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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Can anyone out there decode these for me ? This is for my 1960 Chrysler Saratoga
Body tag SO Number Trim PNT
1029 0133 205 JK2
Vin # 82 05101006 thanks |
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Location: Vancouver, BC | imopar380 - 2008-07-16 9:01 PM
Can anyone out there decode these for me ? This is for my 1960 Chrysler Saratoga
Body tag SO Number Trim PNT
1029 0133 205 JK2
Vin # 82 05101006 thanks
Well, the serial number -
82 05101006
8 - Chrysler
2 - Saratoga
0 - 1960 model year
5 - Los Angeles, CA, plant
101006 - 1,006th 1960 car built at LA
1029 - Schedule built date - October 29 (1959)
1029 0133 - Shipping Order Number
205 - Interior Trim
(Do not have complete info)
JK2 - Paint
J - Roof colour - Seaspray Blue
K - Body Colour - Bluegrass Metallic
2 - Paint scheme - basic 2-tone
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Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Thanks Bill, I appreciate that. |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Bill, would you be so kind to help me with my numbers on my 1960 Saratoga?
SERIAL NUMBER VIN
8203 129829
Body Tag
5 2 8
SO NUMBER BDY TRM PNT
209 1351 824 205 LK2
Do you know what the numbers 5, 2 and 8 over the BDY, TRM and PNT means.
Thankful for your help,
Sven |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Sorry for this double post - found out too late that I needed to edit the post.
Bill, would you be so kind to help me with my numbers on my 1960 Saratoga?
SERIAL NUMBER VIN
8203 129829
Body Tag
........................5......2.....8
SO....NUMBER..BDY..TRM..PNT
209..1351........824..205...LK2
Do you know what the numbers 5, 2 and 8 over the BDY, TRM and PNT means.
Thankful for your help,
Sven
Edited by wizard 2008-07-18 1:57 PM
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Location: Vancouver, BC | wizard - 2008-07-18 10:55 AM
Sorry for this double post - found out too late that I needed to edit the post.
Bill, would you be so kind to help me with my numbers on my 1960 Saratoga?
SERIAL NUMBER VIN
8203 129829
Body Tag
........................5......2.....8
SO....NUMBER..BDY..TRM..PNT
209..1351........824..205...LK2
Do you know what the numbers 5, 2 and 8 over the BDY, TRM and PNT means.
Thankful for your help,
Sven
Sven,
First the serial number -
8203 129829
8 - Chrysler
2 - Saratoga
0 - 1960
3 - Jefferson Avenue plant (Detroit)
129829 - 29,829th 1960 car built at Jefferson Ave.
SO....NUMBER..BDY..TRM..PNT
209..1351........824..205...LK2
SO NUMBER - Shipping Order NUMBER
209 1351
where 209 is the scheduled build date -
February 9 (1960)
BDY - Body
8 - Chrysler
2 - Saratoga
4 - 4-door hardtop
TRM - Interior Trim (Dis some digging -
20 - Series and upholstery material (Do not have at present - vinyl, leather or cloth & vinyl)
5 - Colour - Turquoise
PNT - Exterior Paint Scheme -
L - Roof Colour - Sheffield Silver Metallic
K - Body Colour - Bluegrass Metallic
2 - Paint Scheme Style - Regular two tone
The numbers are for certain options on the car. There should be letters above the numbers, and the two together will determine the sales codes and thus the options.
The complete list of 1960 interior upholstery colours -
1 - Blue
2 - Green
3 - Beige, Tan or Brown *
4 - Grey or Red *
5 - Turquoise
6 - Dark Red
7 - Red or Off White *
8 - Black
9 - Off White
888 - Special Order
* - Which colour depends upon which car line
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Thanks Bill, I really appriciate your help. The original colour LK2 was a little surprise to me, I thought that I had Alaskan White for the roof with Ivy Green on the car - this based on a note in the Operating and Maintenance Guide (this explains why the note also says 305 hp) -now I understand that that guide was from an other car - a Windsor.
This also explains the slighty different colour tone in the door pillars, thrunk and engine compartment.
Now the only thing that puzzles me is the interior colour - do you know if the dashboard had the same colour as the body of the cars? Because I'm almost sure that the colour on the dashboard is in fact Bluegrass.
Again thanks a lot!
Sven
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | And, you are so correct that the numbers above the BDY, TRM and PNT should be combined with a letter;
N............T................Y
5............2................8
BDY........TRM............PNT
Can you decode that?
Thanks
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Location: Vancouver, BC | wizard - 2008-07-19 2:10 AM
And, you are so correct that the numbers above the BDY, TRM and PNT should be combined with a letter;
N............T................Y
5............2................8
BDY........TRM............PNT
Can you decode that?
Thanks
Sven
N = Heater/Defroster/AC
5 : 315 - Front Heater / Defroster
T = Radio
2 : 422 Astrophonic Radio
Y = ??
8 : ??
Not sure what Y represents, but below are the sales codes that I know of that end in 8 -
298 - Power (vacuum) door locks
348 - Flite-Sweep deck lid
388 - Vanity mirror
588 - Undercoating with underhood pad
Any of them fit?
By the way, Alaskan White over Ivy Green Metallic is WG2.
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Thanks again Bill! There is 2 things that fits;
A) Most probably the vanity mirror (there was old impressions when I got the car but then the mirror was missing - now I've got another mirror)
B) Undercoating (? can see some remains?) with underhood pad (yes that's there)
But then again, I miss one option that is sport tone (de luxe) trim for the side trims, that's still a riddle for me.
Regards,
Sven |
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Location: bishop, ca | Sven, if your car was factory-undercoated, there should be a lot of evidence of its application, on the undercarriage/floor
pans.
A factory-undercoated car did NOT get any undercoating applied to its frame rails; the body-pan was undercoated before
the body was 'dropped' onto the assembled chassis----undercoating on the frame-rails indicates that that material was applied
sometime after the car was built.
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Thanks Neil! I will check that hint soonest possible! |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Now I checked the undercoating Neil! It's a bit strange, but it seems to have been laid only on the rear part of the car - only under the subframe, but not at the floor boards under the subframe.
The undercoating is the same "gunk" that I found on the floor in the car. So both possibilities is plausible - factory or after delivery. Then as I said erlier, I DO have the underhood pad. |
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Location: bishop, ca | Sven, can you get your car onto a lift, & post some ics of its undercarriage condition?
Clive Reeve (Rebels 59 on this site) can post jpegs that are sent to him by non-nerds (like me) who don't know how
to post pics.
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | I don't have a lift closeby Neil, I'll try anyhow to get some pictures. |
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Chrycoman, does these codes mean anything for you - from a 1960 Chrysler
1234567890
3
Could that 3 stand for a package?
C4
L8
X3
Really puzzled by this
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Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | wizard - 2008-09-29 3:56 PM
Chrycoman, does these codes mean anything for you - from a 1960 Chrysler
1234567890
3
Could that 3 stand for a package?
C4
L8
X3
Really puzzled by this
I have concluded that the C is Power Equipment and 4 stands for 294 - power windows. The rest is still totally unclear |
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