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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-07 7:15 PM (#513523)
Subject: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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My 300F was sold new at Roy Burnett Motors, Inc. in Portland Oregon. In order to research the dealer I signed up for an account for the Oregonian Archives. I have about 100 lookups left on my account.

If you know the dealer that sold your car, I could do the lookups and send the PDF results.

Nick.
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61_Imperial
Posted 2016-06-07 8:09 PM (#513531 - in reply to #513523)
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My car spent some time there I think, but was sold new in Boise, Idaho.
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Posted 2016-06-08 8:39 PM (#513634 - in reply to #513523)
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My car was sold new at Billingsley Motors in Portland, yes!

This is all the info I have about the dealership: the Chrysler Historical record showing it was shipped to Portland from LA, and sold new there.

Interestingly (or not) the car was in Jacksonville, Florida when I found it and now resides in Texas. It's been all over the map. Thanks.

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Posted 2016-06-08 11:41 PM (#513650 - in reply to #513634)
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That's a very late build car. Here's an ad from September 12, 1957 when they're already clearing out the 1957s. A funny read.




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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 12:03 AM (#513654 - in reply to #513523)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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Looks like they were one of the original Plymouth dealers in the country when Plymouth started. The building on Hawthorne is still there. I found a 1922 ad where they were selling GMC trucks a block away.




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hemidenis
Posted 2016-06-09 12:41 AM (#513657 - in reply to #513523)
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something I could never find was and add for my dealer in Norfolk, Va
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 12:47 AM (#513658 - in reply to #513657)
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hemidenis - 2016-06-08 9:41 PM

something I could never find was and add for my dealer in Norfolk, Va


Newspaper archives are a great thing if they have them online. Otherwise you could check the library for that city to see if they have archives scanned in or on microfiche.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 12:56 AM (#513659 - in reply to #513523)
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More info on Billingsley. It appears that they switched to Pontiac in 1935. But in 1955 GM took their franchise away. It was front page news on December 1, 1955. They bought out a Packard dealership and appear to have switched back to Plymouth soon after.




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56300B
Posted 2016-06-09 12:59 AM (#513660 - in reply to #513523)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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Nick,

Interesting that my 61 NYer was sold new at Roy Burnett also. I have the window sticker and new car delivery documents from early January 61 along with the license plate frames. Small world......................

Arland
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 1:12 AM (#513661 - in reply to #513523)
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This is from May 3, 1956




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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 1:15 AM (#513663 - in reply to #513660)
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Nick,

Interesting that my 61 NYer was sold new at Roy Burnett also. I have the window sticker and new car delivery documents from early January 61 along with the license plate frames. Small world......................

Arland


Arland,

That is super cool! I'd like to see those documents and a picture of the license plate frame. I'm trying to find some for my car.

Nick.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 1:57 AM (#513667 - in reply to #513523)
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Here's the last post for Billingsley. It looks like they changed their name to Billingsley Motors in July 1960. They had an ad in April 1962 for their going out of business sale. They were still selling Executive cars so they may have still been an official dealer. The last ad I could find for them was in August 1962 where they are selling a 1961 Imperial executive car. Then the last item I could find was an article from 1966 about the state removing old business signs and they mention Billingsley Motors.

Here is a link to the PDF files I downloaded where these items came from. https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxCSRHQc5k3-WnNVX2xHemRlQ28&...





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57burb
Posted 2016-06-09 10:59 AM (#513689 - in reply to #513650)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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Well, this is just amazing.


NicksGarage - 2016-06-08 10:41 PM

That's a very late build car. Here's an ad from September 12, 1957 when they're already clearing out the 1957s. A funny read.


This ^^ ad was posted about three weeks after my car was shipped. I would guess that my Suburban was one of the "67 Other '57 Plymouths at Sale Prices" being referred to.

Nick, thank you very much for taking a look. I'll buy a round of drinks next time I'm in southern California. Cheers!




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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 11:59 AM (#513697 - in reply to #513689)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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57burb - 2016-06-09 7:59 AM

Well, this is just amazing.


NicksGarage - 2016-06-08 10:41 PM

That's a very late build car. Here's an ad from September 12, 1957 when they're already clearing out the 1957s. A funny read.


This ^^ ad was posted about three weeks after my car was shipped. I would guess that my Suburban was one of the "67 Other '57 Plymouths at Sale Prices" being referred to.

Nick, thank you very much for taking a look. I'll buy a round of drinks next time I'm in southern California. Cheers!




No problem, it was fun.

I wonder why your decode shows Oklahoma on it. Maybe it was shipped there first and then transferred to the selling dealer?
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56300B
Posted 2016-06-09 1:10 PM (#513712 - in reply to #513523)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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Nick,

Here is a previous thread regarding my window sticker dealer info. I'll post some pictures of the other stuff when I can.


http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=50242&... sticker&highlightmode=1#M417909

Arland
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 1:14 PM (#513713 - in reply to #513712)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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Nick,

Here is a previous thread regarding my window sticker dealer info. I'll post some pictures of the other stuff when I can.


http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=50242&... sticker&highlightmode=1#M417909

Arland


Thanks. Interesting that your car got redirected. I wonder if that's what happened to the '57 Suburban above.

I like how the window sticker has the model names in the background. I wonder if the 1960 one looks similar.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 1:16 PM (#513714 - in reply to #513713)
Subject: RE: Was your car sold new in Portland, Oregon?



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56300B - 2016-06-09 10:10 AM

Nick,

Here is a previous thread regarding my window sticker dealer info. I'll post some pictures of the other stuff when I can.


http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=50242&... sticker&highlightmode=1#M417909

Arland


Thanks. Interesting that your car got redirected. I wonder if that's what happened to the '57 Suburban above.

I like how the window sticker has the model names in the background. I wonder if the 1960 one looks similar.


This answers my question about the window sticker - http://www.forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3920
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T-34
Posted 2016-06-09 1:24 PM (#513715 - in reply to #513523)
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My Desoto 59 was sold new at Hart Brothers, Tillamook Portland Oregon
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 1:50 PM (#513720 - in reply to #513715)
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T-34 - 2016-06-09 10:24 AM

My Desoto 59 was sold new at Hart Brothers, Tillamook Portland Oregon
Magnus


Tillamook isn't that close to Portland but I'll take a look
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 2:28 PM (#513722 - in reply to #513523)
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Nothing for Hart Brothers in Tillamook. Sorry.
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Posted 2016-06-09 3:29 PM (#513727 - in reply to #513523)
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Thanks for trying.
I was in touch with the first "private" owner of the car and he told me he bougth the car at "Alexanders Desoto/Plymouth Dealerships" used car located on Portlands East Sandy Boulevard.

The car had prior to end up at Alexanders it has been a demonstrator car and had belonged to the local Sheriffs auxiliary and have had a sirene mounted just ahead of the radiator.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-09 4:08 PM (#513734 - in reply to #513727)
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T-34 - 2016-06-09 12:29 PM

Thanks for trying.
I was in touch with the first "private" owner of the car and he told me he bougth the car at "Alexanders Desoto/Plymouth Dealerships" used car located on Portlands East Sandy Boulevard.

The car had prior to end up at Alexanders it has been a demonstrator car and had belonged to the local Sheriffs auxiliary and have had a sirene mounted just ahead of the radiator.
Magnus


Do you know the date they bought it? And details about the car so I can look in the used car ads?
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Posted 2016-06-09 4:19 PM (#513736 - in reply to #513523)
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I added a couple Alexandar ads from 1959 to the folder here - https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BxCSRHQc5k3-WnNVX2xHemRlQ28&...
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Posted 2016-06-10 12:39 AM (#513791 - in reply to #513523)
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Mine was sold brand new from Thomas Motor company in Burlington , IA. Its in the process of getting a face lift . That is my way of saying its under restoration. I would like to know who the original owner is.

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Posted 2016-06-10 2:18 PM (#513833 - in reply to #513523)
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Thanks for the info Nick.
The first private owner bougt the car from Alexanders in early January 1961, it has 29.000miles on the ODO and he paid 2.100 dollars for it.
When delivered to Hart Brothers it was probably a "Drive away" car and went as a demonstrator car before landing at Alexanders owners wife who used the car until it was sold to the man who was the "first"
private owner.
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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-10 5:26 PM (#513841 - in reply to #513523)
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No luck finding a match at Alexandar's but here are some ads from late 1960, early 1961 with similar cars.




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Posted 2016-06-22 10:24 PM (#514813 - in reply to #513523)
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My 300G was sold new at Barker in Eugene, OR. I have the original plate frames.
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56300B
Posted 2016-06-25 12:41 AM (#515036 - in reply to #513523)
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Nick,

Here's a shot of the Roy Burnett Chrysler license plate frame. It's faded and a little worse for wear but you can see the what the colors should be. They have appeared on ebay a couple of times over the last few years.

Arland



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NicksGarage
Posted 2016-06-29 3:45 PM (#515474 - in reply to #515036)
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56300B - 2016-06-24 9:41 PM

Nick,

Here's a shot of the Roy Burnett Chrysler license plate frame. It's faded and a little worse for wear but you can see the what the colors should be. They have appeared on ebay a couple of times over the last few years.

Arland


Thanks for posting that! Does it have hooks on the back for the bottom of the plate? I've got a saved search on Ebay to try and find some.

Nick.
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Posted 2016-06-30 12:45 PM (#515550 - in reply to #515474)
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The frame has one of the two clips still on it to hold the plate to the frame. Seems like someone could reproduce these out of spring steel if there was a significant demand - which there isn't.
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Posted 2016-06-30 1:47 PM (#515559 - in reply to #513523)
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Need them to make it work with the gas door. I saw the plymouth one on ebay, it's reversed from the Chrysler one with the dealer name and clips on the top.
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