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Old82
Posted 2015-11-24 6:24 AM (#496039)
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Hey all great site!!!

I'm in the works of buying what I believe is a fury. Has the body tag with the 404 and the engine looks right. I haven't checked the numbers on it yet, but I will. He was asking 30k, then 22k, so I offered 13k as long as everything checks out. What do you guys think? It's got the 318 3x2s and another red/white combo over the original color



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Posted 2015-11-24 6:58 AM (#496041 - in reply to #496039)
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I'm no Fury expert, but shouldn't it have power brakes? Looks like a black dash too, which doesn't seem right. Obviously the heater and the (expensive) control valve are missing, hoses are wrong, engine color is wrong etc. but you'll know all that. Seems like a decent car for the money though, I have a lot more than that in my sedan and it's not finished!

How's the headliner and floors?
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Posted 2015-11-24 7:08 AM (#496043 - in reply to #496039)
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It does look like a real 57 fury to me.

If it is, and if you can get it for the amount you offered, it seems like a great deal... And that leaves you room to un-Christinize it, restore it as a Fury again, and increase its value a lot!


I know I would get it if I found a deal like that!

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Posted 2015-11-24 7:33 AM (#496044 - in reply to #496039)
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Looking again at the pics, I realize I know that car.
Here's a couple of pics of that same car before it was "Christinized".



I sent you a personnal message.

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Old82
Posted 2015-11-24 8:04 AM (#496046 - in reply to #496039)
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Wow what a shame to see how nice it was before being painted red and white. Thank you all so far, it's a small world, especially in ours. I'll keep in touch. I'm looking to pick this up on Saturday.
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Posted 2015-11-24 11:15 AM (#496057 - in reply to #496039)
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If you can get it at 13k that would be quite a bargain! I sure would like to pick one up like this for that price.
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Posted 2015-11-24 12:30 PM (#496071 - in reply to #496039)
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Hope you can make a deal, as it looks to be an authentic Fury.

The Fury 318 for '57 will also have FP31 XXXXXXXXX stamped just below the driver's side cylinder head on the block.

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Old82
Posted 2015-11-24 3:11 PM (#496082 - in reply to #496039)
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Thank you all for the help here. I'll be picking it up Saturday and my plans will be to make it more correct as a Christine clone.....
Kidding, it will go back to Fury specs as best as possible. Big M thanks for the engine pointers, I'll keep everyone posted when I get her. I'm sure I can pick up the heater box off lebay as well as power brakes.
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Posted 2015-11-24 4:09 PM (#496084 - in reply to #496082)
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Old82 - 2015-11-24 8:11 PM

Thank you all for the help here. I'll be picking it up Saturday and my plans will be to make it more correct as a Christine clone.....
Kidding, it will go back to Fury specs as best as possible. Big M thanks for the engine pointers, I'll keep everyone posted when I get her. I'm sure I can pick up the heater box off lebay as well as power brakes.


If you buy it, Get with Big M on any parts you may want, as he has a few 57s that he is breaking.. Great guy to do business with..

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Posted 2015-11-24 5:14 PM (#496088 - in reply to #496039)
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darn!!!!! I saw that for sale and saw the price drops! I thought it was too good to be true so didn't do anything. That's what I was after and price to bring over to Aust! Good luck OLD82.
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Posted 2015-11-24 7:25 PM (#496100 - in reply to #496039)
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Well that's a gentleman I just paid the man, he I s a great guy.
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ttotired
Posted 2015-11-25 3:09 AM (#496131 - in reply to #496039)
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Not 3x2 but 2x4, just what you want

Looks to be the correct side saddle air filters (well 1/2 of them), see if he has the rest of them

The 58 had the oval ones you see in the movie

Also looks to have the correct carbs as well

Bit of work needed to get the engine bay correct, but at what yor saying you offered, its a great buy, congratulations

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Posted 2015-11-25 6:10 AM (#496137 - in reply to #496039)
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It is a real Fury, i sold it to the person that Christinized it. The pictures of it before it was painted are in my shop. It had the heater box and power breaks when I sold it? I had the docs from Chrysler Historical on it too. Incidently it sold for more than 13k back then.
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Posted 2015-11-25 11:59 AM (#496161 - in reply to #496039)
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$13K seems like a smoking good deal! Congrats on a great find!
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Posted 2015-11-26 1:11 PM (#496236 - in reply to #496039)
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I hope they didn't hack those air cleaners off like that... Car doesn't look too bad. Just needs to be stripped down and redone correctly.

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Posted 2015-11-26 3:01 PM (#496242 - in reply to #496039)
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I still cry about the 58 Fury that was pulled out of the original owners garage (a lady) in the early 90s here in SLC. 30 k original miles. It was near perfect.
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Posted 2015-11-26 8:41 PM (#496255 - in reply to #496039)
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13k is a steal, guy must have been desperate.
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Posted 2015-12-29 5:02 PM (#499407 - in reply to #496100)
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Old82 - 2015-11-25 12:25 AM

Well that's a gentleman I just paid the man, he I s a great guy.


I see you are now Selling it on IAN... Listed on Ebay ..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plymouth-Fury-/172045264627?forcerrptr=true...

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Posted 2015-12-29 6:26 PM (#499412 - in reply to #499407)
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RESERVE got MET at $22k...

Onto a nice profit, Interesting to see what it finishes at
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Posted 2015-12-29 7:15 PM (#499420 - in reply to #496039)
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darn Flippers.
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Posted 2015-12-29 9:54 PM (#499436 - in reply to #496039)
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At the purchase price (which is implied to be $13K, but not confirmed), hard not to flip.

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BigBlockMopar
Posted 2015-12-30 5:51 AM (#499455 - in reply to #496039)
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I almost feel sorry for clicking on this topic that turned sour.
I still see a basicly old weathered car (with mostlikely matching maintainance) on which someone barfed some dull red paint on.
Sad to see greed took control and it got flipped into a way higher price level without anything been done to the car in the mean time, except for seperatly selling some trunk items to improve profits.

Oh well, congrats on pulling it off I guess.
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Posted 2015-12-30 6:36 PM (#499507 - in reply to #496039)
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How can you say greed took over?

Taking what he has said at face value, he has moved and is losing storage

Assuming he got the car cheap at $13000 and assuming the reserve was around that figure, good luck to him, but even if the reserve was $22000 and someone is/was willing to pay that, then good on him too

Just because the bid amount is at $22000 doesnt mean it was the reserve, it may be thats what the previous bidders max bid was

I tried to look at the bids, but it wouldnt let me

I dont think that if someone lands a bargain, that they must pass it on if they (for whatever reason) sell it

I guess I am a flipper, because in my business I buy things at a cheaper price than I sell it for, sometimes within 5 minits of my purchase time

Good luck to him and I hope both buyer and seller are happy

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Posted 2015-12-30 6:46 PM (#499513 - in reply to #499507)
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ttotired - 2015-12-30 11:36 PM

Just because the bid amount is at $22000 doesnt mean it was the reserve, it may be thats what the previous bidders max bid was

I tried to look at the bids, but it wouldnt let me



The Reserve WAS $22k Michael,

As i checked at the time and the 2nd bid was $7500, The 3rd Bid jumped to $22k and showed Reserve Met.. The 4th and 5th bids were many hrs later..

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Posted 2015-12-30 7:09 PM (#499516 - in reply to #496039)
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Thats ok

Original seller was after more than that to start with

With bids like that, I would say that they would have to be genuine bids because the seller is now liable for the fees on the bid amount (If I have it right?), so it will sell for what someones willing to pay for it

I think it will be between $25,000 to $30,000, it looks pretty good in the ebay pictures

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Posted 2015-12-30 11:58 PM (#499529 - in reply to #496039)
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I hope the new owner will return this car to a 1957 Fury .The whole Christine thing is way to overdone ,
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Posted 2015-12-31 6:24 AM (#499540 - in reply to #499507)
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ttotired - 2015-12-30 12:36 PM

How can you say greed took over?


When I see someone here act 'interested', on a hobbyist forum like this and buy a car, but then goes putting it on Ebay within a month for double the amount, it feels like that person went for the gold instead to me.
(To be honest, I thought at first the car was bought 24 December and put up for sale again just 5 days later, but I noticed later this topic was started on the 24 of November.)
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Posted 2015-12-31 11:04 AM (#499559 - in reply to #499540)
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Haybag - 2015-11-25 5:10 AM

It is a real Fury, i sold it to the person that Christinized it. The pictures of it before it was painted are in my shop. It had the heater box and power breaks when I sold it? I had the docs from Chrysler Historical on it too. Incidently it sold for more than 13k back then.


So... someone out there bought a solid old Fury for the right money, had it Earl Scheib'd red, stuck a dorky windshield sticker on it, riveted diamond plate over the heater box, messed up the brakes, and then sold it for a loss to someone that is going to make a small fortune off of it.

WOW.
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Posted 2015-12-31 2:03 PM (#499587 - in reply to #496039)
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listen - the guys near me on the s shore in hingham so he bought it for 13k

im sure its a genuine fury... not many left... so he or someone before

christined it he got it to a running driving everyday car he prob put a lot

into it !itll have to be stripped down again and painted white.... it has the orig

seat and door panels and side trim.... he enjoyed it now its time to "flip" it...

dont pick him apart man! get off his back!

every time theres a nice fwd look car on here purists pick at this little thing

that little thing.... there wont be many of fwd look cars left in 5 10 years..

drive them and enjoy them... geez!
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Old82
Posted 2015-12-31 2:42 PM (#499590 - in reply to #496039)
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For those of you who gave me benefit of the doubt, thank you. I just moved to Maine, and this car is now in the snow. Allot can happen in 30 days. I registered it and paid the $1400 in taxes to do it. If I were after a quick buck I would have just flipped it. I will get another, but it's not realistic right now.
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Posted 2015-12-31 4:18 PM (#499595 - in reply to #499590)
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Old82 - 2015-12-31 2:42 PM

For those of you who gave me benefit of the doubt, thank you. I just moved to Maine, and this car is now in the snow. Allot can happen in 30 days. I registered it and paid the $1400 in taxes to do it. If I were after a quick buck I would have just flipped it. I will get another, but it's not realistic right now.



I, for one, know a lot can happen in a short time! Good luck with your sale and with the changes in your life! There will be another nice old car along the way. I wish I had the money to get your Fury!
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Posted 2015-12-31 4:24 PM (#499596 - in reply to #496039)
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have fun driving it man thats what this hobby is all about.. you moved from

hingham to maine.... snow... find a garage or put a car cover on it... watch

out for salt on the roads.... when you do sell i hope you get a good price...

whether you have it painted white is up to you... itll cost some bucks to do

it right... happy fwd looking.....

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Posted 2016-01-01 6:55 PM (#499689 - in reply to #496039)
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Hi Guys, I see you have a really great forum here! I have been interested in this Fury on ebay and that is how I found your forum. Pretty amazing how this hole story panned out above.. I dont have much knowledge on these Plymouth Fury's so I was curious what your thoughts are on this one that is for sale . It appears the bidding on this car is going to go higher and my first thought is what if a buyer ends up paying say $30,000 for this car, should they (if they had the money of course) just purchase the other one on ebay for another $20-25,000 that is all finished, low miles ect. What kind of money would you put into this one? I'm thinking at 20-$25,000 decent price but at $30,000 maybe going overboard what do you think? Got to hand it to Old42 he really hit a home run on this one what a deal.
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Posted 2016-01-01 8:07 PM (#499698 - in reply to #496039)
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Welcome and good luck

Genuine 57/58 fury's are worth good money and the seller did certainly score well with it

I doubt you would find another at that price that wasnt totally rusted out or complete

It is hard to gauge restoration value without knowing what your plans and expectations would be for the car and being able to physically see the car to see the standard of any previously done repairs (this also goes the same for the "completed restoration cars"

$20,000 can buy a lot of stuff or next to none (think chrome, steering wheel restoration, professional paint and panel, interior ect), but the more you can do yourself, the cheaper it can get and if driver quality chrome is ok, then also cheaper right down to just fixing whats broken and driving it

To me, old car restoration is done as a hobby and not so much as an investment, so it really comes down to you, if you think its worth it and its going to bring a smile to your face when its in your driveway, its worth whatever your willing to pay, if your doing it as an investment, I wouldnt buy it without seeing it and pricing out and sourcing the obvious things that need to be done

To restore a car as an investment, its not a car, its a collection of components and condition of those components and replacement costs against projected resale value determine a good or bad investment

To restore a car for a hobby or the love of the car is for the roller coaster ride of good and bad that happens as you progress from what it is now to what you want it to be in the end

Did that help

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Posted 2016-01-01 10:43 PM (#499708 - in reply to #499590)
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Old82 - 2015-12-31 1:42 PM

For those of you who gave me benefit of the doubt, thank you. I just moved to Maine, and this car is now in the snow. Allot can happen in 30 days. I registered it and paid the $1400 in taxes to do it. If I were after a quick buck I would have just flipped it. I will get another, but it's not realistic right now.


I usually don't care if people flip cars, That's how the world works, buy low sell high. It seems like people don't have a problem paying a mark-up to a dealer or a retailer, but if a regular guy tries to make a buck, watch out! 99% of everything anybody has ever bought from their clothes to their houses has had a mark-up. But when you try to explain it as "life changes" and your 2 other Ebay auctions are way overpriced items, it's hard to believe you are just having "life changes". $550 for 1 piece of sportone insert and $300 for stone guards, and a minimal description on a 58 year old car. Just admit you're wanting to make a buck.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/172045211183?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&s...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plymouth-Fury-/172045264627?forcerrptr=true...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1957-Plymouth-Fury-Sport-Tone-Trim-/1720452...




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Posted 2016-01-01 11:02 PM (#499709 - in reply to #496039)
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Thanks Mick, I'm not looking for a investment but just dont want to make a purchase that after I do all the fun work to it ..its worth less than what I got into it! I have been there before a couple time in the past 25 years so thats my main concern that I dont get myself in that position again.
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Posted 2016-01-01 11:53 PM (#499710 - in reply to #496039)
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The original photos of the car look like a very good starting point for a 1957 Fury restoration .The correct 1957 side trim would be the hardest part to find in my opinion .The price the seller bought it for shouldn't be a deciding factor for someone looking for a original Fury .It would be a shame however not to return this to a real 57 Fury .It seems that a Buyer could find a 58 Belvedere and build a Christine clone if that is what they want .Not to many real Furys come up for sale .
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Posted 2016-01-05 7:18 AM (#500034 - in reply to #496039)
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The seller has sold quite a few cars in the last year. Camaro's, firebird, charger, couple of other chevs and in the last 6 months a Corvette. Not to mention all the car parts for mustangs etc.... Have a look at the feedback as a seller and I think that tells the whole story.. Even though it's his choice to make such a profit if bought for 13k, it's a shame that someone with a passion didn't get it for that price.
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You are absolutely correct it would be nice if a person with real passion found this car first .I have been lucky enough to be the first person to find something and get the Deal .But lately with eEbay and all the other online services that is getting very hard to do .Especilly with a car like that with people Destroying a Real Fury ,for the sake of another Christine Clone .
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Posted 2016-01-05 5:49 PM (#500083 - in reply to #496039)
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Well it went for a tad over $28000, I could be so lucky

Flipper or not, well done

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Posted 2016-01-11 5:58 AM (#500664 - in reply to #496039)
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Posted 2016-01-11 5:35 PM (#500743 - in reply to #496039)
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Interesting to see where it gets to this time

Normally, they never go as high again

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Posted 2016-01-11 5:50 PM (#500748 - in reply to #496039)
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There was a post here by Beefemalone earlier, and it seems it has now been deleted. I will explain why, because something just did not seem right with the bid cancellations and the "buyer" and the post here from earlier.
I was almost taken for a ride from Dan Dale and his father who own Jackson Car Lease located in Jackson Mississippi. They have multiple ebay accounts such as Hippietoys (who won my last auction) Beefmalone (who was the next bidder under Hippietoys) and also TSS-MS, which was submitting questions in interest to obtain the car. These were all the same person and family. This is a scheme and from what I can tell in my short research is that the method is to use their accounts to ruin the auction multiple times over to exhaust the buyer to sell offline for much less.
Happie toys (who won the car) is registered to William Anderson. William Andersons address is where Dan Dale's suspended law license is registered to. The distance between William Anderson and the "family business" is 1.6 miles according to google maps. I spoke to Dan Dale and he claims he does not know Will Anderson although his address is 1.6 miles away, and his law license is there. It seems, after reviewing the reviews for this family business that this process is how they make their living. Happie toys left me a negative feedback, which after I told tyhem what I researched they were happy to remove it. Dan says his father (happietoys) wanted to suprise them, and he did not know that happietoys was his fathers account. I asked who the heck Will Anderson is since its his fathers account and thats not his dads name. He had no answer, and its obvious why. I have referred this to the Mississippi Atty General if I did not get that feedback removed. Now that the post is deleted (dont worry Dan, I have a screenshot) is there any question of guilt? The post said he spoke to the "winning bidder" and I could not provide a title which is a lie. But when I spoke to his he said his father just told him he bid on the car for it to be a surprise??
I know I did well with the car, but I really dont deserve being slandered and made into a liar, so If there are any others here that were involved, kindly stop. Thank you.

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Posted 2016-01-11 6:26 PM (#500752 - in reply to #496039)
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I did see that post when it was still online. Thanks for clearing that up, Olds82. Too bad you have to deal with these kinds of characters. Good luck with the sale!
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soiouz - 2016-01-11 11:26 PM

I did see that post when it was still online. Thanks for clearing that up, Olds82. Too bad you have to deal with these kinds of characters. Good luck with the sale!


Well the Member in question on that post had 2 posts before the Delete, Profile now shows 1 post only..

You Decide... ????? But sure we all come to the same conclusion as Olds82 explained

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matte
Posted 2016-01-12 1:04 AM (#500804 - in reply to #496039)
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Yes the are a lot of dogs out there who like to stuff things up for other people. Fake bidding is fraudulent and I wish ebay would do more... On a different note, if the 2nd part of beefmalone's post is true, to be quite honest I feel sorry for the original seller. Yes it's up to him how much he sold it for but I've sold vehicles below value to help people out.... I would rather help someone out than screw them over...
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beefmalone
Posted 2016-01-13 1:37 AM (#500888 - in reply to #496039)
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Slandered? Hardly. I deleted the post after you called me crying about it as a favor, but I'll repost if you wish.

You told the original seller, whom you jewed down to $13k, that this was your dream car, played the veteran card, would never sell, etc. so he sold it to you. OF course, after registering it you immediately put it on ebay where I bid on it not realizing where I had seen the car before. Later my father, who knows how much I've been wanting one, ended up winning it for me thinking he was doing me a favor. He emailed you several times requesting a copy of the title which for whatever reason you could not provide. You acted like this was some type of unusual request when in fact I've yet to know of a bank that will lend money on a vehicle without seeing the title first. When you couldn't/wouldn't provide a copy of the title he gave up assuming it was some kind of scam.

Any fool can research a phone number or name on the internet, Ian Emmott. I use this name everywhere so it's no big secret since I have nothing to hide. Googling my info should be simple for someone who spent nearly 5 years in the Coast Guard and has worked at a large insurer like Quincy Mutual Group. Was there a point you were trying to make?

I have all the messages where you stalled and came up with excuses for not providing a copy of the title.

I've spoken on the phone with the previous owner and have text messages from him detailing the BS you told him when you bought the car.

Of course, now that you are selling it you have a new story about how you are in a bind for money...yet just a few weeks ago you had the wherewithal to buy it. I guess your story is liable to change to suit your purposes. When you were trying to buy it cheap it was your dream car. Now that you're selling it I guess you're in the poorhouse. It's your car so you can sell it for whatever you wish, but don't try to turn me into the bad guy here.
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Posted 2016-01-13 6:05 AM (#500899 - in reply to #496039)
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Nice story Dan, but some day what you do to people for a "living" will catch up with you. I've done my part by referring what I found to eBay Fraud, Mississippi Atty General, Jackson Police. Will they do anything? Probably not but it's one more on you. You may want to make a new cache of fictitious accounts.
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Posted 2016-01-13 6:23 AM (#500900 - in reply to #496039)
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yeah if your so desperate to sell because your "out of space" etc etc.. why not sell it for 17? why demand 22?

this stinks of lies and more lies trying to appease your potential customer base. Your a flipper, I don't care. You've priced your ebay auctions too high but again, I don't care either.

It's a free country, your trying your hand at flipping. Every used car guy is doing the same so I don't care. Lying about it just means your a typical used car guy.
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Posted 2016-01-13 7:24 AM (#500908 - in reply to #496039)
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Thanks Dan I completely forgot it's a free country. Let my quit my job and create fake eBay acounts, and sell rv's that have blown head gaskets and leak. And when I get caught with all my fraud, I can say it's ok because we live a free country.
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Posted 2016-01-13 11:42 AM (#500925 - in reply to #496039)
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I'm not the one bulls**tting people here. Report all you want. If your story about needing money was legit then you wouldn't have a $22k reserve on the car. Your are just mad now because you got called out on your BS. You should be ashamed to have pulled the vet card to get that car bought knowing you were going to flip it.
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Posted 2016-01-13 11:52 AM (#500926 - in reply to #500888)
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Any fool can research a phone number or name on the internet, Ian Emmott. I use this name everywhere so it's no big secret since I have nothing to hide.


So you claim that you're name is Ian Emmott... Then why does your profile on this site say that your name is Dan Dale?


Furthermore, I believe the bigger issue is that you wanted to finance this car and had to get a LOAN from your bank to pay for it. So, for all we know, the seller simply didn't want to deal with the typical financing hassles, and nullified the deal.

As for the hatred being shown towards an alleged "flipper", this is a free-country, where someone can do whatever they want with their property! If he wants to sell the car, burn it to the ground, or give away to a homeless child; that's his decision!

Geez... The amount of animosity on this thread is tangible.
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beefmalone
Posted 2016-01-13 12:13 PM (#500930 - in reply to #496039)
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I was saying that his name is Ian and that I use this screen name everywhere, genius. (see, that was me SARCASTICALLY referring to you. punctuation is your friend).

Nope, wasn't going to be financed just put on floorplan which requires a copy of the title first. NO BANK EVER will loan money on a car without seeing the title. That issue is moot anyway.

I don't have a problem with flipping. I do have a problem with someone lying and using their status as a vet to perpetuate that lie in order to buy something to flip knowing the seller wouldn't have sold him the car had he known his true intentions.
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Posted 2016-01-13 12:25 PM (#500931 - in reply to #500930)
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Posted 2016-01-13 12:30 PM (#500933 - in reply to #496039)
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The part I don't get is why would anyone sell a car at WAY under market value to a stranger. A sob story might knock a few hundred off, but we are talking over $10K. Whether the current seller's original intent was to flip or not is irrelevant. He wants to sell it now and why wouldn't he want full market value?
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Posted 2016-01-13 12:53 PM (#500936 - in reply to #500931)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2016-01-13 12:25 PM I am so angry now that I am going to go beat my dog.

 

 





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Posted 2016-01-13 12:54 PM (#500937 - in reply to #500933)
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Swept57 - 2016-01-13 11:30 AM

The part I don't get is why would anyone sell a car at WAY under market value to a stranger. A sob story might knock a few hundred off, but we are talking over $10K. Whether the current seller's original intent was to flip or not is irrelevant. He wants to sell it now and why wouldn't he want full market value?


The guy traded a Trans Am for it and didn't realize what the market value really was on the car. He was just going by how much he had in the T/A and this buyer's (now seller's) reassurances.
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Posted 2016-01-13 1:33 PM (#500941 - in reply to #500931)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2016-01-13 12:25 PM

I am so angry now that I am going to go beat my dog.



I'd like to see a picture of your dog. Is it pure breed or not 100% OEM?
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Posted 2016-01-13 1:49 PM (#500943 - in reply to #500941)
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soiouz - 2016-01-13 12:33 PM

Doctor DeSoto - 2016-01-13 12:25 PM

I am so angry now that I am going to go beat my dog.



I'd like to see a picture of your dog. Is it pure breed or not 100% OEM?


someone beat him to it

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Posted 2016-01-13 2:22 PM (#500950 - in reply to #496039)
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Sour. Grapes.

Buyer and Seller beware and know the value of your product. It is a "great deal" if you or I get it, but this guy is a bad guy and manipulative cause he struck a deal.

Life goes on. Unfortunately, there are enough Christine clones to go around.....:( Go find another.
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Posted 2016-01-13 3:23 PM (#500957 - in reply to #496039)
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I think we need a group hug......

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Posted 2016-01-13 8:44 PM (#500995 - in reply to #496039)
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I think the animosity is because of how this car was flipped and the story behind it.

Free country gets used quite a lot when people want to do whatever they please or to win an argument. There is a lot more in those two words than just saying them.

Some people are very persuasive when bartering down a price, especially if they do it often(Which I'm guessing if you buy and sell cars often one would be quite good at it). Who knows, the original seller might of been desperate for money or had to sell fast because his predicament might of "genuinely" changed and couldn't sit back and wait..Beefmalone, was the original sellers name Eric?

Anyway who is wrong and who is right is past now.


BTW- The old girl clearly has more body filler in it then in the eyebrow...

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Posted 2016-01-13 9:16 PM (#501002 - in reply to #500997)
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HAHAHAHA priceless!!! I actually spat my drink out because I cracked up when I saw the Hoff.

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Aaawwww! Very cute.
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Posted 2016-01-14 6:28 AM (#501046 - in reply to #496039)
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Posted 2016-01-14 7:23 AM (#501054 - in reply to #496039)
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Posted 2016-01-14 9:13 AM (#501059 - in reply to #496039)
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ok enough! enough! fun is over! stop it! i think the guy is on the level and

doing whatever he needs to do to get his price..... scams on ebay all the time

part of life on there if he cant sell it just drive it and have fun .... or maybe

so sick of the red paint hell burn it and collect the insurance! i dont care!

i dont give a f**k! stop it!
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Posted 2016-01-14 10:08 AM (#501064 - in reply to #496039)
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Posted 2016-01-14 8:50 PM (#501133 - in reply to #500995)
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matte - 2016-01-13 7:44 PM

I think the animosity is because of how this car was flipped and the story behind it.

Free country gets used quite a lot when people want to do whatever they please or to win an argument. There is a lot more in those two words than just saying them.

Some people are very persuasive when bartering down a price, especially if they do it often(Which I'm guessing if you buy and sell cars often one would be quite good at it). Who knows, the original seller might of been desperate for money or had to sell fast because his predicament might of "genuinely" changed and couldn't sit back and wait..Beefmalone, was the original sellers name Eric?

Anyway who is wrong and who is right is past now.


BTW- The old girl clearly has more body filler in it then in the eyebrow...


I think Eric is the one that traded it to the guy for a Trans Am.
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Posted 2016-01-14 10:07 PM (#501142 - in reply to #501133)
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beefmalone - 2016-01-14 8:50 PM

matte - 2016-01-13 7:44 PM

I think the animosity is because of how this car was flipped and the story behind it.

Free country gets used quite a lot when people want to do whatever they please or to win an argument. There is a lot more in those two words than just saying them.

Some people are very persuasive when bartering down a price, especially if they do it often(Which I'm guessing if you buy and sell cars often one would be quite good at it). Who knows, the original seller might of been desperate for money or had to sell fast because his predicament might of "genuinely" changed and couldn't sit back and wait..Beefmalone, was the original sellers name Eric?

Anyway who is wrong and who is right is past now.


BTW- The old girl clearly has more body filler in it then in the eyebrow...


I think Eric is the one that traded it to the guy for a Trans Am.


Yep you are right, I just checked. So in Sept 2015 Eric swapped it for a 79 T/A so then the next seller had it for a couple of months before selling it to the current owner.. I think that's how it goes...
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Posted 2016-01-15 1:23 AM (#501154 - in reply to #500997)
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Posted 2016-01-17 12:04 AM (#501351 - in reply to #496039)
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This is like a sop opera ..so does olds have the title?? You guys know these cars much better than I do and now we have a few more /better pictures on the ebay listing, so what would it take to fix up this one? $$
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Posted 2016-01-17 5:57 PM (#501451 - in reply to #496039)
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Depends on your standards and what you want to do with it

Car apparently runs and drives now, so cost nothing to leave it, if you want to make a nicer christine out of it, it looks to need repainting and some panel work, if you want to restore it, you pull it apart and start again, and thats where the big $$$$ come

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Posted 2016-01-18 7:12 PM (#501586 - in reply to #496039)
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I hope we all can be friends again!

After all this drama on eBay any chance of selling it without feeling extremely bitter is slim to none at this point. So, the old girl will sit at Moms until I get her to the shop when I go home to Massachusetts.

This post sure got interesting....
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Posted 2016-01-21 2:27 AM (#501851 - in reply to #496039)
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So you wouldn't of sold it even if your reserve was met because of feeling bitter or it's because the reserve wasn't met and now wait until the stigma that has erupted settles down? I don't know what it costs to register a car in that area of the US but looks like even if you sold it for what the bid went to, you still would have made a good profit by not doing much.

It's a shame you couldn't at least of got that red paint off that Fury....

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Posted 2016-02-08 9:32 PM (#503640 - in reply to #496039)
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Everybody probably already knows this by now, but beefmalone and Old82 are both the same member. I am just enjoying readying back on this post to see how he is talking to himself in the same topic, lol
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Posted 2016-02-09 5:23 AM (#503652 - in reply to #496039)
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Is that like virtual schizophrenia??

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Posted 2016-02-09 9:49 AM (#503663 - in reply to #496039)
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All I can say after I read the whole topic is that I regret that such things happen in the old car hobby and spoil the pleasure and the good emotions with the nice old cars.
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Posted 2016-02-09 5:57 PM (#503702 - in reply to #496039)
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Unfortunately not everybody is in it for fun and pleasure ,it's all about the $$$$$$$$$,That is Sad .
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Posted 2016-02-10 1:17 AM (#503734 - in reply to #503640)
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Joker - 2016-02-08 8:32 PM

Everybody probably already knows this by now, but beefmalone and Old82 are both the same member. I am just enjoying readying back on this post to see how he is talking to himself in the same topic, lol


What are you? Some kind of moron?
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Posted 2016-02-10 5:01 AM (#503746 - in reply to #496039)
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Lol, a simple web analytics search that any college freshman with a smartphone can do in 10 seconds, shows that both beefmalone and Olds82 have the same ISP address originating near Boston, Massachusetts. I am sure the managers & moderators of this site are also privy to the analytics of the web traffic here even if the average tech-savvy person is not, and know I am correct as well.

Oh, eh eh he, ah haaaaaa, I am not the real batman
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Posted 2016-02-10 9:13 AM (#503764 - in reply to #496039)
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This thread just keeps getting weirder...
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Posted 2016-02-11 5:56 PM (#503912 - in reply to #503746)
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Joker - 2016-02-10 4:01 AM

Lol, a simple web analytics search that any college freshman with a smartphone can do in 10 seconds, shows that both beefmalone and Olds82 have the same ISP address originating near Boston, Massachusetts. I am sure the managers & moderators of this site are also privy to the analytics of the web traffic here even if the average tech-savvy person is not, and know I am correct as well.

Oh, eh eh he, ah haaaaaa, I am not the real batman


Try again, smart guy. I'm in Mississippi. How much do you care to wager on your "expertise?"

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Posted 2016-02-11 7:34 PM (#503922 - in reply to #496039)
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I would personally bet the title to my 57 that we are not the same.

This thread needs to die already, I'm at peace with everything and am happy with the car.

In a strange twist of irony, im happy it worked out like this.
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Posted 2016-02-12 4:45 AM (#503943 - in reply to #496039)
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Good thing they did not post consecutive responses at approximately the same time, otherwise the truth of them being the same member would be more obvious, lolllllllllllllllllllllll. When this happens, it takes some time to talk to yourself and figure out the best comeback. If beefmalone bets against Olds82 and they both lose, who ends up with car?, I guess you have to crush it.

And I thought my jokes were bad, but I love virtual schizophrenia
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Posted 2016-02-12 11:46 AM (#503959 - in reply to #496039)
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Joker - 2016-02-12 3:45 AM

Good thing they did not post consecutive responses at approximately the same time, otherwise the truth of them being the same member would be more obvious, lolllllllllllllllllllllll. When this happens, it takes some time to talk to yourself and figure out the best comeback. If beefmalone bets against Olds82 and they both lose, who ends up with car?, I guess you have to crush it.

And I thought my jokes were bad, but I love virtual schizophrenia


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Posted 2016-02-12 4:04 PM (#503979 - in reply to #496039)
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Posted 2016-02-12 7:16 PM (#503985 - in reply to #496039)
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Oh no, a screengrab of a Mississippi license with the name cut off!!!!! I messed with world famous dead-beat Ebay bidder beefmalone, what am I going to do now? So we have a fraudulent Ebay bidder, beefmalone, kicked off of bidding on this 1957 Fury and reported to multiple authorities in his jurisdiction by the seller Olds82, then subsequently beefmalone is posting comments on this thread supporting Olds82's provenance of this same car and separately supporting Olds82's contention of a legitimate Ebay auction. Do you think all of us Mopar and Plymouth enthusiasts are hillbillies with no common sense?

This 1957 Fury has bondo, lead, homemade amateur patch panels, and pinholes in every single major body panel on this car, and thus Olds82 took a bath when he bought it for 13K; now he wants to take advantage of a novice enthusiast with schill bidding on Ebay, which was already apparent to most of the members here, and which I exposed for new members looking to buy a car without being taken advantage of. Olds82 is deceiving even in the first sentence of his first post on this thread, "Hey all great site!!!", as if he just found this site and has never been on it before, when in reality, he has been on here for years under multiple different user-names. I have proof of my webanalytics which shows beefmalone and Olds82 are the same member, and the moderators here also view the webtraffic and would have censored my posts if their data showed that I am incorrect.

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Posted 2016-02-12 8:16 PM (#503987 - in reply to #496039)
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It's pretty simple. BeefMalone just needs to submit a sample of him saying 'park the car'. If 'car' has two or more syllables, he's from Mississippi. If he says 'Pahk the Cah' then he's from Boston.
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Posted 2016-02-12 9:34 PM (#503988 - in reply to #503985)
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Joker - 2016-02-12 6:16 PM

Oh no, a screengrab of a Mississippi license with the name cut off!!!!!


A picture of me holding my license up in front of this idiotic thread! If that isn't proof enough then I don't know what else could be. I think the moderators are just enjoying the show you are putting on of how to make a fool of yourself.

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Joker
Posted 2016-02-12 10:47 PM (#503994 - in reply to #496039)
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You have proved nothing, all your picture shows is a license with no identifying information for the license itself or whom is holding the license. You are fraudulent scam schill bidder trying to take advantage of other people. No matter what you say, most of the members here realized this before I ever commented on it.

Why Soooo Serious?
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ttotired
Posted 2016-02-13 6:20 PM (#504066 - in reply to #496039)
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Kicking back, eating popcorn, watching the show

Could be worth kicking this into the sewer now

Looks like its gone past the point of a car for sale?

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beefmalone
Posted 2016-02-13 7:14 PM (#504070 - in reply to #503994)
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Joker - 2016-02-12 9:47 PM

You have proved nothing, all your picture shows is a license with no identifying information for the license itself or whom is holding the license. You are fraudulent scam schill bidder trying to take advantage of other people. No matter what you say, most of the members here realized this before I ever commented on it.

Why Soooo Serious?


So you think I got someone in Mississippi to take a pic of their license in front of my own create post screen? LOL
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Joker
Posted 2016-02-13 8:35 PM (#504077 - in reply to #504066)
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ttotired - 2016-02-13 6:20 PM

Kicking back, eating popcorn, watching the show

Could be worth kicking this into the sewer now

Looks like its gone past the point of a car for sale?



This one was in the sewer since before this thread started, due to how bad of condition this car is in. You are better off going to the deli at your supermarket if you want swiss cheese, and swiss cheese actually has better lines and less holes compared to this car.
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Swept57
Posted 2016-02-13 9:12 PM (#504085 - in reply to #496039)
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I suggest that olds82, beefmalone, and joker are all the same person. I think he/they are conducting a social experiment. ??
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Posted 2016-02-14 12:35 PM (#504125 - in reply to #496039)
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I think this thread needs to die already....
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beefmalone
Posted 2016-02-14 5:33 PM (#504135 - in reply to #496039)
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I agree



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bigears
Posted 2016-05-13 1:43 AM (#511458 - in reply to #496039)
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.................... Great entertainment but I'd rather have a 60 Dodge  .............. 

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Posted 2016-05-13 4:41 AM (#511462 - in reply to #496039)
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seems this thread is about half a mile toooooo long---------------------------------------------------------later
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mstrug
Posted 2016-05-22 6:28 PM (#512180 - in reply to #496039)
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Oh Brother, he won't stop...

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Plymouth-Fury-coupe-/172216139037?forcerrpt...
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beefmalone
Posted 2016-05-23 9:03 PM (#512260 - in reply to #496039)
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Hopefully the buyer will find this forum before the sale is consummated.
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