58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March
56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-24 8:23 PM (#591990)
Subject: 58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March



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56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-24 8:27 PM (#591991 - in reply to #591990)
Subject: RE: 58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March



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Turns out that, personally, I like the 57s more than the 58s. Better taillights and more personality in the front grill and bumper.



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frwl
Posted 2019-12-25 1:02 AM (#592000 - in reply to #591990)
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Wow… Great car… Dave thanks for posting…

Paint XMM = Ermine over Mesa Tan
Trim 35 = Two Tone Tan Fontainbleau Jaquard Fabric and Metallic Vinyl

Options on the cowl tag of front panel in order of appearance that should be:

Upper row from left to right:

304 = Power Windows
303 = Power Seat 6 Way
415 = Rear Quarter Stone Shields
421 = Windshield Upper Moulding
331 = Manual Antenna (or 334 = Power Antenna)
521 = Windshield Washer (Standard Equipment – non stamped)
407 = Front Fender Ornaments
345 = Heater
402 = Left Outside Rear View Mirror with Remote Control
403 = Right Outside Rear View Mirror
406 = Mirror Package A: (Left Outside Rear View Mirror 401, that replaced by 402, Prismatic Mirror 404 and Visor Vanity Mirror 405)
467 = Solex Tinted Glass in all window areas and Shaded Upper Portion Windshield

Bottom row from left to right:

56X = Delivery Route – unknown
327 = Rear Seat Speaker
443 = Radio Electro Touch Tuner (seven buttons, Music Master 441 has five buttons)
302 = Power Brakes
501 = Undercoating and Under Hood Pad (Standard Equipment – non stamped)
431 = Safety Cushion Dash Panel (Standard Equipment – non stamped)
361 = Electric Clock (Standard Equipment – non stamped)

Non-stamped options else:

356 = Front and Rear Bumper Guards
382 = Rear License Plate Frame

Unfortunately it has not a picture of data tag to compare it…
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-25 2:52 AM (#592002 - in reply to #592000)
Subject: RE: 58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March



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Good guesses at the codes Igor. Too bad there isn't a photo of the cowl data tag. Based on the engine bay photos, I have no idea where the tag is or where it should be. I do wonder what the code is for things like the various zip-ties holding things up and the wooden "bar" that is being used to hold the battery down.





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frwl
Posted 2019-12-25 5:41 AM (#592004 - in reply to #591990)
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The data tag is here, located on the top of radiator support. I just called it «front panel».




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firedome
Posted 2019-12-25 5:14 PM (#592014 - in reply to #591990)
Subject: Re: 58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March



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My '58 Windsor was that same blah color, and quite sun faded being a New Mexico car. had I kept it longer I surely would have changed it. That eBay car is otherwise a beautiful car, though I've always preferred the '57 myself. In the mid '80s there was a small Chrysler-Plymouth dealer near us in our rural country town with FOUR '57s parked in a field out back... should have dragged at least one home!

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-12-26 9:41 PM (#592067 - in reply to #592014)
Subject: Re: 58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March



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Like most, I was a diehard 57 NY'er fan for a long time. But over time, the 58 NY'er
side trim, and particularly the emblem lettering style really won me over. I have actually
come to prefer the 58 tail lights, after seeing them lit up. But the 57 has the undeniably
better bumper/grille. 58 is OK, but looks sort of ordinary, by comparison.
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fc7_plumcrazy
Posted 2019-12-27 3:55 PM (#592094 - in reply to #592067)
Subject: Re: 58 Chrysler New Yorker coming up at Mecum in March


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Doctor DeSoto - 2019-12-26 9:41 PM

Like most, I was a diehard 57 NY'er fan for a long time. But over time, the 58 NY'er
side trim, and particularly the emblem lettering style really won me over. I have actually
come to prefer the 58 tail lights, after seeing them lit up. But the 57 has the undeniably
better bumper/grille. 58 is OK, but looks sort of ordinary, by comparison.


I do agree to most of it.
I just prefer the 57 taillights way more

Carsten
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Powerflite
Posted 2019-12-27 9:22 PM (#592111 - in reply to #591990)
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I feel the same way Doc. I loved and still love the '57 New Yorker as one of my all-time favorite forwardlooks. But the '58 is a really neat car too, and I have come to like them almost as much, if not more so. The only real downsides to me are the flimsy, flat front grille and the vinyl patterned package tray ornamentation instead of the metal Chrysler New Yorker emblems on the '57 that look so great. But the side trim, gold emblems, and bumper pods with large flares on the sides of the front bumper are truly awesome. The added benefit of original cruise control and the rarity of them make they even neater. And like you, I have grown to love the unusual dip at the top of the tail light that adds great personality and flare to an already great design.
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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-12-27 9:40 PM (#592114 - in reply to #592111)
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One of the "selling points" that drew me to Forward Look cars and my first
one (57 NY'er 2HT), was the way the fin sweeps over the top of the tail light.
The 57 design seems the more "natural" design of the two, but when you see
them lit up at night, the 58 design wins, hands down. Like the 57 vs. 58 Plymouth
tail lights work, the 57 fills the cavity like a giant rabbit ear, but the light is only
right there at the bulb. The 58 design casts the light, through the lens, and the
red then creates a glow inside the rest of the fin interior, ... a classis Googie period
lighting design idea, applied to cars. The relevance of this is not lost on me, as
a design guy as part of my work.

The oversweep of the fin tip is even more accentuated on the 58 design, because
the red lens turns forward, short of the top, leaving an even greater distance of
overhang of the fin tip. So, even unlit, the fin is just that much more overswept,
giving that illusion of movement. All plusses, in my book.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-28 4:08 PM (#592141 - in reply to #592111)
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57 Saratoga showing the taillights lit up

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Doctor DeSoto
Posted 2019-12-29 2:11 AM (#592163 - in reply to #592141)
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The big difference is being lit up at night.
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