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wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13045 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | When I mounted my upholstered manual bench seat on my newly renovated 6-way power seat, I found out that they don't fit together very well. The problem is that a manual seat has a higher frame, mainly in the rear fixation points - as a result of that, the manual seat will always be too high and to upright as for the backrest. I temporarely solved this by adding spacers on the front fixation points, but the inclination of the backrest was still too upright. As some extra cream on that cake, I also found out that the 6-way switch could not be mounted due to lack of the cut-up in the seatframe and the vinyl. I had to let the switch lay on the floor and drove this season with the seat just as it was. Before cutting up and chop my seatframe, I made various trials to get a seatframe from a true 6 way seat and just as I finally got a good offer from one of the good-guys here, then I found out by measuring the 6-way seat in a '60 New Yorker that my seatcover just would'nt fit on such a frame. Sence morale; If you want a 6-way power seat - be sure to get both the undercarriage and the correct benchseat for a power seat - THEN re-upholster what you have. The long way??? Chop the seat frame 30 mm (1.181 inches) in the rear fixation points and cut up a hole for the 6-way switch, make a frame around the cut-up for to be able to fix and glue the vinyl around the edges of the hole. See the enclosed pictures (Resize of Chop measure.JPG) (Resize of IMG_3455.jpg) (Resize of IMG_3458.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Resize of Chop measure.JPG (41KB - 210 downloads) Resize of IMG_3455.jpg (53KB - 205 downloads) Resize of IMG_3458.jpg (50KB - 164 downloads) | ||
crvsir |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 967 Location: Canada | Not 100% but I think 6 way power seat cars had the floor panels recessed on both sides....... | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7206 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | crvsir - 2008-10-23 3:08 PM Not 100% but I think 6 way power seat cars had the floor panels recessed on both sides....... On the 1960 and up models, the power seat did not use recessed floor panels as on the earlier models, rather the seat frame itself was shorter in height, as Wizard says, on the power seat models. I found this out exactly like Wizard did, when I first installed a power seat track on my former 1960 Dodge Polara. It worked fine, and, unlike Sven I was able to mount the switch with No Problem into the aluminum side frame of the seat. However the seat sat much too high when it was in the top most position. I always kept it in the low, rearward tilt position which was fine for myself. Now, if you happen to have a 1960-61 model with swivel seats, or the 1962 Chrysler 300 with the three-section front seats, the manual and power seat uses the same frame as the power seat, but the manual seat has extra U-shaped brackets spot welded on the rear mounting points to keep it in the higher position. These brackets can easily be removed to allow the seat to sit at the correct height. When I owned my former 1962 Chrysler 300, I ground off the welded brackets when I installed the power seat frame onto my own seats, so it sat at the correct height. It was a very simple job on that car. My current 1960 Chrysler Saratoga already had the Power Swivel seat option from factory, so I didn't have to do the conversion ! Edited by imopar380 2008-10-23 10:18 PM | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13045 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Aah, good of you to mention the bracket on the swivel seat Ian! I also knew this but forgot to write about it. As for the 6-way switch, I used the original power seat bezel with a reinforcement inside for the mounting of the switch - that's why there's no room for the switch. If one use the standard bezel and make a mount, then as you say there might just be enough space for to mount it. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7206 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Sven, I did not make a mount for the switch on my 1960 Polara, I also used the aluminum side trim from the original power seat, that had the bracket attached inside it, and used it on my own seat. I had no problems with it not having enough room to be mounted there, as you mentioned. I wonder what the difference was between my Dodge seat and your seat if this is the case ? | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13045 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Then there must be a big difference between Chrysler and Dodge Ian, here's a couple of photos showing how much the switch is protruding from the bezel and the cut-up hole in the bench seat frame. (Resize of IMG_3460.jpg) (Resize of IMG_3461.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Resize of IMG_3460.jpg (34KB - 208 downloads) Resize of IMG_3461.jpg (41KB - 211 downloads) | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7206 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | I wish I could remember more... but I know I didn't have to go to any length to make the switch fit. The car has now been converted to swivel seats, so I can't even look at it to see how it was done. | ||
wizard |
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13045 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | I mounted the "chopped" benchseat and it's really perfect as for adjustment of height and inclination. The last photo shows the full backward tilt in comparison with the sill plate. Edited by wizard 2009-01-07 1:22 PM (Resize of IMG_3654.jpg) (Resize of IMG_3655.jpg) (Resize of IMG_3657.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Resize of IMG_3654.jpg (88KB - 178 downloads) Resize of IMG_3655.jpg (71KB - 172 downloads) Resize of IMG_3657.jpg (68KB - 197 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Bump... how about putting a power 57 Chrysler 4 door seat into a 57 dodge 2dr? Will it fit? | ||
miquelonbrad |
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Expert Posts: 1737 Location: Hay Lakes, Alberta, Canada | Only if your Dodge has the recessed floor pan channels. The power seat tracks were the same. | ||
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