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hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | As you can see in the video, every car in here has Disc brake conversions, or they could not drive in this heavy traffic. Drums are useless ha! | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | yeah as long as no one can go over 10 mph, everyones safe!... your actually hurting your own sarcasm... I mean start swapping out Ferrari brakes for drums... those dumb airplanes should switch to drums also! They are much better | ||
58coupe |
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Expert Posts: 1740 Location: Alaska | Hey watch what you criticize! My airplane has drum brakes! My 69 Charger had HD drum brakes 11x3 front 11x2 1/2 rear and it stopped just fine. | ||
imopar380 |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7206 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | When I was a kid, friends of my parents moved to SoCal for several years. They owned a 58 Buick and would regale me with tales of driving the SoCal freeways at 95 MPH in that car, this was now in the mid sixties. They still had the car until the early 70s. | ||
GregCon |
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | Drums work well, especially when they're in good shape and adjusted properly. Discs, for sure, are more modern in that they require far less attention. | ||
big m |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7806 Location: Williams California | The main benefit to disc brakes is they do not fade after prolonged braking. In any normal driving situations, drum brakes work just fine if in good shape. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | lets not forget about performance please Yes if your only going for a cruise or to the store they do work fine enough for a while until they need adjusted/maintained. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9650 Location: So. Cal | Modern freeways with modern traffic clowns requires modern brakes. Most of the time, you would be fine with drums, but under certain conditions, you really aren't. LA traffic is one of those conditions. I have had far too many close calls to trust my car to front drums. I have driven my cars with drums for a while, but in the end, they just aren't quite adequate. On one occasion, I was driving the '58 Coronet 75mph in the fast lane on the 101 freeway with very little traffic, coming up over a hill. Once I got to the other side of the hill, I found that traffic was dead stopped. My 12" disc brakes in front & 12" drums out back stopped me with about 3 ft to spare. The car behind me had to swerve onto the shoulder to avoid hitting me. I am sure if I had the original drum brakes during that event, that my '58 Coronet wouldn't have fared very well. Some things are just not worth keeping unless you only drive your car in small town, low speed traffic, or slowly on the right side of the freeway. That's not how I like to drive. | ||
uncltank |
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Extreme Veteran Posts: 380 Location: Kennewick Wa | Are we really doing this again!!?? | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | The best plan is to install one disc to the right front, and one to the left rear, leaving the original drums on the opposing positions. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | . Yeah drum brakes are the future... Attachments ---------------- th.jpeg (20KB - 145 downloads) | ||
Doctor DeSoto |
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Location: Parts Unknown | Electric traction motors are the future. All this old car nonsense is just that, NONSENSE. Go buy a Chevy Volt and get with "the future" before it leaves you in the past ! And as long as we're "getting with it", let's all take a big bite of that "sh!t sandwich" the world is telling us is so delicious too ! Gotta stay hip and trendy. F@ck the past. | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9650 Location: So. Cal | Chevy Volt is already outdated. A Chevy Bolt is more like what the future dictates. | ||
GregCon |
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Expert Posts: 2524 Location: Houston | Even with discs, a FL car is not really able to handle modern traffic IMO. A car with drum brakes has a wonderful pedal feel that is very tough to match with discs. That's due to the self-energizing aspect of drums. All that said...discs win out in the end. But I find most people who rag on drums are under 35 years old and get their information from magazines rather than the real world. | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Hah you guys cant stop the hate on the Volt... I know Fox news attacked it daily but they are tanks. Keep up the hate and the car isn't even made anymore, you need to "modernize" your biases I would rock a Tesla though, much nicer ride. F@ck the future! Were talking about stupid outdated junk drum brakes... I think you guys should rip out your bathrooms and go back to outhouses and coal fired stoves, we can get rid of electricity also... You can bring ice in your iceboxes... | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | Junk old carburetors, junk old brakes, junk old fuel, junk old cars, junk old torsion bars....Thanks God some of you guys are not in to junk old steam cars... | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | its called "hasty generalizations" nice try now your trying to extrapolate a insult to brake drums to all old cars... slow down there Denis Edited by mikes2nd 2019-01-24 12:34 AM | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | Drive normal! Leave room! and you will be fine! I drive in city traffic and stop fine! Just drive with the fact that the car is old in mind! Not a new Car! | ||
old mopar guy |
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Expert Posts: 1508 Location: new york | Pretty cool some guy driving a Ford A in that traffic! | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7393 Location: northern germany | Yes, posted that vid 8 years ago and some others, meanwhile there is a complete version of that 60 Sonoramic power-clog video. http://forwardlook.net/forums/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=34310&post... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=54G4jidxmzw&t=85s Edited by 1960fury 2019-01-28 7:06 PM | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | old mopar guy - 2019-01-28 4:31 PM Drive normal! Leave room! and you will be fine! I drive in city traffic and stop fine! Just drive with the fact that the car is old in mind! Not a new Car!
Oh your going to leave a gap in between the car in front of you??? Well.let me just put my car in that space and then slam on my brakes! I'm winning! | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | I would go with a conversion if I can't fix my drums, or I purchase a car with the drums frozen..but it is still a hit or miss conversion. Too many things to replace, and none can guarantee the correct performance. Sorry, no deal dear disc brake guys... Like Victor said, just keep the distance and drive accordingly. Some guys in here, I swear they are taking their cars to the Indy 500.. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7393 Location: northern germany | As I said many times before, the OE brakes work well back then and today, maybe they stop even better than discs at slow and normal speeds, since they are self energized, but if you drive fast, disc are a must, not to mention the benefit of unsprung/rotating mass reduction. I had to make a panik stop once in a 61 Desoto loaded with a 3 passengers and a full tank of gas and luggage driving 120 or 130 mph approaching a traffic jam behind a curve on the Autobahn (a Jaguar XK120 challenged us and we left it behind:). We made it but towards the end the brakes started to fade and you could smell them. I do not even mention the smaller brakes in my 60 Fury that is alot faster than the Desoto. If you want to enjoy all the horses ma Mopar gave you, discs are the way to go. Edited by 1960fury 2019-01-29 9:49 AM | ||
Apollo 61 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 769 | I got this 62 300 that was still registered on the the road a few years ago. The brakes failed, not the drums but the single master cyl. Here is a pic of the results. (You will have to click on attachment ) I'm going to replace the stock brake drums with larger drums from a 63 300. I want maintain a stock look with the original wheels and hubcaps. its not the drums that worry me but single master cyls giving out. What do guys think of just converting the master cyl to a dual and leaving the drums?? Attachments ---------------- image.jpeg (216KB - 150 downloads) | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | Im sure they will go "nothing wrong with single!"... my grandpa used em and never died... this is a stupid discussion. I have seen people who had 50's cars white knuckled in traffic because people drive nuts. Ditch the drums for a couple hundred and the master cylinder if you intend on driving the car in modern day traffic. Single master cylinders are the best! I also like the not wear seatbelts and change out my dash with metal rusty spikes! | ||
hemidenis |
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Expert Posts: 3887 Location: Northen Virginia | mikes2nd - 2019-01-29 1:12 AM Im sure they will go "nothing wrong with single!"... my grandpa used em and never died... this is a stupid discussion. I have seen people who had 50's cars white knuckled in traffic because people drive nuts. Ditch the drums for a couple hundred and the master cylinder if you intend on driving the car in modern day traffic. Single master cylinders are the best! I also like the not wear seatbelts and change out my dash with metal rusty spikes! Mike, what type of brakes do you have? | ||
Apollo 61 |
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Elite Veteran Posts: 769 | Mike , Just got back from the scrapyard. Dragged this home me today. Couldn't let this get scrapped. Would make a good a dash pad for your ride. (Sarcasm) click on attachment Edited by Apollo 61 2019-01-29 7:56 PM Attachments ---------------- image.jpeg (232KB - 160 downloads) | ||
ABloch |
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Expert Posts: 1476 Location: Pacific Northwest | While we're on the topic of conversions..... I'm thinking of installing side curtain airbags in the Newport. Anyone done this yet? Edited by ABloch 2019-01-29 9:34 PM | ||
mikes2nd |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 5006 | I have scarebirds with a dual master... Side curtain airbags are a b*tch, I will have front air bags in my 70 gto. If you want side airbags go for the "in the seat" ones. They are stock in my 2004 caddy seats. I probably wont be hooking them up though
Side impact collisions have a higher chance at killing you but happen less often. 55% frontal vs 16% tbone deaths
https://www.iihs.org/iihs/topics/t/general-statistics/fatalityfacts/passenger-vehicles
Edited by mikes2nd 2019-01-29 11:29 PM | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | Disk brakes don't equal 'safety', ya know? Drums are fine if you keep them maintained well and don't drive like a lunatic. And even then.... ya just never know. Watch the crazy crash videos on youtube, you're never truly safe. Be careful out there! (IMG_20180614_100651_269~2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- IMG_20180614_100651_269~2.jpg (193KB - 122 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9650 Location: So. Cal | What's this car in the video? A '46 Buick maybe? I really like the look of that one. (WhatIsThis.jpg) Attachments ---------------- WhatIsThis.jpg (86KB - 124 downloads) | ||
57burb |
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Expert Posts: 3967 Location: DFW, TX | '46-48 Buick sedanette | ||
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