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jimntempe
Posted 2014-02-04 1:59 PM (#425834 - in reply to #97802)
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Would there be anything revealed on the Build record that isn't already shown on the original window sticker?
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d500neil
Posted 2014-02-04 7:40 PM (#425888 - in reply to #425834)
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There WASNO (Monroney-) Window sticker until---when; 1959?

Even then, the IBM card will tell a lot more construction detail-info than will the Window Sticker.




Edited by d500neil 2014-02-04 7:42 PM
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kmccabe56
Posted 2014-05-26 9:19 PM (#442387 - in reply to #392769)
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d500neil - 2013-08-21 8:29 PM

Kevin, are you talking about Fleet Sales, with multiple cars having the same Sales Order number?





Nope. I happened to be in Historical one day when a fellow from legal turned up. There was a lawsuit involving a '65 or '66 Valiant and the build date of the car was crucial to Chrysler's defense. Outside of Historical in the building where it was located was a huge expanse of four drawer letter size file cabinets with each one full to the brim with hardcopies of shipping invoices. And they were all filed by the S.O. number. Along one side of these field of cabinets was another row of cabinets and on top of these was a HUGE binder, like you'd see in an old style auto parts place. If it was 10-15 feet long, it was an inch. This was where you looked up the vin of the car you were researching. Along with the vin was the S.O. number and also the I.D. of the file cabinet containing it. Each of the file folders in the drawers of the cabinet held all of the cars built with the same S.O. number. They were all obviously from the same plant, but there was no rhyme or reason to what they were. IIRC, the car in question was from Hamtramck, so the folder contained a smattering of everything they built. I can't recall now, but it was either the fellow from legal or the librarian who told me that there could be up to 50 cars with the same S.O. I certainly had no reason to disbelieve them.

From what I can recall of discussions with various people, a large fleet order wouldn't necessarily be built consecutively on the line. If the vehicles in the fleet were either strippers, highly loaded, or had some oddball equipment on them, they'd likely be either third, fourth or fifth vehicle or the like, depending on the manpower requirements. Yes, the fleet order would be built to a schedule with the delivery date on everyone's mind, but unless all of the manpower could be utilized as efficiently as possible, they wouldn't necessarily be one after another.

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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2014-10-03 12:33 AM (#458086 - in reply to #97802)
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I currently have 2 1961 plymouth's 1) Fury 2DR. and 1) Belvedere 2DR.both vehicles are restos. anyone interested in restoring these vehicles realizes their rarity in the mopar world if you or anyone you may are interested in these vehicles I may consider selling them as a package deal.Thanks Guys
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ttotired
Posted 2014-10-03 6:10 PM (#458161 - in reply to #97802)
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Try putting it in the for sale part and pictures are a good idea

No pictures means not for sale

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RUSTORICHES
Posted 2015-01-09 1:17 AM (#467045 - in reply to #97802)
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Thanks, for the free advise and I apologize I did post it in the wrong place but I just started using this forum at the time and of coarse made a mistake of placing these vehicles on here for sale or just asking if anyone was interested. In saying all that by the time I caught the mistake both vehicles were sold. Thanks again
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55CRL
Posted 2015-01-16 6:04 PM (#467809 - in reply to #97802)
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Up to date links from FCA - Fiat Chrysler Automobiles - Historical Services - Build Records

http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/Heritage/Pages/Build-Records...

Order form for Build Record
http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/Heritage/Heritage%20Document...
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d500neil
Posted 2015-02-20 4:07 PM (#470544 - in reply to #97802)
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The factory's IBM Build Card you gotta buy from the Chrysler Historical society, from the two links, right-above
here, in the previous message:




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wizard
Posted 2015-06-18 10:41 AM (#481917 - in reply to #97802)
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Those links don't work, I used the first links and they work.

http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/Heritage/Pages/Historical-Se...
http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/Heritage/Heritage%20Document...


Did anyone order from the Chrysler heritage lately?
It seems like they only accept check or money order, or does anyone know otherwise?

Edited by wizard 2015-06-18 10:43 AM
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Joe Mac
Posted 2015-11-16 1:51 PM (#495363 - in reply to #97802)
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I can't seem to download the Build Record order form from the FCA website. Anyone else having this problem? Hopefully they're still in business.
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wizard
Posted 2015-11-16 3:10 PM (#495371 - in reply to #97802)
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No problem, here's the link http://www.fcanorthamerica.com/company/Heritage/Heritage%20Document...

The service is reopened since the 1st of November...
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Joe Mac
Posted 2015-11-17 8:07 AM (#495418 - in reply to #97802)
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Thank you Sven, got it!
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green monster
Posted 2021-08-22 7:10 AM (#614374 - in reply to #97802)
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I need an updated source from Stellantis to order the IBM card for my car.
Has anybody ordered one since Stellantis took over?
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NicksGarage
Posted 2021-08-22 12:10 PM (#614381 - in reply to #614374)
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green monster - 2021-08-22 4:10 AM

I need an updated source from Stellantis to order the IBM card for my car.
Has anybody ordered one since Stellantis took over?


This is a message Danielle sent to someone in April 2021. Not sure if things have changed but her updated e-mail address is below.

I received your email at the FCA Historical Archives. We do offer a build record service, but at this time, we are unable to do the research needed to answer your request, due to corporate guidelines, and have limited physical access to the archival records. We are able to answer requests where we can remotely access the materials.
While we cannot provide a time frame as to when we will be able to assist you, I would expect that it will be towards the end of June, but there is no target date at this time. Please contact us back in the mid summer to see if the service has been renewed.
Thank you for your understanding on this matter. We look forward to being able to help our customers in the future.
Danielle Szostak-Viers
danielle.szostak@stellantis.com
Historical Services
CIMS 410-11-21
12501 Chrysler Freeway
Detroit, MI 48288
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