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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | It didn't take long for someone to try and flip Tom's Firedome conv......for $250,000
http://www.hemmings.com/classifieds/dealer/desoto/firedome/1693041....
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Location: Layton, Utah | Shim the hood hinges a bit to make the hood drop in the rear. First thing I notice on a restored car is panel gap adjustments. DeSoto lives !!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | I feel relieved I already have a similar car. I would hate to take on a $2000+ monthly finance payment
like that.
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Location: The Mile High City | Man-o-man! If you ran Gary Guidinger's car into my car - they wouldn't be worth that much smashed together!
Edited by Lancer Mike 2014-11-06 6:06 PM
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Location: Fleetwood, Pa | At least they could do is throw in a travel trailer. That way you could justify the mortgage payments......
Edited by sidesho_bob1961 2014-11-06 12:10 PM
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Location: The Mile High City | Asking $$$ is one thing, getting it is another.
Didn't Alan Faltus recently sell his? As I recall, he was asking $125,000 ish +/- and didn't sell it on eBay although sold it through another conduit.
They are both outstanding cars, but even if prices were equal, I would choose Faltus' car over this one. It is better.
Maybe it's those AACA award medallions. I need to get me some of those! |
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Lancer Mike - 2014-11-06 11:18 AM
Asking $$$ is one thing, getting it is another.
Didn't Alan Faltus recently sell his? As I recall, he was asking $125,000 ish +/- and didn't sell it on eBay although sold it through another conduit.
They are both outstanding cars, but even if prices were equal, I would choose Faltus' car over this one. It is better.
Maybe it's those AACA award medallions. I need to get me some of those! :laugh:
Allan Faltus's car was light blue. I don't think this one was his. |
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Location: Ocala, Florida | This went through Auctions America and sold for about 110,000 less.
Edited by The Chrysler Kid 2014-11-06 2:47 PM
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Location: The Mile High City | Oops! Sorry about the confusion. Faltus' was - I think - Seacoast Aqua with a Pearl White sweep. Totally different cars.
I was just comparing recent asking prices for the two different cars.
Edited by Lancer Mike 2014-11-06 3:06 PM
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Location: Los Angeles, California | I strongly dislike flippers, its as if once the top becomes fabric, its about money, not the car or enjoying it anymore..... (What did it sell for before?) |
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Location: The Mile High City | The Chrysler Kid - 2014-11-06 12:46 PM
This went through Auctions America and sold for about 110,000 less.
I think it sold for $192,500 out-the-door. Here's your original post, Randy. Brad Jones kept track of the auction and reported back on the sale price:http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=53915&posts=50&highlight=58 desoto convertible&highlightmode=1#M455098
Wouldn't that be sweet if we could all earn $57,500 (less shipping from Indiana to Pennsylvania + title, registration fees, and taxes) in three months! By doing nothing.
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Location: The Mile High City | In thinking about that more, we know the purchase price - but we don't know all the extras. They may have to get pretty close to the $250,000 asking price to squeeze a profit out of it. Risky business! |
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Location: Ocala, Florida | Wow foggy memory. I must have confused it with the '57 that sold. |
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Location: The Mile High City | This car (currently for sale) looks terrific in its current colors Spruce Green with a Willow Green sweep. The data tag shows it was once Spanish Gold with a black sweep and a black top - that would have been interesting to see too. I don't think I have seen another '58 De Soto in Spanish Gold - a little more yellow to it than Adventurer Gold by the look of the paint chips.
636 is the red vinyl bolsters with tan fabric interior - that might have looked a little funky with the gold and black.
Edited by Lancer Mike 2014-11-07 10:40 AM
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Location: Montreal, Canada | Lancer Mike - 2014-11-07 10:30 AM
This car (currently for sale) looks terrific in its current colors Spruce Green with a Willow Green sweep. The data tag shows it was once Spanish Gold with a black sweep and a black top - that would have been interesting to see too. I don't think I have seen another '58 De Soto in Spanish Gold - a little more yellow to it than Adventurer Gold by the look of the paint chips.
636 is the red vinyl bolsters with tan fabric interior - that might have looked a little funky with the gold and black.
I really like the two tone green this DeSoto convertible wears right now, but that Gold, Black with Red and Tan colour combo must have been fantastic!
You gotta love the 50's for those crazy colour matches! My own car was a bit funky with the Green and Yellow exterior and Black and White interior!.. But it does not beat my friend's 58 Plymouth Savoy's original colours: Coral and Beige exterior with a two tone green interior!! |
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Location: Parts Unknown | My first FL car was a 57 NY'er coupe in that "dijon mustard" yellow (DeSoto called it "Spanish Gold" in 1958)
and charcoal, with a grey/black interior. It was jaw-dropping stunning. As I found the car, the charcoal had
repainted white, and it lacked the striking contrast, but under the trim revealed the true story. It remains my
favorite understated and never-seen fin-era color combos. This car would be magnificent in those colors. I
like the greens for being different (and period), but don't find them to be knock-yer-sox-off impressive together.
Willow Green (the lighter shade) with black is a real wing-dinger good looking combo. Personally, I prefer the
Charcoal (metallic black), as it has a slightly "softer" appearance in keeping with a DeSoto's more upmarket,
formal status.
Did DeSoto have a TAN interior fabric ? I am only remembering a light grey.
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Location: The Mile High City | Interestingly, the fabric book (special thanks to Bob Hamilton) shows the red and tan - warm gray, but also indicates that the UAU paint should go with either the gray or green interiors! UAU isn't listed with the red interior - so put that in your pipe and smoke it!
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Location: Parts Unknown | I was having a "WTF ?" moment, and then realized those were FIREDOME fabrics, and they are different
from the Fireflite fabrics .... so that leads me to wonder how much variation the Fireflite fabrics had for color ?
I am having a hard time pulling up a visual of anything but grey cloth with the various colored bolsters.
One of my early fin era car mentors was really into the oddities of production and special order stuff, causing
me, in turn, to be aware of such things and how the process of special ordering worked. It was something of
a pat "policy" to standardize colors and combinations to promote a fleet of cars out there with some sense of
design worked into them, as a lot of people have no design sense whatsoever. More that we might think !
But there remained a special order override for those who absolutely insisted on bad mismatches and horrid
combinations !
I am really amazed by the Spanish Gold and red interior combo on this car. That is a serious clash of toning !
But somebody obviously insisted on doing it ! I can easily see a 58 DeSoto like mine in Spanish Gold and Charcoal
with a grey and black interior like my old NY'er, but I don't think DeSoto really offered a black-based fabric, did
they ? Wouldn't it be fun to hear the story behind that yellow and red car ?
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Location: The Mile High City | Must have been a 49er's fan!
Here are the Fireflite fabrics (again, special thanks to Bob Hamilton). I see what you mean about the (cool) gray fabric...although there still are a few colors available!
Edited by Lancer Mike 2014-11-07 4:48 PM
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Location: Parts Unknown | These interior fabrics were notoriously quick to deteriorate, so finding original interiors has always
been a hard find. And quite honestly, I don't think I have ever seen an original interior that did not
involve either the center combo (643 ?) or the far right example (646 ?). Maybe I saw a really dirty
blue one in a 4HT a million years ago, but my memory is fuzzy on that.
Am I seeing things, or is the fabric the same on the center and far right examples shown ??? ... or
is one more black than the other ?
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Location: The Mile High City | my wild guess: it is the same fabric - just different sections of the same basic material. |
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