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Location: San Antonio, TX | According to the receipts the engine was rebuilt in 1997. It appears to have less than 100 miles on it since then.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Got all the way down to the power seat troughs. Whew. I'm feeling really, really fortunate about the condition of the floors. Once I have the floors cleaned up I'll be installing the new carpet. No luck posting pictures. I'll try again later.
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Nice 'going' Dave!
I like the More-Door models, mucho!
They are a sort of Devil-may-care car, nowadays!
How does your car's power seat operate?
Thanks to the recent generosity of website member Gregcon, I've acquired and/or have rebuilt a power seat, and would like to
Pay-it-Forward, to a worthy person, in Re; those spare parts' availability to a needy restorer.
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Location: Michigan | Dave. Make sure the cam is broken in properly. I am tearing apart a 273 V8 out of a 66 cuda because the previous owner said that it was drive home after the rebuild then parked. Well. .the cam was never broke in to the lifters and it ate the cam with less than 100 miles 'since the rebuild'. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Power seat is kinda jumpy. Might just be the switch. Not sure yet. I've got the entire assembly on my bench for cleaning, lube and test. Hopefully all goes well.
OK, pics are uploading now.
As you can see there is no rust in the power seat troughs. I'm very lucky. So far the only real rust I've found is on the passenger side. Leaky water valve caused some problems. I'll cut out about a 1 inch by 2 inch area near the forward frame bolt. Other than that I'm going with Por-15 and then Herculiner.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Did a little refresh work on the headlight doors.
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Location: bishop, ca | I'm curious about which style of power seat control switches your car has in it (you gotta check the switch,
internally).
The switch will need a cleaning and lub'ing, if it is untouched, original, anyway.
One , later, style is more mechanically advanced, internally ...looks the same, externally, as the earlier version.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Doesn't look half bad actually. I'll clean up the contacts and lube the rocker switches. Yet another reason I love old cars... electrical components that I can actually work on.
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Location: bishop, ca | Not too bad, there!
Here's some pics of the First Generation (like your car) and the improved-design Second Generation of the power seat
control.
You need, carefully, to rub-off the electrical contact-corrosion inside the switch, to improve its operation.
Looks like its contact points are in GOOD condition (as opposed to my examples.
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Doesn't look half bad actually. I'll clean up the contacts and lube the rocker switches. Yet another reason I love old cars... electrical components that I can actually work on.
I am hearing you on the electrics! (I am a fitter and Turner). The power switch back panel pics are cool, never seen a circuit board like that. Flattened copper wire, unreal
Your car looks to be in very similar condition as my Imperial was when I got it in 2010.
Looks like you are doing a great job, keep the pics coming, it's a buzz watching the progress of these cars as they come back to life. And it's a 57 Desoto!
When will you drive it ?
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Thanks. I drove it three times in July. Then I pulled the seats and carpet out. I'm almost done with the floors. There wasn't much to do. Couple of small rust issues from a leaky water valve. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Power seat switch serviced and reassembled. Bench tested the power seat mechanism and it worked like a champion. I have a question though... the switch was not installed on the seat when I got the car. So does anyone know... the switch toggle has ridges on one side only. Do they face up or down?
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Mine also operates jumpy. Also, the red power feed under the carpet
gets chafed easily because of the routing. I noticed that your center
plastic hood medallion looks new. Is it original? I have a Fireflite sedan
and a Firedome 4dr hdtp and both are cracked and separating. Looks like
a fine original car you have there.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Hey Perry,
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. The hood emblem is new. I got it from a guy named George Laurie who lives in Australia. Not sure if he still makes them.
Post pictures of your cars when you get a chance.
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Location: New Castle PA | Hi, Perry. Always wanted to meet you, but never seem to be in your part of the state when there's a show. Yes, George Laurie and Emblemagic are the 2 sources for the hood emblem. I have contact information for each if you need it. Your cars look nice (I have several pictures in my collection from various shows you've attended). Maybe see you next year at the NDC show near Baltimore. |
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Sorry, but haven't figured out pictures yet.
I am curious where you ordered your carpet from. Most suppliers only carry carpet for 2 doors. I did manage to find mine
at Newark Supply.
Ed,
I thought I would see you at Carlisle this year. I've had the only 57 Desoto there the last 5 years.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Got the carpet from Factory OEM Parts. Very happy with it. Heel pad is not exactly like original but close. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Checking how things fit and look. Not all together yet. Seat was recovered some time before I got it. Not horrible... it will do until I get the original materials.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Plunking away... making some progress. And a couple of before pictures.
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Location: Upstate NY | Wow! Great job! Your steering wheel is in amazingly good condition. Who did your dash?
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Rear view mirror back in today
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Finally! I got the dash back together. Took much longer than I had hoped. Partly because I'm picky. But now I have a fresh wiring harness and all the lights, gauges, switches, radio, clock, etc have been gone through. Everything works. Absolutely everything. Even the stupid lighters that will never get used.
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Location: New Castle PA | Very nice! I don't think I've ever seen a pushbutton surround like that on the glovebox door. Was that an accessory of some sort? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | While I do have a great bit of paperwork on this car there is no mention of this. It is actually pretty slick and functional. You just hook the side of your index finger under the bottom lip and push the button with your thumb. Gives you total control of the door, both pulling and pushing. You can control the pressure just right as you close the door to get the latch to catch nicely. Neat little add. It must have been fairly specific to this application. You can see in the pictures that it uses the original mounting holes. You just have to drill them out through the face of the door to mount.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Works like a champ on '57 DeSoto's too
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Location: upstate new york | Dave,
I have a couple questions....nice pics of the car by the way....The power seat switch....mine came all apart like that also...I think i'm missing a piece inside that keeps it all snug in the switch...do you have a diagram or pictures of the mechanism? Is there a spacer piece that keeps the black plastic box, the circuit board all snug inside the casting???
Also where did you get you carpet from? I need 1 for my 57 New Yorker....
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Been putting this off for too long. BTW... this was the good side. The other side had a very leaky wheel cylinder. It was really ugly, but I forgot to take a picture.
Not sure how that chunk of shoe came off.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Restored a set of Texas 57 plates for the sedan.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Thanks... making progress, however slight. Plan to drive it till the fall and then get it ready for a re-spray. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Working the rear glass stainless trim. Top piece had a pretty good dent on the edge. It was in a tough spot to work on, but I got a decent result I think.
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Location: Upstate NY | I agree! Really nice work. I also would like to know the technique. What did you use? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Worked from the backside of the trim with the face flush against wood. Worked the spoon north-south and east-west as I struck the back. That got it popped back out pretty nice. Then sand and polish.
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Location: So. Cal | You have great coordination with the camera! I'm not sure if I could have taken that last shot. Thanks for the great explanation. |
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Location: Upstate NY | Yes, thanks for your pictures. I have some stainless to fix. I at least see I need to buy a spoon. I hope mine comes out like yours! |
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Location: Alvin, Texas | Nice work on the trim!
There is some videos on YouTube as well. Check out the car in the back ground.
https://youtu.be/Ft41IG2BAG8
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Location: San Antonio, TX | There... much better. Now have a matched pair of 57 Dagmars. Thanks Danny.
I have a really nice 58 driver's side for sale or trade now. I'll list it in the parts section.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Today is a little bittersweet. Went for a drive this morning, but I knew it was going to be the last one for a while. Got my painter lined up so now I am going to strip her down. As we all know there's a lot of chrome and stainless to come off. Going with original Sahara Tan and a Mandarin Rust color sweep.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Yeah, looking forward to seeing it with fresh paint. The guy doing the paint did my friend's 61 Starliner. Awesome job.
The trim tag on this car says XXX which is Sahara Tan. I have the original dealer sales invoice and it says Color Sweep in the listed options. Not really sure what happened there. I think it was delivered as an all Sahara Tan car. The respray done in the 90's added brown to the sweep and the roof. So all that being said...
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Yes. I'm going off a Dupont chip, but yes Sahara Tan XXX and Mandarin Rust RRR.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Ok, I know it doesn't really matter but it's got me curious on how this car was painted. I pulled off the ugly aftermarket rocker stainless which I never liked anyway. It's staying off by the way. And the dogleg makes it pretty obvious this car got it's color sweep later. How much later who knows. The dealer invoice clearly states color sweep. The sweep color is definitely not factory. And they painted the roof weird too. Ah well mystery lost in time.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Finally got everything off. Whew. Going to the paint shop on Monday.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I wasn't certain certain Sahara Tan and Mandarin Rust would look great together. I am really happy with this color combo now!
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Looks great!
I have a '57 Chrysler parts car that colour combination, and it looks sharp, even as a pile of crumpled rust...
I have to say...the way you laid out the parts in your garage, makes it look like the body just vanished, and all the trim just fell to the floor suddenly! :D |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Put the deck lid and hood on today. Getting closer.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Oh well... too bad it couldn't have been a bright sunny day to show off the new paint. Got the sedan back today. Very pleased with the result. Now I'll start putting it all back together.
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Location: So. Cal | Good idea. It was really hot when I painted the firewall on my car, but I was surprised how long it took to fully cure. It was about 3-4 weeks before I felt it was ready to wash it without damage to the finish. But I used a polyurethane finish, which does take longer. Are you going to black out the lower fronts of those fenders? Edit: I take it back, I think the DeSoto needs body color there for continuity.
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I don't normally put my cars out in the Texas sun on purpose. After looking at the picture I posted I went back out and covered up my dash
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Location: New Castle PA | Dave, as you know, I think you're doing a great job, and I know you're trying to be correct when you can. What made you decide to paint the mandarin rust on the front fenders? Not trying to be a PITA, just curious, because it wouldn't have been difficult to do the insert thing like the factory did. |
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Location: DFW, TX | Agree. The "factory" did it that way because they were cheap and didn't want to spend the time to do the job correctly!
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I guess because both my 57 DeSotos came from the factory as solid color cars. The sedan was XXX and the 4dr hdtp LLL. So I don't know what the insert thing is. Don't worry Ed I'm open to any and all suggestions. Especially from you. I might not take them all, but I will certainly consider them.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | 57burb - 2018-11-14 4:12 PM
I bet he will also spend more than two seconds aligning the trim! LOL
haha... you got that right
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Location: Upstate NY | Looks really nice. Were your Fireflite emblems that clean or did you have the pits removed and rechromed? If so where, I need to do mine. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Cleaned and polished. I have been very fortunate with this car. It was in Wichita Falls, Texas all it's life. Hardly any rust at all and the pot metal trim is pretty darn nice. The tail towers are the exception... rough, rough. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Dave, the result looks great !! |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Yes Dave, the roof in Mandarin Rust looks much better.
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Location: DFW, TX | I had no issue with the paint before, but I do like the "rusty" roof on it now! Great job Dave, it's looking awesome. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Thanks. Yeah I liked it with the Sahara Tan roof. I like the Mandarin Rust roof better. Looking forward to getting it back together. Still got lots of stainless to polish. Getting there though. |
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Location: Lower Mainland BC | ToMopar - 2018-11-15 6:11 AM
Here a picture of these fender inserts
The fender inserts allowed the fender shop to produce fenders in the normal lower colours with out concern for the colour of the sweeps. The sweep inserts would be pre-painted in the sweep colours and then mated to the fenders at the appropriate time. They did that with 56 Dodges too with fender caps for the bit of saddle that flowed over the hood and down to the doors, over the read corner of the fenders.
Fender inserts courtesy of macedon:
Location for the fender inserts:
56 Dodge Fender Caps (courtesy of Dave N. (DepsilonD)
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Dave, like to follow your progress......
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Haha I know, right. Mexican blanket today... very close to original... someday. Hopefully soon.
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | ToMopar - 2019-01-18 12:27 AM
Dave, like to follow your progress......
......and the mexican upholstery
That was the optional DeSoto "Lineas de rayas" upholstery pattern. 
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Not sure why the patterned fabric looks kinda green. It's definitely brown. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I had to fabricate some moulding clips for the back light bottom stainless piece. Several of mine had rusted. One of the few places I had to deal with any rust on this car. Original clip on right.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I'm very close to done with the trunk. Cleaned the mat today. The upper left is not cleaned yet and what it looked like before. Cleaned up pretty good for 60+ years of sitting in a trunk.
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Location: Upstate NY | You have no idea how lucky you are to have a trunk mat! I have only seen a few and they are not that good. It looks fantastic. Great job! |
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Location: DFW, TX | Dave, you're doing some outstanding work there! The trunk mat is incredible. Those clips are notorious for rusting; apparently the factory didn't bother to coat or paint them at all. If you run into any more issues with them, many of those clips are available from RJ&L: www.rjlautofasteners.com
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Location: NY & VT | Nice to see a 4 door getting this kind of love, not unusual in Sweden but very unusual here, great job! |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Cleaned out the trunk...
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Location: So. Cal | Where are you going to put all that stuff now?? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | This is the front seat that was in the car when I got it. I always thought it was a high quality redo on the original frames. My upholstery guy thinks otherwise. He says it's factory. The frame looks quite a bit like my 4dr hdtp one. Hmmm... not sure. The frame has an ashtray socket on the back. But when I got it the material covered it and there was no ashtray. Hmmm...
Anyone recognize what it's from?
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Latest. Still need to adjust the trim a little. Not a whole lot though.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Rechroming isn't in the budget for this car. So I'll live with what I've got. At least for now anyhow.
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Location: DFW, TX | Absolutely beautiful. |
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Location: New Castle PA | I agree! One of the nicest sedans I know of... |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Yes, your taste in colors is nice
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Well you know how it goes sometimes. One thing leads to another. I figured since I had it apart anyhow that I would go ahead and recolor the dash pad. I wanted to try for something closer to the original dark brown. To my eye the SEM 25213 Carver Coco was nice. I happy with the way it turned out. I used the SEM product. Several (like 5 or 6) coats as it goes on really thin. I also used the prep spray SEM 38343.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Tail is back on finally!
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Ok, this has got to be my least favorite job. Headliner... argh. Now I suppose if I had done 50 or 100 of these it would be a breeze. But since this is only the 3rd one I've ever done I'm sure it's going to be a royal PITA. Yeah I'm whining, I know. Ugh, I just hate this job. I'll post the finished job... might be a few days and several dozen curses from now.
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Location: DFW, TX | I only farmed out four things - the chrome, the seat upholstery, the exhaust, and the headliner - and I'm glad I did!
It's a huge undertaking, but I know you'll do a great job!
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | LOL! I'll send you mine after you finish with your headliner...it's one job I DO NOT look forward to doing. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Just turned in the seats and materials to my upholstery shop. We went over the details and I gave them lots of pictures. It's a great shop with a strong reputation. Hope it all works out. If it does I'll have seats that look exceptionally close to factory. Now I just have to hold my breath for 4 - 6 weeks. |
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Until then...you have to drive it, sitting on a five gallon pail. :D |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Yay! Got my seats back. I'm pretty happy. They did a nice job.
Hey Ed, they got the scissors going in the right direction. I was very, very specific about that. I think I know why you see it done the other direction sometimes. It takes more fabric to do it the right way. The scissors pattern is railroad vs. up the roll. I bought 4 yards which was just enough to do the seats and door panels.
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Location: So. Cal | Nice! SMS pulls through for the finish. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Powerflite - 2019-07-16 4:05 PM
Nice! SMS pulls through for the finish.
I got the material from them quite a while ago. I can't believe it's been almost 18 months. Sheesh, time slips by.
It was a bit of a struggle with them originally shipping me the wrong material. It all got squared away after a bit. Certainly can't complain about the quality of the material though.
The shop here in San Antonio did a nice job. |
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Location: somerville mass | amazing!!!!!!!!! car looks like it just rolled off the assembly line!!!!!!!!! |
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Location: New Castle PA | REALLY nice job with EVERYTHING you've done on this. The car is incredible! |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | macedon - 2019-07-16 10:22 PM
I got the material from them quite a while ago. I can't believe it's been almost 18 months. Sheesh, time slips by.
18 months only? Yes sometimes it takes longer as you expect.
Mine seat covers waiting approx 5 yrs until the going to the bench |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Door panels are a bit more challenging than I expected. Oh well, learned a lot on the first one. The next three will go quicker
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Location: somerville mass | when its finished it will look like it rolled off the assembly line...add some " new car smell " for effect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow! |
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Location: DFW, TX | Beautiful job! |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I used grow house foil I got on Amazon for the bottom of the door panels. It's not an exact match, but pretty darn close. It's not too expensive, it's heavy duty and most important it's readily available. Perhaps someone like SMS makes an exact match. Not sure, but I can imagine they charge more than what I found on Amazon
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Location: DFW, TX | That is a great idea! You have to be creative and resourceful with these cars. Are you able to use adhesives to get it to stay in position and lay flat? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Been awhile, but I'm making progress
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Location: So. Cal | It's disappointing to me that the Fireflite sedan doesn't have the dips in the middle of the seats like the coupes do. Even the 4dr hardtop New Yorker that I parted out had the dip in the front seat, and a foldable arm rest in the back seat - which is really cool! Why did they cheap out on the Fireflites, or was that an extra option you had to purchase? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I've only seen one Fireflite sedan with an armrest in the rear seat. Apparently it was available as an option.
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Location: DFW, TX | Incredible! Looks like an assembly line photo. Great job.
It's too late now, but the green NYer 4dr HT has the dipped seats and a rear arm rest. They were pretty nice as of a year ago.
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Location: So. Cal | I have them as well, but mine aren't in as good of shape, and I am using the front seat as part of a couch in my back yard. However....you would need to make sure that the 4dr hardtop rear seat will interchange with the sedan. I'm sure the front will. But I am sure you will want to use those beautiful new seats as is, at least until they wear out.
All that cursing seems to have worked out great on your headliner. You would be very welcome to come to my place and do some cursing at my cars too!
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Location: San Antonio, TX | I might be interested in those seats. My 4dr hdtp 57 Fireflite has the dip of course, but no armrest. That's the yard in sunset, right? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Yeah, headliners are definitely a PITA! I like the dip as well, but I'll have to wait till I put my 4dr hdtp Fireflite together. I think the dip seats would fit, but the tray in a sedan much deeper. You would have to make a custom. I'll leave that to another. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | A question from a while back. Are you able to use adhesives to get it to stay in position and lay flat?
I did it in a similar fashion to original. So you have a sewn in backing strip that you then fold the foil over. Gives that crisp line. I had to pre-drill and hand sew since I used hardboard instead of cardboard for my door panels . That's really tedious and slow.
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Location: So. Cal | I'm confused. The strip is just sewn to the "scissors" material, the silver foil & maybe the foam backing, right? Or are you sewing it through the hardboard too? |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Sewn all the way through the hardboard. I had to pre-drill the hardboard to make it work. Factory original was sewn all the way through as well. But they were only going through cardboard. And I'm sure they had heavy duty sewing machine. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Plugging away. Haven't built the front door panels yet... soon I hope. I was a little nervous about cutting the hole for the ashtray. I definitely measured twice
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Location: DFW, TX | Incredible job, Dave! |
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Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Thanks for the tip about the mylar! I have ordered the same stuff for my '57. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Absolutely. You're welcome.
Just finished the new skirts for the power seat mechanism. The old ones were of course thrashed.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Installed
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | Dave, that looks marvelous. Just sit in the Flite will be a pleasure |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Polished up the dealer emblem. Gave it a wash.
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Hello. Could you post the picture of the cowl tag?
I just want to confirm my guessing:
PNT = 4RXR
TRM = 533 (or 534)
TR = None (Standard Equipment)
AG = 2
PS = 4
PB = 5
AH = 1
PW = 5
RM = None
SS = None
UC = 1 (Undercoating should be present, although it’s not visible)
SPL = None
CS = None (Standard Equipment)
BG = 3
A = None
B = None
C = None
Am I right?
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Location: New Castle PA | My guess: There's a 7 by the GG (glamour group) since that includes only the front bumper guards. A BG of 3 would be both front and rear bumper guards. Also, the PB power brakes would be a 9 not a 5. |
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| 57desoto - 2021-12-06 6:07 PM
My guess: There's a 7 by the GG (glamour group) since that includes only the front bumper guards. A BG of 3 would be both front and rear bumper guards. Also, the PB power brakes would be a 9 not a 5.
Besides the roof molding package, the glamour group includes the rear quarter stone shields – they are not present on this car.
Therefore I guessed the bumper guards only.
I’ve never seen rear bumper guards on the ’57 DeSotos; ’57 Chryslers did have. Do you have a picture of these?
Yes, you are right – the power brakes have coded 9, not 5; thanks for correction;
I also forgot the CS = 2; the color sweep was standard on Fireflite Sportsman Hardtops and Convertibles and wasn’t on Sedans…
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Location: New Castle PA | Here's a rear bumper guard for 1957 DeSoto.
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | 57desoto - 2021-12-07 12:28 PM
Here's a rear bumper guard for 1957 DeSoto.
Is this rear quarter chrome molding the "rear bumper guard" ...... good to know |
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Location: New Castle PA | Yes, Tom... The rear bumper guard is a wide, heavy, chromed piece instead of the narrow potmetal/chrome piece usually called "pinchweld molding" that's on cars without rear bumper guards. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | PNT = XXX
TRM = 533
TR = None
AG = 1
PS = 4
PB = 9
AH = 1
PN = 5
RM = None
SS = None
UC = None
SPL = None
CS = 1
BG = None
A = None
B = None
C = None
I decided to paint it RXR. I really love that combo.
The history on the paint for this car is a little muddied. Here are a few pictures that show what it was like when I bought it. Obviously it was resprayed in it's life. The interesting part is that the dealer invoice says colorsweep. I added the front bumper guards.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | It also has a power antenna. Originally I thought it was factory. Later I discovered a Dec 1961 date stamp on the motor. |
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Location: San Antonio, TX | Took my sister and family for a ride this past Sunday. We had a blast.
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Originally scheduled Sahara Tan (XXX) single tone color scheme and Single Spear Side Molding (CS = 1);
But in the last moment customer ordered a dual molding – it is very interesting!
Firstly, the front bumper guards less rear quarter stone shields and roof moldings puzzled me, because they don’t come separately, as stated Edward (57desoto) – they included in Glamour Group only.
But the mystery is solved: you just added their on it.
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Location: San Antonio, TX | More mystery. The car has stone shields. I had not put the right one back on yet. You can see it in the picture from when I brought it home. Once I get the RH stone shield polished up I'll install it. |
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Location: D-70199 Heslach | macedon - 2021-12-08 5:18 PM
Took my sister and family for a ride this past Sunday. We had a blast.
It looks as all of you have fun with your ride :-) |
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