Dave's 1957 Fireflite Sedan
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Posted 2015-06-23 6:50 PM (#482534)
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I'll start posting my pictures to as I dig into thecar



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Posted 2015-06-23 9:09 PM (#482562 - in reply to #482534)
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Hmmm...new frost plugs. Has the engine been gone through?
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Posted 2015-06-23 10:03 PM (#482572 - in reply to #482562)
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According to the receipts the engine was rebuilt in 1997. It appears to have less than 100 miles on it since then.
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Posted 2015-06-24 2:44 AM (#482592 - in reply to #482534)
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Great looking car, Dave. Congrats!
It's strange how you keep starting with a hardtop and but then end up with a sedan.
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Posted 2015-06-24 12:49 PM (#482634 - in reply to #482592)
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Thanks. I actually do like the look of the aluminum door frame sedans. LOTS of glass.
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Posted 2015-08-01 6:58 PM (#485855 - in reply to #482634)
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Got all the way down to the power seat troughs. Whew. I'm feeling really, really fortunate about the condition of the floors. Once I have the floors cleaned up I'll be installing the new carpet. No luck posting pictures. I'll try again later.

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Posted 2015-08-01 8:12 PM (#485856 - in reply to #485855)
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Nice 'going' Dave!

I like the More-Door models, mucho!

They are a sort of Devil-may-care car, nowadays!

How does your car's power seat operate?

Thanks to the recent generosity of website member Gregcon, I've acquired and/or have rebuilt a power seat, and would like to
Pay-it-Forward, to a worthy person, in Re; those spare parts' availability to a needy restorer.



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Posted 2015-08-01 10:43 PM (#485860 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave. Make sure the cam is broken in properly. I am tearing apart a 273 V8 out of a 66 cuda because the previous owner said that it was drive home after the rebuild then parked. Well. .the cam was never broke in to the lifters and it ate the cam with less than 100 miles 'since the rebuild'.
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Posted 2015-08-02 1:27 AM (#485865 - in reply to #485856)
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Power seat is kinda jumpy. Might just be the switch. Not sure yet. I've got the entire assembly on my bench for cleaning, lube and test. Hopefully all goes well.

OK, pics are uploading now.

As you can see there is no rust in the power seat troughs. I'm very lucky. So far the only real rust I've found is on the passenger side. Leaky water valve caused some problems. I'll cut out about a 1 inch by 2 inch area near the forward frame bolt. Other than that I'm going with Por-15 and then Herculiner.

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Posted 2015-08-16 4:30 PM (#487303 - in reply to #482534)
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Did a little refresh work on the headlight doors.



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Posted 2015-08-18 11:13 PM (#487491 - in reply to #482534)
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I'm curious about which style of power seat control switches your car has in it (you gotta check the switch,
internally).

The switch will need a cleaning and lub'ing, if it is untouched, original, anyway.


One , later, style is more mechanically advanced, internally ...looks the same, externally, as the earlier version.




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Posted 2015-08-19 2:44 AM (#487499 - in reply to #482534)
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What a nice car with lot of potential Dave - the engine does not have any leaks as it seems and the floorboards are another nice surprise
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Posted 2015-08-19 7:41 PM (#487563 - in reply to #487491)
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Doesn't look half bad actually. I'll clean up the contacts and lube the rocker switches. Yet another reason I love old cars... electrical components that I can actually work on.



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Posted 2015-08-20 3:07 AM (#487594 - in reply to #487563)
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Not too bad, there!

Here's some pics of the First Generation (like your car) and the improved-design Second Generation of the power seat
control.

You need, carefully, to rub-off the electrical contact-corrosion inside the switch, to improve its operation.

Looks like its contact points are in GOOD condition (as opposed to my examples.





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Posted 2015-08-21 7:35 AM (#487678 - in reply to #487563)
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Doesn't look half bad actually. I'll clean up the contacts and lube the rocker switches. Yet another reason I love old cars... electrical components that I can actually work on.


I am hearing you on the electrics! (I am a fitter and Turner). The power switch back panel pics are cool, never seen a circuit board like that. Flattened copper wire, unreal
Your car looks to be in very similar condition as my Imperial was when I got it in 2010.
Looks like you are doing a great job, keep the pics coming, it's a buzz watching the progress of these cars as they come back to life. And it's a 57 Desoto!

When will you drive it ?

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Posted 2015-08-21 2:27 PM (#487704 - in reply to #487678)
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Thanks. I drove it three times in July. Then I pulled the seats and carpet out. I'm almost done with the floors. There wasn't much to do. Couple of small rust issues from a leaky water valve.
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Posted 2015-08-23 2:13 PM (#487803 - in reply to #487704)
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Power seat switch serviced and reassembled. Bench tested the power seat mechanism and it worked like a champion. I have a question though... the switch was not installed on the seat when I got the car. So does anyone know... the switch toggle has ridges on one side only. Do they face up or down?



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Posted 2015-08-23 9:04 PM (#487821 - in reply to #482534)
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Hi Dave, I have a similar car and my switch has the ridges facing up.
Mine also operates jumpy. Also, the red power feed under the carpet
gets chafed easily because of the routing. I noticed that your center
plastic hood medallion looks new. Is it original? I have a Fireflite sedan
and a Firedome 4dr hdtp and both are cracked and separating. Looks like
a fine original car you have there.

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Posted 2015-08-23 10:32 PM (#487824 - in reply to #487821)
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Hey Perry,
Thanks for the info. Much appreciated. The hood emblem is new. I got it from a guy named George Laurie who lives in Australia. Not sure if he still makes them.

Post pictures of your cars when you get a chance.
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Posted 2015-08-24 6:29 AM (#487838 - in reply to #482534)
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Hi, Perry. Always wanted to meet you, but never seem to be in your part of the state when there's a show. Yes, George Laurie and Emblemagic are the 2 sources for the hood emblem. I have contact information for each if you need it. Your cars look nice (I have several pictures in my collection from various shows you've attended). Maybe see you next year at the NDC show near Baltimore.
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Posted 2015-08-24 10:28 PM (#487904 - in reply to #482534)
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Sorry, but haven't figured out pictures yet.
I am curious where you ordered your carpet from. Most suppliers only carry carpet for 2 doors. I did manage to find mine
at Newark Supply.


Ed,
I thought I would see you at Carlisle this year. I've had the only 57 Desoto there the last 5 years.


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Posted 2015-08-25 10:36 AM (#487931 - in reply to #487904)
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Got the carpet from Factory OEM Parts. Very happy with it. Heel pad is not exactly like original but close.
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Posted 2015-11-28 6:52 PM (#496393 - in reply to #487931)
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Checking how things fit and look. Not all together yet. Seat was recovered some time before I got it. Not horrible... it will do until I get the original materials.



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Posted 2017-04-07 3:19 PM (#537565 - in reply to #482534)
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Plunking away... making some progress. And a couple of before pictures.

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Posted 2017-04-07 6:16 PM (#537575 - in reply to #482534)
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Wow! Great job! Your steering wheel is in amazingly good condition. Who did your dash?
Keep sending the pictures. You have quite a car.
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Posted 2017-04-08 8:31 PM (#537649 - in reply to #482534)
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Rear view mirror back in today




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Posted 2017-07-19 5:45 PM (#544428 - in reply to #482534)
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Finally! I got the dash back together. Took much longer than I had hoped. Partly because I'm picky. But now I have a fresh wiring harness and all the lights, gauges, switches, radio, clock, etc have been gone through. Everything works. Absolutely everything. Even the stupid lighters that will never get used.



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Posted 2017-07-20 6:26 AM (#544453 - in reply to #482534)
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Very nice! I don't think I've ever seen a pushbutton surround like that on the glovebox door. Was that an accessory of some sort?
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Posted 2017-07-20 8:12 AM (#544455 - in reply to #482534)
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While I do have a great bit of paperwork on this car there is no mention of this. It is actually pretty slick and functional. You just hook the side of your index finger under the bottom lip and push the button with your thumb. Gives you total control of the door, both pulling and pushing. You can control the pressure just right as you close the door to get the latch to catch nicely. Neat little add. It must have been fairly specific to this application. You can see in the pictures that it uses the original mounting holes. You just have to drill them out through the face of the door to mount.



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Posted 2017-07-20 8:50 AM (#544456 - in reply to #482534)
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That glovebox lock assembly is used on 59 Dodge. Not sure about 57-8 Dodge.

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Posted 2017-07-20 9:38 AM (#544460 - in reply to #482534)
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Works like a champ on '57 DeSoto's too
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Posted 2017-07-21 10:52 AM (#544530 - in reply to #544460)
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Posted 2017-08-18 2:18 PM (#546482 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave,
I have a couple questions....nice pics of the car by the way....The power seat switch....mine came all apart like that also...I think i'm missing a piece inside that keeps it all snug in the switch...do you have a diagram or pictures of the mechanism? Is there a spacer piece that keeps the black plastic box, the circuit board all snug inside the casting???
Also where did you get you carpet from? I need 1 for my 57 New Yorker....
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Posted 2017-12-05 2:01 PM (#553749 - in reply to #482534)
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Been putting this off for too long. BTW... this was the good side. The other side had a very leaky wheel cylinder. It was really ugly, but I forgot to take a picture.

Not sure how that chunk of shoe came off.

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Posted 2018-02-12 3:44 PM (#557981 - in reply to #482534)
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Restored a set of Texas 57 plates for the sedan.



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Posted 2018-02-13 2:40 AM (#558018 - in reply to #482534)
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It look very good with the time correct numberplates
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Posted 2018-02-13 11:24 AM (#558033 - in reply to #558018)
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Your Desoto is looking great!
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Posted 2018-02-13 7:33 PM (#558060 - in reply to #482534)
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Thanks... making progress, however slight. Plan to drive it till the fall and then get it ready for a re-spray.
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Posted 2018-02-22 3:14 PM (#558626 - in reply to #482534)
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Working the rear glass stainless trim. Top piece had a pretty good dent on the edge. It was in a tough spot to work on, but I got a decent result I think.



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Posted 2018-02-22 4:43 PM (#558634 - in reply to #482534)
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Nice job. How did you manage to do it? I like to use wood objects to pound on these but it isn't always easy to figure out how to do it well.
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Posted 2018-02-22 5:28 PM (#558636 - in reply to #482534)
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I agree! Really nice work. I also would like to know the technique. What did you use?
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Posted 2018-02-22 7:17 PM (#558643 - in reply to #482534)
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Worked from the backside of the trim with the face flush against wood. Worked the spoon north-south and east-west as I struck the back. That got it popped back out pretty nice. Then sand and polish.



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Posted 2018-02-22 7:38 PM (#558645 - in reply to #482534)
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You have great coordination with the camera! I'm not sure if I could have taken that last shot. Thanks for the great explanation.
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Posted 2018-02-24 7:07 AM (#558748 - in reply to #482534)
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Yes, thanks for your pictures. I have some stainless to fix. I at least see I need to buy a spoon. I hope mine comes out like yours!
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Posted 2018-02-24 8:41 AM (#558752 - in reply to #558748)
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Nice work on the trim!
There is some videos on YouTube as well. Check out the car in the back ground.
https://youtu.be/Ft41IG2BAG8
I hope the link works.
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Posted 2018-02-24 11:24 AM (#558757 - in reply to #482534)
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Excellent video. Of course the 57 is red and white.
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Posted 2018-04-11 11:11 AM (#561399 - in reply to #482534)
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There... much better. Now have a matched pair of 57 Dagmars. Thanks Danny.

I have a really nice 58 driver's side for sale or trade now. I'll list it in the parts section.



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Posted 2018-04-11 11:41 AM (#561402 - in reply to #561399)
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Looks like it was born there!
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Posted 2018-08-03 8:31 AM (#567722 - in reply to #561402)
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Today is a little bittersweet. Went for a drive this morning, but I knew it was going to be the last one for a while. Got my painter lined up so now I am going to strip her down. As we all know there's a lot of chrome and stainless to come off. Going with original Sahara Tan and a Mandarin Rust color sweep.

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Posted 2018-08-05 10:22 AM (#567829 - in reply to #482534)
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Should be fun. Are you going to keep the same color scheme or change it up a little?
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Posted 2018-08-05 2:18 PM (#567838 - in reply to #567829)
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Yeah, looking forward to seeing it with fresh paint. The guy doing the paint did my friend's 61 Starliner. Awesome job.

The trim tag on this car says XXX which is Sahara Tan. I have the original dealer sales invoice and it says Color Sweep in the listed options. Not really sure what happened there. I think it was delivered as an all Sahara Tan car. The respray done in the 90's added brown to the sweep and the roof. So all that being said...

I'm going to repaint the roof and body Sahara Tan and then giving it a Mandarin Rust sweep. I like how those colors look together.
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Posted 2018-08-05 4:00 PM (#567842 - in reply to #567839)
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Yes. I'm going off a Dupont chip, but yes Sahara Tan XXX and Mandarin Rust RRR.



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Posted 2018-08-05 8:54 PM (#567862 - in reply to #567842)
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Ok, I know it doesn't really matter but it's got me curious on how this car was painted. I pulled off the ugly aftermarket rocker stainless which I never liked anyway. It's staying off by the way. And the dogleg makes it pretty obvious this car got it's color sweep later. How much later who knows. The dealer invoice clearly states color sweep. The sweep color is definitely not factory. And they painted the roof weird too. Ah well mystery lost in time.



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Posted 2018-08-06 4:33 PM (#567935 - in reply to #567862)
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coming along



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Posted 2018-08-07 4:32 AM (#567962 - in reply to #482534)
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Posted 2018-08-11 5:01 PM (#568246 - in reply to #567962)
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Finally got everything off. Whew. Going to the paint shop on Monday.



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Posted 2018-08-12 7:35 AM (#568287 - in reply to #482534)
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Very nice way of lying out all the parts if you have the room. Car will be great, as you're doing good work!
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Posted 2018-08-21 10:47 AM (#568755 - in reply to #568287)
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Progress...



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Posted 2018-09-06 11:18 AM (#569691 - in reply to #482534)
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Primer... and more sanding



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Posted 2018-09-06 10:08 PM (#569729 - in reply to #482534)
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Posted 2018-09-14 3:55 PM (#570100 - in reply to #482534)
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Door frames and edges so far



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Posted 2018-09-23 3:51 PM (#570630 - in reply to #482534)
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I wasn't certain certain Sahara Tan and Mandarin Rust would look great together. I am really happy with this color combo now!



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Posted 2018-09-27 12:29 PM (#570822 - in reply to #570630)
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Posted 2018-09-27 9:33 PM (#570839 - in reply to #482534)
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Looks great!

I have a '57 Chrysler parts car that colour combination, and it looks sharp, even as a pile of crumpled rust...

I have to say...the way you laid out the parts in your garage, makes it look like the body just vanished, and all the trim just fell to the floor suddenly! :D
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Posted 2018-10-04 2:46 PM (#571150 - in reply to #482534)
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Put the deck lid and hood on today. Getting closer.



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Posted 2018-10-09 11:10 AM (#571382 - in reply to #482534)
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Oh well... too bad it couldn't have been a bright sunny day to show off the new paint. Got the sedan back today. Very pleased with the result. Now I'll start putting it all back together.



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Posted 2018-10-09 11:21 AM (#571383 - in reply to #482534)
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Driving this car will make all of your days bright and sunny! Nice job.
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Posted 2018-10-09 4:17 PM (#571395 - in reply to #482534)
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Yes indeed. Sun came out:)



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Posted 2018-10-10 12:31 AM (#571417 - in reply to #482534)
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Very nice indeed! We're waiting for more pics of your progress - great work!
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Posted 2018-10-10 3:56 AM (#571422 - in reply to #482534)
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Looking GREAT, Dave!
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Posted 2018-10-11 2:38 PM (#571516 - in reply to #482534)
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Baking in the sun



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Posted 2018-10-11 2:55 PM (#571520 - in reply to #482534)
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Good idea. It was really hot when I painted the firewall on my car, but I was surprised how long it took to fully cure. It was about 3-4 weeks before I felt it was ready to wash it without damage to the finish. But I used a polyurethane finish, which does take longer. Are you going to black out the lower fronts of those fenders? Edit: I take it back, I think the DeSoto needs body color there for continuity.

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Posted 2018-10-11 3:16 PM (#571521 - in reply to #482534)
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Yeah that shows a little around the bumper.

I don't normally put my cars out in the Texas sun on purpose. After looking at the picture I posted I went back out and covered up my dash



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Posted 2018-11-14 3:44 PM (#573519 - in reply to #482534)
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I was a little nervous about this procedure. I was very careful and it turned out well.



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Posted 2018-11-14 3:54 PM (#573520 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave, as you know, I think you're doing a great job, and I know you're trying to be correct when you can. What made you decide to paint the mandarin rust on the front fenders? Not trying to be a PITA, just curious, because it wouldn't have been difficult to do the insert thing like the factory did.
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Posted 2018-11-14 4:46 PM (#573527 - in reply to #482534)
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Wow, just that close up of the front fender trim, pure 50s art! I do not know what they were smoking back then, but it must have been good!
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Posted 2018-11-14 4:46 PM (#573528 - in reply to #573520)
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I wouldn't have painted and used the factory fender sheet metal inserts either.. they are a dirt and rust trap. The factory screwed up using those, but I understand the why behind it.
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Posted 2018-11-14 5:12 PM (#573531 - in reply to #573528)
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Agree. The "factory" did it that way because they were cheap and didn't want to spend the time to do the job correctly!

In my view, Dave has properly corrected what the factory did wrong. I bet he will also spend more than two seconds aligning the trim! LOL
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Posted 2018-11-14 5:15 PM (#573532 - in reply to #573520)
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I guess because both my 57 DeSotos came from the factory as solid color cars. The sedan was XXX and the 4dr hdtp LLL. So I don't know what the insert thing is. Don't worry Ed I'm open to any and all suggestions. Especially from you. I might not take them all, but I will certainly consider them.

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Posted 2018-11-15 6:11 AM (#573562 - in reply to #482534)
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Here a picture of these fender inserts



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Posted 2018-11-15 3:20 PM (#573601 - in reply to #573531)
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I bet he will also spend more than two seconds aligning the trim! LOL


haha... you got that right



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Posted 2018-11-15 5:29 PM (#573621 - in reply to #482534)
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Looks really nice. Were your Fireflite emblems that clean or did you have the pits removed and rechromed? If so where, I need to do mine.
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Posted 2018-11-15 6:32 PM (#573624 - in reply to #573621)
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Cleaned and polished. I have been very fortunate with this car. It was in Wichita Falls, Texas all it's life. Hardly any rust at all and the pot metal trim is pretty darn nice. The tail towers are the exception... rough, rough.
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Posted 2018-11-26 4:00 PM (#574163 - in reply to #482534)
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Passenger side trim.



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Posted 2018-11-27 5:18 AM (#574195 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave, the result looks great !!
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Posted 2018-11-29 1:20 PM (#574344 - in reply to #482534)
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Update...



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Posted 2018-11-29 3:05 PM (#574353 - in reply to #482534)
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Yes Dave, the roof in Mandarin Rust looks much better.
Can't wait to see the complete car.
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Posted 2018-11-30 2:12 PM (#574421 - in reply to #482534)
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Posted 2018-11-30 2:23 PM (#574422 - in reply to #482534)
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Posted 2018-11-30 6:08 PM (#574440 - in reply to #574422)
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I had no issue with the paint before, but I do like the "rusty" roof on it now! Great job Dave, it's looking awesome.
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Posted 2018-11-30 8:54 PM (#574447 - in reply to #482534)
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Thanks. Yeah I liked it with the Sahara Tan roof. I like the Mandarin Rust roof better. Looking forward to getting it back together. Still got lots of stainless to polish. Getting there though.
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Posted 2018-11-30 10:47 PM (#574456 - in reply to #573562)
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ToMopar - 2018-11-15 6:11 AM

Here a picture of these fender inserts


The fender inserts allowed the fender shop to produce fenders in the normal lower colours with out concern for the colour of the sweeps. The sweep inserts would be pre-painted in the sweep colours and then mated to the fenders at the appropriate time. They did that with 56 Dodges too with fender caps for the bit of saddle that flowed over the hood and down to the doors, over the read corner of the fenders.

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Posted 2019-01-17 4:56 PM (#576936 - in reply to #482534)
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Progress...



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Posted 2019-01-18 2:27 AM (#576976 - in reply to #482534)
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Dave, like to follow your progress......
......and the mexican upholstery
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Posted 2019-01-18 11:05 AM (#576992 - in reply to #482534)
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Haha I know, right. Mexican blanket today... very close to original... someday. Hopefully soon.



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Posted 2019-01-19 5:28 PM (#577063 - in reply to #576976)
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Dave, like to follow your progress......
......and the mexican upholstery


That was the optional DeSoto "Lineas de rayas" upholstery pattern.
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Posted 2019-01-20 7:28 AM (#577102 - in reply to #576992)
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Not sure why the patterned fabric looks kinda green. It's definitely brown.
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Posted 2019-02-02 9:51 AM (#577723 - in reply to #482534)
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I had to fabricate some moulding clips for the back light bottom stainless piece. Several of mine had rusted. One of the few places I had to deal with any rust on this car. Original clip on right.

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Posted 2019-02-24 2:30 PM (#578593 - in reply to #577723)
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I'm very close to done with the trunk. Cleaned the mat today. The upper left is not cleaned yet and what it looked like before. Cleaned up pretty good for 60+ years of sitting in a trunk.



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Posted 2019-02-24 5:42 PM (#578606 - in reply to #482534)
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You have no idea how lucky you are to have a trunk mat! I have only seen a few and they are not that good. It looks fantastic. Great job!
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Posted 2019-02-25 11:25 AM (#578622 - in reply to #578606)
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Dave, you're doing some outstanding work there! The trunk mat is incredible. Those clips are notorious for rusting; apparently the factory didn't bother to coat or paint them at all. If you run into any more issues with them, many of those clips are available from RJ&L: www.rjlautofasteners.com

Are you taking this car to the Roundup in April?
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Posted 2019-02-25 3:40 PM (#578635 - in reply to #482534)
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Nice to see a 4 door getting this kind of love, not unusual in Sweden but very unusual here, great job!
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Cleaned out the trunk...



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Posted 2019-03-01 5:20 PM (#578747 - in reply to #482534)
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Where are you going to put all that stuff now??
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Posted 2019-04-04 4:38 PM (#580386 - in reply to #482534)
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This is the front seat that was in the car when I got it. I always thought it was a high quality redo on the original frames. My upholstery guy thinks otherwise. He says it's factory. The frame looks quite a bit like my 4dr hdtp one. Hmmm... not sure. The frame has an ashtray socket on the back. But when I got it the material covered it and there was no ashtray. Hmmm...

Anyone recognize what it's from?

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Posted 2019-04-12 3:56 PM (#580780 - in reply to #482534)
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Latest. Still need to adjust the trim a little. Not a whole lot though.

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Posted 2019-04-16 10:28 AM (#580967 - in reply to #482534)
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Rechroming isn't in the budget for this car. So I'll live with what I've got. At least for now anyhow.



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57burb
Posted 2019-04-16 10:50 AM (#580969 - in reply to #580967)
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Absolutely beautiful.
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57desoto
Posted 2019-04-17 5:51 AM (#581008 - in reply to #482534)
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I agree! One of the nicest sedans I know of...
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Posted 2019-04-18 8:25 AM (#581080 - in reply to #482534)
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Yes, your taste in colors is nice
and you are much faster than me
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Posted 2019-04-20 12:50 PM (#581176 - in reply to #482534)
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Well you know how it goes sometimes. One thing leads to another. I figured since I had it apart anyhow that I would go ahead and recolor the dash pad. I wanted to try for something closer to the original dark brown. To my eye the SEM 25213 Carver Coco was nice. I happy with the way it turned out. I used the SEM product. Several (like 5 or 6) coats as it goes on really thin. I also used the prep spray SEM 38343.



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macedon
Posted 2019-04-27 1:01 PM (#581411 - in reply to #482534)
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Tail is back on finally!



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macedon
Posted 2019-05-15 3:02 PM (#582170 - in reply to #482534)
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Ok, this has got to be my least favorite job. Headliner... argh. Now I suppose if I had done 50 or 100 of these it would be a breeze. But since this is only the 3rd one I've ever done I'm sure it's going to be a royal PITA. Yeah I'm whining, I know. Ugh, I just hate this job. I'll post the finished job... might be a few days and several dozen curses from now.



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57burb
Posted 2019-05-16 1:14 PM (#582195 - in reply to #482534)
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I only farmed out four things - the chrome, the seat upholstery, the exhaust, and the headliner - and I'm glad I did!

It's a huge undertaking, but I know you'll do a great job!



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miquelonbrad
Posted 2019-05-17 11:18 AM (#582229 - in reply to #482534)
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LOL! I'll send you mine after you finish with your headliner...it's one job I DO NOT look forward to doing.
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macedon
Posted 2019-05-30 2:16 PM (#582706 - in reply to #482534)
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Just turned in the seats and materials to my upholstery shop. We went over the details and I gave them lots of pictures. It's a great shop with a strong reputation. Hope it all works out. If it does I'll have seats that look exceptionally close to factory. Now I just have to hold my breath for 4 - 6 weeks.
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Posted 2019-05-31 10:35 AM (#582752 - in reply to #482534)
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Until then...you have to drive it, sitting on a five gallon pail. :D
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Posted 2019-07-16 4:59 PM (#584896 - in reply to #582752)
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Yay! Got my seats back. I'm pretty happy. They did a nice job.

Hey Ed, they got the scissors going in the right direction. I was very, very specific about that. I think I know why you see it done the other direction sometimes. It takes more fabric to do it the right way. The scissors pattern is railroad vs. up the roll. I bought 4 yards which was just enough to do the seats and door panels.

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Posted 2019-07-16 5:05 PM (#584898 - in reply to #482534)
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Nice! SMS pulls through for the finish.
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Posted 2019-07-16 5:22 PM (#584900 - in reply to #584898)
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Powerflite - 2019-07-16 4:05 PM

Nice! SMS pulls through for the finish.


I got the material from them quite a while ago. I can't believe it's been almost 18 months. Sheesh, time slips by.

It was a bit of a struggle with them originally shipping me the wrong material. It all got squared away after a bit. Certainly can't complain about the quality of the material though.

The shop here in San Antonio did a nice job.
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Posted 2019-07-16 7:17 PM (#584903 - in reply to #482534)
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amazing!!!!!!!!! car looks like it just rolled off the assembly line!!!!!!!!!
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Posted 2019-07-17 5:50 AM (#584914 - in reply to #482534)
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REALLY nice job with EVERYTHING you've done on this. The car is incredible!
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Posted 2019-07-17 5:14 PM (#584940 - in reply to #584900)
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macedon - 2019-07-16 10:22 PM
I got the material from them quite a while ago. I can't believe it's been almost 18 months. Sheesh, time slips by.


18 months only? Yes sometimes it takes longer as you expect.
Mine seat covers waiting approx 5 yrs until the going to the bench
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