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This table will be used early in the post that I want to do about the 53-57 Dodge Double-Rocker ("Hemi") engines.
As before, a lot (almost all in this case) of the info comes from Willem Weertman's book ("Chrysler Engines - 1922 - 1998")
In compiling the data from this book into this table, I was surprised that the first Desoto and the first Dodge double-rocker engines had the same bore spacing and the same block length (but different deck heights) so different blocks (but not by much).
Interesting that the calculated hp/cu in is the highest in the Dodge 241. Good for the Dodge boys!!
I am hoping that somebody can help me fill in the missing carb numbers for the 51 Chrysler and 52 Desoto 2 bbls. (I still don't have that Leo Lingquist hemi data book).
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Location: WHEELING,WV.>>>HOME OF WWVA | 1951 6 251 Stromberg BXVES-35 4 123 150
1951 6 251 Stromberg BXVD-35 4 124 237
1951 6 251 A/T Carter BBR-1 E9A1 177
1951 6 251 S/T Carter BBR-1 E9C1 178
1951 6 251 S/T Carter BBR-1 E9C 178
1951 8 324 C52, C53, C54 Carter WCD 830 1326635 182
1951 8 324 C52, C53, C54, C55 Carter WCD 931 1408602 181
1952 6 264 Stromberg BXVES-35 4 123 150
1952 6 264 Stromberg BXVD-35 4 124 237
1952 6 264 A/T Carter BBR-1 E9A1 177
1952 6 264 S/T Carter BBR-1 E9C1 178
1952 6 264 S/T Carter BBR-1 E9C 178
1952 8 331 C52, C53, C54, C55 Carter WCD 931 1408602 181
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Thanks very much Chuck. Again, I hope that that was a cut and paste job, because otherwise, that was a lot of typing. Thanks.
I've actually been able to find a Carter water-cooled (heated?) WCD 931 2bbl on eBay. Interesting but scary.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/CARTER-WCD-CARBURETOR-1952-CHRYSLER-331-8-C...
Thanks again.
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Location: So. Cal | Here are the '52 DeSoto 276 hemi carbs:
1952 8 276 S17 fluid drive Carter BBD 901
1952 8 276 S17 S/T Carter BBD 905
1952 8 276 S17 S/T with O/D Carter BBD 906
1952 8 276 S17 fluid drive Carter BBD 908
1952 8 276 S17 S/T Carter BBD 909
1952 8 276 S17 S/T with O/D Carter BBD 910
1952 8 276 S17 Carter WCD 884
They vary depending on transmission used. That 324 in the '51 Chrysler carb data has got to be a typo for 331. I've never heard of a 324. |
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Thanks Nathan. With those clues, I found these:
1952 8 276 S17 fluid drive Carter BBD 901 197 (kit number)
1952 8 276 S17 S/T Carter BBD 905 197
1952 8 276 S17 S/T with O/D Carter BBD 906 197
1952 8 276 S17 fluid drive Carter BBD 908 198
1952 8 276 S17 S/T Carter BBD 909 198
1952 8 276 S17 S/T with O/D Carter BBD 910 198
1952 8 276 S17 Carter WCD 884 853
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I can see now where folks are getting some of their carb numbers from (thanks):
https://www.thecarburetorshop.com/Passengerkits.htm
On that basis, and the numbers that I have been given, I have revised the table to appear like this now:
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Just found these videos (couldn't find one for the 1952 Firedome introduction):
Chrysler Master Tech - 1951, Volume 4-8 FirePower Engine Facts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBQ6ztwz_ac
And Chrysler Master Tech - 1952, Volume 5-11 Dodge Red Ram V-8 Engine:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4jnNNQhZSJg
The Dodge one talks about the compression ratio of the first Red Ram being 7.1:1 (Weertman said 7.0:1 in his book). The 53 Dodge Brochure says 7.1:1 so I guess Weertman was wrong?
And this:
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A bit of an update. One change is the compression ratio of the 1953 Dodge Red Ram double-rocker engine. Willem Weertman, in his book, says 7.0:1. The 1953 era Dodge brochures and videos both say 7.1:1. I changed the ratio to 7.1:1 for the 1953 Dodge Red Ram on that basis.
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