dealership pics and info - FL era
RDP
Posted 2018-03-31 11:05 AM (#560824)
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Many of us are looking for information and photos from our dealer station.
So here is a good place to show your collections.





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Posted 2018-03-31 11:16 AM (#560827 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-03-31 11:22 AM (#560828 - in reply to #560824)
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Art Frost, Culver City, CA




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Posted 2018-03-31 11:27 AM (#560829 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-03-31 10:32 PM (#560860 - in reply to #560824)
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Rare of the rare .... 57 Firedome convertible, fitted with dog dish hubcaps
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Posted 2018-04-02 4:33 PM (#560984 - in reply to #560824)
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Amazing DeSoto photos! Talk about swag... they had everything and anything hanging in the dealership.
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Posted 2018-04-02 7:27 PM (#561004 - in reply to #560824)
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WOW, these are so cool. I'd love to find some of those 57 desoto spinner hanger pieces. I wish more stuff survived from these dealerships!!! Would help me with my museum.
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Posted 2018-04-02 11:44 PM (#561022 - in reply to #561004)
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Mike ~

Why not make them new ? This kind of thing is still made all the time.
Get some decent photos and find the advertising people to make it happen.
For all the really difficult things people ask me to make out of really hard
to work with materials, working with cardboard and string would be a piece
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Posted 2018-04-02 11:47 PM (#561023 - in reply to #561022)
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Did anyone else notice the earliest documented automotive cup holder in history ?

Just look at the fin-tip mounted cup holder on the driver's side fin of the Firedome
convertible above. I almost missed it !
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Posted 2018-04-03 10:38 AM (#561040 - in reply to #560824)
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I'm doing what I can to have things original if possible. If that search turns fruitless, then I'll consider a remake
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Posted 2018-04-03 2:16 PM (#561054 - in reply to #561023)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2018-04-02 8:47 PM

Did anyone else notice the earliest documented automotive cup holder in history ?

Just look at the fin-tip mounted cup holder on the driver's side fin of the Firedome
convertible above. I almost missed it !


I didn't notice the cupholder, I was preoccupied by the kid about to pick his nose for the camera, the stationary exhale of cigarette smoke, and the '55 DeSoto hood ornament!
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Posted 2018-04-06 11:40 AM (#561218 - in reply to #560828)
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Art Frost Pictures as in CinemaScope . . . and in this thread a pleasure to see no rust at all! Thanks RDP.  :)



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Posted 2018-04-06 1:51 PM (#561224 - in reply to #560824)
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Notice that in the pic of the '57 DeS sedan with the little girl holding a brochure and looking in the front passenger door you can see the terrible sloppy fit of the rear door and trim... that was not at all unusual for '57! '58 was better and '59 much better for panel and trim fitment.
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Posted 2018-04-06 4:03 PM (#561226 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks for posting these great pictures!
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Posted 2018-04-07 3:53 AM (#561242 - in reply to #560824)
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. . .  and here a 1957 DESOTO Adventurer Convertible being sold these days at Barret-Jackson:

http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=68351

 An outstanding and exclusive FWL-Car!

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Posted 2018-04-07 11:55 AM (#561252 - in reply to #560824)
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B. F. Wiley Motor Co.

Beebe DeSoto-Plymouth

Berl Berry Dodge in Kansas City, Missouri

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Posted 2018-04-08 8:27 AM (#561270 - in reply to #560824)
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Great Photos!
Noticed none of the Art Frost Dealership cars had no passenger side mirrors.
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Posted 2018-04-08 3:56 PM (#561280 - in reply to #560824)
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A quick comment about the noticed poor fit of the rear door on the '57 DeSoto sedan mentioned above. Back in the day it was common practice for the dealers to "rebuild" these cars once at the dealership from the factory as they were extremely poorly assembled. At my dad's dealership, he would have never had that car on the showroom floor without the door being properly adjusted which would be relatively simple to do. Many things "slipped through the cracks" at the assembly plants back then with the possible exception of the Imperial as there was more attention to detail. Still not the greatest but better than average regarding the Chrysler plants.


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Posted 2018-04-09 2:42 PM (#561317 - in reply to #560824)
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Beyer Motors, 3435 S Kingshighway Blvd, St. Louis



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Posted 2018-04-09 3:03 PM (#561319 - in reply to #560824)
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The Beyer Motors building is still standing:


https://www.google.ca/maps/place/3435+S+Kingshighway+Blvd,+St.+Louis...

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Posted 2018-04-11 3:21 PM (#561409 - in reply to #560824)
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Bigelow Motors, Washington Ave. Belleville N.J.

Bill Brown, Spokane

Bill Ellis Motors, Palm Springs CA

Bill Henderson Motors, 23677 Van Dyke at 9.5 Mile Road, Warren MI.



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Posted 2018-04-12 7:14 PM (#561493 - in reply to #560824)
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The 1957 new model introduction looks as if it was a roaring success at the Frost dealership. I wonder how many cars they sold based on the new low FL bodies for 1957? It makes me feel a bit sad because I know the build quality (especially of the early cars) was not all it should have been and turned off customers due to their propensity of early rust outs. And the recession of 1958 didn't help either.





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Posted 2018-04-14 1:10 PM (#561608 - in reply to #560824)
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Bill Luke

Bill Poer , 202 South Myrtle Ave. Monrovia, CA

Bill Stock Motors, Roseburg, OR



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Posted 2018-04-14 3:12 PM (#561613 - in reply to #561608)
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I thought the Bill Stock Motors building and cars looked like there was a war on. Apparently they were damaged in a major fire and dynamite explosion that levelled something like 12 blocks in the downtown. Several (13?) deaths and various injuries (25 people?) in various gruesome ways. Yikes!

https://books.google.ca/books?id=nEwiCgAAQBAJ&pg=PT60&lpg=PT60&dq=Bi...

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Posted 2018-04-19 2:16 PM (#561899 - in reply to #560824)
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Boat Motors, N 14th at US 441, Leesburg, FL

Bohling, Hammond, Indiana

Boling Motors

Bolmer Motors, East Main Street, Bound Brook, NJ

Boyd Motors





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Posted 2018-04-26 11:11 AM (#562308 - in reply to #560824)
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Brener Motor Sales, Toledo, OH

Brooks Brothers, Meadwille, PA

Brown Motors, North Petoskey, MI

Brucker Motors, St Charles, MO

Bryant Motor Co.

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Posted 2018-04-26 11:24 AM (#562309 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-04-26 12:29 PM (#562314 - in reply to #560824)
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These are SUPER helpful as I'm doing museum stuff!
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Posted 2018-04-26 1:23 PM (#562320 - in reply to #560824)
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does anyone else notice no one was fat back in the 50's?
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Posted 2018-04-26 4:23 PM (#562332 - in reply to #562320)
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mikes2nd - 2018-04-26 12:23 PM

does anyone else notice no one was fat back in the 50's? :)


Yeah, not even Santa. But you have to remember this was before the govenment started regulating everything and people were eating eggs, bacon, saugage, cheese, fried potatoes, bread, biscuits and gravy, etc. and this was just for breakfast! Boy, it was great back then.


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Posted 2018-04-26 4:25 PM (#562333 - in reply to #560824)
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I don't know about no-one, but it definitely doesn't look as common as today.

I wish I could find an old picture of Bank Motors where my Plymouth was purchased, but I have come up empty so far.



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Posted 2018-04-26 6:48 PM (#562340 - in reply to #562332)
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Viper Guy - 2018-04-26 4:23 PM
mikes2nd - 2018-04-26 12:23 PM does anyone else notice no one was fat back in the 50's? :)
Yeah, not even Santa. But you have to remember this was before the govenment started regulating everything and people were eating eggs, bacon, saugage, cheese, fried potatoes, bread, biscuits and gravy, etc. and this was just for breakfast! Boy, it was great back then.

 

no one was drinking corn syrup like it was water(sugar is addictive), and they worked.  now corn syrup in everything...  fried foods everyday with chemicals that make you addicted... maybe we need to make some regulations to go back to those pure foods

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Posted 2018-05-05 3:43 PM (#562846 - in reply to #560824)
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C. A. White & Son, Delaware, OH

C. B. Smith, Austin, TX

C. F. Smith Motor Company, 22nd and Broadway, Louisville, KY

C.H. Dimmette, 900 Santa Monica Blvd, Santa Monica, CA

C. J. Russell, Ogdensburg, NY




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Posted 2018-05-06 12:22 AM (#562861 - in reply to #560824)
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My Regal lancer came with the "Berl Berry" emblem on it. Interesting to see it posted.



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Posted 2018-05-13 3:06 PM (#563300 - in reply to #560824)
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C.S. Hamilton, Dallas, TX

Caldwell-Pyle Inc., Compton, CA

Capital Chrysler Plymouth Tallahassee, FL

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Posted 2018-05-13 3:13 PM (#563301 - in reply to #563300)
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Ooo..A very early Fiat- Chrysler (product) connection? (I see Fiat 500s but they might be NSU Prinzes too ??)



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Posted 2018-05-14 1:18 AM (#563328 - in reply to #560824)
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A lot of awesome photos. I was wondering if there is a time machine that will take back to the good ole days when these cars were brand new , I can go to the dealership order myself a 1958 plymouth belvedere fully loaded with a 318 red and white . I know that is not possible but you can not blame me for trying
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Posted 2018-05-14 3:01 PM (#563368 - in reply to #560824)
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yes, it's funny, very early FCA products

1- Fiat 500, 2- Fiat 600, 3- Autobianchi (Fiat 500 based car)

https://www.hemmings.com/magazine/hsx/2011/10/Celestial-Cinquecento-...



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Posted 2018-05-24 3:16 PM (#563972 - in reply to #560824)
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Central Motor Company, Austin Avenue, Waco, TX

Century Motors, Brooklyn, NY

Certilman Motors, Babylon, NY

Chet Dickson, Petaluma, CA



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Posted 2018-05-25 10:53 PM (#564027 - in reply to #563972)
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Posted 2018-05-31 5:31 PM (#564329 - in reply to #560824)
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Holley?

Anyone know?



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Posted 2018-05-31 6:20 PM (#564337 - in reply to #564329)
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ABloch - 2018-05-31 5:31 PM

Holley?

Anyone know?


Google Holley Dodge Middletown CT. Don't know if they are the same but they probably are.
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Posted 2018-05-31 8:38 PM (#564348 - in reply to #560824)
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Tried that. That dealership closed in 2009 after only 21years in business. Doesn't add up.
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Posted 2018-06-01 1:18 AM (#564354 - in reply to #560824)
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Bagott Motors

Bagott Motors

Bagott Motors

Bagott Motors

Bagott Motors in Palouse, WA.  I bought this neon sign from them a few years back and hadn't seen these photos he had.  Only pics I have seen with my sign hanging on the building.  I thought the sign was late 40s early 50s but I was wrong.  Clearly prewar from the cars in the photos.  I've never seen another one like it.

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Posted 2018-06-01 12:42 PM (#564369 - in reply to #564337)
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hergfest, nice story, thanks for sharing.


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ABloch - 2018-05-31 5:31 PM

Holley?

Anyone know?


Google Holley Dodge Middletown CT. Don't know if they are the same but they probably are.


May Tyler TX?



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Posted 2018-06-02 8:30 AM (#564405 - in reply to #560824)
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It's unusual to see the Dodge/Plymouth combo. Usually see chrysler plymouth. Also, that height is unique as well. The more common ones are 9-13' tall. That's a super cool sign you got!
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Posted 2018-06-02 9:58 PM (#564435 - in reply to #560824)
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I'm thinking it was locally made. They had a fire in 1955 and had to rebuild most of the building, I think that is when the sign was taken down. They put up some new Neon after the rebuild I'm guessing in 1956 judging from the cars in the photos. The "BAGOTT" must have also been locally made. Palouse is in Eastern WA close to the Idaho border. Pretty remote place. Pics are of the install and some I took on Thursday.

 

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Posted 2018-06-07 12:08 PM (#564725 - in reply to #560824)
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might as well put this picture here, its from a dealership, displaying the "Suddenly" Hot Rod car.





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Posted 2018-06-09 2:21 PM (#564886 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-06-15 2:58 PM (#565183 - in reply to #560824)
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Childs Motor Co.

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Posted 2018-06-15 3:20 PM (#565186 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-06-16 4:48 PM (#565223 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-06-24 5:35 AM (#565528 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-06-24 5:39 AM (#565529 - in reply to #560824)
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Cook Motor Sales, Chicopee, MA

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Posted 2018-06-30 6:47 PM (#565836 - in reply to #560824)
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Found online a postcard of the dealership where my 1959 Sport Fury was delivered to brand spanking new! If you look closely, you can see a '57 Chrysler, a '60 Chrysler, and a '60 Plymouth



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Posted 2018-07-14 3:52 PM (#566595 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-07-15 11:30 AM (#566636 - in reply to #560824)
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couple Dodge Dealers, Boyd emblem is 60's

Think Chuck Hutton closed Dodge, sells Chevys and Toyotas now



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Posted 2018-07-29 8:24 AM (#567363 - in reply to #560824)
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Dependable Motors, 319 Lincoln Way, Monroe, MI

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Posted 2018-08-11 2:27 PM (#568240 - in reply to #560824)
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Dick Green, Detroit, MI

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Posted 2018-09-03 1:23 PM (#569528 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks so much for posting the photo of Dick Green Chrysler in Detroit. My 1966 Town and Country was sold there, and I have been looking in vain until now for a reference,, as the building is gone now.
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Posted 2018-09-10 2:18 PM (#569911 - in reply to #560824)
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Downey, 8610 E. Firestone Blvd.

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Posted 2018-09-29 12:59 PM (#570904 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-09-30 9:28 PM (#570984 - in reply to #560824)
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Redmond Motor Sales Desoto Plymouth Redmond, WA
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Posted 2018-10-01 9:58 PM (#571037 - in reply to #570984)
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Posted 2018-10-02 1:12 AM (#571039 - in reply to #571037)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2018-10-01 9:58 PM
Where the photo ???


On his iPhone as a .jpeg ?
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Posted 2018-10-02 6:31 PM (#571067 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-10-02 7:15 PM (#571073 - in reply to #560824)
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I seem to remember that there is (or was) a Doering Motors in suburban Milwaukee. I think they sold Dodge cars mainly. I may have even bought a new 1982 Dodge 400 from them. A nice enough car, but the 2.2 4 cylinder wasn't peppy enough for me and the CV joints went out on the left side at 100,000 miles. Traded it for a Thunderbird with the 302 V-8 (5 liter)

The office girl working the mechanical NCR cash register probably explains why the picture was in the Dayton archives. NCR was justly proud of the machines they used to manufacture here in Dayton.





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Posted 2018-10-02 8:07 PM (#571077 - in reply to #570984)
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Redmond Motor Sales Desoto Plymouth Redmond, WA


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This place stood at the SE end of town. I never knew it as anything but
a used car dealership, but a neighbor bought his 56 DeSoto there (he still
owned it in the 70's) and told me all about the place. He said he had intended
to trade the 56 in on a new 61 DeSoto, but when he went in to do so, was
told the brand had been discontinued and they could get no more, so rather
than change brands, he kept his 56.

I would really like to see a photo of that place as a DeSoto dealership.
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Posted 2018-10-02 11:56 PM (#571086 - in reply to #560824)
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Sorry, I couldn't get the pics to load the other night and didn't realize I had posted. Lets see if this works. Found these in the Washington State Archives, it is two photos of an accident scene in Redmond, WA, in approx 1946.



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Posted 2018-10-03 1:30 AM (#571087 - in reply to #571086)
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Thanks ! Utterly amazing. Hardly recognizable to my 1960's-70's
time there. The larger photo gives it away as being where the old
Avondale Road peeled off at the odd angle to the highway to Fall City,
which in turn, helps interpret what I am seeing with the camera facing
the other direction. So much had changed by 1970 ! Today, a person
could not find it at all. When Microsoft came to town, the whole place
was torn up and transformed into a netherworld of boutiques and strip
malls for the Microwives to spend their trophy money at.

Odd, the two identical Chrysler sedans in the photo.
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Posted 2018-10-27 6:28 AM (#572447 - in reply to #560824)
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Elkins Motor Company, Durham, NC



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Posted 2018-10-31 6:55 PM (#572714 - in reply to #560824)
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We have a parts car '57 Belvedere with a Beyers dealer badge on it. Boast Motors in Leesburg once stood where the current Leesburg welcome sign stands now, according to the historical society...
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Posted 2018-11-08 2:32 PM (#573182 - in reply to #560824)
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Is there anyone who has some information, photos etc from the Dodge dealer Bert W. Rude Motor Co in Harrisburg Ill?



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Posted 2018-11-08 6:37 PM (#573185 - in reply to #561409)
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RDP - 2018-04-11 3:21 PM

Bigelow Motors, Washington Ave. Belleville N.J.

Bill Brown, Spokane

Bill Ellis Motors, Palm Springs CA

Bill Henderson Motors, 23677 Van Dyke at 9.5 Mile Road, Warren MI.


My father took that picture of the '57 Plymouth. It belonged to his friend Hank Blank. Taken in the lot of Barney's Esso station, which has long since been gone.
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Posted 2018-11-24 7:02 AM (#574054 - in reply to #573185)
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RDP - 2018-04-11 3:21 PM

Bigelow Motors, Washington Ave. Belleville N.J.

Bill Brown, Spokane

Bill Ellis Motors, Palm Springs CA

Bill Henderson Motors, 23677 Van Dyke at 9.5 Mile Road, Warren MI.


My father took that picture of the '57 Plymouth. It belonged to his friend Hank Blank. Taken in the lot of Barney's Esso station, which has long since been gone.
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Thanks for the info. I found it on Jalopy Journal
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Posted 2018-11-24 7:05 AM (#574055 - in reply to #560824)
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Ferris Miles

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Posted 2018-11-24 11:31 AM (#574067 - in reply to #560824)
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Interesting. Just wonder if anyone have some information about where my Desoto was sold new.
It should be something like : Alexander motor in Portland Oregon or mabye Alexander brother.
The car might be a drive away car and started its life as a democar in Portland befor the first owner bought it in early 1960.
Any information would be appreciated.
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Interesting. Just wonder if anyone have some information about where my Desoto was sold new.
It should be something like : Alexander motor in Portland Oregon or mabye Alexander brother.
The car might be a drive away car and started its life as a democar in Portland befor the first owner bought it in early 1960.
Any information would be appreciated.
Magnus



Alexander Motors, 2340 NE Sandy Blvd
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Posted 2018-11-24 2:14 PM (#574072 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-11-24 2:32 PM (#574073 - in reply to #574072)
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Thanks, is it still there?


The building is still there but it looks like things have changed. In July 2015, it seems to be a closed Chrysler Jeep Dealership. By July 2018 it was Providore Fine Foods (and some other shops).

"On Feb. 10 (2016), the gourmet food market will launch as the centerpiece tenant at Providore Fine Foods, Portland's European-inspired response to Seattle's Melrose Market, found in the historic, 5,000-square-foot De Soto Building on Northeast 24th Avenue and Sandy Boulevard"

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Posted 2018-11-25 1:11 AM (#574087 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-12-10 2:03 PM (#575002 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2018-12-10 4:50 PM (#575013 - in reply to #575002)
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Anyone have photos of Hub Motor Co in Lubbock, TX. Big dealership with two locations in Lubbock. That's where my 55 Desoto was sold new.

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Posted 2018-12-10 5:46 PM (#575018 - in reply to #575013)
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Gearhart Dodge on Rt. 46 in Denville, NJ sold my 59 Dodge. They were a Dodge dealership from 1954 until around 1961, when they switched to Chevrolet. I know the original building is still standing. Any photos ?

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Gearhart Dodge on Rt. 46 in Denville, NJ sold my 59 Dodge. They were a Dodge dealership from 1954 until around 1961, when they switched to Chevrolet. I know the original building is still standing. Any photos ?

Ron




Maybe (it might be the Chevy dealer across the street):

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Posted 2018-12-10 8:27 PM (#575029 - in reply to #575024)
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Gearhart became Schumacher within the last two years. The building that now has the Hibachi restaurant is where Gearhart Dodge was. How do I know this ? I went to Schumacher Chevrolet recently and spoke to an old timer that pointed that out to me.

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Posted 2018-12-14 6:11 AM (#575217 - in reply to #560824)
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Someone mentioned that Dodge - Plymouth dealers were not common (or something like that).

Prior to the introduction of the 1960 models, Dodge-Plymouth was the largest group of Chrysler Corporation dealers. In 1930 Chrysler Corp. added Plymouth to all Dodge, DeSoto and Chrysler dealers. Prior to that most Plymouth dealers were combined with Chrysler while Dodge and DeSoto were on their own. With the depression and low sales, the addition of Plymouth helped dealers keep afloat and helped Plymouth become #3 in US sales.

Anyway, with Dodge dealers handling the new Dart for 1960, Dodge dealers generally dropped the Plymouth, and thus became dealers of Dodge cars and trucks.

With the DeSoto being dropped early in the 1961 model year, Plymouth-DeSoto dealers became Plymouth-Chrysler dealers. Apparently there was some house cleaning at the time with dealers losing their dealerships. With Chrysler Corp's poor sales during 1961-62 I can see why there would be some pruning. By the 1963 model year, the dealerships, and divisions, were settled as Dodge and Chrysler-Plymouth. Imperials were handled by the bigger Chrysler dealers.

This was only in the U.S. and not in Canada.
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Posted 2018-12-14 9:31 AM (#575219 - in reply to #560824)
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I got these signs up yesterday. The plymouth part broke in transit, will be getting it fixed soon. LOVE seeing these dealership pictures, the signs are amazing.

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Posted 2019-01-04 3:23 PM (#576270 - in reply to #560824)
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Mike, you have a great collection.
I would be happy to see more photos.
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Posted 2019-01-04 3:38 PM (#576271 - in reply to #560824)
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City, 901 N. Broadway, Oklahoma City, OK.
I'm not sure if it's also owned by Goodro's

Foster Automobile Co, 484 Bedford Rd, Pleasantville, NY

Frank T. Spisak, 264 N. Ave, Owego, NY

Forrest Motor Co., 320 Monterey St. , Salinas, CA






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Posted 2019-01-05 8:15 AM (#576294 - in reply to #560824)
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hi all does anyone know the dodge dealership name from gladewater texas my 1959 coronet sedan car was sold new in gladewater and id love to know the name of the dealership it was shipped to dallas 15th day 11th 1958 from detroit by the research so far cheers brett great history here...
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Posted 2019-01-05 9:24 AM (#576296 - in reply to #560824)
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This thread is really great, thanks' for all work and effort to keep it live.

To quote Sid (as I remember) - to watch the old pictures is like watching another planet
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Posted 2019-01-05 10:32 AM (#576299 - in reply to #560824)
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Is amazing to see how Elkins Motor Company is using non original parts and doing a crappy job!

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hi all does anyone know the dodge dealership name from gladewater texas my 1959 coronet sedan car was sold new in gladewater and id love to know the name of the dealership it was shipped to dallas 15th day 11th 1958 from detroit by the research so far cheers brett great history here...



may this one



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Is amazing to see how Elkins Motor Company is using non original parts and doing a crappy job! :)


You must be referring to the flex hose on the radiator of that DeSoto?. You would think that they had the correct parts to put on it at that time. But that hose may have been installed by the owner for some reason.
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Powerflite - 2019-01-05 11:46 AM

You must be referring to the flex hose on the radiator of that DeSoto?. You would think that they had the correct parts to put on it at that time. But that hose may have been installed by the owner for some reason.


That is a Mopar genuine flexible hose replacement, in a virtually new car. Do to pictures like this, it is hard to believe, that the same factory hose will last 60 years in another car as many claim.

If you could travel to 1958 and visit a Chrysler dealer, these hoses is what they have for sale at the counter.










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Posted 2019-01-06 2:47 PM (#576356 - in reply to #560824)
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My 58 Plymouth conv was sold new at Greenwald Plymouth in Akron, Ohio. Anybody has a keychain or dealer emblem that would like to sell to me? The dealership is long closed, but would really love to find these items, or anything related to this dealership. Thank you
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Posted 2019-01-06 4:07 PM (#576366 - in reply to #560824)
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Thank you, had seen these on google....any pics of the dealership or memorabilia ?
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Posted 2019-01-07 11:51 AM (#576423 - in reply to #560824)
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Dave , do you have these ads in a large size?


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Posted 2019-01-08 6:51 AM (#576482 - in reply to #576300)
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cheers for that ill do some research amazing info on this site...
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Dave , do you have these ads in a large size?


You could get them from the The Akron Beacon Journal newspaper's internet site but required signing up for something. Might be free:

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/151205134/



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This is the license plate surround & Valiant matchbook ad for Bank Motors in Los Angeles where my '56 Plymouth was purchased.



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Posted 2019-01-23 1:58 PM (#577276 - in reply to #560824)
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Hello guys, looking for some pictures or something on a dealer named James F Waters In LA or James E Waters In LA. I know that it may be same company just named diffrently in diffrent regions of California. Thanks
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Hello guys, looking for some pictures or something on a dealer named James F Waters In LA or James E Waters In LA. I know that it may be same company just named diffrently in diffrent regions of California. Thanks


Looks like James F. is your man:

http://www.coachbuilt.com/bui/w/waters/waters.htm

http://www.qchron.com/qboro/i_have_often_walked/the-rise-and-fall-o...





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Posted 2019-01-23 3:41 PM (#577283 - in reply to #560824)
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I just wonder how secret the second link is Dave?!

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We recognise you are attempting to access this website from a country belonging to the European Economic Area (EEA) including the EU which enforces the General Data Protection Regulation (GDPR) and therefore cannot grant you access at this time. For any issues, e-mail us at mailbox@qchron.com or call us at 718-205-8000.

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I just wonder how secret the second link is Dave?!


Queen's Chronicle Newspaper article:

" James F. Waters was an early West Coast automobile dealer in San Francisco who decided to expand his operations and enter the New York City marketplace. In 1935, he started a business in Manhattan, with seven-passenger DeSoto automobiles converted into taxicabs complete with the Chrysler Corp. warranty.

The city passed regulations in 1929 dictating any vehicle used for livery or taxi cab service must be able to carry five passengers in the rear and jump seats. Only Checker, DeSoto and Packard manufactured vehicles that size to meet these requirements.

On June 1, 1940, Waters leased an entire block in Long Island City at 34th Street and 47th Avenue for the DeSoto taxicab operation. All across the city, people saw the vehicles, which had a retractable roof with a molded globe that read DeSoto Sky View.

In 1953, the DeSoto Retailer magazine bragged that seven out of 10 cabs in the city belonged to the company. The vehicles each had an 18-foot-long, eight-passenger body with a six-cylinder engine, manual transmission and 139.5-inch wheelbase.

The end came fast, shortly after Mayor Wagner came into office and the city outlawed the widely used, long wheelbase and set a new maximum of only 120 inches. Ford and Chevrolet were now allowed to enter New York City’s lucrative marketplace.

In 1955 the Waters cabs ended their reign and his Long Island City operation closed. It quickly vanished and the city soon saw Ford, Plymouth and Chevy cabs everywhere."


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Posted 2019-01-23 9:55 PM (#577305 - in reply to #560824)
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Two other restrictions on the New York cabs of that era -

Trunk was sealed. Some writers have said that was due to restrictions on alcohol during prohibition.

The front seat had just a seat for the driver, with a platform where the front passengers would have been. The platform was for the luggage, etc. that normally would have gone in the trunk.

Chrysler had finalized work on a LWB 1955 DeSoto cab - body was to be shared with the Crown Imperial, as in past years. The Engineering people even declared the first serial number for the 1955 DeSoto S22 Taxi. The 1954 DeSoto Taxi S20, 139½" wheelbase, saw production of 2,005 units.

But the announcement from New York City to cancel the LWB cabs caused Chrysler and Checker to end production. Checker closed their plant for almost two years as they worked on developing a new cab on a 120" wheelbase, which was ready to go in 1956. And lasted to the end of production in 1981. Packard abandoned the LWB taxi field in 1948. GM was involved briefly in the late 1930's by taking a Chevrolet sedan and extending the body. It was sold as the General Cab.

DeSoto would go back to the taxi business in January, 1957, with the introduction of the DeSoto Firesweep cab with a Dodge Coronet flathead six in the Firesweep body. With the introduction of the DeSoto Firesweep taxi, the engine serial number prefix changed from D72- to KDS6-. A total of 139 6 cylinder taxis were built for 1957. DeSoto announced the taxi based on a 6 cylinder Firesweep in 1958 and 1959, but no production numbers are known.

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Posted 2019-01-23 10:53 PM (#577308 - in reply to #560824)
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By the way, the Queen's Chronicle is published in Glendale, New York.

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Posted 2019-01-24 12:31 AM (#577314 - in reply to #577288)
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wizard - 2019-01-23 3:41 PM

I just wonder how secret the second link is Dave?!


Queen's Chronicle Newspaper article:

" James F. Waters was an early West Coast automobile dealer in San Francisco who decided to expand his operations and enter the New York City marketplace. In 1935, he started a business in Manhattan, with seven-passenger DeSoto automobiles converted into taxicabs complete with the Chrysler Corp. warranty.

The city passed regulations in 1929 dictating any vehicle used for livery or taxi cab service must be able to carry five passengers in the rear and jump seats. Only Checker, DeSoto and Packard manufactured vehicles that size to meet these requirements.

On June 1, 1940, Waters leased an entire block in Long Island City at 34th Street and 47th Avenue for the DeSoto taxicab operation. All across the city, people saw the vehicles, which had a retractable roof with a molded globe that read DeSoto Sky View.

In 1953, the DeSoto Retailer magazine bragged that seven out of 10 cabs in the city belonged to the company. The vehicles each had an 18-foot-long, eight-passenger body with a six-cylinder engine, manual transmission and 139.5-inch wheelbase.

The end came fast, shortly after Mayor Wagner came into office and the city outlawed the widely used, long wheelbase and set a new maximum of only 120 inches. Ford and Chevrolet were now allowed to enter New York City’s lucrative marketplace.

In 1955 the Waters cabs ended their reign and his Long Island City operation closed. It quickly vanished and the city soon saw Ford, Plymouth and Chevy cabs everywhere."





Thanks' Dave, hope you don't get any problem sharing that to Europe
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Posted 2019-01-24 7:53 AM (#577322 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks for the info guys! Was like i suspected then but cool to have that website
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Posted 2019-01-24 3:35 PM (#577346 - in reply to #560824)
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its a FL era thread , but why not

J. F. Waters - non FL era pics






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Posted 2019-02-06 1:38 PM (#577913 - in reply to #560824)
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Garden State Motors, 3400 Black Horse Pike, Collingswood, NJ

Gate City Motor Co., Greensboro, NC

Gates (???-Gates Bros, Wendell, ID-???)



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Posted 2019-03-08 3:49 PM (#579040 - in reply to #560824)
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Geo. Byers Sons



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Posted 2019-03-08 3:52 PM (#579041 - in reply to #560824)
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Byers anniversary brochure



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Posted 2019-04-07 5:22 AM (#580481 - in reply to #560824)
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General Auto Sales , Newport News, VA

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Gillespie-Blumer Motors, 802 E. Washington Ave, Madison, WI

Glen T Smith

Glenn Walker Grosse Point, Grosse Pointe Woods, MI



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Posted 2019-06-02 7:24 AM (#582816 - in reply to #560824)
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Goodwin Brothers, 444-450 East Main, Lexington, KY

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Posted 2019-06-02 9:53 AM (#582818 - in reply to #560824)
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My Imperial came from the Leonard Eli dealership which was in Redwood City. I cannot find any info on this dealer, all I have is the number plate surround and the print on the cars paperwork. Can any one help me find more info?

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My Imperial came from the Leonard Eli dealership which was in Redwood City. I cannot find any info on this dealer, all I have is the number plate surround and the print on the cars paperwork. Can any one help me find more info?

Steve.



Steve, do you know the dealer code number?

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Posted 2019-06-22 2:09 PM (#583869 - in reply to #560824)
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Griffith Motors, 2770 N. Speer Blvd., Denver, CO

Guy Moothart 1112 N. Long Beach Blvd., Compton, CA

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Posted 2019-07-14 5:43 AM (#584801 - in reply to #560824)
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H. E. Baher Inc. , Alhambra, CA



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George Byers and Sons is still doing business in Columbus. They no longer sell Plymouths or De Sotos, but they sell Chrysler, Dodge, RAM trucks, and Jeeps. They also sell a wide range of world cars as well, such as VW, Porche, Jaguar, Mazda, Kia, etc. 

During the 60s and 70s they had a lock on the fleet of taxicabs that worked out of Columbus. United Transportation, a firm that I worked for when I was in college, had fleets of 1968 Plymouth Fury I and 1972 Plymouth Fury I cabs which they had contracted with George Byers to provide. 



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Posted 2019-07-18 9:09 PM (#584977 - in reply to #560824)
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Wow!!! such great history in photos!! any info on Liberty Motors INC. in Birmingham Alabama? that's where my 55 dodge custom royal was shipped and presumably sold.
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any info on Liberty Motors INC. in Birmingham Alabama?


nobody nothing? I have only Liberty Motor Co, Spokane, WA







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Posted 2019-09-15 5:11 AM (#587540 - in reply to #560824)
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H. E. Wagner Motor Sales

Hale Zupan Inc., 13815 Detroit Ave., Cleveland, OH

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A couple of Fookerangs from Facebook.

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Posted 2019-10-03 3:09 PM (#588363 - in reply to #588327)
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A couple of Fookerangs from Facebook.

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Posted 2019-10-13 5:10 AM (#588776 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2019-11-11 4:15 AM (#590002 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2019-11-11 4:25 AM (#590003 - in reply to #560824)
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Harner Motor, Center St., Tharptown, PA

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Posted 2019-11-11 3:26 PM (#590027 - in reply to #590003)
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This photo is of Victoria Dodge DeSoto, 1061 Yates Street, Victoria, BC Canada. My hometown, I still live here.
In 1961 this dealer became Pacific Chrysler and in 1963 became Ensign Chrysler Plymouth.
Several years ago it became Harris Victoria Dodge Chrysler Jeep. (bottom photo). It's now slated to be torn down for redevelopment.




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Posted 2019-11-30 10:38 AM (#590935 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-02-16 6:21 AM (#594358 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-02-25 9:14 AM (#594797 - in reply to #560824)
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my Wifes 57 sport sub came from healey any chance you would sell those slides?
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my Wifes 57 sport sub came from healey any chance you would sell those slides?



I only have these jpg images, that's all. Sorry.
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Posted 2020-02-25 6:28 PM (#594821 - in reply to #560824)
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My 300F came from Roy Burnett Motors in Portland, Oregon. The building is still there as the headquarters for Pendleton Woolen Mills. My 1960 New Yorker Town & Country came from Max Barish Inc. at 4th and La Brea in Los Angeles. That building is gone and I couldn't find much info on the dealership.

Here is the history I put together on Roy Burnett, Inc. - https://www.300f.com/8403150442_burnett.htm





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Posted 2020-02-27 1:06 PM (#594909 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks Norm, it looks much better now.

Thanks for sharing Nick.

1957 Burnett ad and Barrish promo playing cards



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Posted 2020-03-19 5:33 PM (#595762 - in reply to #560824)
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My DeSoto is from the Hub Motor Co. in Lubbock, TX. Does anyone have any information on it? Thank you!
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My DeSoto is from the Hub Motor Co. in Lubbock, TX. Does anyone have any information on it? Thank you!


Carolyn: I real quick look turned up:

https://desoto.org/community/discussion/1955-desoto-fireflite-red-an...

Hub Motor certainly advertised the 1955 Desoto a lot:





Looks like they were at 901 Avenue H in Lubbock. I think Avenue H got renamed to Buddy (all of my love, all of my kisses) Holly Avenue. Here is what 901 looks like now:

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Posted 2020-04-04 9:04 AM (#596427 - in reply to #560824)
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Here's a couple items from my hometown Forwardlook dealer, Bastian Motors, which burned down in 1961 and did not reopen. The dark circles showing through the Desoto key chain is from someone pressing a car's cigarette lighter to the back of it, melting the plastic. I think it's cool that the key chain (from 1952-53) mimics the shape of a hemi combustion chamber.



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Posted 2020-04-05 8:28 AM (#596456 - in reply to #560824)
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Great thread and interesting info!
Anyone notice the Art Frost underhood photo (page 1), showing a 57 Flite w/o hood insulation and appearing to have vacuum windshield washers? In contrast,
the page 2 photo of AC Elkins shows a 58 Flite with hood insulation and a foot washer pump.

Received the FCA build cards for my 57's. The Flite came from #89041 Polk dealership in Alexandria Va. The Dome came from #36947 Bob Bauer in San Diego Calif.

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JPMopar, it looks like your key-ring is part of the 33rd anniversary "Bell Ringer" sale like in the '55 ads for Hub Motor. I really like that business card you shared. Pretty cool. Mine from Bank Motors is of a similar design.



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Posted 2020-04-05 1:27 PM (#596465 - in reply to #560824)
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This is the emblem that was on the back of my Regal lancer...   Emblem was fairly small, they owned a Ford dealership also.



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Posted 2020-04-05 1:50 PM (#596467 - in reply to #596465)
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The dealership today, an Aamco shop. Might be the same building still. Same houses in the background. Trees have grown



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Posted 2020-04-06 2:36 PM (#596506 - in reply to #596462)
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Powerflite - 2020-04-05 11:42 AM

JPMopar, it looks like your key-ring is part of the 33rd anniversary "Bell Ringer" sale like in the '55 ads for Hub Motor's


I was thinking the key-ring was from 1952, since that's the year of the "160 HP" Firedome (that's stamped on the key-ring). In 1955, wasn't the Firedome rated at 185 HP?

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jpmopar - 2020-04-05 8:42 AM

Here's a couple items from my hometown Forwardlook dealer, Bastian Motors, which burned down in 1961 and did not reopen. The dark circles showing through the Desoto key chain is from someone pressing a car's cigarette lighter to the back of it, melting the plastic. I think it's cool that the key chain (from 1952-53) mimics the shape of a hemi combustion chamber.




Bastian Motors, Bastian, VA



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Posted 2020-04-06 2:49 PM (#596509 - in reply to #596456)
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1957sotos - 2020-04-05 2:28 PM

Great thread and interesting info!
Anyone notice the Art Frost underhood photo (page 1), showing a 57 Flite w/o hood insulation and appearing to have vacuum windshield washers? In contrast,
the page 2 photo of AC Elkins shows a 58 Flite with hood insulation and a foot washer pump.

Received the FCA build cards for my 57's. The Flite came from #89041 Polk dealership in Alexandria Va. The Dome came from #36947 Bob Bauer in San Diego Calif.

Great service.


Thanks for the dealership numbers. I'm build a dealership list, available soon.


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Posted 2020-04-06 2:55 PM (#596511 - in reply to #560824)
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I was thinking the key-ring was from 1952, since that's the year of the "160 HP" Firedome (that's stamped on the key-ring). In 1955, wasn't the Firedome rated at 185 HP?



That ad must be celebrating a 33rd anniversary of Hub Motors because DeSoto didn't come into being until late 1928, and Chrysler in 1925. Your bell shaped key-ring may be celebrating some other anniversary.

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Posted 2020-04-06 3:51 PM (#596512 - in reply to #596508)
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jpmopar - 2020-04-05 8:42 AM

Here's a couple items from my hometown Forwardlook dealer, Bastian Motors, which burned down in 1961 and did not reopen. The dark circles showing through the Desoto key chain is from someone pressing a car's cigarette lighter to the back of it, melting the plastic. I think it's cool that the key chain (from 1952-53) mimics the shape of a hemi combustion chamber.




Bastian Motors, Bastian, VA



This is the photo I'd posted to both Jalopy Journal and Kustomrama years back. That custom car is the Donz Lancer and it was briefly on display at Bastian Motors back in the mid-50's. Here's the link to the Kustomrama page:

https://kustomrama.com/wiki/Donz_Lancer

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Posted 2020-04-06 4:19 PM (#596514 - in reply to #596512)
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Posted 2020-04-19 1:59 AM (#597066 - in reply to #560824)
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Posted 2020-04-28 1:24 AM (#597451 - in reply to #560824)
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Earl C. Anthony, San Francisco 1961. 901 Van Ness Ave. Was originally a Packard dealership. Now a Land Rover/Jaguar dealer.

Check out the radio towers on this page - http://theoldmotor.com/?p=113369



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Posted 2020-04-29 10:13 AM (#597500 - in reply to #560824)
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That card of J. B. Dowd with the Jess Hunter Motor Company in Pueblo, Colorado, "Your Plymouth Dealer," is interesting. I grew up in Pueblo and here are a few tidbits:
- While I never knew Mr. Dowd, the Hunter clan was a dominant family in the automobile business in the area for years.
- The card dates back to the early 1950s as the T/P No. is still the 4-digit type used before the arrival of dial phones which certainly dates me (anyone else remember, "Number, Please?" -- mine was 2505J).
- By the time of the Forward Look, Jess Hunter had become the Ford dealer, but was still at the address on the card.
- His brother John took over the Imperial-Chrysler-Plymouth franchise after Jess left for Ford and moved it south about four blocks to 7th and Santa Fe.
- I bought my first '60 Fury from the store there at 7th and Santa Fe (and traded it for my first '65 Sport Fury there).
In those days, manufacturers were more controlling about who sold their cars and often restricted their dealers from marketing other brands. But by subterfuge, they became family businesses and by then Jess had Ford, his brother John had Chrysler-Plymouth, and a third had Lincoln-Mercury while a brother-in-law, Lloyd McKee had the biggest Chrysler-Plymouth dealership in New Mexico.
Again, it is interesting.
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Posted 2020-04-29 11:02 AM (#597503 - in reply to #596509)
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1957sotos - 2020-04-05 2:28 PM

Great thread and interesting info!
Anyone notice the Art Frost underhood photo (page 1), showing a 57 Flite w/o hood insulation and appearing to have vacuum windshield washers? In contrast,
the page 2 photo of AC Elkins shows a 58 Flite with hood insulation and a foot washer pump.

Received the FCA build cards for my 57's. The Flite came from #89041 Polk dealership in Alexandria Va. The Dome came from #36947 Bob Bauer in San Diego Calif.

Great service.


Thanks for the dealership numbers. I'm build a dealership list, available soon.


Looks like Bob Bauer was at 3266 El Cajon Blvd. in San Diego at the time. Right down the street from my old house. El Cajon Blvd was a big car dealer street in the 1950s and 1960s. In 1966 they moved to the Lemon Grove area as a Plymouth dealer.

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Stanley Dodge Simca from "The Mile of Cars" in National City, CA. 1960.
Just south of San Diego. My '64 Dodge Polara 500 convertible came from here.



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Stanley Dodge Plymouth - 1958.



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Roy Burnett Motors in Portland from 1962 directory. This is the dealership my 300F came from.





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Wagstaff Motor Co Inc. DeSoto Plymouth Atlanta http://theoldmotor.com/?p=169486

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Posted 2020-05-03 9:01 AM (#597685 - in reply to #597451)
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NicksGarage - 2020-04-28 7:24 AM

Earl C. Anthony, San Francisco 1961. 901 Van Ness Ave. Was originally a Packard dealership. Now a Land Rover/Jaguar dealer.

Check out the radio towers on this page - http://theoldmotor.com/?p=113369



After 1963 Van Ness Chrysler Plymouth.

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Posted 2020-05-03 9:07 AM (#597686 - in reply to #597508)
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NicksGarage - 2020-04-29 6:32 PM

Stanley Dodge Plymouth - 1958.


1957, 1959



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Posted 2020-05-03 11:02 AM (#597701 - in reply to #597685)
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Earl C. Anthony, San Francisco 1961. 901 Van Ness Ave. Was originally a Packard dealership. Now a Land Rover/Jaguar dealer.
Check out the radio towers on this page - http://theoldmotor.com/?p=113369


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Posted 2020-05-13 5:30 AM (#598180 - in reply to #560824)
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I did ask this already in 2004 but maybe someone has now more info about the dealer.

My Windsor was sold in 1957 by "Seattle Automobile Inc.", license plate frame says "Seattle Auto" ... dealer code in the build sheet is (7) 06569 and div/reg 23.

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Posted 2020-05-21 5:52 AM (#598568 - in reply to #598180)
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Answering to myself. So far I have learnt that Seattle Automobile Co was founded in early 1900's and it's founder was the guy who sold the very first car in Seattle in 1903. It was a Franklin dealer, then later a Packard dealer and in the 50s and 60s Chrysler-Imperial-Plymouth Dealer. Latest mention I have found online has been attached postcard from 1962.





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Posted 2020-05-24 5:03 AM (#598712 - in reply to #560824)
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Yet more digging on "Seattle Automobile Co" resulted that dealership changed owners in 1963 and became "Goodfellow Chrysler-Plymouth Inc" and in the 1970's the company switched to other brand and became "Goodfellow Ford Inc".

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Posted 2020-05-30 9:48 AM (#598987 - in reply to #560824)
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Thanks for sharing. This is a good investigation, we are waiting for photos

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Holt Motor Co., 5230 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys; CA

October 29, 1955. Jim Moran, right, secretary-manager of Van Nuys Chamber of Commerce , accepts keys to new 1956 Plymouth,
a courtesy car for use in his chamber work, from Elwyn Holt, Van Nuys Dodge-Plymouth distributor,
as Alexander De Rostaing, left, company public relations man, and W.O. Lindstrom, chamber president, look on.


March 4, 1958. Pat Olson, Miss Dodge for Dodger in 1958, shows Bob Jones, Van Nuys Holt Motors Dodge general manager,
how easy it is for public to enter giant 'Dodge for Dodgers' contest.




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Posted 2020-05-30 11:34 AM (#598992 - in reply to #598987)
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5230 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys; CA is still a car dealership. Now an Acura but it looks like they kept at least the service building if not more.





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Posted 2020-06-11 7:31 AM (#599542 - in reply to #560824)
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Howard Motors, 901 St. Charles Ave., New Orleans, LA



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Posted 2020-06-26 2:58 PM (#600133 - in reply to #560824)
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Highland Plymouth Co., 1350 28th St., Grand Rapids, MI

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Posted 2020-06-26 5:32 PM (#600138 - in reply to #560824)
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In a couple of pics above, I couldn't help notice how much more attractive (to me) the '59 Fury is over the '59 Sport Fury. Nice, clean, unbroken side trim front to rear with no unnecessary trinketry and no toilet seat on the deck lid. Sweeeeeet!
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Posted 2020-06-26 7:21 PM (#600150 - in reply to #600133)
Subject: 392 Naugatuck, Milford CT - still in the automotive service industry



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Dealership is gone but the building was still there in 2018.

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Posted 2020-06-27 5:07 AM (#600162 - in reply to #600150)
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Honeck Bros, dealer number 53668. That’s where my car was sold new.
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Posted 2020-06-27 6:49 AM (#600164 - in reply to #560824)
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Do you have the region code as well Nisse?
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Posted 2020-06-27 7:56 AM (#600166 - in reply to #600164)
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It’s 32 (New York/ Newark).
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Posted 2020-06-27 10:33 AM (#600171 - in reply to #560824)
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I found this a few days ago, no FL era, but interesting.
region 18, dealer 01.
Swen, what do you think about this?

It doesn't work together:
http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=70299&...





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Posted 2020-06-27 11:56 AM (#600173 - in reply to #598987)
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RDP - 2020-05-30 6:48 AM

Thanks for sharing. This is a good investigation, we are waiting for photos

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Holt Motor Co., 5230 Van Nuys Blvd., Van Nuys; CA

October 29, 1955. Jim Moran, right, secretary-manager of Van Nuys Chamber of Commerce , accepts keys to new 1956 Plymouth,
a courtesy car for use in his chamber work, from Elwyn Holt, Van Nuys Dodge-Plymouth distributor,
as Alexander De Rostaing, left, company public relations man, and W.O. Lindstrom, chamber president, look on.


March 4, 1958. Pat Olson, Miss Dodge for Dodger in 1958, shows Bob Jones, Van Nuys Holt Motors Dodge general manager,
how easy it is for public to enter giant 'Dodge for Dodgers' contest.


My 1960 Saratoga was purchased new at Holt Motors, Van Nuys.




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Posted 2020-07-05 1:37 AM (#600500 - in reply to #560824)
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Hutton-Tufty Co., 2317 S Minnesota Ave., Sioux Falls, SD





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