04-28 7:54 PM ("Houston, we've had a problem here") I mean, Houston we have brakes!!, yes sports fans, thanks you (insert your favorite deity here) something went as anticipated here in " impossible restoration carport land", where dreams not only drive you to the drink, i mean brink, they sometimes do come true. installed the new modifed oil dip****, installed the cut to fit wires, new plugs, dissy, yes DISSY!, new vac ( I sent it to NASA and then to NIST for verification) advance. Wired the coil, have the connectors for the oil and oil press senders. Also installed the rest of the transplanted 66 Fury A/C stuff, compressor, brackets, alt adj bar, 6 blade fan ( may upgrade to a Hayden), next is the exhaust install. I have a Painless dual 40 amp circuit breaker and relay box to install, and will mod the high/low beams with new relays so the light switch doesn't have to carry the amp load.
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On a serious note, I was on the USS Midway in the Indian Ocean, Wayne Newton came on a Christmas for a show, He was 100% genuine and impressed me the most of all the entertainers that ever came on board, in mt 13 years of see duty, the worst, Bob Hope, he was all about taping the show for the " look at me, I'm entertaining the troops" show to play in the USA, what a joke and self serving a**hole he was. Reba McEntire was also a great lady and did us proud.`
By the way, I'm only here to amuse myself, I could care less if ya like my car in it's final iteration, side pipes, hood scoop, scollops, hooded headlights, blue dots, raked rear, skirts, and all, unless, ya wanna write me a check ta do what you do to what you dodo.
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Location: atlanta | fenix - 2015-04-28 9:21 PM
By the way, I'm only here to amuse myself, I could care less if ya like my car in it's final iteration, side pipes, hood scoop, scollops, hooded headlights, blue dots, raked rear, skirts, and all, unless, ya wanna write me a check ta do what you do to what you dodo.
Sorry about that folks, some misdirected anger and frustration over some events that transpired the last few days, I'll be more careful about what and how I post in the future, it wasn't really directed at anyone here, and i DO appreciate all the support and responses i receive, once again, my apologies.
I didn't remove the post or edit it, just wanted people to see that i screwed up posting that and i take responsibility, i'm sure we've all had days like that.
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fenix - 2015-04-28 9:21 PM
By the way, I'm only here to amuse myself, I could care less if ya like my car in it's final iteration, side pipes, hood scoop, scollops, hooded headlights, blue dots, raked rear, skirts, and all, unless, ya wanna write me a check ta do what you do to what you dodo.
Sorry about that folks, some misdirected anger and frustration over some events that transpired the last few days, I'll be more careful about what and how I post in the future, it wasn't really directed at anyone here, and i DO appreciate all the support and responses i receive, once again, my apologies.
I didn't remove the post or edit it, just wanted people to see that i screwed up posting that and i take responsibility, i'm sure we've all had days like that.
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Location: atlanta | Thanks Pete, I think She's coming along okay, for a carport/driveway redo. I kinda like the stance, but I may drop Her a little in the rear, She should look pretty good with the Robin's Egg Blue and a new white top. Still have the skirts, hood scoop, scallops, dual rear antenna's, and custom dual mirrors to install.
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | lookin real good kid . you're goin to like the tone of those side pipes , especially in kick down mode -------------------------------------------------------later
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Location: Lordstown, Ohio | After looking at the engine bay photo. It appears like the one bolt that holds the thermostat housing is not properly turned in the correct direction, it also appears as if its not a OEM MOPAR part. I would be very appalled if not severally offended if you parked that car any where close to mine ( snicker snicker har har) |
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Location: atlanta | w.weiland - 2015-05-15 7:02 PM
After looking at the engine bay photo. It appears like the one bolt that holds the thermostat housing is not properly turned in the correct direction, it also appears as if its not a OEM MOPAR part. I would be very appalled if not severally offended if you parked that car any where close to mine ( snicker snicker har har)
To late Waldo, another member sent a " couple of friends", yes, a member here flew them out from the left coast on a private jet with the correct t stat bolts, installed them and clocked them at the factory spec'd 87 degree's to the left of the third bolt on the water pump housing. They loved the car, but begged me not to tell the boss.
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Location: atlanta | 60 dart - 2015-05-15 2:42 PM
lookin real good kid . you're goin to like the tone of those side pipes , especially in kick down mode -------------------------------------------------------later
Thanks Chuck, I hope so, and as usual it turned into a fiasco, after screwing up the pipe hangers that the shields attach to, i had to leave it overnight, that meant another days rent on the trailer and my time, and gas money, when i went to pick it up the next day it looked pretty good, that is till he rolled it off the rack and the hanger he extended, caught and ripped the shield off and knock the pipe back about and inch, he was so pissed ( as was I) , he said the job was free, just get it outta here and don't bring it back. Could this be Christine's long lost younger sister? |
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | tack welding the chrome tubes to the muffler helps a great deal . i've got the 80 inch , to replace just the shields aint cheep . a little tip about the shields , keep
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Location: atlanta | Yep, 65 bucks each, i have to replace one, so how do they sound? never heard them, there's a few on Youtube, but hard tell unless your standing right there. He did a great job welding, best i've seen on such thin tubing and round to boot. What wax? do you mean polish? |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Isn't the shield made out with clover leaf holes? If so, there should be stainless material that can be rolled into shape and never rust. There'sa difference in shine between chrome and stainless though... |
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Location: little rock, AR | A/C on a vert. LOL Be sure and tell the Blonde passenger the rules of riding in a convertible. When the top goes down so does the blonde. We are ALL waiting for the day when the video is posted. I'm glad you own a manual trans.
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | its chrome and the holes are oblong slits . polish is good for removing any minor rust that starts but wax , like carnuba , will help repel water/oxidation . the first side pipes i had were on a 318 73 charger in 77 . you be
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Location: atlanta | Yes, Dorsey, the 3 on the column is long gone, i would venture to guess few would know how to drive one, certainly not this generation. Anyway, a little progress, installed the rear antenna's and mocked one of the fender skirts.
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Location: little rock, AR | You better sell it soon before you really f...... something up. lol Looking goooood.
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Location: atlanta | Little progress today, insatlled a new universal joint and installed the driveshaft in the car, also mocked up the placement of the side scoops.
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Location: atlanta | w.weiland - 2015-05-20 8:31 PM
That kinda will be hard to keep the bugs out of
Your right, maybe i should turn it around, kinda like thje Pontiac Trans Ams. |
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| If you want to get the end carbs to work, progressive linkage for a later mechanical Six Pack setup should work, and is so simple you could duplicate it yourself. As long as all three carbs have accelerator pump, it works great. Super Stock Six Pack carbs had 3 accelerator pumps and no vacuum actuation. I drove a setup like that one the street, daily, in the mid-'90s in Atlanta. I loved it. I had about 1/2 travel on the center carb before the outers would open. Once your foot "learns" it, it's awesome! |
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Location: atlanta | Tragic Wagon - 2015-05-20 8:53 PM
If you want to get the end carbs to work, progressive linkage for a later mechanical Six Pack setup should work, and is so simple you could duplicate it yourself. As long as all three carbs have accelerator pump, it works great. Super Stock Six Pack carbs had 3 accelerator pumps and no vacuum actuation. I drove a setup like that one the street, daily, in the mid-'90s in Atlanta. I loved it. I had about 1/2 travel on the center carb before the outers would open. Once your foot "learns" it, it's awesome!
I actually had the Weiand tunnel ram 6 pack with three 2300 Holley's, the were all mech, no vac, except the center. I had a .060 440 in a 71 Demon, but alas someone made me an offer I couldn't refuse. the three 2300's with vac pods are for stock street motors, ala the one year only AAR/T/A, and the BB 5 packs, These are Holley ECG-5s are 1 1/16 throats, the biggest available other than the 2110 bug sprayers, the end carbs are choke free and the idles blocked, and don't have pumps, the center will support my motor, weakly, and i don't wanna run straight linkage, but, we'll see. |
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I had the Weiand tunnel ram as well, but didn't use it. I put the Super Stock carbs (4791 center/4792 outers, if memory serves, but those may be the 340 S/S carbs) on a factory '69.5 A12 Edelbrock intake instead. Not as much power but more fun on the street, and kept the element of surprise! |
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Scoops might work better if you mount them on the roof........flow through ventilation???? |
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Location: atlanta | sidesho_bob1961 - 2015-05-21 6:23 AM
Scoops might work better if you mount them on the roof........flow through ventilation????
I thought of that, but i thought they might look silly on the roof, and because of the fabric tearing, they may not last long. |
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Location: atlanta | Tragic Wagon - 2015-05-20 11:52 PM
Well, without pumps they're almost certain to bog on opening unless it's very, very slow--hence the vacuum pods on the factory Six Pack/Six Barrel setups. You'd have to be pretty judicious with your right foot to make non-pumped end carbs transition well to WOT.
I had the Weiand tunnel ram as well, but didn't use it. I put the Super Stock carbs (4791 center/4792 outers, if memory serves, but those may be the 340 S/S carbs) on a factory '69.5 A12 Edelbrock intake instead. Not as much power but more fun on the street, and kept the element of surprise!
Yep, those numbers sound right, i got my vac pods and accel pumps mixed up, all three had accel pumps and no vac on any, full mech setup, iirc i had to put blocks under them for linkage clearance.
These little holleys on the ends are called "dumpers", you can set the linkage to bring them in at a certain percent of the middle carbs linkage position, when there's enough vac/air flow through the venturi to let them work, maybe somewhere around 70 t0 80 %, make sense?
OOPS, the ECG's ends do have pumps, don't know what i was thinking.
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Location: atlanta | That's the fuel line setup i wanna run chuck, whose linkage is that? what carbs are they, Rochester 2G's?
A little more progress today, replaced the rear universal joint and installed the driveshaft, install the new battery and ground cables, installed the new swedged battery terminals and covers, ran a new #10 wire with a fusible link from the alt to the the starter relay, installed a fusible link and bypassed the ammeter, removed and replaced the alt and new electronic regulator after having them checked out, and i ain't talking Autozone, i mean a dedicated auto electrical shop with a guy that knows his doodoo. Gonna be real soon for cranking the motor.
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Location: little rock, AR | Whose that knocking in my Block
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Location: atlanta | oldwood - 2015-05-21 11:11 PM
Whose that knocking in my Block
I know its not Mr. Rod
But what's the Blue Smoke cumin out my Hole
I took My Viagra but I'm feelin Kinda Limp
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Dorsey, you sure ya didn't get that Viagra mixed up with something else? by the way Haiku is only three lines, i believe. |
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Location: atlanta | Worked on the motor, trying to keep it running for the break in, the new starter started acting up yesterday and was making a hell of a noise, didn't want to mess up the flywheel so called it a day, today we dropped the left header and exhaust, removed the starter, i had another new one here and we compared the bendix movement and determined the starter wasn't extending far enough to engage the flywheel correctly, the new starter solved that problem. I could get the motor to run, but only by priming and filling the fuel bowl, today we took the line loose and had no gas past the regulator, next we filled a container with gas and it sucked some into the pump, but still no gas,i'm thinking bad regulator, removed the input line to the regulator, nothing, went a got a new fuel pump, fixed the problem, tomorrow, re-install the exhaust, and try to break the motor in. Gotta admit the motor sounds pretty good for a ballpark dial in, haven't set the timing or played with the jetting, and the first motor i've built in many moons. The way things are going, i may be cruising by Christmas, and i mean Christmas this year. |
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Location: atlanta | Break-in went pretty good, thought i had a temp problem, didn't think the stat was opening, but it tested good on the stove, i think it's a bad temp gauge, it's new, but who knows, no water in the oil, no steam, no oil leaks, no strange noises. Next i have to adjust the valves, set the timing and play with the center carb. Chuck was right the side pipes sound good, mellow as heck. |
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Location: Perth Australia | Good stuff
Wheres the movie
Took 2 days to get the cam broken in on mine
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Location: atlanta | Film at 11:00 Mick, was going to make a video today, but my two topless female assistants weren't down for it! :-). these core plugs seem to be holding so far. by the way, here's how i by-passed the fire starter (ammeter), dual field 60 amp alt, I ran a 10G wire from the output lug of the alt, with a 14G fusible link at the starter relay lug, the field wire remains the same, the second field wire is grounded. A 12G wire from the alt to the headlight switch power lug with a fusible link at the switch end. The 12G original power in to the ammeter from the starter relay lug is disconnected from the ammeter and a fusible link installed and runs to the tie point for all the rest of the circuits and as a return for battery power if the alt is not engaged. |
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | Guess what show I seen this '61 fury convertible on
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Location: Perth Australia | The last bit has got me a bit
It sounds like you have 2 supplies going to the headlight switch?
The alternator should have B+ all the time (not like the generator), so there is no need to have a wire to cover if the alternator is not working
If you have 2 supplies going to the same place, each with its own fuse, you can basically add the 2 fuses together and come up with what the circuit is fused at, as an example, 2 wires, each with a 20 amp fuse coming from the same place and going to the same place will be a 40 amp circuit
(before anyone goes nuts about some stupid long formula to get an exact current rating, this is an indication and an advice not to have a double supply)
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Location: atlanta | OK, here's a friend of mine holding the carb for the second break in session, man is he anal about this car! sometimes i wonder who's car it is. :-)
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Location: So. Cal | Are you selling your car Fenix? I didn't expect to see it here. Is everything OK?
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Location: atlanta | fenders on, hood install mocked up, front frame rail end fixed, bumper center and drivers side section installed and mocked up on car, 75% of the trim is ready for pick up at the polishers, including the grill, 3 brand new Holley 94's, one Edelbrock and two "bully 94" dumpers, new hoses and lift cylinders for the top which now works.
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Did you do the frame repair?
Not that hard to straighten out, is it? (mine wasnt anyway)
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Location: atlanta | Yes Mick, looks like I'm at it again, tried to sell it, tried to trade it, nobody wants a project unless it's free, or almost free.
I didn't personally do the repair on the frame, I don't have the equipment, and probably the skills either. The guys did a great job, measured it six ways from Sunday before welding anything permanently.
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Location: atlanta | Picked up some trim pieces and dropped off more at the polishers, all came out great, especially like the grill.
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Location: atlanta | Moved the car under it's own power today, been 27 months at least.
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Location: little rock, AR | Can someone do the hokey pokey and make the you tube come up. Roger, do you have a grill guard??? Difficult part to find, I knew you were eyeing mine on the '60 Ply that I met you with. Don't ask its going on my '61.
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | I wish I was close to mine being finished. If I had the money I would take to a body shop and have them fix the body and primer it then I would let my dad paint the car. The only 2 body shops I know that is good is Marks auto body and Buckmans in Melbourne, FL. My dad knows the owner of Buckmans auto body. I have a gallon of epoxy primer for the car and some black paint from the other '61 |
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Location: atlanta | Yes Dorsey, i do have a grill guard, and that's not what i was eyeing when you were here, I was actually eyeing Your sister !! |
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | Shows video as private. I would of love to see the video.
Oh by the way watch out for walkers. The show I watch on AMC is filmed were you live |
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | Did you decide to sell this car??? There's an ad down in cars for sale on ebay and craigs with your car in it..... |
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Location: atlanta | it's for sale for the right price, but i can't even come close to breaking even,i did turn down 15K the other day, besides i have been fighting this thing for so long, it's become like climbing a mountain and almost reaching the summit only to have to climb (or fall) back down, i really don't want to do that. This will never be the car i envisioned, but it's the best i can do.
Baby Blue? well that's in the plan, but i'm trying to at least have a driver, and i think that's the biggest mistake i made with this car, if there's one thing i learned, it's the old saying,"get it running, get it right" and it's so true, that is unless ya have deep pockets and plenty of time, i don't have either, it was probably foolish for me to attempt it in the first place. |
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Location: little rock, AR | Quit be hard on yourself. Its a nice car that you've put a lot of effort in. Now get it running for the holidays. We ALL want to see you driving it in a youtube video. Merry Christmas to you and your muslim GF. lol |
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I have the same dilemma with my 60, had calls for it, but not even a tire kicker has come to annoy me, and it will never be like what I pictured in my head, so if it dont sell (which I dont think its going to), then it will be fixed to go and drive and maybe, made nicer later
Looking better all the time Fenix
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Hang in there, fenix! I'm low budget too, and I learned years ago
that if you can't drive it, you can't fully enjoy it. That's why
I decided to get my Plymouth running/driving just the way it is,
even though it looks like an old Dawg that's been wollering
around in the mud!
BTW, if you need a hand, I'm only 60 miles West of Atlanta; feel
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Location: atlanta | cbrayinga - 2015-12-21 6:36 AM
Hang in there, fenix! I'm low budget too, and I learned years ago
that if you can't drive it, you can't fully enjoy it. That's why
I decided to get my Plymouth running/driving just the way it is,
even though it looks like an old Dawg that's been wollering
around in the mud!
BTW, if you need a hand, I'm only 60 miles West of Atlanta; feel
free to PM me if you want.
You said the magic word before..... Schlitz!! Mmmmmmmm, it just
so happens to be my favorite beer! ; )
Thanks for the offer, smart move on getting it running and driving first, wish I was as smart as you people up in Tallapoosa
Wollering ! LOL, now that's a word i ain't heard lately.
Schlitz? all beer is good, i guess my favorite is, the next one! , and remember, beer is God's way of showing us He loves us.
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | I have been working on my my '61 on my off days at work. I got the hell out of my last job I worked there for over 3 years and never got a raise so 1 day I said its time to get the hell out . I got a job making more money . I have benefits and 15% of my pay goes to my 401k. I also get a raise every 6 months. My notes come 1st but if I have extra in my check I buy what I need for my 61.
When it arrives I put it in the car so I know were its at.
I was wondering how far are y'all from were the Walking Dead is filmed. I have been watching the show since it started.
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VERY cool. I love the mix of that black paint and those chrome goodies.
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Location: atlanta | Okay, installed the rechromed front bumper and repolished headlight trim rings, yes, i know they are 60's, but they were laying around and perfect, just had them polished. Next comes the mascara and side spears and the bumper over rider ( bumper bar)
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | lookin good , did you try the hood over the rad cap ----------------------------------------------------later |
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Location: atlanta | Thanks Chris, wish i had won the Powerball so i could get ol' Blacksheep painted. |
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Location: atlanta | Well didn't get as much done as i thought, did install the front fender trim and the mascara, R & R' d the front bumper to adjust it, built a screen for the hood scoop outta the old chrome muffler heat shield the exhaust guy crunched. Next is the mascara fender spears and the front bumper over rider. Sorry to bore ya to death, but anything i get done after almost 3 years is a big deal for Me.
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Location: Perth Australia | Looking like its almost ready to go
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Us old folks sure are time poor. Make the most of it I say. I want to see pics of this thing with rego plates on it and you complaining about rear tyre traction.
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Location: atlanta | Thanks for all the comments, encouragement, and compliments. This has been a long haul to even get HER where SHE is, i have never seen a car as uncooperative as this one! my helper and i were putting the hood on the other day, my side was going fine, i heard a squealing sound and told him to get some PB blaster and put it on the stud and blind nut, about that time i hear a snap, yep, the blind nut came loose, since i don't own a welder, and couldn't weld anyway with this defib in me, it's off to the shop, another 120 bucks shot up a swine's posterior. I now have front seal leaking in the trans, still have to extract the exhaust studs, seal them, and reinstall them, this will be done a a local shop with a lift, i'm not getting under HER again, it would take me so long to get out from under HER and up on my feet that i would either freeze to death, or starve, which ever came first!
"BLACK CARS MATTER" !
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Hang in there Roger - it will soon be ready for long roadtrips! The car has a nasty down to business look - cool! |
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Location: Tallapoosa, GA | fenix - 2016-01-21 9:35 AM
Thanks for all the comments, encouragement, and compliments. This has been a long haul to even get HER where SHE is, i have never seen a car as uncooperative as this one! my helper and i were putting the hood on the other day, my side was going fine, i heard a squealing sound and told him to get some PB blaster and put it on the stud and blind nut, about that time i hear a snap, yep, the blind nut came loose, since i don't own a welder, and couldn't weld anyway with this defib in me, it's off to the shop, another 120 bucks shot up a swine's posterior. I now have front seal leaking in the trans, still have to extract the exhaust studs, seal them, and reinstall them, this will be done a a local shop with a lift, i'm not getting under HER again, it would take me so long to get out from under HER and up on my feet that i would either freeze to death, or starve, which ever came first!
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You got a great sense of humor, Roger!! It's alot like mine. Glad
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You wouldn't have to starve under the car.... a couple fried
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Location: atlanta | yep, i remember back in the day, had a 55 chevy, had a scoop off of an F-600 ford dump truck, the big ford trucks ran them backwards for some reason, probably to pull hot air out of the engine bay, those scoops would be outta place on a 61, this is old school stuff, anyway, why do you ask?
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She's looking FANTASTIC, Roger!!! One of these days when
I got enough extra ca$h for gas, I'm gonna cruise on over there
to visit... (and I'll bring some brewskies) Tain't easy
but you're doing very very well under the circumstances, Bro!!
And, by the way, I LOVE the mascara around those headlights!!!
darn, that looks WAY cool!! You're almost finished with
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Location: little rock, AR | Well it looks like the part that I sent ya is doing its job!!! lol
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Location: little rock, AR | I see your MASCARA color matches your thong. Bright and shiney. lol |
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Location: Georgia | Mucho de Goodo Roger! Hopefully the warm temps this week will allow some serious miles put on her. She looks tough! Drive
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | I hope you bring it to the pace car show in Pulaski, TN this year. I am sorry mine wont be there its still under restoration. the date of the show is 9/24/2016 The location will be Martin College. When the flyers come out and if any fellow forward looker wants me to mail you 1 pm your address and I will be more than happy to send 1
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Location: atlanta | Paul Hettick - 2016-03-06 8:57 PM
It ready needs those quarter panel mounted scoops.
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Location: atlanta | Little update on the Whack-A -Mole 61 Plymouth. Had a power steering leak, had two pumps, both leaking, found a local hyd shop, waited several day, picked it up, not pumping, took it back, picked it up the next day, works, No turn sigs/brake/tail lights, badly gummed up switch, one contact recessed, no good, fixed that, no horns, bad relay, 2nd relay bad, horns work, but only one, new set of horns. Drive it about two miles and start hearing a clunking noise, pull over, drivers side rear wheel has two lugs missing and one lug has pulled the stud loose, so there's no way to take the lug off, and no way to cut the lug, some of the other lugs are loose on other wheels I may have to get someone with a plasma cutter to cut the center out of the rim so i can get between the rim and the brake drum with a wiz wheel or sawzall .....................cue Sonny and Cher
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Location: little rock, AR | I told you about letting HER play with your nuts!!! You need to quit listening to the Beat Goes On and get your nuts re-tightened. |
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Location: atlanta | OK, spent the day getting the rim off, had to cut a few studs off and finally did got it off, 5 new studs,for the axle flange, a trip to get new lug nuts at Summit, this time the lugs were torqued with torque wrench, time to drive it around the block a few times and bring her back to check the lugs again, NOPE, blow a freeze plug out and have to have it rollbacked to the house, luckily i had a few beers and after a while when my bladder was full, i let her know how i felt, right in the grill, cue Sonny and Cher..................
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Location: atlanta | Father O'Brian from the local Catholic church is coming over tomorrow and perform an exorcism ritual on the car, he said to make sure i had a copy of Mike Oldfield's "Tubular Bells" to play as he does his thing, oh, and he's bringing a new freeze plug that's been "blessed" by Richard Petty. |
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Location: little rock, AR | fenix - 2016-03-26 11:15 PM
OK, spent the day getting the rim off, had to cut a few studs off and finally did got it off, 5 new studs,for the axle flange, a trip to get new lug nuts at Summit, this time the lugs were torqued with torque wrench, time to drive it around the block a few times and bring her back to check the lugs again, NOPE, blow a freeze plug out and have to have it rollbacked to the house, luckily i had a few beers and after a while when my bladder was full, i let her know how i felt, right in the grill, cue Sonny and Cher.................. So we just need to call you "Stud-ly"
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Location: atlanta | Went to talk to the machine shop guy that did the work on the engine, told him about the freeze plug, he said they were installed correctly, i told him about the two gals of anti-freeze and the 70 buck rollback bill, he's says he can't do anything about that, he gives me a freeze plug, i asked him what if another freeze plug blows out, he says, come back and i give ya another one, i'm not happy.
I get a neoprene freeze plug and install it, seals it good, well the brakes were feeling spongy, found a leaking wheel cylinder at the rear, replaced it and bled the brakes, much better, take it down the road, SOB, another freeze plug blows out, what the hell!!!! |
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Location: Minor Hill, TN | The plugs might be bad , I got a set of dorman copper freeze plugs for $16.99 a set, it comes with more than you need , Auto zone can get these for you. I hope this helps some. |
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That old car has spirit though (evil?), and obviously you have too. Keep at it, you are close to taming it now I think.
Those convex plugs are problematic, I had dramas too with my 413 head plugs which were installed by an engine builder. I put the block plugs in and they are good (I am not an auto mechanic but fitter and turner).
Below links to some reading on the subject.
Hope this helps.
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https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=10&...
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