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Sonoramic60
Posted 2019-12-30 10:43 PM (#592264 - in reply to #592254)
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I'm almost positive the bottom pic was taken during the 1959 Pikes Peak Hill Climb close to an area called "The Devil's Playground." The race is next to the Indianapolis 500 as the United States' oldest motorsport event, its first running being in 1916. Since Pikes [note: no apostrophe] Peak is virtually in my backyard here in Colorado Springs, I have been up it a few times but it seems that every time I drive up, I get stuck behind some "flatland tourister" who's on his brakes ALL the time -- even going uphill!
BTW, the road is paved all the way now, but because construction at the top has drastically reduced parking, you have to ride a shuttle bus during the tourist season.
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56D500boy
Posted 2019-12-30 10:59 PM (#592265 - in reply to #592264)
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Sonoramic60 - 2019-12-30 7:43 PM

Lads --
I'm almost positive the bottom pic was taken during the 1959 Pikes Peak Hill Climb close to an area called "The Devil's Playground."


This one (it's on pg. 308, this is now pg. 309):



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Ray Bell
Posted 2019-12-30 11:12 PM (#592266 - in reply to #81647)
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Yes, it's sealed all the way, and has a centreline and room enough on each side of the centreline for cars to pass. But not many fences at all...

And, with some steep drops, a variety of bends, and all those cyclists (!!) pedalling furiously to reach the top, when you're going around a big
left-hander and you look out through the windscreen across the dash and all you can see is blue skies and the tops of clouds, I decided it was daunting.

Then I went to Mt Evans. About the same height, it was sealed a lot earlier (like 30-40 years earlier) and to a different standard, similar bends,
same amount of fences (or less), that one had me thinking I should turn around and go back. Four times I let my desire to get to the top prevent me doing this.

That one wasn't daunting, it was intimidating.

But with both you've got to love that you can look down on the Rocky Mountains, and that you can see so far into the distance when there's a clear day.

And you've got to envy those cyclists at the speeds they get up to on the way down!

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1960fury
Posted 2019-12-31 7:04 AM (#592286 - in reply to #81647)
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I knew that you'd dig the photo, Joe
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Posted 2019-12-31 7:22 AM (#592291 - in reply to #592286)
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1960fury
Posted 2019-12-31 7:32 AM (#592292 - in reply to #81647)
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Sonoramic60
Posted 2019-12-31 9:42 AM (#592299 - in reply to #592292)
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Lads --
The pic with the puddle was taken at Glen Cove which is the staging area for the race which actually starts about a mile or so further up.
Incidently, the video talks about Bobby Unser of Albuquerque whose dad, Louie, was named "King of the Hill" because of all the times he won. Bobby, of course, didn't do too badly himself but he and his brother Al are more noted for their USAC indy car work. BTW, the winning time last year was about eight minutes.
As side note, my wife and I spent the 1970s in Albuquerque and she taught school there. Two of her pupils were Al Jr. and Bobby Jr. She says they were nice little boys but were rather difficult pupils as even in the first and second grades they really had no scholastic interests at all as all they wanted to do was to be race car drivers like their dads.
And Perkins Motor Co. is still in business and one of the sponsors of the climb, although the company founder, Will Perkins, just passed away a few months ago. Even when he was in his later years he took an interest in FWL cars and the first time I took the Big-Tailed Beast in for a lube job, someone told him about it. He told the service manager not to let me leave until he came from home to see the car. He was a pretty cool guy when it came to those old MOPARs.
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Posted 2019-12-31 10:50 AM (#592302 - in reply to #592292)
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One in colour: The 1957 Pikes Peak race featuring a 57 Plymouth in competition and a 56 Dodge (and others) as a spectator's car.

"No Margin For Error"

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Ray Bell
Posted 2020-01-06 7:03 PM (#592557 - in reply to #81647)
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Amazing the things you notice...

This is a Simca Vedette, probably an early Brazilian production model, sitting on the front of the grid alongside Alex Ribiero's home-built
VW-based special and another car. Driver of the Ribiero car is Nelson Piquet.



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Posted 2020-01-24 5:31 AM (#593371 - in reply to #592557)
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Posted 2020-01-24 10:54 AM (#593374 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2020-01-26 1:43 PM (#593415 - in reply to #81647)
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I purchased these '56 Plym postcards from Jrdudeman here and thought I would share them with this thread in high resolution. I really like these pictures. Hard to get dead-on side shots like this with no background.



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soiouz
Posted 2020-01-27 4:43 PM (#593478 - in reply to #81647)
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A bunch of photos from Montreal and the province of Quebec, Canada:



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58 DESOTOS RULE
Posted 2020-01-28 4:17 PM (#593524 - in reply to #81647)
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Any more information on this dealer and his 3-wheel stunt with a 1957 Plymouth?

 



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soiouz
Posted 2020-02-04 11:09 AM (#593789 - in reply to #81647)
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Un fortunately, no, but I wish I had more info!


Translation of the markings on the car say:

"With Plymouth, you are safe even on 3 wheels!"


"No need for this wheel"


The dealer was a Plymouth, Chrysler, Imperial dealership, in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec.
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Posted 2020-02-04 1:16 PM (#593796 - in reply to #81647)
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This was a MoPar stunt that they did for to show off the torsion bars. They had to adjust them accordingly or to mount one heavy duty torsion bar. Here is a Chrysler '60 were it's obvious what theyy did.



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Posted 2020-02-04 1:31 PM (#593797 - in reply to #81647)
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That Plymouth looks like it needs help as it is stuck on the tracks with the bumper digging into the road.
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Posted 2020-02-04 3:24 PM (#593802 - in reply to #81647)
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There is a Video on YT where you can see them driving with 3 wheels. IIRC 60 Chryslers.
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Posted 2020-02-04 4:42 PM (#593806 - in reply to #593802)
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1960fury - 2020-02-04 12:24 PM

There is a Video on YT where you can see them driving with 3 wheels. IIRC 60 Chryslers.


This:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaipkRqI-hA

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Posted 2020-02-04 4:49 PM (#593808 - in reply to #81647)
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....with 2000 lbs of ballast in the trunk!
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Ray Bell
Posted 2020-02-04 6:32 PM (#593811 - in reply to #593796)
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Originally posted by wizard
[This was a MoPar stunt that they did for to show off the torsion bars.....


Actually, as it explains in the video, to show off the strength of unibody construction. Or to answer detractors to it.

Torsion bars were then in their fourth year in the Forward Look cars, the unibody construction was all-new.
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Posted 2020-02-04 8:05 PM (#593813 - in reply to #81647)
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I believe he was referring to the '57 Plymouth, not the '60 Chrysler.
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Posted 2020-02-04 9:28 PM (#593814 - in reply to #81647)
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I think he was referring to the whole phase of publicity...

However, it is a good point that the '57 was involved because it wasn't unibody.

It does say in the video that the purpose was to prove the integrity of they unibody construction.
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1960fury
Posted 2020-02-09 2:29 PM (#593985 - in reply to #593478)
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soiouz - 2020-01-27 4:43 PM

A bunch of photos from Montreal and the province of Quebec, Canada:



Wonderful photos! Note the 60 "Savoy" wagon with Belvedere/Fury moldings!

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Posted 2020-02-09 11:23 PM (#593996 - in reply to #593985)
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Posted 2020-02-15 6:08 AM (#594297 - in reply to #593996)
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Sweden Dealer Saab-ANA in Town Kalmar, spring 1960



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Posted 2020-02-15 6:29 AM (#594298 - in reply to #81647)
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Thanks' Jocke - fantastic photo!

We had a car down here that most probably was bought there. It was a '60 Seneca 4DS that was parked just after the free speed limit was cancelled. The owner told me that he travelled much back and forth to Stockholm on gravel roads and the car had a fair amount of rusted out body panels to prove it.
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Posted 2020-02-16 2:56 PM (#594376 - in reply to #594298)
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wizard - 2020-02-15 6:29 AM

Thanks' Jocke - fantastic photo!

We had a car down here that most probably was bought there. It was a '60 Seneca 4DS that was parked just after the free speed limit was cancelled. The owner told me that he travelled much back and forth to Stockholm on gravel roads and the car had a fair amount of rusted out body panels to prove it.


fun that you like the photo. and nice story
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This is a picture of my Dad's 58 Fireflite circa 1962 in Worcester Ma. Always loved this picture...



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Posted 2020-03-07 11:16 AM (#595362 - in reply to #81647)
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Nice car. What were the original colors on it? What is the black spot near the rear window - maybe the rear antennae? But I expected it to be further back. I notice one blackwall and one small whitewall after only 4 years. This was probably typical once large whitewalls went out of style.
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Posted 2020-03-07 1:22 PM (#595369 - in reply to #81647)
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On the 58 Fireflite tires above, remember tires only lasted 12-15,000 miles back then, so a 4 year old car was easily past it's original tire life. I remember my dad buying blackwalls because they cost a little less than whitewalls, too.
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Where I grew up, only the purist lovers of their old car kept them tired in wide
whites. Most old cars fell into the hands of people who didn't care and did their
car ownership on the cheap, resulting in ugly tires and cars slowly allowed to go
to seed. But the owners who did keep their cars properly tired tended to take
really good care of them, period .... driving around old time capsules that inspired
minds like mine to a life of chasing rusty junk !
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Posted 2020-03-08 11:24 AM (#595403 - in reply to #595384)
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Doctor DeSoto - 2020-03-07 5:29 PM

Where I grew up, only the purist lovers of their old car kept them tired in wide
whites. Most old cars fell into the hands of people who didn't care and did their
car ownership on the cheap, resulting in ugly tires and cars slowly allowed to go
to seed. But the owners who did keep their cars properly tired tended to take
really good care of them, period .... driving around old time capsules that inspired
minds like mine to a life of chasing rusty junk !


There was a period between 1962 or so, and the mid to late seventies when there were NO wide whitewalls being produced. I owned my 1960 Polara from 1974 through 1995. It had one inch bias ply whitewalls at the time I bought it, and a couple of more sets before I bought a set of bias ply Remington wide whites that came out in the late seventies I believe. Then when those wore out I bought another set of one inch bias ply whitewalls, because there was a detail shop in town that had a sidewall cutter, and for $5.00 per tire I had the whitewalls cut out to just over 2 inches. Those were still on the car when I sold it in 1995 but were getting pretty worn. The current owner of the car, my good friend Ron has a set of American Classics 2 1/4" whitewalls on it now.
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Posted 2020-03-08 2:40 PM (#595411 - in reply to #81647)
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My '60 Fury came off the lot in May 1960 with the wide Goodrich (I think) whitewalls (approx. 3") but with that big engine coupled with 4.10 gears, they didn't last overly long. In 1962, the narrow whites came out and since I thought they looked cool, I replaced the factory skins with the new style. In 1964, the '65 Sport Fury I bought had the narrow whites, but I replaced them with a set of Goodyear Blue Streaks which had a medium blue band about a half-inch wide. The Sport Fury, in turn, was replaced by a '67 R/T which had Goodrich Redlines. If I remember, those Redlines came out as an option for the early Goats (perhaps even the '65 or even the '64) and were quite the thing at the time. Gold lines were an option on the '65 Corvette but they never really caught on.
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It's not a great black and white photo, and that black spot is just a bad spot on the picture. I have a better one of him in the car, but I need to dig it out from the photo collections one of these days. I was recently talking to my mom and she said it was white with a (light?) green stripe and top. It was before I was born so I don't remember and my oldest sibling was only 6.
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Ray Bell
Posted 2020-03-09 6:35 PM (#595440 - in reply to #81647)
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Below is the Fireflite pic with a bit of clarity added courtesy of 15 seconds with Irfanview. Also reduced in size so it doesn't make it hard to read the page.

Additionally, there's a pic of a '56 Dodge in El Salvadore, taken in 1960.



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soiouz
Posted 2020-03-16 10:36 PM (#595658 - in reply to #81647)
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Photo taken in Montreal, Quebec, in 1960, with a 1958 Chrysler 300D convertible parked on the right!



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soiouz
Posted 2020-03-30 11:37 AM (#596235 - in reply to #81647)
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Wonderful selection of pictures from the Carnegie Museum of Art photo collection: https://cmoa.org/





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Posted 2020-03-30 5:31 PM (#596252 - in reply to #596235)
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soiouz - 2020-03-30 11:37 AM

Wonderful selection of pictures from the Carnegie Museum of Art photo collection: https://cmoa.org/



Wow!!! Never saw those before! Thanks for sharing!
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Ray Bell
Posted 2020-03-31 11:48 AM (#596291 - in reply to #81647)
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Here's a clipping from Australian Motor Sports magazine...



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Posted 2020-03-31 6:58 PM (#596310 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2020-03-31 7:00 PM (#596311 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2020-03-31 7:04 PM (#596312 - in reply to #81647)
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Lancer Mike
Posted 2020-03-31 8:51 PM (#596318 - in reply to #596235)
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soiouz - 2020-03-30 9:37 AM Wonderful selection of pictures from the Carnegie Museum of Art photo collection: https://cmoa.org/

Great images!  You don't usually see people of color in these images! 

 

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vedette
Posted 2020-04-01 5:31 PM (#596345 - in reply to #81647)
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vedette
Posted 2020-04-01 5:33 PM (#596346 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2020-04-01 5:34 PM (#596347 - in reply to #81647)
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56D500boy
Posted 2020-04-03 1:06 PM (#596400 - in reply to #596347)
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From Facebook:

(Note 2315 Danforth Ave. is probably Toronto. The property is all condos now:

https://condos.ca/toronto/canvas-condos-2301-danforth-ave-2315-danfo... )







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