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Sonoramic60 |
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Expert Posts: 1287 | Lads -- I'm almost positive the bottom pic was taken during the 1959 Pikes Peak Hill Climb close to an area called "The Devil's Playground." The race is next to the Indianapolis 500 as the United States' oldest motorsport event, its first running being in 1916. Since Pikes [note: no apostrophe] Peak is virtually in my backyard here in Colorado Springs, I have been up it a few times but it seems that every time I drive up, I get stuck behind some "flatland tourister" who's on his brakes ALL the time -- even going uphill! BTW, the road is paved all the way now, but because construction at the top has drastically reduced parking, you have to ride a shuttle bus during the tourist season. Joe Godec '57 Chrysler 300C, '60 Fury SonoRamic, '65 Fuelie Vette, '65 Sport Fury 426-S/4-speed | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9855 Location: Lower Mainland BC | Sonoramic60 - 2019-12-30 7:43 PM Lads -- I'm almost positive the bottom pic was taken during the 1959 Pikes Peak Hill Climb close to an area called "The Devil's Playground." This one (it's on pg. 308, this is now pg. 309): | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Yes, it's sealed all the way, and has a centreline and room enough on each side of the centreline for cars to pass. But not many fences at all... And, with some steep drops, a variety of bends, and all those cyclists (!!) pedalling furiously to reach the top, when you're going around a big left-hander and you look out through the windscreen across the dash and all you can see is blue skies and the tops of clouds, I decided it was daunting. Then I went to Mt Evans. About the same height, it was sealed a lot earlier (like 30-40 years earlier) and to a different standard, similar bends, same amount of fences (or less), that one had me thinking I should turn around and go back. Four times I let my desire to get to the top prevent me doing this. That one wasn't daunting, it was intimidating. But with both you've got to love that you can look down on the Rocky Mountains, and that you can see so far into the distance when there's a clear day. And you've got to envy those cyclists at the speeds they get up to on the way down! Edited by Ray Bell 2019-12-30 11:15 PM | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | I knew that you'd dig the photo, Joe | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | . (pp59.jpg) (1956-DeSoto-Adventurer-Pace-Car-.jpg) (ppds.jpg) (ppdge.jpg) (ppds.jpg) (ppds.jpg) (ppds.jpg) Attachments ---------------- pp59.jpg (191KB - 387 downloads) 1956-DeSoto-Adventurer-Pace-Car-.jpg (41KB - 386 downloads) ppds.jpg (48KB - 368 downloads) ppdge.jpg (42KB - 380 downloads) ppds.jpg (28KB - 390 downloads) ppds.jpg (124KB - 364 downloads) ppds.jpg (95KB - 353 downloads) | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | 0:20 https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=22&v=F47HPS4vxwY&feature... | ||
Sonoramic60 |
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Expert Posts: 1287 | Lads -- The pic with the puddle was taken at Glen Cove which is the staging area for the race which actually starts about a mile or so further up. Incidently, the video talks about Bobby Unser of Albuquerque whose dad, Louie, was named "King of the Hill" because of all the times he won. Bobby, of course, didn't do too badly himself but he and his brother Al are more noted for their USAC indy car work. BTW, the winning time last year was about eight minutes. As side note, my wife and I spent the 1970s in Albuquerque and she taught school there. Two of her pupils were Al Jr. and Bobby Jr. She says they were nice little boys but were rather difficult pupils as even in the first and second grades they really had no scholastic interests at all as all they wanted to do was to be race car drivers like their dads. And Perkins Motor Co. is still in business and one of the sponsors of the climb, although the company founder, Will Perkins, just passed away a few months ago. Even when he was in his later years he took an interest in FWL cars and the first time I took the Big-Tailed Beast in for a lube job, someone told him about it. He told the service manager not to let me leave until he came from home to see the car. He was a pretty cool guy when it came to those old MOPARs. Joe | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9855 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . One in colour: The 1957 Pikes Peak race featuring a 57 Plymouth in competition and a 56 Dodge (and others) as a spectator's car. "No Margin For Error" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=omCAkCV9GB8 | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Amazing the things you notice... This is a Simca Vedette, probably an early Brazilian production model, sitting on the front of the grid alongside Alex Ribiero's home-built VW-based special and another car. Driver of the Ribiero car is Nelson Piquet. (0120frblogdojovino.blogspotvedetteongrid.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 0120frblogdojovino.blogspotvedetteongrid.jpg (55KB - 393 downloads) | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Stockholm Sweden in 60´s (83606739_2835863189786000_9098413588330053632_n.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 83606739_2835863189786000_9098413588330053632_n.jpg (111KB - 364 downloads) | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1048 Location: PL / EU | . (55-56.JPG) (38.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 55-56.JPG (62KB - 359 downloads) 38.JPG (100KB - 390 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | I purchased these '56 Plym postcards from Jrdudeman here and thought I would share them with this thread in high resolution. I really like these pictures. Hard to get dead-on side shots like this with no background. (56Plym Belvedere Coupe Postcard.jpg) (56Plym Belvedere Sedan Postcard.jpg) (56Plym Suburban Postcard.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 56Plym Belvedere Coupe Postcard.jpg (128KB - 352 downloads) 56Plym Belvedere Sedan Postcard.jpg (139KB - 388 downloads) 56Plym Suburban Postcard.jpg (148KB - 383 downloads) | ||
soiouz |
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | A bunch of photos from Montreal and the province of Quebec, Canada: Edited by soiouz 2020-01-27 4:48 PM (25498442_10156070668969885_6577736607228704447_n.jpg) (25550276_10156070668949885_6334187193085130033_n.jpg) (26171675_1853757551581894_5622590965511643433_o.jpg) (32969667_2179260592114481_6469877875007815680_o.jpg) (47274496_123786361960703_4911811392404717568_o.jpg) (48917588_10155749568570825_7357886337963261952_n.jpg) (50274347_139379513734721_3702918282018291712_n.jpg) (50766574_141130730226266_1211258731128422400_o.jpg) (52293391_10216069108351768_7350485117174808576_o.jpg) (52415911_10216069108431770_7738454314795925504_o.jpg) (52536838_124793271913339_1511225504848412672_o.jpg) (52638745_124803155245684_5102046149758418944_n.jpg) (52788276_10216069108191764_1009286974911021056_o.jpg) (53097321_124803031912363_3620521052431450112_n.jpg) (53276112_150725885933417_317198083727294464_o.jpg) (54524553_155490458790293_3162302356104675328_o.jpg) (55529938_155268555479150_3371216110912274432_o.jpg) (59794933_165966574409348_3998400895132893184_o.jpg) (61290967_621201188402089_5420133704032845824_n.jpg) (61542197_170398450632827_1671260199660290048_o.jpg) (62239370_171515873854418_2060543949331759104_o.jpg) (75246751_10158341554890701_3960446114519318528_o.jpg) (81563608_781723612349845_3907282051551723520_n.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 25498442_10156070668969885_6577736607228704447_n.jpg (65KB - 392 downloads) 25550276_10156070668949885_6334187193085130033_n.jpg (49KB - 383 downloads) 26171675_1853757551581894_5622590965511643433_o.jpg (172KB - 355 downloads) 32969667_2179260592114481_6469877875007815680_o.jpg (102KB - 351 downloads) 47274496_123786361960703_4911811392404717568_o.jpg (62KB - 374 downloads) 48917588_10155749568570825_7357886337963261952_n.jpg (66KB - 358 downloads) 50274347_139379513734721_3702918282018291712_n.jpg (27KB - 344 downloads) 50766574_141130730226266_1211258731128422400_o.jpg (79KB - 367 downloads) 52293391_10216069108351768_7350485117174808576_o.jpg (80KB - 364 downloads) 52415911_10216069108431770_7738454314795925504_o.jpg (66KB - 375 downloads) 52536838_124793271913339_1511225504848412672_o.jpg (251KB - 358 downloads) 52638745_124803155245684_5102046149758418944_n.jpg (96KB - 366 downloads) 52788276_10216069108191764_1009286974911021056_o.jpg (63KB - 359 downloads) 53097321_124803031912363_3620521052431450112_n.jpg (111KB - 354 downloads) 53276112_150725885933417_317198083727294464_o.jpg (171KB - 368 downloads) 54524553_155490458790293_3162302356104675328_o.jpg (119KB - 365 downloads) 55529938_155268555479150_3371216110912274432_o.jpg (122KB - 365 downloads) 59794933_165966574409348_3998400895132893184_o.jpg (201KB - 337 downloads) 61290967_621201188402089_5420133704032845824_n.jpg (76KB - 362 downloads) 61542197_170398450632827_1671260199660290048_o.jpg (110KB - 339 downloads) 62239370_171515873854418_2060543949331759104_o.jpg (394KB - 368 downloads) 75246751_10158341554890701_3960446114519318528_o.jpg (113KB - 327 downloads) 81563608_781723612349845_3907282051551723520_n.jpg (70KB - 349 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 2308 Location: The Bat Cave, Fairborn, OH | Any more information on this dealer and his 3-wheel stunt with a 1957 Plymouth?
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soiouz |
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Un fortunately, no, but I wish I had more info! Translation of the markings on the car say: "With Plymouth, you are safe even on 3 wheels!" "No need for this wheel" The dealer was a Plymouth, Chrysler, Imperial dealership, in Trois-Rivieres, Quebec. | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13042 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | This was a MoPar stunt that they did for to show off the torsion bars. They had to adjust them accordingly or to mount one heavy duty torsion bar. Here is a Chrysler '60 were it's obvious what theyy did. (196f6b43054a2dab165209b7110fa313.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 196f6b43054a2dab165209b7110fa313.jpg (30KB - 329 downloads) | ||
Powerflite |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | That Plymouth looks like it needs help as it is stuck on the tracks with the bumper digging into the road. | ||
1960fury |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | There is a Video on YT where you can see them driving with 3 wheels. IIRC 60 Chryslers. | ||
56D500boy |
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9855 Location: Lower Mainland BC | 1960fury - 2020-02-04 12:24 PM There is a Video on YT where you can see them driving with 3 wheels. IIRC 60 Chryslers. This: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EaipkRqI-hA | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | ....with 2000 lbs of ballast in the trunk! | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Originally posted by wizard [This was a MoPar stunt that they did for to show off the torsion bars..... Actually, as it explains in the video, to show off the strength of unibody construction. Or to answer detractors to it. Torsion bars were then in their fourth year in the Forward Look cars, the unibody construction was all-new. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | I believe he was referring to the '57 Plymouth, not the '60 Chrysler. | ||
Ray Bell |
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | I think he was referring to the whole phase of publicity... However, it is a good point that the '57 was involved because it wasn't unibody. It does say in the video that the purpose was to prove the integrity of they unibody construction. | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | soiouz - 2020-01-27 4:43 PM A bunch of photos from Montreal and the province of Quebec, Canada: Wonderful photos! Note the 60 "Savoy" wagon with Belvedere/Fury moldings! Edited by 1960fury 2020-02-09 2:34 PM (61plra1.png) (61plra2.png) Attachments ---------------- 61plra1.png (182KB - 353 downloads) 61plra2.png (299KB - 322 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7205 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | At the Salton Sea, California (salton1.jpg) (salton2.jpg) Attachments ---------------- salton1.jpg (180KB - 335 downloads) salton2.jpg (156KB - 338 downloads) | ||
Windsor59 |
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | Sweden Dealer Saab-ANA in Town Kalmar, spring 1960 (FB_IMG_1581765051293.jpg) Attachments ---------------- FB_IMG_1581765051293.jpg (61KB - 344 downloads) | ||
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Board Moderator & Exner Expert 10K+ Posts: 13042 Location: Southern Sweden - Sturkö island | Thanks' Jocke - fantastic photo! We had a car down here that most probably was bought there. It was a '60 Seneca 4DS that was parked just after the free speed limit was cancelled. The owner told me that he travelled much back and forth to Stockholm on gravel roads and the car had a fair amount of rusted out body panels to prove it. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2596 Location: Upplands Väsby, Sweden | wizard - 2020-02-15 6:29 AM Thanks' Jocke - fantastic photo! We had a car down here that most probably was bought there. It was a '60 Seneca 4DS that was parked just after the free speed limit was cancelled. The owner told me that he travelled much back and forth to Stockholm on gravel roads and the car had a fair amount of rusted out body panels to prove it. fun that you like the photo. and nice story | ||
VTForwardLook |
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Member Posts: 10 | This is a picture of my Dad's 58 Fireflite circa 1962 in Worcester Ma. Always loved this picture... (Dads_1958_Fireflite_small.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Dads_1958_Fireflite_small.jpg (96KB - 334 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9604 Location: So. Cal | Nice car. What were the original colors on it? What is the black spot near the rear window - maybe the rear antennae? But I expected it to be further back. I notice one blackwall and one small whitewall after only 4 years. This was probably typical once large whitewalls went out of style. | ||
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Elite Veteran Posts: 1048 Location: PL / EU | . (129.JPG) (55a.JPG) (55b.JPG) Attachments ---------------- 129.JPG (73KB - 341 downloads) 55a.JPG (97KB - 332 downloads) 55b.JPG (86KB - 315 downloads) | ||
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Veteran Posts: 139 | On the 58 Fireflite tires above, remember tires only lasted 12-15,000 miles back then, so a 4 year old car was easily past it's original tire life. I remember my dad buying blackwalls because they cost a little less than whitewalls, too. | ||
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Location: Parts Unknown | Where I grew up, only the purist lovers of their old car kept them tired in wide whites. Most old cars fell into the hands of people who didn't care and did their car ownership on the cheap, resulting in ugly tires and cars slowly allowed to go to seed. But the owners who did keep their cars properly tired tended to take really good care of them, period .... driving around old time capsules that inspired minds like mine to a life of chasing rusty junk ! | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7205 Location: Victoria, BC, on Vancouver Island, Canada | Doctor DeSoto - 2020-03-07 5:29 PM Where I grew up, only the purist lovers of their old car kept them tired in wide whites. Most old cars fell into the hands of people who didn't care and did their car ownership on the cheap, resulting in ugly tires and cars slowly allowed to go to seed. But the owners who did keep their cars properly tired tended to take really good care of them, period .... driving around old time capsules that inspired minds like mine to a life of chasing rusty junk ! There was a period between 1962 or so, and the mid to late seventies when there were NO wide whitewalls being produced. I owned my 1960 Polara from 1974 through 1995. It had one inch bias ply whitewalls at the time I bought it, and a couple of more sets before I bought a set of bias ply Remington wide whites that came out in the late seventies I believe. Then when those wore out I bought another set of one inch bias ply whitewalls, because there was a detail shop in town that had a sidewall cutter, and for $5.00 per tire I had the whitewalls cut out to just over 2 inches. Those were still on the car when I sold it in 1995 but were getting pretty worn. The current owner of the car, my good friend Ron has a set of American Classics 2 1/4" whitewalls on it now. | ||
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Expert Posts: 1287 | Lads -- My '60 Fury came off the lot in May 1960 with the wide Goodrich (I think) whitewalls (approx. 3") but with that big engine coupled with 4.10 gears, they didn't last overly long. In 1962, the narrow whites came out and since I thought they looked cool, I replaced the factory skins with the new style. In 1964, the '65 Sport Fury I bought had the narrow whites, but I replaced them with a set of Goodyear Blue Streaks which had a medium blue band about a half-inch wide. The Sport Fury, in turn, was replaced by a '67 R/T which had Goodrich Redlines. If I remember, those Redlines came out as an option for the early Goats (perhaps even the '65 or even the '64) and were quite the thing at the time. Gold lines were an option on the '65 Corvette but they never really caught on. Joe Godec | ||
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Member Posts: 10 | It's not a great black and white photo, and that black spot is just a bad spot on the picture. I have a better one of him in the car, but I need to dig it out from the photo collections one of these days. I was recently talking to my mom and she said it was white with a (light?) green stripe and top. It was before I was born so I don't remember and my oldest sibling was only 6. | ||
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Below is the Fireflite pic with a bit of clarity added courtesy of 15 seconds with Irfanview. Also reduced in size so it doesn't make it hard to read the page. Additionally, there's a pic of a '56 Dodge in El Salvadore, taken in 1960. (0320frFL58fireflite.jpg) (0320frFL56dodge.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 0320frFL58fireflite.jpg (23KB - 309 downloads) 0320frFL56dodge.jpg (35KB - 313 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Photo taken in Montreal, Quebec, in 1960, with a 1958 Chrysler 300D convertible parked on the right! Attachments ---------------- 78F4DC03-ED5F-41CC-842F-631D21A85014.jpeg (114KB - 356 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3480 Location: Montreal, Canada | Wonderful selection of pictures from the Carnegie Museum of Art photo collection: https://cmoa.org/ (11697-840.jpg) (5116-840.jpg) (10902-840.jpg) (62630-840.jpg) (60257-840.jpg) (58193-840.jpg) (13969-840.jpg) (13980-840.jpg) (13978-840.jpg) (13976-840.jpg) (13975-840.jpg) (13974-840.jpg) (13972-840.jpg) (13971-840.jpg) (13970-840.jpg) (13968-840.jpg) (13967-840.jpg) (13966-840.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 11697-840.jpg (60KB - 315 downloads) 5116-840.jpg (52KB - 314 downloads) 10902-840.jpg (51KB - 300 downloads) 62630-840.jpg (124KB - 305 downloads) 60257-840.jpg (117KB - 314 downloads) 58193-840.jpg (138KB - 313 downloads) 13969-840.jpg (121KB - 304 downloads) 13980-840.jpg (112KB - 298 downloads) 13978-840.jpg (120KB - 316 downloads) 13976-840.jpg (122KB - 312 downloads) 13975-840.jpg (119KB - 309 downloads) 13974-840.jpg (126KB - 306 downloads) 13972-840.jpg (124KB - 312 downloads) 13971-840.jpg (144KB - 313 downloads) 13970-840.jpg (132KB - 310 downloads) 13968-840.jpg (115KB - 319 downloads) 13967-840.jpg (124KB - 319 downloads) 13966-840.jpg (123KB - 305 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 7385 Location: northern germany | soiouz - 2020-03-30 11:37 AM Wonderful selection of pictures from the Carnegie Museum of Art photo collection: https://cmoa.org/ Wow!!! Never saw those before! Thanks for sharing! | ||
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Expert Posts: 2473 Location: Dalveen, Queensland, Australia | Here's a clipping from Australian Motor Sports magazine... (0320frAMS0859chryslerrelease.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 0320frAMS0859chryslerrelease.jpg (355KB - 303 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Amsterdam (AmsterdamChrysler300.jpg) Attachments ---------------- AmsterdamChrysler300.jpg (293KB - 306 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Dutch Antilles (Curacao1960PolaraDutch.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Curacao1960PolaraDutch.jpg (137KB - 319 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Egypt (CairoEgyptIMPERIAL.jpg) Attachments ---------------- CairoEgyptIMPERIAL.jpg (256KB - 303 downloads) | ||
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Location: The Mile High City | soiouz - 2020-03-30 9:37 AM Wonderful selection of pictures from the Carnegie Museum of Art photo collection: https://cmoa.org/ Great images! You don't usually see people of color in these images!
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Imperial (Imp1961.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Imp1961.jpg (165KB - 310 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Lebanon (Beirut.jpg) Attachments ---------------- Beirut.jpg (433KB - 300 downloads) | ||
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Sudan (KhartoumSudan.jpg) Attachments ---------------- KhartoumSudan.jpg (312KB - 302 downloads) | ||
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Expert 5K+ Posts: 9855 Location: Lower Mainland BC | . From Facebook: (Note 2315 Danforth Ave. is probably Toronto. The property is all condos now: https://condos.ca/toronto/canvas-condos-2301-danforth-ave-2315-danfo... ) Edited by 56D500boy 2020-04-03 1:07 PM | ||
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Expert Posts: 3068 Location: Scotland | Jean-Pierre Laffont NYC Junkyard http://jplaffont.photoshelter.com/gallery/NYC-JUNKYARDS/G0000y_N0nh... | ||
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