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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-16 2:21 AM (#436336 - in reply to #81647)
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May 19, 1960 Times Square NYC

Note very early 1957 Plymouth taxi with wide slots in front pan



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DIF-RNT
Posted 2014-04-16 2:27 AM (#436338 - in reply to #81647)
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I see you figured out how to post pics....as I posted some info on your test thread
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-16 2:34 AM (#436339 - in reply to #81647)
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Ron, now I do it the same way using paint. Now it works.
Thank you very much for your help!
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DIF-RNT
Posted 2014-04-16 2:43 AM (#436342 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2014-04-16 5:48 AM (#436355 - in reply to #81647)
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D500Jim
Posted 2014-04-16 7:52 AM (#436361 - in reply to #436172)
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A bit of a misprint, not all colors are aligned, but still a nice picture, I think.
1958 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer on Pine Street in Rolla, Missouri
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1958 Dodge Custom Royal Lancer on Pine Street in Rolla, Missouri

1958 Dodge ForwardLook postcards

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D500Jim
Posted 2014-04-16 10:44 AM (#436375 - in reply to #436355)
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christine-lover - 2014-04-16 10:48 AM Chrysler

This postcard is on eBay, if you would want to but-it now (not mine!)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Chrysler-Cadillac-Chevrolet-more-BLYTHE-SPORTS-ARENA-Squaw-Valley-CA-/310931476685

 

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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-16 10:53 AM (#436376 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-16 10:58 AM (#436377 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-16 12:19 PM (#436391 - in reply to #436375)
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christine-lover - 2014-04-16 10:48 AM Chrysler

This postcard is on eBay, if you would want to but-it now (not mine!)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1958-Chrysler-Cadillac-Chevrolet-more-BLYTHE-SPORTS-ARENA-Squaw-Valley-CA-/310931476685

 



Thanks Jim, that's where I got that pic.
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DIF-RNT
Posted 2014-04-16 3:14 PM (#436408 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-16 7:43 PM (#436470 - in reply to #81647)
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-17 1:17 AM (#436506 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-17 5:48 AM (#436524 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-17 10:38 AM (#436552 - in reply to #81647)
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DIF-RNT
Posted 2014-04-17 11:32 AM (#436565 - in reply to #81647)
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Altered Wheel Base...gotta love it

Making of an altered "non FL": http://www.primerking.com/Primer_King's_'65_Dodge.htm

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Posted 2014-04-17 12:01 PM (#436571 - in reply to #81647)
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My "near vision" has a non street worthy Dodge Dart with rear tires that do not fit in the Spare Tire Space. But keeping with this thread I see fin's in the
parking area.



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DIF-RNT
Posted 2014-04-17 9:39 PM (#436644 - in reply to #81647)
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Steel Wildcat Strikers....... No idea where the pic was taken



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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-18 1:49 AM (#436660 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-18 9:21 AM (#436683 - in reply to #81647)
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christine-lover
Posted 2014-04-19 4:43 AM (#436808 - in reply to #81647)
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-19 5:38 AM (#436813 - in reply to #81647)
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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-19 6:52 AM (#436814 - in reply to #81647)
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D500Jim
Posted 2014-04-19 6:54 AM (#436815 - in reply to #436361)
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Two 1959 Plymouth Belvederes & two 1959 Plymouth Custom Suburbans at the Islander Motel and Restaurant in Stevensville, Maryland
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two 1959 Plymouth Belvederes & two 1959 Plymouth Custom Suburbans at the Islander Motel and Restaurant in Stevensville, Maryland

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Posted 2014-04-19 12:08 PM (#436839 - in reply to #81647)
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This photo reminds me of a need in our family for another car. My dad's empolyement sent us to another location and we the family was to follow as soon as "school got out".

My dad overly said to get a good Plymouth or Dodge Wagon --- my mom traded in The Ford for a '59 Kings Wood Wagon. When The Chevy went away in 1966 - it was replaced
by a 1966 Fury II Wagon ( and then a 1969 Dodge Wagon ).

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With so many 59's me thinks ---was this photo "seeded" by the local Plymouth Dealer.



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DIF-RNT
Posted 2014-04-19 6:55 PM (#436882 - in reply to #81647)
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You've probably seen this pic before but it's a favorite of mine......



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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-19 9:26 PM (#436904 - in reply to #436882)
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DIF-RNT - 2014-04-19 6:55 PM

You've probably seen this pic before but it's a favorite of mine......

That is a great pic....a flashy Dodge convertible, top down, 1950's at a drive- in restaurant!
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-20 3:01 AM (#436934 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-20 4:57 AM (#436937 - in reply to #436815)
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Here's a - what seems to be a tri-color - 1957 Dodge Coronet Lancer in the shade at the Glen Tahoe Motel in Stateline, California

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Happy Easter to you all!

1957 Dodge Coronet Lancer at the  Glen Tahoe Motel in Stateline, California

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Posted 2014-04-20 5:38 AM (#436939 - in reply to #436937)
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Posted 2014-04-20 6:49 AM (#436942 - in reply to #436937)
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D500Jim - 2014-04-20 4:57 AM

Here's a - what seems to be a tri-color - 1957 Dodge Coronet Lancer in the shade at the Glen Tahoe Motel in Stateline, California

http://dodge.forwardlook.eu/postcards/cards/CAStatelineGlenTahoeMot...

Happy Easter to you all!

1957 Dodge Coronet Lancer at the  Glen Tahoe Motel in Stateline, California

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Looks like a 58 coronet with a regular 58 two tone paint scheme.
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D500Jim
Posted 2014-04-20 7:59 AM (#436946 - in reply to #436942)
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soiouz - 2014-04-20 11:49 AM
D500Jim - 2014-04-20 4:57 AM

Looks like a 58 coronet with a regular 58 two tone paint scheme.

Yes, it is the shadow that is misleading. The color scheme and black paint insert in the hub cap indicates 1958

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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-20 8:59 AM (#436954 - in reply to #81647)
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-21 3:07 AM (#437077 - in reply to #81647)
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Sorry no FL car in this picture, but yesterday's gas price....

Picture taken on June 1, 1960 in Keene, New Hampshire




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Posted 2014-04-21 3:07 AM (#437078 - in reply to #436937)
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1957 Dodge Coronet Lancer on U.S. 62 East in Sharon, Pennsylvania
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hemidave
Posted 2014-04-21 6:51 AM (#437088 - in reply to #81647)
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-22 2:20 AM (#437225 - in reply to #81647)
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Old Orchard

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Posted 2014-04-22 2:48 AM (#437227 - in reply to #437225)
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That old $28.9/gallon price of Regular grade gas would correlate to about $3.00, today; not cheap, especially with the cars
getting something less than 12 MPG in around-town driving, every day....and requiring regular mechanical attention, and with a
'good' car surviving for 100,000 miles, maybe.

The 57 Custom Royal is VERY interesting, not only because it has the really-early fluted stainless steel eyebrow trim, but also because
it was built having the 1956 "Custom Royal" fender name plates on it.

Those '56 name plates are featured on early produced prototype cars, in advertisements, but, here's a car that was actually built with
them, on it.

I'd really like to know when this car was built...even if it was shipped off to a European car show (in France?).



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Posted 2014-04-22 6:08 AM (#437236 - in reply to #81647)
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Mayfair
Posted 2014-04-22 6:35 AM (#437242 - in reply to #437227)
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d500neil - 2014-04-22 2:48 AM

That old $28.9/gallon price of Regular grade gas would correlate to about $3.00, today; not cheap, especially with the cars
getting something less than 12 MPG in around-town driving, every day....and requiring regular mechanical attention, and with a
'good' car surviving for 100,000 miles, maybe.



You may be right with the price correlation about one-to-ten, as new-car prices took a similar development.

But why only 100.000 miles?
In a dry state without salt, a late-1950's car could last far longer, if well maintained IMO.
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Posted 2014-04-22 6:43 AM (#437244 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-22 9:17 AM (#437253 - in reply to #437242)
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Mayfair - 2014-04-22 5:35 AM

d500neil - 2014-04-22 2:48 AM

That old $28.9/gallon price of Regular grade gas would correlate to about $3.00, today; not cheap, especially with the cars
getting something less than 12 MPG in around-town driving, every day....and requiring regular mechanical attention, and with a
'good' car surviving for 100,000 miles, maybe.



You may be right with the price correlation about one-to-ten, as new-car prices took a similar development.

But why only 100.000 miles?
In a dry state without salt, a late-1950's car could last far longer, if well maintained IMO.


I saw lots of cars from that era exceed 100,000 miles, though anything over that amount was usually considered a bonus. You could reasonably expect to re-ring and grind valves at that mark.

It wasn't all the car design, but also external factors. Lubricants were not nearly as good as those of today, and roads were much worse. Very few roads were paved where I lived, so the cars were constantly exposed to rough dirt and gravel, and all the dust kicked up while driving. Filters plugged, seals leaked and grit wore out bearings and brakes. The same roads turned to mud bogs when it rained, exposing the entire undercarriage to four-wheeling conditions. Winter brought snow drifts to plough through and washboard ice in towns that shook bodies apart. We didn't have a garage for our cars, as they were reserved for farm equipment. When temps dipped below zero, you pumped the accelerator to pour raw gas into the engine so it would start, and often used ether in extreme cold. Imagine the cylinder wall lubrication issues that caused.

I will also take issue with 12 mpg average. Yes, on some cars that was normal, especially if you lived in cities, but all the 318 powered cars we had averaged about 18, and flathead sixes were in the 20 range. Manual overdrive bought you one or two more.

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Posted 2014-04-22 10:12 AM (#437257 - in reply to #81647)
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Posted 2014-04-22 11:02 AM (#437260 - in reply to #437227)
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The 57 Custom Royal is VERY interesting, not only because it has the really-early fluted stainless steel eyebrow trim


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I am studying that photo, and wondering what you mean be "fluted". Can you 'splain ?
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Posted 2014-04-22 1:36 PM (#437281 - in reply to #81647)
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Anyone else see anything odd about this photo?



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Posted 2014-04-22 2:37 PM (#437285 - in reply to #437281)
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The Chrysler Kid - 2014-04-22 10:36 AM

Anyone else see anything odd about this photo?


It's a Matador / Polara body with the Dart Grille, Dart emblem and Dodge script on the hood rather than DODGE block letters,
and has no model name on the front fender, but was likely ordered/sold as a Matador.
They were ordered this way to save money and weight. It also has 15" wheels, and look at the size of those tires - they
almost look like radials but this is definitely an 1960 photo!
So why did the CHP just not buy a Dart? I think they specified a 122" wheelbase - Darts were 118".


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Posted 2014-04-22 3:21 PM (#437292 - in reply to #437285)
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Thanks for the information! It is very interesting what they did! Are there any of these hybrids left?

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Posted 2014-04-22 3:26 PM (#437293 - in reply to #437253)
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Mayfair - 2014-04-22 5:35 AM

d500neil - 2014-04-22 2:48 AM

That old $28.9/gallon price of Regular grade gas would correlate to about $3.00, today; not cheap, especially with the cars
getting something less than 12 MPG in around-town driving, every day....and requiring regular mechanical attention, and with a
'good' car surviving for 100,000 miles, maybe.



You may be right with the price correlation about one-to-ten, as new-car prices took a similar development.

But why only 100.000 miles?
In a dry state without salt, a late-1950's car could last far longer, if well maintained IMO.


I saw lots of cars from that era exceed 100,000 miles, though anything over that amount was usually considered a bonus. You could reasonably expect to re-ring and grind valves at that mark.

It wasn't all the car design, but also external factors. Lubricants were not nearly as good as those of today, and roads were much worse. Very few roads were paved where I lived, so the cars were constantly exposed to rough dirt and gravel, and all the dust kicked up while driving. Filters plugged, seals leaked and grit wore out bearings and brakes. The same roads turned to mud bogs when it rained, exposing the entire undercarriage to four-wheeling conditions. Winter brought snow drifts to plough through and washboard ice in towns that shook bodies apart. We didn't have a garage for our cars, as they were reserved for farm equipment. When temps dipped below zero, you pumped the accelerator to pour raw gas into the engine so it would start, and often used ether in extreme cold. Imagine the cylinder wall lubrication issues that caused.

I will also take issue with 12 mpg average. Yes, on some cars that was normal, especially if you lived in cities, but all the 318 powered cars we had averaged about 18, and flathead sixes were in the 20 range. Manual overdrive bought you one or two more.



There were a couple things I believe were major factors in why people thought a vehicle was "high mileage" and worn out when it had more than 60K on the odometer and/or more then 4 years old. One was the use of oil bath air filters. They are terrible filters and let tons of dirt thru with consequent high engine wear. The second was the VERY common practice of dealers as well as individuals rolling back odometers. It would not be at all unusual for a car with 90K real miles to have been rolled back twice and be sitting on a lot showing 29K miles.
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The Chrysler Kid - 2014-04-22 12:21 PM

Thanks for the information! It is very interesting what they did! Are there any of these hybrids left?


How about a Dart with a Polara grille and hood? This was obviously put together from the result of a front end accident.



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